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twelveyeargap · 15/05/2009 09:55

Morning ladies. Sorry I have been AWOL. You'd think with DH having been at home for a full month that I'd have had time for MN. Actually no, if any of you have ever had a DH at home for a full month you'd know exactly why I haven't had time. Get your mind out of the gutter Gin, it's not that.

Thought I'd start a new thread since MKG's lovely girl arrived such a long time ago!

April, am very sorry about your friend. How sad.

Have only had a skim through I'm afraid, but Scoot; you obviously have the patience of a saint dealing with all those tantrums, so I think you'd make a great driving instructor. Is it really what you want to do or are you trying to think of jobs to fit in with family life? Is it a reaction to the current job do you think?

Congratulations on the wedding plans SKY.

Belated birthday greetings to everyone I've missed and happy birthday in advance to all the rest. Seriously, if I go off to find the birthday thread it might be weeks before I get back!

LG&T, is there any way you can channel B's energy into activity? A gets quite naughty when she's bored or hasn't been "out". "Out" can just mean the garden and "out" means she doesn't sound so loud to me, thus killing two birds with one stone. I'm wondering if you being (understandably) afraid to leave the house with him is actually making things worse? Something like a trampoline in the garden could be great because all the bouncing up and down would use up tons of energy and wear him out, whilst also being "fun" for him and "quiet" for you.
Also, re B's nappy rash. Remember A had a hideous rash that needed anti-biotics etc? Well it went away and then was back a couple of weeks later. I thought it couldn't possibly be teeth again as she seems to have all her teeth. Took her off milk and hey presto, the rash was gone in 18 hours. Plus her soft, foul-smelling poos have turned into normal firm not-awful smelling poos. She's fine with butter or the occasional bit of cheese, but any more lactose sets her off. I wonder could B have a similar problem? A's excema also got worse on milk and is now clearing up. I think it's probably temporary, she had a similar problem last year, but for now she's on rice milk or the Lactofree products when I can get hold of them.

I was at the doctor on Weds to get my Mirena removed and replaced with a copper coil to see if my libido would come back. GP couldn't "find" the Mirena. I have to go for a scan to find it, then to a family planning clinic to have it removed if they do find it. She said it's probably just lost, rather than come out, but it's kind of put me off using coils altogether now.

DH still not redundant yet. It's been a month since he was put "at risk". He's seeing HR today and I suspect this will be the final meeting and they actually sack him. His manager admitted they were hiring new people for the desk, but not for "his role", which is just a load of crap. You can't make a position redundant on the basis you want to hire someone "more senior". That's just a staff upgrade. Hopefully they'll make a settlement offer today, otherwise he'll have to appeal and start sending solicitors letters. However, he's had loads of interviews, lots of callbacks and good feedback.

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SKYTVADDICT · 07/07/2009 13:32

Crossed posts PJ - nothing is ever simple is it? Its probably nothing but is something else to worry about x

JamInMyWellies · 07/07/2009 14:17

PJ can you go to your local EPU??

AM I draw the lina at the backstreet boys.

LG&T remember B is "spirited". Dont worry at the meet we can throw them all in a room and see who emerges triumphant.

Charley hurrah for no sickness.

SKY good luck!

Well DP surprised me by coming home last night with a beautiful diamond eternity ring for our non married anniversary and he has had our wedding rings made too. So I guess we best pick a date. Its lovely pic on FB does not do it justice.

Shmokka appears to have gone backwards with his sleeping he is now on 3 meals a day and woke 3 times last night . I cant leave him to cry as he wakes the evil one AKA Archie. Does anyone have a copy of the no cry sleep book that i can have a squizz at.
Just got back with Archie from the village nursery he has been for his induction. He was super happy there which am soo pleased about.

Pinkjenny · 07/07/2009 14:43

Jam - yes I can, but I'm not. I've been told me not to go unless it is bright red or accompanied by cramps or pain. [repeating myself emoticon]

Yes, pick a date immediately. You can hire Tilly as your wedding planner. I have the NCSS book if you want to FB me your address.

JamInMyWellies · 07/07/2009 14:50

Keep repeating PJ all will be ok. I will FB you now, ta.

charleymouse · 07/07/2009 16:53

Can't believe how far on you are April,

S&D deffo gone for good I am not allowing it back. [stern]

LG&T & Sky don't think will find out the colour, it shall remain yellow for the duration (unless it is waving an obvious willy around at scan on 17th)

PJ hope you are okay, it will pass, remember it happened with A and she is just perfect. PJ I am just hoping I can be as happy for them as they are for me if I find out they are having twins, I am bracing myself for the possibility as they had 2 put back in.

