Fab Feb 2009: too sleep deprived to think of a new thread title

[dinkystinky]

'nuff said

Yep PT for once your mother is right. I did a shopping trip with my two last week and they developed an uncanny knack of pooing, vomiting or screaming just as I stopped to look at anything. I came home empty handed....

dd kept refusing to go toilet, then announcing as we got back down to the shopping leval 'mmmuuuuummmmmmeeeeee, i need to peeeeeeeee', so we'd drag everyone back upstairs (no mean feat with a toddler scared of esalators, lifts that don't come and are full when they do and a buggy too heavy to push easily up the flat escalator thingy that was unhelpfully turned off) and she'd go only for ds1 or aaron to poo as soon as we set foot in the shop again

whatever happened to the days when every shopping centre had a creche? i used to love being dumped in the creche while my mom did boring shopping!

Pink - DS1 had chickenpox 2 christmases ago and still has the scars on his torso. Am keeping my fingers crossed he loses them by the time he grows up, but your post makes me think maybe he wont. Oh well, at least they're not on his face...

Calico - has the DIY obsessive stopped drilling and sawing now??

Went to London Zoo this morning with the boys and DH - the new animal adventure zoo is lovely and DS1 loved it (particularly the water feature - word of warning, if you go there take a spare change of clothes and towel for the little ones - he got soaked! Fortunately we had the OPT kit with us so could change him into dry clothes). Danny (who has decided sleep at night is for the weak for the past 3 nights - in fact ever since he had his 2 month old jabs - and is now rejecting day time sleeps too) slept the whole way round! Then got home and DS1 had a wee accident in the downstairs loo while washing his hands for lunch - which DH greeted with dismay and disappointment. I pointed out to DH this is NOT the way to deal with accidents - even Gina says its not the way! - and perhaps he'd like to actually read the potty training guidance books I asked him to read several months ago as a precursor to operation potty training. He is now sat reading them.....

dinky, the scars i still have are the ones i picked the worst.... i'm a picker by nature and dug at a couple of them really badly, they're not obvious, i know the little dent in my forehead is a CP scar but i doubt many other people notice it...... well, considering i have a 5 inch scar down the side of my forehead i doubt anyone at all notices the teeny CP dent now but even before the big scar was there i hardly ever had people ask... and irish people ask when they see a scar... nosy feckers

dinky I love the way you said there 'even Gina says it's not the way'

So, I was up most of the night with Luke and his cold, sooooooo much easier at home. Dp got up with them this morning, but ame to wake me at 7am because I wanted us to go shopping and he decided it would be great to get out of the house 'just after 9' , he said he woke me at 7 because he knows how long it takes me to get ready , I did point out that was because i had to get myself ready plus 2 babies, but it might go quicker if he got one of the boys dressed instead of sitting watching me do it..........
We got Luke a cot, we went to Argos, Toys r us and then Mothercare. Dp didn't want to spend too much because once you've then bought the mattress and some bedding......we got just a standard cot this time (ds1's is a cotbed and is massive), so bit cheaper anyway. The Mothercare World store doesnot hold cots in stock so we had to order it. It should be here by friday. Can't wait. We also got one with a drop side. Ds1's doesn't have a drop-side and that's the one thing I have always regretted about his cot, the number of times I have nearly done myself a serious injury!

Good evening all.

I finally chose my new name - taking inspiration from lbb, STW and of course, Elvis .

It's quite liverating really!

Am loving the sunshine today! Went to St Johns Wood High Street to get DS1 some new shoes (including Scooby Doo crocs which we had to wrestle them off him when it was his bath time) and had a lovely time in the play ground there which has been totally redone. Totally recommend it to anyone with little ones if they're ever in that neck of the woods...

So, after DS1's accident this afternoon he told us 3 times that he needed the loo - and went every time - and even did a poo in the potty (which he told me he wanted to do) before bed time. I'm a very proud mummy! Trying to figure out what to do tomorrow morning in the sun - Kensington Gardens or Columbia Road market and Hackney City Farm... decisions decisions...

Glad you found a cot for Luke LBB. I agree dropsides do make life a lot easier - the cot at my mum and dad's place has one but DS1's (now DS2's cot) doesnt and you can really tell the difference when the little ones get quite hefty...

