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EffiePerine · 14/04/2009 17:38

Seeing as LadyT broke the thread...

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Veggiemummy · 30/04/2009 10:48

Morning, all the snot and mucus has kicked in now so have a mountain of tissues next to me. Ds2 is having a sleep with the babbling brook on so will see how long he lasts this morning.

I'm not fussed about swine flu, the UK is very set up for it and as sad as all the deaths in Mexico are it is a teeny tiny fraction of their massive population. I do find it amusing that people freak out about this virus risk but then they go out and have a smoke or cross the road were it isn't safe, or eat fatty foods, all things that could eventually kill them. I think some people like the drama and that's what the media feed off. I don't disagree that this is something to detract from the economy. The good thing is at least there is something else on the news. My SIL who seems to enjoy moaning to DH about the economy and also likes telling him that he has done the wrong thing investing in property, and that he should be very worried, will be freaking out about all this too. DH came off the phone this morning and asked about wearing a mask when he next has to work in London. I told him masks where just a way of making people believe they are safe so they will still go to work. I think most surgical masks are effective for 8 mins, we used to use TB masks that make you look like a duck but they are really expensive so I don think they will be handing them out.

Oh I really do hope this doesn't last

Veggiemummy · 30/04/2009 10:55

You could always just to cold turkey if he's not settling anyway it's not like you'll get much less sleep for now. I being feeling lately that DS2 is becoming quite dependant on it and not sure if I should try to cut it back a bit. He has been unwell so that might be why but also thought it might be though habit and the increase in he awareness.

Has anyone else noticed that their LOs are even better looking lately? DH & were looking at DS2 this morning and we both agreed he is looking even cuter, his skin is nice and clear and he is constantly smiling and doing cute things.

Have also been wondering where Lady is, but she is quite busy, maybe work is needing more attention.

Kayz we were lucky last night, we need to sort ourselves out for the game at home.

Kayzr · 30/04/2009 11:00

I know Veggie We really need to pull our socks up. I hate to say it but Man U should have had more goals. Almunia was brilliant though!!

waitinggirl · 30/04/2009 11:26

any tips on getting rid of a small red rash afrom around dd's mouth - presumably from dribble?

Kayzr · 30/04/2009 11:44

My god I have no life!! My new steam mop that I got myself as a birthday present arrived today. I am so excited!!!

jumpjockey · 30/04/2009 11:44

JJ's mid week health and safety briefing: don't put your baby into a bumbo until after they've had their morning poonamni. Just don't.

wg - we just mop dd's chin frequently when she's really dribbly, is it just little spots underneath her bottom lip?

veggie - you're etirely right about cuteness. DD's cradle cap is all gone, she's stopped scratching her face and while she's still pretty bald, her hair is really fair and shiny in the sunlight.

swine flu. Humph. I don't really imagine that a small blue mask is going to stop germs unless you seal it over your face before getting up in the morning and have also put airlocks on your doors and windows a la ET.

tilly - re sleeping in bed, we've got the same at the mo, dd wakes up for her feed at 11.30 (or on the odd occasion, 1.30 )and then is very hard to settle so I just bring her into bed with me. She spends most of the night on one boob or the other, which I guess is good in that she's getting plenty of milk. Discussed the situation with dh last night and we concluded that she's only going to be little once, and we quite like having her with us so we might as well enjoy it while we can and then when she gets too big and/or we can't keep it up any more, we'll move her to her own room.

zj the teething stuff we have (Teetha) is just from Boots, the stronger stuff veggie recommends has to come from a homeopath.

daisy great news about your nan

spot/wg if you have a N London meet that's accessible from the tube without too much faff do let us know, I'd love to pop down again

og quick moan, the builders are back next door hoicking more junk from back to front of the house into a skip so nowhere is quiet. And why do they have to communicate bu shouting? If they stood a bit closer to each other I wouldn't have to hear every word of their conversation
I've decided I'm going to win the lottery (need to start entering first ) and buy this house which is part of a run of houses near my college that I always really admired - and is detached!!

mmmm swanky house it's opposite a massive green so perfect for kids to play and also has a cute little garden of its own. If only we could find the spare £1.25mil down the back of the sofa...