Jam obviously the wedding will be an excuse for a meet up won't it?

Waves madly at everyone, off to get DCs now DH has gone home early with swine man flu sniffles.

Tillyscoutsmum · 07/07/2009 17:02

Did someone mention weddings ??! My special alarm went off

CM - hurrah for your friends - so lovely and so glad S&D is gone

PJ - Did you bleed with A too ?

I'm deliberately ignoring the talk of special toddlers..... I have just ordered the How To Talk book in the vain hope that it might help (this is not a cue for any of you more experienced mum's to laugh heartily at my naivety - thank you )

My 20 week scan is on 30th July. I thought nausea had gone but have been feeling crappy the last week or so. Wicked headaches and just generally ... bleurgh. Can't moan too much - this one has been a breeze compared to my pregnancy with Til

JamInMyWellies · 07/07/2009 17:28

Charley if course their will be a meet up but you will all have to shlep to NY as thats where the deed will be done.

Am such as rubbish mum shmoka is currently shovelling toast down his neck and Archie is pouring (his favourite thing) water into his beans on taost and then eating the floating beans. While I am mumsnetting.

AprilMeadow · 07/07/2009 17:46

Terrible toddlers sound much better than awful, hideous pre-schoolers. Having serious issues with J at the moment, seems to be on a massive attention seeking mission at the moment. He is weeing on and in things at the moment, trashing the house and answering back, being rude etc etc. Am at breaking point and have called in the help of the HV's and also spoken at length to the girl at nursery who specialises in child behaviour issues.

Dont want to hear any 'its a phase' 'its what they do' etc etc responses from them as i am likely to flip my lid.

Have got a poorly E as well - temps of 38.8 since Sunday and whilst calpol and nurofen are helping keep it at bay she isnt eating and is restless and not her usual self.

Feel like i am on a count down to get everything running smoothly at the moment. 9wks and 6days to go until a) d-day and b) J starts school.

Am trying to stay calm as i dont really want baby to come too early but its not going too well as J is just stamping on my every nerve.

Charley cant wait to see your scan pics in a few weeks.

Will send an email round to everyone who is coming to the meet up with address details and the easiest way to get to us. Also re the food side of things etc etc

JamInMyWellies · 07/07/2009 18:12

AM re email my address has changed julie orr 75 @ googlemail . com

MmeJaffaB · 07/07/2009 18:37

Is it September yet? Can I come out?

elkiedee · 07/07/2009 19:59

Congratulations Jam re engagement. D likes to put his food into the water.

PJ, hope everything's okay with you

AM, eek at J's behaviour.

JamInMyWellies · 07/07/2009 20:16

thanks elki but we have been engaged since about 5 mins after we met this is the sparkler you are meant to get after you are married. But we dont do things in the normal order, who has children 10 months after meeting.

largeginandtonic · 07/07/2009 21:38

Who get's married 6 months after meeting AND to a crazy slightly round woman with 5 children. My dh that's who

Jam how fabulous! NY really? God i LOVE NY. Can we help plan it?

CM i am sooo pleased you sound better. Keep the surprise, it makes it all the more exciting.

AM my lovely you do sound fed up. I have a 'how to talk so your kids will listen' book i can send up? I can tell you with utter sureity that what J is going trough is normal. He is having his surge of testosterone that is is causing him to charge around like a loon, barge in to things, kick, punch and generally be VERY boyish. It does settle, honest. Hugs is doing it too. It is frustrating but at least you have an end in sight.

Occupy him every minute of the day, any task you can find. Make them up! We are fortunte in this house to never be short of tasks and activity.

Hope little E is ok soon. Are her glands up? Feed her smoothies and lollies poor girl.

Jam i am pretty sure B would be the last one standing

Pink my sweet are you feeling ok? You are being very brave with all this im very proud. It will all be ok and yes B has me stumped. It is the not sleeping thing i think. I can handle most things, even the screaming all round the supermarket, but when you have no let up and not a minute to yourself day and night i am floored.

DH is not happy either FFS this Navy life is SHIT.

Pinkjenny · 08/07/2009 09:15

Morning all

AM - I have no advice as I have no experience, but I am always here for you, you know that.

