December 2008 Coven - white light and basket cases

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Seeing as LadyT broke the thread...

Thanks LadyT and well done Kayz.
Well, I have decided to stay at home tonight after all, was looking forward to going to a friend;s b'day drinks in Soho (I never go out!) but am just too tired. Have come to the conclusion that some people just manage better on very little sleep than others, and I need to stop being so of those who can do more. I hav always been pretty manic so maybe this is the universe's way to get me to slow down!
Indith, you poor, poor thing, I feel quite for complaining about my minor woes, looking forward to hearing your theories, I love hearing stuff like that, more grist to the mill, etc, etc.
PMK, surely dunny ditching is unwise at this tender age .

Oh, and LadyT, I hope you don't mind my asking but as a fellow FF, what times does O have her bottles - and how much does she have each time? Am totally convinced that sleep and food are related and sure that the fact T won't touch more than 40ml when he wakes up is connected to his fitful napping.
I always thought baked potatoes were healthy!
Oh, and Bisou don't know if you're lurking but have ordered a Pikkolo as back now totally done in by Bjorn. How are you getting on with yours?

Veg T has long body and tiny legs too (sadly like his mother). Hope your and DS2's colds clear up soon. Nice work on the rack . Sorry, that came across as a bit lecherous.

Oh no Spot I want to hear all the cheeky boob words. I love having a nice rack! DH often says it when I've got my nursing bra unclip on both sides when DS2 is having one of his 'can I try them both on to see which I prefer for this feed' episodes.

LadyT, I am a lover of potatoes. I can't get enough of them, baked are a fav, though I do love them mashed, in a tortilla, hot chips, au gratin, hash browns (preferrably home made), in a curry, plain boiled and especially with butter!!! Anyway a potato can be fashioned I love it. I am quite pleased that DS1 has started eating potato lately. DH is a little intolerant of them so he can't eat many, so I tend to have them when he is working away. I love mushrooms too, in Munich I had this lovely local dish that was a mushroom stroganoff thing (loads of mushrooms and cream) that had a dirty great dumpling in the middle of it, lovely. Each week half our ocado vegetable delivery is mushrooms of differing varieties. Oh dear I've gone off on one abour food now im so hungry have just asked DH to add some more mushrooms to dinner, but really I am dreaming of mushrooms with baked jacket potato. Might take the boys to Home farm tomorrow for lunch as the cafe there does a lovely jacket with mushies. Mmmmmmmmm

evening!

Nice to see you back LadyT - you exhaust me with your busy days... hope the MIL stay goes as well as it can

Spot - sorry for your sleeping baby troubles. P sometimes falls asleep in her pushchair or car seat but wakes up the moment we stop too. You know I was thinking back to dd1 to see if i could offer you any reassurance, and I actually couldn't even remember where and when and how she napped, which actually made me think how fleeting these issues are and how they will soon be distant memories - not that they feel small at the moment. Hope you feel refreshed by your night in and can get out to see your friend soon.

Kayz well done you on the weight loss.

P is seeming pretty frustrated at the moment because she wants to sit up and keeps doing little mini sit-ups and leg lifts! I bought her a little inflatable half ring thing with a tray with toys on it (pic on my profile) and she loves it - being kind of upright and independent!

kayz well done, that's fab! As my WW leader is fond of telling us, 10lb is a dress size apparently!

Another baked potato fan here, think that's my favourite way of potato, that & my roasted chips!

spot I know you asked LadyT but ds2 is also ff & wondered if it would help, ignore if not! If so, he has 4 7oz bottles during the day (7am, 11am, 3pm & 7pm) then a 5/6oz one during the night (doesn't always finish it). Having said that, he just polished off an 8oz bottle at 7pm tonight as I realised he was getting hungrier earlier & draining the bottles. And now I'm wondering if I've been starving the poor chap, hence his waking up earlier & more often . We will see tonight!

lol @ dunny ditching, that one did pass me by earlier!