Veggiemummy · 30/04/2009 11:46

WG ds2 gets that and around his upper chest where the dribble erm dribbles down to. is it bothering you DD? You could rub some Vaseline between your fingertips until it's very smooth the swipe a vaselined finger tip over the effected area.

Kayz we were very lucky, hoping ManU will regret their lack of goals.

Veggiemummy · 30/04/2009 11:55

Oh nice house so good it needs 6 pages to describe it's splendor. Maybe they would take a little less because of the credit crunch, £6.50 maybe?

traceface · 30/04/2009 12:54

hello!
nice house jj
Zoe - my teething powder is called Teetha by Nelsons and was just in my local chemist.
wg I find sudocrem heals all ills! A little on a rashy bit will work wonders

well the GP was fine - if you can count having your fanjo examined as fine! She thinks it all looks and feels normal but did some swabs so is going to wait for the results. Even though I mentioned problems with weeing and piles she didn't look at those things or really mention them, but I was too desparate to get my pants on to ask her to check them out too. I've stupidly googled my symptoms and have come up with a diagnosis, which is probably too grim for me to even mention on here
She thinks the hip pain may be burcitis (?) and will see me again in 2 months. If it's not better I'll maybe need some injections under scan or something. Didn't really get what she was talking about but wanted to leave the Room of Embarrassment so I didn't ask any more!

P has awoken (of course as I have just sat down with a plate of lunch!)

back later xxx

SummerLightning · 30/04/2009 12:57

hi all,
arti sorry to hear about your awful day. I suspect the doctor was just not thinking about how much what he/she said would worry you.

wg I had a giggle sorry at your DH moan. Mine does that too and I get irrationally annoyed at clearing it up the next day as I am ashamed to admit that I frequently do the cooking and leave the kitchen in a state for the next day myself. But as I'm always here in the day it's always me that ends up clearing up!

DS is in his baby bouncer, so cute trying to jump and making funny little chatty noises. He is so wonderful. (I am very soppy). So veggie I am with you on the cuteness. Oh god, he was just facing the other way so I called him and he turned around and smiled and did this cute giggly laugh. Uber cute.

jj am amused at your house moans. The joy of terraced housing eh? The unhygenic rat boys have just moved out of next door. I was hopeful that we might have some nice new neighbours (though not that hopeful). Some similar looking boys have just moved in. I saw one of them unpacking a bus stop sign. Oh dear. Not only are they still at the stage that they go round nicking signs, but they are obviously sad enough to store them for a significant amount of time and move them from house to house. So not looking hopeful. I just hope they don't ahve all night parties, which the old guys didn't do and I was always grateful for, as we used to when we were students!

LadyT has been around recentlyish hasn't she? And wasn't turnip have internet issues?

Well off to wedding tomorrow. Officially no longer dieting for a bit, as fed up of it! hooray! Oh and I got my haircut yesterday by dumping DS on my friend round the corner. Then went out to the pub on my own in the evening. Most excellent and a bit of a novelty. I tried to drink 3 pints in celebration but I got stuck on the 3rd pint and had to give most of it away. Must practice as the Cambridge beer festival is next month. Bit hungover today.

Right had better go pack for the weekend.

Kayzr · 30/04/2009 13:40

SL I hope your new neighbours are nice, have a good time at the wedding.

JJ That house is gorgeous!! I'd love to live in Cambridge. Spent many weekends there.

Veggie DS2 is very cute but he is just like DS1 and has awful cradle cap. Nothing clears it up so we're just waiting for it to go.

I'm at WW tonight. Not expecting to have lost much. I have decided I am going to lose a stone by 1st June. I have lost 6.5lbs so far so only another 7.5lbs to go.

LadyThompson · 30/04/2009 13:40

Hello girls!

Sorry for extended absence. I do miss you all when I am away. I was in London on Monday night, then Tuesday day was really hectic and then I was off to London again and only got back yesterday evening and we went straight to the pub quiz (came third this time, quite a feat with only two brains on our team). Then this morning I was just catching up and DP looked over my shoulder made a sarcastic remark about how my work is going (I had asked him to take responsibility for all DD things this morning so I could do some work) and we had a ding dong of a row. Oh dear.