LG&T - My BF was remarking to me this morning that she couldn't believe how calm I am. She is very proud too. Of course, I feel I know my own body and if I was really concerned I would have trotted off to have it checked out. Seems to have stopped now anyhoo. L still doesn't sleep through . Baby boot camp will be commencing chez Taylor once the 20 week scan is done and dusted on 20th August [years away emoticon]. I mean business this time

Still pukey, but just had a big sausage butty. You must all promise not to judge me at the meet up, I am sure I will be mahoosive by then. Not baby, just flab.

Tils - I did bleed with L, bright red, all over my trousers. I was taken to hospital on holiday in ambulance, was very traumatic, but all turned out fine. Not this late though, but I believe it can happen at any time.

Jam - I am so excited! I loved my wedding, and I still swoon at my dress, and the wedding photo that adorns my desk. I just look so damn happy

elkiedee · 08/07/2009 10:31

LOL Jam, but I'm glad you're finally getting round to making wedding plans, it all sounds very exciting.

dp and I did talk after D was born about getting married but it won't be very easy to have a wedding with the people we would want to be there, particularly dp's mum who's 78 and in residential care in rural Norfolk and getting her there and home would be hard.

Themasterandmargaritas · 08/07/2009 11:37

Lovely sparkler you lucky lucky girl.

Pink you are so calm Probably you have heard this a million times before from every other person but my sister had the exact same happen at the same time in her pg and turned out it was a low lying placenta which moved up and she had no other probs after it moved. (will ignore the vvvvv high BP bit for now )

April, I can totally echo what LG&T says about 4 year old boys, B also went through a 'phase' like this, they need a lot of time outside in the park, if possible. You will find (hopefully) that once he goes to school he will be a lot better, partly because he will be so bloody knackered and partly because he will get a lot out of the mental stimulation. I hope Ella is a bit perkier today.

Gin, you also sound so very zen like. I am of your calmness and serenity in the face of diversity I keep repeating to myself, 'just stop shouting at them, then they might behave'. It doesn't work.

Day 3 of the school holidays. AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHH.

The Packing is underway. It's very exciting. We leave tomorrow night on the midnight flight . Jasper has now entered full toddler tantrum stage so 8hrs on the plane will be interesting and special. Perhaps even one to remember.

Tils, How to Talk is currently waiting for me at my ILs There is another one called Unconditional Parenting, that is also supposed to be great. I hope one of them works for me, I need to be a better parent to dd .

largeginandtonic · 08/07/2009 19:03

Hooray TMAM is on her way!!!!!!!!!

Pink i loved fried breakfasts with Beau, it was my fave thing. I must have eaten a ton! Then the KK's!! I will be hugging you not judging your size. I am ridiculously excited about meeting you.

B is nearly asleep, i have kept him awake all day. Tricky when i had to do the counselling then pick up from swimming run at 430. This will be the first evening i have had in about 2 weeks! I habve sent all the others to bed too [mean]

AprilMeadow · 09/07/2009 08:32

I seem to have a thing about bacon when pg - yum yum yum

LG&T hope the sleep went well with B and you managed to have a 'relaxing' evening of some sort.

Last few days have been pretty hard for me and i kind of went into melt down, but thanks to the wonderful MrsJB and Pink i have managed to get through it.

Emails have been sent to nursery listing some issues i have that i think are causing the behaviour shift in J. Nothing in the house has changed other than the sleep routine and that actually works in his favour so cant be that.

Have contacted the HV and i really had to bite my tongue when she said 'its just a phase'!!! So i explained that phases are short periods of time NOT 2.5years!! She actually told me that i should say to J if he wees on/in things again 'oh dear now that was silly, perhaps you would like to help Mummy clean that up' I mean FFS REALLY! Anywho, they have a new member of the team who specialises in child behaviour and she is going to give me a call.

On a happier note, DH and I have been together 10 years today! I cant work out who deserves the medal for putting up with the other

Have started putting things into my hospital bag as we are now in single figure weeks . My mothercare order came yesterday with a pack of vests and sleepsuits in upto 5lbs and upto 7.5lbs sizes. I have some newborn ones already that i think go to 9lbs, so i am prepared for whenever she decides to arrive now

Am starting to get rid of the furniture in the baby's room starting with one of the beds and the chest of drawers. They go this weekend, so it means i (dh) can build the changer dresser and start putting clothes away rather than them being shoved placed in the wardrobe. Curtains will be here at the end of July and then i can go into full on nursery mode. I cant believe that there are inly 2mths to go.