We tried no dummy tonight & lasted about 20mins before he started crying. Poor thing was tired but just couldn't drop off. Will keep trying, plus we've put up a musical light thing so hope that once he's used to that then he might forget about the dummy... All these ifs & buts!

Enough waffling from me, I need to go & prepare a presentation!

kayz well done. I too have just returned from WW, only lost 0.5lb though. Note to self, stop the cheerfulness & get some exercising done!!!!

LadyT I am exhausted at both reading your epic post and how busy you are! You are an inspiration

Well DS has abandoned his bottle taking tonight, although he was completely exhausted after having only 2 30 mins naps today. I suspect had he been more settled then he would have had it

Mmmm jacket potatoes are fab. I also lurrrvvee mushrooms, and mushroom stroganoff is yum veggie! Right off to get some supper I'm starved.

trace ds2 has one of those rings as well, he loves it. I think he just likes being upright & seeing what's going on!

MMMmmmmm potatoes love them am sadly having salad for my tea tonight if DP ever gets back from walking the dog.

Indith and Spot I really hope the pair of you get some decent sleep tonight we too are still allover the place right now thank god for touche eclat.

Snort at the norks of steel I like to say mine are gold top.

Oh DP back time for tea also NJAN my sister gets her results tom fingers crossed.

I have to say my favourite spud is a roasted one - crispy (but not hard) on the outside and fluffy and soft in the middle. mmmmm
As for fillings for a jacket potato...I'm a bit of a cheese girl really - never had mushrooms with one veggie!

Does anyone know much of Stratford? We're talking about holidays which is causing the usual stresses because dh would like to camp somewhere, do lots of hill walking and ideally be near the coast - he loves Devon and Dartmoor. I would ideally never go on holiday because I always want to come home as soon as I'm there and count down the days till we can leave. I know I'm odd - just always been a home girl. Given that we will go away (I'm not so mean as to stop the whole family going away!) we will probably stay in a cottage somewhere hopefully pretty and a bit of countryside walking around, but with plenty of interesting things for a 4 year old and I quite like markets and old towns...does anything fit the bill? dh has seen a cottage in Stratford upon Avon which looks quite nice. I also dread journeys, especially when I can't settle a small crying person in the back seat, so I'd like our journey to be max 3 hours, whereas dh would happily drive all day and night to get somewhere nice. IThis will probably be our longest holiday together for the foreseeable future, as he is a teacher but as a nurse my holidays rarely coincide with his, so being on maternity leave is a good opportunity so have a decent holiday, plus it will be our 10 year wedding anniversary in August so we'd like it to be a lovely holiday. Any thoughts?

I have to say my favourite spud is a roasted one - crispy (but not hard) on the outside and fluffy and soft in the middle. mmmmm
As for fillings for a jacket potato...I'm a bit of a cheese girl really - never had mushrooms with one veggie!

Does anyone know much of Stratford? We're talking about holidays which is causing the usual stresses because dh would like to camp somewhere, do lots of hill walking and ideally be near the coast - he loves Devon and Dartmoor. I would ideally never go on holiday because I always want to come home as soon as I'm there and count down the days till we can leave. I know I'm odd - just always been a home girl. Given that we will go away (I'm not so mean as to stop the whole family going away!) we will probably stay in a cottage somewhere hopefully pretty and a bit of countryside walking around, but with plenty of interesting things for a 4 year old and I quite like markets and old towns...does anything fit the bill? dh has seen a cottage in Stratford upon Avon which looks quite nice. I also dread journeys, especially when I can't settle a small crying person in the back seat, so I'd like our journey to be max 3 hours, whereas dh would happily drive all day and night to get somewhere nice. IThis will probably be our longest holiday together for the foreseeable future, as he is a teacher but as a nurse my holidays rarely coincide with his, so being on maternity leave is a good opportunity so have a decent holiday, plus it will be our 10 year wedding anniversary in August so we'd like it to be a lovely holiday. Any thoughts?

ooops sorry I did a ladyT there!