First things first - Arti and Lal. Thinking of you both a LOT. Whilst I remain convinced that you are both ok I am so sorry you are having to suffer that sickening worry. Lal, roll on your appointment and peace of mind. Arti, I think your GP didn't handle it in the best of ways, but it is good that they will keep a close eye on you. And what a shock for you this morning with your poor DH! How is he now?

WG - take those books about sleep back to the library. I am serious. You will fret yourself into a frappuccino to no good end. Baby sleep is inexorable, I am coming to the conclusion, like God or the The Northern Lights. You will only drive yourself potty, trying to find rhyme and reason and pattern. Babies will generally just do what they fancy. I don't mean to sound nihilistic, and I know it's all very well for me to say, and I too have a naturally empirical approach to these things (is it empirical?), but...I am seriously starting to think that all these schemes and tips and routines and books are a racket, to stop us boggling at the essential formlessness and sheer anarchy of babydom. Or am I talking shit?

Summer - re: shopping for bottoms - I know what you mean about buying trousers at the moment but I am so much happier since I bought several pairs of M&S size 16 jeans. They actually look ok. Never in my life would I have imagined I could be a size 16, let alone envisaged being grateful for the existence of M&S jeans, but it's a crazy time. The rowing machine beckons. I have also purchased a number of pairs of shoes recently, as my feet are not yet fat.

By the way, our Veggie - your SIL is talking guff as usual. Your DH has done exactly the right thing by investing in property: it is the single most sensible long term investment. Fact.

PMK - How is the bikini shop going? I think TK Maxx is fab for bargains, love it. But if you want a really treatie bikini, do look at Elizabeth Hurley Beach on line. Her bikinis are really nicely cut. But £££. Out of season in Britain, though, I would say only department stores like Selfridges will stock them. Bicester Outlet Village is superb for designer bargains, if you could ever face the trip...Does your DS definitely need the colic drops still to burp? I still find that DD has to be dead straight before I can get anything out of her.

Spot - great about your book! Good luck with doing that, and I say that in a heartfelt way, as I have 2-3 months to finish mine and let's just say progress is slow. How great about your sis, though! I hope poor little T is feeling a bit better.

Jump - to go back to what you said a few days ago, you could never weigh down the basket as we all know that it defies the laws of physics

Kayz - Duran Duran I am slightly less impressed with Grotbags, Trace, as I always felt she was an unwelcome distraction from Emu. And those ghasly stage school kids But his best days were behind him by then. How fascinatingly creepy poor Rod Hull was. I have thought and thought about titbits about famous people. But I am too scared as most famous people are self-regarding and thin skinned and tend to obsessively google themselves or have people resarching mentions of them on the web and I don't want any off colour anecdotes traced back to me! How uncharacteristically party pooping of me! I suppose I have encountered a lot through work, and then my DH was a tv producer of some note as well so he had some cracking stories. My office is in Primrose Hill so we were always tripping over paps. None of this is very juicy, is it? Arti, again, you snogged Jason Donovan? Wow! I fancy him. I am only dusting off my volumes of showbiz anecdotes in person and where I can't be overheard! On the Brad Pitt front, a mate of mine used to work for Sky Movies and has interviewed a lot of movie stars. Only Dustin Hoffman was lovely. He interviewed BP when he was doing publicity for Troy or something and apparently he spent the entire interview fondling his own overdeveloped pecs.

Syb, I think I know what your job is

Jolly, I know you aren't here but re: the sterilising bags, you do need to swill the bleachy bottles out with tap water (which may defeat the object) but they do come out sparkling afterwards! Hope you have fun.

Effie, you sound so happy in your new pad. Good to hear. I think you handled it all with such aplomb!

Yes, where is Turnip? TURNIP! Come back, please!

