Dec 08 mums - from rolling to sitting and everything inbetwean

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there i've done it - hope that is ok.

another link to n london meet up on thurs for those who want to join in. you don't have to be from north london to come. you don't even have to be from london (JJ and NJAN). link

WG thanks for the info. Hope you're feeling a bit cheerier, you're a fantastic mum and Tuppence is a very lucky little girl. Out with your copy of WMD

sybil boo to the pox! Good on dd1, I can thoroughly recommend Shaun the Sheep for entertaining when you're stuck on the sofa.

indith lovely, no need to keep up, just pop by now and then and let us know you're still there! Sending you lots of good sleep vibes.

daisy excellent choice of subject I had a brilliant history teacher called Julian Whybra (!) who inspired me at the age of about 11, and to whom I guess I owe my phd if we really want to find where it started.

veggie I think I've seen Nuk dummies in boots? they certainly have the bottles.

I wonder when DH is going to get home... Monday he's on late opening, 6.30 til 8.30, but because one of the docs was off sick lots of that person's patients couldn't be fitted into normal hours so they got added onto DH's evening slots - since they started the extended hours last autumn the most he's ever had before has been 3 people. Am impatient to get tea started but don't know when he'll be in - lots of toast and marmite meanwhile...

oh and meant to say - daisy wow, what a fabby night! Bring it on babyDaisy!

sybil - sorry about the pox. Hope you get a little freedom soon.

Yes P passed her newborn hearing test and she does startle, so I'm sure everything's fine really. People's comments can really make you wobble though can't they?

I have got a very sore boob Hope it's not mastitis again. Am seeing the GP tomorrow for my rear end examination (joy!) so I guess I could ask her about it then - then she'll have actually seen every private part of my body .

Hope the dietician goes well tomorrow Spot

I'm think I'm having a bad evening - I prepared the highly challenging 'pizza from the freezer' for tea for dh and I, then managed to drop both plates so plate and pizza went all over the floor. doh. Am very tired. That's my excuse

Dh has just put channel S4C on the TV - it's welsh and I'm finding it very amusing to listen too! We can't understand a word of it but it's quite compelling!!

Hello all,

I'm impressed my those with very mobile babies. No rolling here either! DD is happy to gurgle, giggle and kick but shows no interest in turning over.

ladyT Hope the period has settled down a bit now, it sounded grim. My top period pain tip, apart from - plenty of painkillers, is to avoid cold drinks. It sounds daft but cold drinks really make it worse, honest.

How awful that you might have to pull out of the house purchase. Hope things get sorted with your late DH's estate soon. It must be hard still having it up in the air.

pingu LOL at the cot sheet instructions. My grandma and grandad had a mangle in their back yard!

trace Poor P, glad she's feeling better now. Great idea about the chocolate delivery service .

sybil Hope the pox isn't too awful. Do they still recommend camomile lotion? My mum covered me in the stuff, but I still remember being really itchy.

Hello verso, hope you do decide to come back.

daisy What a great idea. Good luck with the PGCE applications.

We took DD swimming for the first time on Friday. We went to the Aquatics Centre where they held the swimming events for the commonwealth games in Manchester. We thought it might inspire her to go onto swimming greatness, however she seemed unmoved by the whole experience!

Also the sleeping through has ended after 10 days, boo. She has woken for the past 3 nights, so it must just have been a joyous interlude - a taster for the (hopefully!) bit too distant future!

I love love luuurrve Shaun the sheep, so funny. The episode where the farmer gets a new CD player and the sheep get a hold of his old turn table and have a disco is hilarious.

Unfortunately no, JJ you can get the NUK latex ones at greenbaby but he came out in a rash when he used that one possibly a little allergy to latex so I found the silicone ones when we were in Munich but should have bought more. Why do some countries sell things and others don't.

Thinking of going to Sardinia to get ourselves some sun at the end of the month.

Oops crossposted there!

In for a penny in for a pound I suppose trace! Hope the appointment goes OK, you'll be fine.

Boo the tea on the floor. Very disappointing. DH went to uni in Cardiff and we used to watch S4C a lot! I like the english words that pop up because there mustn't be a welsh equivalent.

JJ Hope your DH gets back soon.

veggie We're off to Berlin in a few weeks so could pick you some up if you like.

veggie - Pretty sure we have silicone NUK in our chemist here. Happy to pop some in the post for you if so. Though cold turkey on the dummy would be great if he can manage it.

We tried dummy cold turkey for a few days and then rapidly retracted that idea after a lot of shouting and some tears. I have now bought this comedy product so he goes to bed with a dummy attached to each paw! Sleepy Tot Though I still pull the dummy out before he is properly asleep in the evening (don't bother for naps) and he doesn't seem to need it again until 5 or 6 am when I jam it back in to get some more sleep. If he starts waking me in the night for the dummy, I might have to reconsider the cold turkey!