Grr - I don't need liverating, I need liberating!!!

Oh, and it's MrsY, btw!

Was wondering who you were! Good name!!

although liverating sounds intrigueing doesn't it?

i think i've joined the 'o my god i have a weddig to squeeze my flabby arse into a dress for' club.

had thought i wasn't going to my cousins wedding after working out the finances last week and realising for all of us to go (either me and the kids or dp, me and the kids) would come close to a grand... so obviously right after i scrawl 'cannot accept' on the damn rsvp form my mother rings to say if i go with her with just aaron she'll pay for the hotel and she's found flights for just 69euros. so looks like i'm going to have to find a dress am very tempted to splash out on an all saints number and call it an investment but not sure how summer wedding appropriate most of their pieces are, lol

Great name PSL

I'm quite upset this morning. I've been thinking about this friend I have, we were best friends all through secondary school and continued after although we had different things in our lives, I went straight to work and found a bunch of new friends, she didn't work or continue schooling but had a serious boyfriend. I would try at least once a fortnight to organise a night out or meet-up with her, even just sitting round her house for an hour, when she did find the time to meet, it had to be with her boyf too, which I didn't really mind, he was a nice guy. A few years later, I moved out of London, not far, only to Woking, but in the 3 years I lived there (pre ds1), she visited me once and all other times we got together I travelled to her. So when ds1 was born, she came over to visit twice but all other times, again, I had to travel to he on public transport (she drives), which I would do (although rarely), even when heavily pregnant. Now Luke is here, I have 2 under 2, still don't drive so have to travel on public transport.
She calls herself my best friend but hasn't come to meet my baby, but makes it clear that I should go to her house, which I do need to do, she moved at christmas, but then says we should go for a drink when I can get rid of the kids. Now, I appreciate she is young, free and single and I am not, I don't want to go out drinking and she doesn't want to talk babies, but I think she should have made the effort to come and meet |Luke. I think I'm going to say something to her. Whenever she has planned to visit me at home, she has always cancelled that morning saying she went out and had too much to drink the previous evening. It's not too much to ask for her to put one saturday night aside and one sunday morning is it? I wouldn't hesitate at travelling to hers if I knew she'd return the effort, but clearly she won't. Should I say something? Should I let her know she's upset me? I put a diggy coment on my FB status so she'll ask later who that's about, do I say 'you, you silly cow'?

Her sister has 2 children and my friend always tells me how she's amazed that anyone does it when she sees what her sister puts up with and has to do, and has also said to me more than once at how well I'm coping (how would she know) because she know's I don't get the help and support that her sister does and that I just crack on with it.......so why does she expect me to make all the effort with her? Is it that she knows I will? Is it that maybe I need her more than she needs me now? All my friends now are mum's so does she think she's my last contact with the crazy world of going out drinking? Does she really think that when you have children, you're over, you start to shop at BHS and only go out on free bingo nights?????

lbb.... i lost all my friends after having dd. same as you i don't live where they all do anymore and none of them wanted to make the effort to keep in touch once i was a mom. it made me sad and angry for a long time as i'd known some of them since we started secondary school together. dd's godmother hasn't even met ds1 and aaron.... in fact we fell so badly out of contact after she couldn't be bothered to come meet caleb when i had him i hadn't even told her i was pregnant again this time, she found out i had a third when she rang to tell me aidan had died

if she's a good friends she'll make the effort, if not then well at least it wasn't down to you that the friendship fell apart as you've cearly made tonnes of effort to keep in touch.

had a shitty night last night, we had a mate round and just as he left at 1am aaron woke up, took a while to get him down, then ds1 woke up because his foot was sore (?!) and he woke dd and the 2 of them ended up in the bed with us... 2 hours they spent there not going to sleep and keeping me awake before eventually going back to their own room and i still had to go in 2/3 times before they settled... by which time aaron was awake again. was 5am before i got to sleep

my head is pounding now

Mostly been offline as my confuser got hacked. It is at the doctors. Hope to be back soon. I have been trying to keep up with you guys using my phone but (thank god) I can't post with it.