Trace go to Scotland tour the east coast I know more than 3 hours from you but you could break the journey in the Lake District. Ooops just remembered you are in York so Scotland would be perfect for you.

Kayz mean to say earlier well done on the weight loss.

Evening

Thank you for all your sympathies with regard to DH's back and my GP's scarey talk. DH is still in alot of pain but he can at least hobble around abit now and we have had no more faints. He is very brave actually and so desperate to not be a burden that he keeps trying to do too much. On the breast front I ended up calling my Godfather, who is a GP, and sobbing down the phone at him. He essentially said the same as you Lal, there is no link between mastitis and breast cancer and he had no idea why my GP would imply there might be. I feel much better about that now.

Lovely to see you briefly LadyT. You are one busy woman. It's quite awe inspiring. Sorry that you and your DP keep fighting, I hope the weekend with his family passes without event.

Kayz, congrats on the brilliant weight loss. That is an amazing achievement.

Spot, I have to agree with Trace, it is funny how little you remember baby sleep patterns etc once your child is older and that indicates how quickly this all passes. Ivremember DD1 had all sorts of day and night sleep issues but I barely remember what they were. What I do recall is that 7 months was a huge turning pointbforus. She was eating lots of solids and sitting and crawling and suddenly she slept better too.

Trace, I no nothing of Stratford I am afraid. I grew up v near Dartmoor so I am afraid I love your DH's idea of a great hol! That area is just so stunning and diverse and there is so much to do with kids. Could you not compromise and get a cottage down there? I could give you loads of tips for activities.

I am off to bed now. I went to the pub last night and stayed up 'til thebgrans hour of midnight and it nearly killed me!

Jam, thinking of your sister for next week, all fingers crossed.

Loving the typos!!!!!!
Veggie I wish I could get my "but better" lolololol!
And Spot def won't be "ditching the dunny" just yet - especially in light of our up coming trip!!
Lady I have been wanting to go to a pub quiz for ages, and ours is on Monday nights but dh has always said we need to get more people for a team, however we were at the pub last night and asked to see the last weeks questions! So I tested DH - just wondering - do the teams that win usually answer them all correct? dh got most of them correct on his own - but a couple he didn't know - I did (just a couple) lol so I was wondering how we would go just on our own as you said just you two are your team! I think we will try after our holiday! Whats the prize at your pub?

So much for my presentation planning , just been surfing MN & the internet randomly instead!

Am going to go to bed though, dh has offered to be on duty again tonight so am going to make the most of it! Though we haven't heard a peep from him yet & usually he starts around 10-ish so fingers crossed...

Hope you all have a lovely night's sleep

Jam, crossing everything for your sis.

Trace, Stratford is nice, but I would worry that you will find it limiting for a long period of time. There are other places to visit within driving distance of there (Cadbury World in Birmingham springs to mind for you ), but what about somewhere closer to home for you (somewhere on the coast?)

Tilly, I find it interesting to hear about your DS's pattern. Quite similar to mine. Course I don't mind you asking, Spot! Daftie. She has 4 x 7oz (I seem to recall that Kim's DS has this sort of amount too): 8ish in the morning, 1ish, 6-7ish, then 11.30ish. However, the last week or two she has drained a few bottles and then cried, so now I make up 8oz bottles instead, some of which she drains, but other times leaves up to 80ml! On average though, I would say she takes 7oz or so at a time. If T is only taking 40ml I would think this would cause fitful sleep. Hopefully someone can come on and tell you how to get him to take more. O doesn't like distractions, particularly. I had lunch with three blokes yesterday and she was too busy peering at them to tuck in. Where DOES she get it from

Listen Spot, I am sad you missed your night out in Soho. Soho is good for the soul. I promise you a night out there some time in the next few weeks to make up for it. Ok?