I'm definitely in for the South London meet up if I'm here. We get back from hols on 29th May.

New season of Californication has started. Just what I need, another TV addiction!

Hi everyone, a quieter than normal weekend on the thread (but I?m grateful for it, as I?d never have caught up otherwise). Well, DD rolled over (and back again) last week (I think the earlier rolls were just ?falling? from her side) and spent a couple of days rolling and rolling, but has stopped now. I think she?s ticked that box so doesn?t feel the need to roll anymore. She?s nowhere close to sitting yet though, even in the bumbo she?s very wobbly

Welcome back to pingu and verso

Sorry to hear about all the poorly babies and older siblings too, its so nasty when they?re not well. And for some reason I always think it is so unfair at this time of year, when the weather is nice and everyone wants to be outside. Trace a bit late now, but you mentioned trying not to cuddle P too tight when she was hot ? my HV told me that when babies are either too hot or too cold, skin to skin is perfect as we then regulate their body temperature for them

LadyT Badminton sounds fab, my sis is mad keen on horses so sat down with DD to watch it ? DD loved it, but was very unimpressed when we took her to see some real horses down the road (probably a good thing, don?t think we can afford for her to be a horsey girl)

Daisy good on you for going into teaching. As I know I couldn?t do it myself, I am full of admiration for anyone who can do it, especially at secondary level. My sis is a Geography teacher and so by default can also teach other humanities subjects (history and RE in her school), despite not having studied either since she was about 13 ? not sure how that works, but you might not need to do the additional study first

Indith you poor thing, I hope you get some sleep soon, you sound like you have it up to here

I?ve had a proper snotty nose, sore throat, bunged up ears etc for the last 2 days. Last night DH ordered me to bed early and said that he?d be finishing one job at lunchtime today and could postpone his journey down to Suffolk til later in the day, so I could have a couple of hours kip after lunch. So he came in, ate his lunch and had a cuppa and I handed DD over and he said ?I?ll get you up in an hour for her feed?. I checked my watch and he?d shaved off nearly half an hour, so I tutted at him and he looked suitably sheepish. I went upstairs and tucked myself up in bed, and heard the door go as he went next door to his parents (looking for a babysitter, but they weren?t in - ha), not long after that he came to see if I was awake (I pretended not to be), and came back 5 minutes later and shook me to wake me up for DD?s feed (which she wasn?t due for another hour and wasn?t hungry for) ? so he managed a grand total of 35 minutes in charge of DD , I can?t wait til he has her for a whole day [evil grin], and I was planning on getting him to do a load of washing and prepare tea too, as I do ... On that note I will go to bed and have evil dreams of making DH see what it?s really like, good night everyone (especially to Indith)

Oops not sure what happened then anyway I'm going to cut back on daytime use and let him use at night until he's a little bigger, once he's asleep he doesn't seem to need it at all as he never wakes for it. Maybe aim for bedtime and naps.

I had something to say to you JJ but can't remember what????

Aahhh lost the first half of that post I thought I had posted it accidentally, what's going on!!!

Basically have bought the bear thing, thanks for the link JB and any NUK silicone dummies the 6month + ones would be great. Will cover all costs of course. I found an old lickle teeny tiny one for 0-3 months that is tiding him over for now. He is fine with any sort of dummy shape but I have found he doesn't feed as well when he is using the rounded ends but feeds normally when he uses the nuk ones.

ZJ I don't know why he even bothered, how mean giving a taste of some sleep then taking it away. Hope you feel better soon.

Syb calomine lotion can make the itches even worse as it drys the skin around the scabs, there is a moose out now called Poxclin that kind of cools their skin. DS2 had really a really head when he had them so put it through his hair and it helps loads. Ds1 didn't seem to be very itchy.

well i thought my tether was longish but it seems i've reached the end if it. p has woken 4 times so far - i've fed her back to sleep but she clearly wasn't hungry. she just won't settle. she's still husky and so i think it might just be her cold that's stopping her sleep. she will only sleep on me with me sitting up so i guess another night of no sleep for me. i've been trying to keep her quiet so as not to disturb dh but dd1 has just woken up crying because her ankle hurts and she can hear p crying. all i wanted to do was give her a cuddle but i couldn't because putting p down makes her scream. had to wake dh to deal with dd1 so i feel shocking that i couldn't comfort her myself. plus i think i definitely have mastitis. it's so painful i can't put my arm down properly or sleep on that side, and i have headache and back ache. am so tearful - i really could do with some sleep but it seems like a far off dream. sorry to be such a misery guts. i'm sure i'll perk up in the morning.