Well, I am off again for the next few days. Tomorrow I have to go to London to have lunch with a friend who is over from Belgium, then Saturday I have to spend the day at Bluewater as DP is going to Brands Hatch with the twit from downstairs. Then we are off to friends in Hampshire, THEN we are off to DP's mother for a couple of days, then I have a lunch in Oxford, and then I have to go back to London for an appointment about my blood sugar (I am insulin resistant and hope to be able to go back on my pills as they will make it easier for me to lose weight). And then I will be back on the Fatties thread! I promise.

I don't want to go to MiL's. But I have to. She really irritates me. I know it is childish of me and I don't show it, except when I moan to my Mum about it. On Monday we will see DP's sister, her DH and the kids, which is lovely as she lives overseas and is over briefly, but I feel sulky and cross about spending Sunday and Tuesday with MiL. And I am fed up with rowing with DP. It boils down to the fact that he is grumpy and I am not. I am full of enthusiasm for life and whilst he does feel enthusiasm, there is perhaps less of it and he is less prone to express it. I find this annoying. And he has a stiff upper lip and, whatever the opposite of a stiff upper lip is, I have it. Sigh. But I must go off and feed myself and also DD... Cheery pip.

pmk1 · 30/04/2009 15:05

Hi Lady,
had a quick look at Lizzy's website - lovely and ££ yes but worth it I'm sure....
I'm trying to get organised for our trip but kind of got side tracked pulling out all the summer clothes I haven't worn in ages to see what fits I think they say your pelvis doesn't go back to its normal size for at least 9 months or something, don't they?? DON'T they?????? Actually it wasn't too frightening and most of my stuff fits just like when I was at my heaviest pre-preg weight I'm happy to say anyway, was going to write more but will have to come back as I'm far behind....

spotofcheerfulness · 30/04/2009 15:25

Sorry, self pity alert as am v tired, I will reply to others' posts (esp your epically impressive one, LadyT later, am just a bit fed up. Tried to go to baby cinema again today - but why as it's during T's normal nap time and I should have know he'd go ballistic. So we left after half an hour. It's so exhausting him only being able to nap when he's on the move (or fed to sleep at home where it's quiet), I've gone through a fair bit of shoe leather and pushchair wheels, and I know I should not try to do things at that time (as I did on monday when I went to pushy mothers). Sure, I could carry on doing those things but I can't enjoy myself when I know he's grouchy cos of lack of sleep and am just so of those whose LOs can sleep in a stationary car seat or pushchair surrounded by noise.
Has anyone had this situation with their older LOs and will they please please reassure me they eventually grow out of it?! I was meant to be going out tonight to friend;s b;day but am so exhausted think will have to welch. PLus I wasted six quid on a film I never got to see .
Sorry, rant over.
Oh not it's not quite. Now feeding is becoming a real battleground as I sometimes have to feed him flat on the floor as he's so wriggly and won't keep the teat in his mouth when I try to hold him at the same time. Sure that can't be right.
I am grotbags today, apologies.

tillyfernackerpants · 30/04/2009 15:38

spot [hugs] I think we try these things even knowing we shouldn't because there is the slightest chance the dc's might do what we want for a change!

ladyt busy again, I don't know how you manage it. I have enough trouble keeping up with the boys & the housework!

Well weaning is a non-starter, or maybe ds2's just not that keen on ds1's crisps , came into the room to 'look mummy, I'm feeding ds2', ds2 spat it out with a look of utter disgust, 'mummy, ds2's too little for crisps'

pmk1 · 30/04/2009 15:48

can I be impatient and ask this question again? The thought of bare arms on holiday is worrying with this horrid scene....

Quick question - I have often had those little bumps on the back of my arms but since being preg they have got far worse and red-ish at times - also at times coming up on the fronts of my arms? My post preg friend also has it and is getting something from the doc.... Anyone know what I'm talking about? it's horrid.... Is it a circulation thing?

Who was asking about dunny ditching? DS spits his in disgust if I give it to him at night time weirdly enough, but when he's really tired during the day and wants a nap, he wants his dummy too so I'm just trying to give it to him less and less and see whether he screams for it first

tillyfernackerpants · 30/04/2009 15:53

Pmk, it was me about dummy ditching, I think I'm a bit of a wuss though & can't bear the thought of him screaming for it!

