Nov 2008: Spain, France, Leeds or Brum, wherever we are we're still mums

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Hope this works! I'm a techno-idiot!!

And, I hope I'm not speaking out of turn coolkat, but you don't seem happy with your decision to drop the daytime feeds....so I'll just say that it isn't too late to reverse that decision if you've only dropped one feed.

I agree with Daisy coolkat, if you're not happy with your decision for yourself, not for anyone else, then you don't have to stick with it. Becca is your baby, not your mum's. Hope that doesn't sound rude.

Twinks/ coolkat I am sorry you are being pressured by your mums. I do not tell my mum where my children sleep. She is obsessed with wehter my niece sleeps in her own bed or not and quite frankly I don't think it's any of her business. Sorry of that sounds blunt, but really, it is our turn to be mums to babies now, not theirs.

Mimi has been in our room for as long as the other two, not in our bed as much as DD1, but then she almost never gets up in the night, and DD1 sleeps like a brick in her bed. DS who slept through at 12 weeks comes in a couple of times a week, but he just goes to sleep, unitl he turns 90degrees and kicks DH in the back, at which point he is picked up and plopped back in his own bed!

I get all sorts of comments from people- especially people who don't think DD1 should be carried in a sling (even though there are plenty of 2 year olds sleeping in buggies, and the old clasic that breastfeeding once the child is walking is weird

Coolkat, you know I kept meaning to give up daytime feeds with DD1, but I kept forgetting the bottle when I was out! lol. Please follow your own heart. I am just beginning to feel normal doing my own thing, rather than 'odd' or abnormal, and it's definitely the way to go.

Mimi joined the toddlers getting snacks at playgroup today. sO grown up!

Autumnlady, Cricri you both look very slim and glamorous and I am v. jealous of you both Though I do feel like I am starting to visibly lose weight - I'm not surre if it's weanign or Mimi becomming more of a weight to carry in the sling, but I feel a bit slimmer.

LOve to all.x

Just to clarify, I'm not bfeeding DD1 still- I mixed fed her from around 10 months and stopped at around 15 months, it was a sort of mutual decision. I wish I had kept up more feeds for longer though, as she never got on with formula.

oops I killed the thread!

Oh thanks everyone, for your words.
coolkat how sad that you will be giving up BF cos of pressure from your mum but I can totally understand, if you see her a lot and it just makes you uncomfortable to do it in her company. Though, of course their is always making excuses to leave or running and hiding in another room
I confide in my mum about pretty much everything, she really is my best friend and I see or speak to her most days. I am soooo rubbish at telling porkies and am so obvious if she asks and I am keeping something from her. So I am just going to try to aviod the conversation for a while then just go, oops, forgot to do what you told me to do and am, in fact, doing exactly what I want.
lacks I do have a side cot, or a doctored norma cot. It was actually your suggestion months ago and I finally got round to doing it a few weeks ago But to no avail.
He goes in for the first 3-4 hours of the night then yells for me at which point he is in with me for the night.
Partly cos I am too lazy to put him back and partly cos he only stirs to get back with me if I do manage it.
Though, if I am honest I don't even try to put him in it anymore.

God, I would LOVE it if Inverness got an Ikea! Nope, our closest it Edinburgh!! and DH is a typical man with very little liking for the place, so I can't convince him that a 6 hour trip down with an overnight stay is worth it
I could combine it with a visit to my bro and 8mo niece, but, still
ah well, I will keep trying hahaha

At the heart of me I love co sleeping and my cuddles. But I do have a niggling doubt (this is what my mother is pouncing on) that it would be better for J, that he would sleep better without me. That sleeping together is making his sleep worse; waking when I move, smelling the milk etc etc

I am so confused

Where is Hanaflower?

Thanks girls, I was going to continue but its like now I am trying to convince my self its the best thing to do. All I know is I wish she would sleep better!

Thanks to those who answered my style thread., I have found a solution!

IKWYM twinkling...bumble does his foirst few hours in the side cot, but I usually fall asleep when he is feeding and wake up with him wedged under my armpit!

And, from my own experience being separated from me didn't make bumble sleep any better. He has done three full nights sleep in total since he was born, once on his own and twice when in with me. And in a lot of ways co-sleeping makes sense with a BF baby if they are bad sleepers as you get more rest than if you were having to get up to go to them in another room/other side of your room!