Trace So sorry for your night. I hope it improved after you posted. When things like that happen here, I remind myself that in even just a few weeks time it will be a distant memory, and I will never have two small children again (maybe ) and this is the worst bit and I'm doing the best I can.

trace I really hope you managed some sleep [hugs]

daisy great idea re the teaching. I was due to start my PGCE then fell pg with ds1 so that plan has been shelved for a while. If you go to the teacher training website they've got lots of advice about what you can do/how to apply etc.

veggie Sardinia sounds nice .

zj huge sympathies with the dh situation! Though dh had to have both boys yesterday as I was on my course, I think he understands a bit more why I'm not always Miss Perky when he gets home from work

jump what time did dh get home in the end?

Ds2's sleep has been getting a little better each week, am seeing a light at the end of the tunnel! Plus he's loving the weaning, he's polished off a bowl of porridge this morning!

Anyway, must get ds1 ready for nursery, back later.

Gosh, a new thread! Have just about caught up on this one and battery about to go on laptop, so a quicj post from me.

Trace: sorry P is ill and unsleeping, you have had an unsettled time of it . Re cosleeping, DS2 starts off the night in his crib then I stop fighting with him in the early hours and bring him into bed. He was sleeping between me and DH but DH has put his back out so I have resurrected the bed guard (a soft toddler one) and put it on the side so I can put DS2 next to me. Seems to work OK. We need to get a cot sorted as DS2 no longer happy in the crib as it's getting a bit small.

Spot: how did the appt with the dietician go? The new formula sounds a bit odd - is it another dairy free one?

Arti: how is DD1? It is worrying when they are no themselves. Is she perking up at all?

Sybs: did you get out in the end? Take a good loud bell to ring

Lal: did you have your appt yesterday? Or is it today?

lovely to see you again

Not uch news here, DS2's sleep still a bit pants but I'm not sure I have the energy to do anything drastic about it at the moment! He's still waking 45 mins after going to sleep most nights then it's increasingly hard to get him back to sleep in his own bed. He's chatting away now and chewing his blanket. Oh, and I had to get more clothes as he's grown out of most of his 3-6 month stuff. Once I work out how to see the HV (no baby clinic at the surgery) I'll get him weighed!

Oops - neglectful MN parenting alert - DS1 is ensconced in the kitchen eating muesli out of the box. Odd child. Better go!

Morning All

Trace - I really hope things improved last night and the mastitis is not worse. If you are feeling fluey with the pain make sure you get ABs straight away as I found it takes hold very quickly. Also ask for an antiinflammatory like diclofenic as it helps reduce the swelling in the milk duct and also kills pain.

Lal - I have been thinking of you lots for a the past 24 hours. I hope your appointment brought you peace of mind. Do let us know when you have a minute.

Zoe - I would have killed my DH if he had been so half-hearted in his atempts to give me a break. I did not realize you live next door to your inlaws. What's that like?

Veggie - several of our local chemists have silicon nuk products sort me know if you need some sent. I think you can get them on eBay too.

Lady - I would love to meet up next time you have a free moment in west London. I am sorry about the further complications with your late DH's estate. How horrible for you both emotionally and financially. When will you know?
Indith - hello! Sorry to hear you are sooo exhausted. Please stay!

Last night was better with DD1 who slept through but then got up at 6am. She seems very cheerful so far but then she always us in the morning as he gets one on one attention while DH is still home. I started a thread in child health about how to work out if she us really ill or attention seeking and I got some great advice. DD2 woke twice but at least I always know how to comfort and resettle her. We have our baby swimming class today which I always love and this afternoon I have my first perfonal training session at the gym .

Morning!!

I made DS2's christening cake yesterday!! I'm hoping it will taste nice!

I also lost my wedding ring but luckily found it again. I was in floods of tears and thought it had gone forever.

Indith I hope things get easier soon.

Veggie I am very jealous of Sardinia

Zoe I also would have killed my DH. I also think you either have the patience of a saint of lovely in-laws.

Trace I hope your appointment goes well. I also hope it isn't mastitis.

Hope everyone is ok.

Thanks so so much for all your kind thoughts yesterday - really cheered me up whilst I was waiting for appointment. Sorry I couldn't get on last night to tell you how it went. Our internet connection is playing up so am typing as fast as I can before it drops out again.

Consultant was lovely - and has referred me for genetic counseling at Guy's. Lump isn't anything sinister but rather normal breast tissue that has knotted together after breast feeding. So have to keep a bit of an eye on it but all ok really. Am so relieved. Was trying to be sensible about it as I knew that was highly likely would be ok but still. I didn't realise until how wound up I had been until afterwards.

Thanks again. Really. Was nice to know you were thinking of me as I hadn't told anyone in RL as didn't want them to worry. Will try and catch up more later (seems to be my pathetic sign-off at the moment) but want to post this while I can

Lal, that is fabulous news!!!! Very very happy for you!!!!