Swampster - hope the computer makes a full recovery.

LBB, Pink - its really sad when you lose touch with people you were once so close to because they dont make the same effort you do. Sadly it happens alot - have lost touch with lots of people I was really close to at school and university as a result of this... but on the plus side, you get to make new friends all the time when you have kids and your life moves on...

Pink - sorry your kids are ganging up on you to ensure you dont sleep at all - fingers crossed they all sleep deeply tonight so you can too. Danny has slept maybe 2 hours in total during the course of today and is a total and utter cranky pants - think he got a cold (his second - or third maybe - I lose count) straight after having his jabs earlier this week (or maybe was coming down with it at the same time). Every time he feeds he snots on me - its delightful... And he's not sleeping at nights either so I'm not. Am hoping he's not going to be a serial cold monster like DS1.... Hope you're all having much better times of it at the moment.

well i discovered today why aaron has been drooling like a st bernard all week.... all four canine teeth are just poking through the gums

dd did this too, she got her 2 left canines at 3 months which promptly disappeared, spent the next 9 months teething constantly but with no teeth appearing until she got 8 in the space of 2 days just before her birthday.

on the plus side aside from the massive quantities of drool he doesn't seem hugely pushed so whether they stay or disappear at least it's not bothering him.

dinky... poor danny having another cold. have you ever tried echinacea for your ds1? i think they do kids versions and it's really helped dp avoid getting any more colds after his pneumonia bout before xmas... if he feels a cold coming he doses 3 times a day with echinacea for a few days and it never come on.

hope you get some more sleep tonight... could your dh take him downstairs for a few hours so you at least get a few hours at the beginning of the night?

swampy..... yay! we missed you. hope the puter feels better soon and you can rejoin us properly

TEETH

lol, i have no doubt they'll disappear and he'll be gummy and toothless til a ripe old age like dd was (i blame dp's weirdo genes for this stuff )

PT Thanks. It is a shame, re my friend, not sure if she does it intentionally and I know it can be boring listening to someone go on and on about their dc's, I remember my friends having babies years ago, boring.........but I never said anything or distanced myself (I don't think) Nevermind, we are all set on different paths.
Hope tonight is better for you, last night sounded like a tough one.
Hello swampster
dinky you are right. I have met some wonderful people that I wouldn't have done if I hadn't had dc's.
Sorry Danny is unwell, hope you have a better night tonight and he gets better soon.
We had a lovely day today. The 4 of us went to Syon Park after lunch. They have a tropical zoo there, we saw fish, turtles, a crocodile, some more fish, massive ones, frogs, snakes, parrots, guinea pigs, more fish, a cat and some chickens! Ds kept pointing out saying "what's that?" really high pitched and excited and kept saying "wow, wow, wow, wow, wow" he also yelled at the parotg "get down!!!"
Dp didn't have much cash on him as was a spontaneous outing so once we paid to enter tropical zoo, we didn't have enough on us to enter Syon House which was a shame, but dp has promised we can do it another day. He knows I like to feed my obsession with Henry VIII

PT am intrigued by the idea of teeth coming through and then disappearing. Is that normal?! DS1 was a chronic teether in that he was constantly teething from around 3 months until all his teeth came through. Thank goodness for Ashton & Parsons.

Think we're going to try the Diana Playground today. Hope it's not too heaving...

LBB what a shame your friend can't make more effort. I have lost touch with some friends who don't have children but got much closer to those that do. I think it is inevitable as your lifestyle changes so much.....but a 'best friend' should be interested in your little ones too!

Dinky - yes, DIY nightmare continued this weekend. Kitchen now has more shelves but they are still covered in wet paint so all the items off the shelves are covering every available surface so kitchen is unusable....I might have to take DCs out for lunch today to compensate!

PT omg teeth already!!

Wow - teeth already Pink! That's impressive. DS1 started teething early but didnt actually produce any teeth until well after his first birthday. He's still got some back molars coming through and he's 3 on Saturday! AT this rate he will have his milk teeth until his teenage years...