I agree with Pinky about it being our turn to parent as well

Anyone else finding their BF baby is incredibly distracted and not wanting to feed in the day at the minute? bumble has been terrible this week and although he lets me know he wants a feed, as soon as my boob is out he turns away, and laughs if I try and latch him on. He has hardly had any daytime milk and is feeding for ages before bed and then is up a few times in the night again.

you didn't kill the thread after all pinky

Yep Daisy when I BF Becca this afternoon she was far to nosey as DH came home, and yest with her bottle in the morning when we were out!

yup, thats where J ends up too.
He is a wee terror for daytime feeds too.
DD thought it was hilarious when I shot milk across the couch, not so funny when it hit her but then she did had her nose pressed to Js head to see if it would happen again!
Making me chortle with the memory actually

Does anyone else have a LO who likes to wake up at 4 for a feed, 530 to stir then be up at 6 for a smile?
grr, go back to sleep DS!
This after his norm, 12, and 2am feeds. I am lucky if I get a solid 2hr stretch

Worse is that by 730ish he might just drop off for a wee, much needed by me, snooze but that is when DD gets up

It is making mummy very irritable. Poor DD got it in the neck on Monday and DS was not in the good books at all this morning.

so not just BF babies then?

I don't remember DS1 doing this and although DD did it, it was only a bit of distraction at each feed; she would still feed where bumble has been flat out refusing. He nuzzles in, then as soon as I lie him back he shakes his head and laughs!

Not bf daisy, but DS is so easily distracted now, it is a struggle to get milk into him during the day which inevitably means more night feeds here too

Coolkat glad you got something your happy with. I used to love clothes shopping but now find it a bit of a chore.

I have no useful advice on bf/co sleeping, except do what feels right for you.

Had a frightening episode this morning, gave DS some of my scrambled egg, he spat almost all of it out after it touching his tongue, but within minutes red blotches appeared on his face, mainly around his mouth and eyes! We are at centerparcs so I was frantically looking for the emergency number incase his lips/tongue/throat started to swell.
Won't be giving him eggs again and have a dr appointment on Monday anyway to discuss his eczema so will mention it then!

Twinkling, we are reguarly up at 5am, 6-6.30 is a good day! LOL!

DD was up at 930
This is a real shock to the system!
I used to say 9am was my limit, then 8 now I have to go to 6

But then I think, when it is only the one baby, you can convince them to go back to sleep again. If it weren't for DD waking up, I am sure I could get DS to sleep until my happy limit of 830-9, but hey, I ain't got one darling, I got 2 of the lovely 'orrible little devils angels!

choc, sounds scary with the egg, is he OK now? It's a common allergy trigger though isn't it? And also in LOTS of commercially prepared foods.

He's fine now daisy, yeh I knew eggs could be an allergy trigger and am annoyed at myself for trying him with them for the first time away from home.
Anyway he's fine thankfully and lesson learned!

Off out for a walk soon it's a good day here again.

Morning

Can barely open eye today, off to doc's, have to cover one eye to type so I can see!

Scary with egg Choc. X

ouch coolkat. I hope it settles down in time for the christening.

Am I the oinly one here NOT getting my DS (or indeed other DC) christened; I'm starting to feel like a right old heathen!

Morning everyone

Daisy DS1 has not been christened (and is unlikely to be now) and Sam won't be either. MIL is very disapproving (she is a regular churchgoer) but I think has accepted the decision now. Tbh, neither me or DH are particularly religious (we are not atheists - just nothing iyswim) and it seems too much hassle to arrange it without having a strong conviction to do it so I will join the heathen society

Coolkat ouch for your eye - I hope the docs can give you something to work quickly - otherwise hope it is a sunny day on Sunday so your sunglasses won't look out of place

Sam is still feeding ok - he will turn his head occasionally whilst I am giving him his bottle (particularly if DS1 is around and the telly is on) but I guess the advantage of a bottle is that you can follow his mouth with it but he is a little bit younger than most of the babies so I may still have it to come!

Twink lol at the shooting out of milk It is those memories that make all the hard work worthwhile isn't it? One of my fave memories was from Monday when Sam was on DS1's bed and DS1 was stroking his head and saying 'I love you SO much Sam' - it was lovely! Now if I can just get DS1 to stop torturing poking, prodding and pulling Sam, all will be well His fave trick at the moment is to 'assist' Sam in rolling onto his tummy which is guaranteed to have Sam crying in about 30 seconds as he HATES tummy time!!

Need to write the invites to DS1's birthday party - what a tedious job that is

Hi everyone, sorry I haven't posted in a long time. I've been lurking but there is no way I can respond to everything that I meant to

vbab Glad you had a lovely time at the concert.