Hey Spot / Lady - ds has been the same recently - really distracted... looking around, smiling, even at what seems like nothing?? Sometimes i have to give him a break then he finishes it about half an hour later... DS has 5 feeds a day - 6am 10am 2pm 6pm and about 11pm. I've switched to Breast feeding for his first feed of the day, and then try to for the 2nd but usually only does for about 5 mins on that one then bottle, and the rest are 7 oz bottles... That's amazing O can take 8oz at once and only 4 feeds!!! Brillant lady - so convenient for you.

PMK - it's money prizes at our pub - jackpot depends on how many are playing. Last night it was only £40. Usually it's about £100 but I do it for the thrills! There is only a maximum limit on team members at our pub, not a minimum. There is usually a charge per team. I am always really scornful of the taking-it-too-seriously bearded types which prevail, but if I am being honest, I doubt no one takes it as seriously as I do. I am a competitive horror with quizzes and quiz machines! Anyway, must hang up washing and then do the recycling bins. It's a glamorama, my life.

Anyone watch The Apprentice last night?

Oh, and has anyone seen Summer Heights High? Just watching the series on dvd. It's very funny Can I ask any of the Aus girls if Chris Lilley is well known?

LadyT, it's a date .
Thanks for the bottle info. T is on 6 feeds so no wonder he's not hungry - has about 40-60 mls at 7.30 - 8.30 (takes that long to get it into him) before he goes for his next nap as he wakes at 6.30 am, then a bottle at 11am (210 mls, again takes an hour), 2.30pm (210 mls, takes about 45 mins). then 6pm (240mls, wolfs it down in half an hour) - I then tend to wake him at 10.30pm and he drinks 210ml in an hour, and he then wakes up at some point between 3am and 5am and has anything from 50ml to 120ml. So that's six feeds and he seems to get all his calories in the afternoon/evening. No idea how to change all that but would be great to combine his 3am feed with the 7.30am and for it to be less of a struggle!
Maybe should stop waking him at 10.30 and just seeing how he goes. I blame the baby books for doing that.
Sorry a v boring post, off to my mum's for the weekend, see you on Mon. xxx

Trace I went to Stratford overnight with my mum. I'm a Shakespeare fan so did all that stuff. Otherwise I'm not sure how fun it would be. Scotland would be wonderful, when are you planning going away?

DH has just had me in stitches. We are cleaning out the stuff downstairs and he found a bag of shoes. He found some nice black mens shoes he bought a while ago that are a little tight across the toes do he figured if he wore them around they might stretch. So he's put a pair of black sox on pulled up with the shoes which isn't funny but the only other thing he is wearing is his red boxers so it looks so funny I can't stop laughing at him.

Can you take a pic Veg and post it on Fbook?!

Chris Lilly is well known back home. He got in some trouble over that series I think becaus some Ginger kid got bullied and got called a 'ranger. Sorry that's making me giggle again. There is another series he did called we can be heroes which is also funny, a little painful at times, like the office. It has the Ja'ime character in it and is about a bunch of people who are nominated for the Australian of the year award and a mockumentary about them. We have it on DVD I can prob get DH to copy it if you want a look.

He won't let me spot, sorry. Shame, he's got a lovely body, better than BP.

Veggie, I would LOVE that if possible as I have only one ep of Summer Heights left and I am going to watch it in bed. What is a 'ranger??

Spot, if you are still on, 210ml is 7oz, right? If you fed him later than 10.30pm then went to bed, maybe he would ditch the middle of the night feed? Then he might be hungrier in the morning (that 7.30 feed doesn't sound right) and it might all shake down a bit. Will he take a dummy? I can't remember, but if he does wake up in the middle of the night, could you try just doing that? Anyway, I don't want to mix you up and you know your babe and his needs/routine, and I know suggestions can be so irritating sometimes. Have a lovely, relaxing weekend.

Aw, come on Mr Veggie....show us your socks.