Danny was better last night (only woke 3 times) but I couldnt sleep after the first wake up - think it was due to house and money worries. We bought our house right at the top of the market last year and since moving in have realised it needs a lot of work (we thought it was a perfect, just move in and live property of course) - mortgage is fine at the moment but deal comes to an end in January. Went round to see some friends down the road who have finished doing all the work to their house and made it a perfect 5 bed - and they've put it on the market as they're moving to Sweden - and offers coming in on the house are over £100k less than we paid for our house So now really worried about remortgaging come January (which I know is a way off but still kept me awake all last night)...

thom.. they never came up fully, just broke through the gums and had a few milimetres of tooth above the gum line and then stuck at that point... i don't think the teeth went back down so much as the gum grew over them again iykwim?

was very funny at playschool a minute ago, was dropping in some shopping for them and brought he boys in (partly to test if ds1 would remember to ask to go toilet there... he did ). dd's teacher was cuddling aaron and there were a crowd of little ones clustered around playing with him and he was grinning like a loon. one little boy piped up 'look he has teeth!' and the teacher laughed and said 'he does not have teeth, he's only tiny!' she couldn't believe it when i showed her and the little boy couldn't resist saying 'told you he had teeth!'

calico... i think you deserve luncj out your dh's diy frenzy motivated me to put up the shelves i bought last year over the weekend.... am very proud of myself.

dinky, try not to stress too much, january is a long time off, alot could change between now and then

Morning all....
LBB hard with friends sometimes isn't it. The difficulty is that if you say something you then make a "thing" of it. I find friendships come and go according to circumstances. Probably due to my age most of our friends do have kids now although not all the same age as DS/DD which brings its own set of issues - and those that are single, I make an extra special effort to make time for then alone rather than always with the kids although one in particular still drops the odd [v.annoying] comment about the time which we don't spend together anymore. She is someone though, together with another friend who now has kids, we used to spend a lot of time with pre-dc's. Life moves on. Like Dinky says though I've lost a couple along the way but made some lovely new ones too. TBH with a couple of my friends who've gone a bit "funny" I've found that if I leave them alone long enough they either come back or they disappear in which case at least you know where you stand...
We used to live near Syon House.....

PT - teeth - oh no.....DS was an early teether - his teeth always came through first in our "group" and they made their move and just popped through - he had the whole lot by 2. He didn't suffer too badly but the first two were through by 5 months. It's genetic isn't it I think so you'll prob find that either you or dp were early teethers. I think I may be able to say [quietly] that DS is potty trained - Since going cold turkey on the pull ups, we've not had an accident and he asks to go if no potty near or just goes if we're at home and then tells us he's been.....I was expecting it to be awful but am glad I just waited til he told me pretty much he was ready and went for it. It has co-incided though with a hideous clingy phase - he's very reluctant to go anywhere without me and has decided that waking between 5.30/6am is a good idea again . DH is very grumpy about it.....

Dinky - the old housing stuff is very worrying I know but as PT says a lot can change in a few months. Could you get your house valued at the moment so that even though that might change again you can at least have a plan of action in place? It might help you to feel more in control of the situation if you can discuss and plan rather than worry ? We're trying to sell our buy to let which we bought in September and are heading for a loss on it - sorry not trying to make you feel worse. Basically we wanted to buy a house (to live in as a family) which came up in a road where people never move. It needed doing up. The people who wanted to buy our old house had a terrace in the town which was very rentable. So, we bought their terrace as a buy to let, they bought our old house and we also then got our house to renovate. But the renovation money is in the rental. At the moment we'll know we'll have to sell at a loss coupled with the money we've spent on stamp duty,mortgage fees for buying and estate agent and other fees for selling (free legals thankfully via work). The tenant is moving out in June so we may also have a few tenant free months before we decide whether to re-let or continue to market for sale......

Lovely sunny day here today - DD has gone to bed and I'm tossing up whether I'd like to do the weeding or jump in the hammock with my book . I did promise DH I'd tackle the weeds this week but I might have to do it tomorrow instead. DD has woken at 7am the last few mornings from 11pm but she seems much more tired in the day wonder how that works. She also has a snotty nose and her 12 week injections tomorrow morning so no doubt it'll all go wrong. DS as I said woke at 5.30am so DD might have got the message but DS is determined not to give me a lie in