Hiya,

haven't been in here since DD was born

Is anyone else weaning?

Only I really have mumsnet on this subject.

DD is 20 weeks, my others were eating by now. But ive only given her bits because of this place.

Every one in REAL life knows she had carrot and no one has said anything apart from 'glad you havent left her till 26 weeks' because they can SEE she is a big girl, that she enjoys it, that she is READY.

Shes fine, she likes her food. Her brothers are fine from being fed earlier.

Grrrrr.

lal that's great news

kayz how's the bike?!

ladyt I missed your post earlier. I'm glad to hear you're having a week off, sounds like you need to rest & recover after all your dashing around, not to mention the worry over your late dh's estate. Take care [hugs]

Have to take ds1 to the drs, he's got some gunk coming out of his eye. Anyone know if its likely to be conjunctivitis?

disenchanted nice to see you! I think a few of us are weaning, I've just started ds2 but he is 6mo now.

Tbh, if she's happy & enjoying it then I'd carry on & not worry about what the MN Jury think

Hello girls

Well, I had a nice surprise this morning - DP had fed and changed DD before work (he does do this morning one occasionally but never usually when he has to go to work). Mind you, he woke me up in the middle of the night shouting in my face so perhaps he was making up for that. He has night hallucinations when he is stressed and it's horrible.

And DD was a little wotsit yesterday! She was awake from 7.30am-7.30pm and kept on screaming and crying unless I held her (which understandably wasn't practical for 12 hours). Maybe it's teeth. I went through everything else several times. So I managed to write precisely one small page all day. Ah well! I don't want to moan too much because it's so incredibly worse when they do that in the night, so I count myself very lucky.

Kayz - a bike, how exciting! I'd love one but I am scared of the roads.

Trace - Hope you are feeling a little better and good luck today...I can dimly remember having a terrible fear of smear tests (long gone) which was so acute, I was actually hoping to get knocked over by a car before I got to the doctor's...so I know how you feel. Hope you can grit your teeth and get through it.

Spot - ooh, and hope you get some joy with the dietician.

Jolly - I didn't know that about cold drinks! Wow! Hot water bottle and something codeine based have been my stalwarts in the past. It seems to have settled down now but was yucky at the time. I have just bought a Persona type machine (the Clear Blue one, they had run out of Persona) so we shall see how that pans out...It does tell you not to use it as contraception...Your swimming sounds lovely. I haven't taken DD yet, must get round to it.

ZJ - hope you are feeling a little less stuffed up this morning. Yes, your DH is going to have quite a shock when he has your DD for a full day...maybe it's a case of confidence as much as anything. I have to admit I was far less confident with DD in the very early days and it was so much easier to let DP get on with it as he was living with his sister for the first year of his nephew's life so was good with babes. I was going to ask if you saw us on the Badminton coverage and then remembered that you don't know what I look like! I had my fine leather country hat on and was preening myself a bit, thinking I really looked the part with my waterproof and wellies, but I may as well have had a sign above my head saying 'Townie' as I realise that I was wearing the hat the wrong way round and the bow should be at the back. Doh. I don't really think we can afford for DD to want to keep horses either (the hard work involved puts me off even more, much as I love 'em) but DP heard from another barrister that it's a good thing to get girls into as 'it keeps them younger longer' and 'delays them messing around with boys'. Honestly, the guff these people come out with. DP has taken it all as gospel, of course.

Veggie - ooh, tell me more about Sardinia! When? I've never been but it sounds lovely.

Arti - I am glad DD1 is improving. Good luck with the trainer! Wow! I did go on the rowing machine yesterday (amid DD's screams). Yes, the whole Estate thing is quite draining. It's eating away at me a bit, and is all quite fraught and complex. I have no faith in the solicitor but can't get rid of him at this stage, and just have to hope that the Inland Revenue can sort it out a) quickly and b) hopefully in my favour. They sent a letter last week saying they were dealing with it, so perhaps I will know in about a week's time? Meantime, the vendor isn't getting proper quotes done on the house for the work that needs to be done, and I am fretting about it not having a garden even though the location is perfect. We saw another house last night (didn't go in, just drove there to peer at it) - which was a much bigger property and with a reasonable sized back garden - BUT in a village again, 3 miles from the little town where the station is for London (where the first house is, and where I was keen to live). Both houses need a lot of work. And now I am in a quandrary! But it could all be academic and I may not be able to buy either of them!

Well, the exile isn't going well. We have been invited out for dinner tonight in Oxford. I am still feeling antisocial and don't really want to go but it would be churlish to refuse...

Right, time for breakfast, I'm ravenous. Have good days, all!