Daisy We haven't had A christened and we aren't going to.

I hope Ruth is ok

We've had a funny few weeks here. A had been all over the place with feeding, naps and sleep. She went from 13lb 12oz to 13lb 10oz in a fortnight and dropped from 9th to 2nd percentile so I was feeling like the worst mummmy ever. Since then I've put her on a rough schedule of feeding every 4 hours with 3 solid meals inbetween and she's settled down a lot and now, two weeks later is 14lb 4oz (still on 2nd centile though). 4oz more and she'll have doubled her birth weight finally.

Tried to sort the problems with A's sleep using the most gentle version of CC we could. Biggest parenting regret so far (even topping not persevering with bf) It didn't work and her personality completely changed. We stopped and went back to being responsive to her every cry and I wore her in her baby carrier quite a bit and now she's much happier again. I've just accepted that she's not going to sleep yet and will do it when she's ready and I've felt much happier and more peaceful since

On a happier note ... A is crawling She had been trying for a while but mostly dragged herself on her tummy (we've got wooden floors) then on Sunday she just took off and she's not stopped since. She can pull herself up to standing on the furniture (and her cot, which reminds me I need to get DH to lower it later) so there are suddenly many more things to get into. I suppose it's no surprise she's not sleeping really lol

Hope everyone and their LO's are well

hey phee great to see you again and I'm VERY impressed with the crawling and pulling up! Sounds like you'll have an early walker there!!!

bumble went backwards for the first time yesterday and has shuffled a bit on his bum, but he hasn't put two and two together yet so has no idea it can get him where he wants to go.

Don't beat yourself up about trying CC with A; you tried something new and it didn't work. It's quite reassuring though for those of us with poor sleepers to know that doing CC isn't always the best thing! I was seriously thinking of trying it, but will plod on as we are for the minute. Mind you, he slept from 8 till 3.30 before waking up last night, which is a vast improvement....but then he fed for ages and woke again at 4.30 and 5.30 and then was up for the day at 6.30

oh, and meant to say that from what I've read on here it's quite common for them to drop a bit in weight around this age, especially if they really take off with solids and are filling up on less dense calories so not taking enough milk. Glad she has settled down a bit and is gaining again

Off to soft play this morning....if bumble wakes up and gets some clothes on that is!

WOW Phee|, a is crawling. And pulling herself up to standing ? Goodness me that is quick.
Coolkat, please think very carefully about the bf. Just make sure you are happy with the decision. As others have said, its not too late. And it is so important that YOU are happy with this, so as not to regret later or feel bitter.
I stopped bf just before we went on holiday. I am happy, but very sad. It all happened very quickly, very naturally. But I am a tiny bit disappointed with myself that I didn't make a special point of actaully sitting down and recognising that this was our 'last ever breastfeed' and making sure I really enjoyed it. Never mind. I am happy with my decision. And have the most BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL memories of bf'ing Max.
Hope you make the right decision at the right time, so that in years to come, you will be able to say the same thing. Love to you.

Re the BFing....for those still BFing, can I suggest getting some photos before giving up? I love the photos I have of me and DD and me and bumble....and wish I had taken some better ones with DS1, especially as I only did it for 5.5 weeks with him. Obs, I imagine it might have been difficult to know it was the last ever feed if it happeneed very slowly and naturally. Don't be sad about not recognising it; you did fantastically well to get this far given the problems that you had along the way and deserve a big pat on the back for that

This thread is hysterical....MN wit at it's finest

morning all

Wow phee - that's so cool with the crawling stuff J is very good now at sleeping on his tummy and he can move himself about in his cot nicely but sometimes wakes me up to flip him back over by pretending to be 'stuck' he has mummy on a very short piece of string methinks....

I have to take him to he dr's tomorrow as he has had a cough for a week and it's still not gone, and mum phoned me to say that she's given him some calpol as he feels very hot. He's still on the go and quite happy but I think that it's best to get him checked over. Am I being neurotic????

We have, no teeth, sitting up alone with a bit of support but loving his food! He is a realy pain with milk and always has been, he is ff and is a take it or leave it kind of baby, which is always a source of worry for me! The one thing he does like is his last bottle at 6pm ish which is made up of follow on milk and..... horlicks!!! He gulps down 7oz in one go which is totally unheard of for him!

Hope everyone else is good and thanks pinky for saying that cricri and I are glamorous and skinny. I can vouch that cricri is definitely slim and gorgeous whereas I have the satomach from hell

xx