Sorry I don't know about the bumps, I do wonder if it could be hormonal though? We still have lots of hormones from being pg & giving birth plus the bf floating around. Prob Veggie will have a better idea.

pmk1 · 30/04/2009 15:53

Arrrgh! I've just googled it, and it seems it does come on worse after pregnancy... guess I'll have to get some cream

kerastosis pilaris

pmk1 · 30/04/2009 15:55

Oh Tilly - yes I give it to him if he screams for it..... it's usually more of a whiney kind of cry when he is all red eyed and tired but can't get to sleep. He has started wanting to be put on his side, and he still wants to be swaddled.....

Kayzr · 30/04/2009 17:50

PMK, I have that too, never knew there was cream for it though. Will go and ask for some.

I have just returned from WW and have lost 3.5lb!!!! So 10lb in 4 weeks!!!!

Indith · 30/04/2009 18:22

I have been up since 3am. Dd's sleep does not exist any more, she has hardly slept today either yet has been absolutley wonderful and happy and giggly. I have theories, shall have to return after baths and bed to ask for opinions if I am still standing by then!

pmk1 · 30/04/2009 18:28

really really really really well done Kayz... [big clap emoticon]

LadyThompson · 30/04/2009 18:37

Oh yikes, girls, hope you get some rest/respite soon...

This probably won't help but just in case...DD has started to thrash her arms and legs around when she is on a train. She doesn't cry or seem distressed - excited, if anything. She did this the entire journey to London, and back, and both times the sheer physical effort of this made her conk out and snore once the train journey was over. Any way of inducing physical activity as a way of inducing sleep? Hard with babies I know.

Appropos of nothing, I am having baked potatoes tonight. I haven't had them in ages as they are very high GI, but I am still fat anyway so I am going to treat myself as they are my favourite food. People are normally surprised by this, but it is true. They would be a component of my Last Supper (but only if the skins were crispy). I would also have Pearl Barley Risotto and/or Mushroom Stroganoff and a glass of Krug! Not fussed about a pudding.

LadyThompson · 30/04/2009 18:38

OH, and Kayz - that is BRILLIANT! I am very . Jolly well done.

Veggiemummy · 30/04/2009 18:52

Hooray kayz that is brilliant well done you.

PMK I wonder if brushing the area with a loofa would help? DH has something similar buy being a boy it doesn't bother him, he gets little teeny pimples there and used to have loads of pimples as a teenager. I had read that it is genetic, but that doesn't really help much sorry. I can say though that as DHs natural skin colour is quite dark it's not too noticeable unless you are up close to him. Maybe as you tan it might get a but better. However there is no harm getting a cream, however make sure to check the cream doesn't make you skin more sensitive to sunlight and if you can use sunscreen while using it. I wouldn't be surprised if sunlight and seawater improves it (they are good for so many things even kill MRSA) so as tempting as it might be to cover up I would leave your arms to get some sun as much as possible.

Lovely as always to hear from you LadyT, sorry to hear you have had a couple of tiffs with DP, the big they, say opposites so I'm sure you'll be fine. Though I also think sometimes not so happy people get a bit jealous of people who of a sunnier disposition and this can cause conflict. DH and I are quite sunny people but his sis isn't and I do wonder if this is why she puts down a lot of his ideas and just general outlook on life.

All you BFers have any of you been a bit more erm full lately. For a couple of months I've been a bit droopy for want of a better word, and if I didn't know better I would wonder if I had enough milk, but just last week or two I have been, well buxom! I'm a little pleased at the lovely weather we've had as I have had a chance to show them off.

Still snotty here and I think ds2 is still feeling it as he has been quite grumbily. DH is going to cook tonight and look after me. However tonight is also day one of clean up the basement. When we moved all the 'don't need it now but I'm sure we will one day stuff' down there, but it's getting to be a mess and it's quite musty down there and it flooded a bit in the rain we had on tuesday a so it's time for action. Also ds2 is moving into 6-9 month clothes so I need to get DS1s old clothes up. Still find it bizarre that for body stuff like vests and tops he fits 6-9months but trousers he could still be a little small around the waist and even legs. I must have a child with a ultra long body but tiny legs!