TMAM, I hope you have a safe flight tonight and cant wait to see you all in a few weeks.

JAM thanks for the reminder about your email address, have updated hotmail contacts and added you to my gmail/gtalk

Pinkjenny · 09/07/2009 09:14

AM - I am so glad you are feeling brighter and congratulations on your 10 year anniversary. Dh and I have been together for 7 in September.

LG&T - I can get L to bed at 7.30pm if I consciously keep her awake all day, which can be a struggle, but I do believe it's worth it. On the days when she goes to nursery, she still naps as part of her routine there, and really, she doesn't then go to bed for me until around 9.30pm, by which time I'm falling asleep too. She moves rooms in nursery in September, and I look forward to waving the nap goodbye permanently. Hope you had a pleasant evening, there was nowt on TV last night. My new guilty pleasure is Barefoot Contessa on the Food channel .

I have a midwife appt this afternoon, so will keep you posted, but the bleeding has stopped, so hopefully she'll find the heartbeat. Although they could NEVER find it with A.

A is gorgeous, but I swear to God the child never shuts up. Rabbit, rabbit, rabbit, just constant drivel. No idea where she gets that from at all.

TMAM - Hope your flight was smooth and you managed some sleep. Must be great to be on British soil for a while.

Jam - will send the NCSS book asap, I've bloody forgotten it today [brain like sieve emoticon].

JamInMyWellies · 09/07/2009 09:24

girls advice needed sleep gaaahhh

LG&T really hope you had a better night.

AM wow 10yrs congrats.

TMAM have a good flight.

AprilMeadow · 09/07/2009 09:25

J had to wave goodbye to his daytime nap before he turned 2 as he was/is such a pants sleeper. Didnt have any trouble getting him to bed just couldnt get him to sleep. Ella still has a 1.5hr nap in the day as she is the complete opposite to J although it does mean that she is AWAKE and full of beans at 5.30/6am.

Pink perhaps you can get nursery to start cutting the nap down. I lowered it by 10mins every week or so with J just so it wasnt a complete shock when it went completely.

Great news that the bleed has stopped and also that you are feeling a little more human. How exciting to have the 16wk check today, hope you get to hear the HB. This one decided to hide away during my 16wk appt and got the MW pretty worried and she wouldnt let me leave until she heard it.. she went on a trek around the dr's to find several different dopplers until she used one that found the hb. I thought it was quite funny as all the time she was out the office the baby was wriggling around letting me know all was ok

AprilMeadow · 09/07/2009 09:34

have posted for you JAM

Just eating a lovely bowl of porridge - yummmmmy

charleymouse · 09/07/2009 10:56

Aah ladies I have to go and hunt for bacon and sausages now. Tis all your fault. Maybe some mushrooms and beans would be nice also.

Tils Hope you're feeling better, are you enduring watching the Tour?

Jam NY fine by me

MJB are you going to webcam or will that be worse.

Elkie hope you are well

AM it is hard isn't it, DD is being difficult, I think she is a bit worried about school to be honest G is just so cute he gets his own way all the time and then when you tell him no he doesn't get it. He has just stareted sleeping through though hurrah. Congratulations on the 10 years. I won't tell you how long DH and I have been together it is longer than some of you are old.

LG&T hope things pick up soon, how was the wine? B is very special but they all are aren't they?

PJ I am also huge, did not do TPT as too horrific. Glad things are better good luck at MWs.

TMAM hope the travelling isn't too traumatic for you, see you soon.

Hello everyone else, SOH know you are about as have seen you, peekaboo. How are you MKG? Abby hols soon? Scoot I hoope you have a note from your mum. 12YG are you just driving about in your swanky new car?

AprilMeadow · 09/07/2009 19:51

OMG i'm going to stay with MrsJB in 2wks time on my own NO KIDS!!!!

SKYTVADDICT · 09/07/2009 20:01

AM - I thought we were coming to yours in two weeks time? I am going on holiday two weeks on Saturday anyway

C is a nightmare to get to bed if he has a sleep and it is really hard with the school run for him not to fall asleep in the pushchair. He has been asleep today so I am sure he will be up until 10 pm!

Glad teh bleeding has stopped PJ. Blardy midwife - the ones round here did try to find heartbeat at 16 weeks but explained it may not be possible.