Fab Feb 2009: too sleep deprived to think of a new thread title

[dinkystinky]

'nuff said

Happy Easter everyone.Quickly checking in from parent's place while mum cuddles Danny and dad and DH play football with DS1. Elkiedee- hope you scoffed DS2's easter egg. That's what I've been doing for Danny all Easter break (particularly as come Tuesday am going on a health kick and eschewing the cakes and chocolate for a month as now seem to be putting weight on again which cant be a good thing) and am sure he's loving the chocolate milk! DS1 know has approximately his bodyweight in easter eggs to take back home - will definitely test my will power not scoffing those over the next month - still lots of chocolate ammunition there for potty training incentives

Chilled - hope you had a good time at Centreparcs. Was wondering where you'd got to...

LBB - glad DS1 is on the mend and that your DP is being a star.
Glad to hear all good at the moment with your DP too Pinktulips - long may it last.

Catstar - at your DH; if he's not cut out for domestic drudgery, but also doesnt like you having to do it (and end up talking about domestic things) who does he think will deal - the housework fairy??? I hope he comes round to accepting what life with 2 little children is like soon and gives you a break. And hope you sorted out that night out - you definitely deserve it.

Calico - god it sounds like DIY disaster at your house! Good luck getting through the rest of the easter break with your DH and his projects. I dread to think what he's going to get up to next...

Swampster - am sending you lots of sympathy on the colds all round. Though those long johns sound lovely...

Herb - hmm, sounds like your DH should give Calico's DH some DIY pointers... Well done on your outing with DS and the pottette. Hope you have a nice lunch with the grandparents today.

And I hope everyone else has a nice chocolatey laid back day today.

P.s Markstretch - your cardy made me laugh!

dinky... i also seem to be gaining weight so am enjoying today, then ditching the chocs and biccies for a while [eek]

how's ds1 going with the potty training at your parents.... has he watered their carpets yet?

Have had one accident in Operation Potty Train here - but sadly DS1 was sitting on his knees so just watered his legs. Had to run out to Sainsburys to buy him some more pants as foolishly left the carrier bag full of pants and spare trousers at home (though remembered the potty - phew) [Bad mummy emoticon] However, its now been about 3 hours since his last wee and he keeps saying he doesnt want his potty, so there's a chance of watered carpets yet How's it going with your DS1?

all goood so far today, he's asked to go several times and no accidents yet... although it's nearing poo o' clock so on the grounds that he hasn't yet got one in the loo i'm not getting my hopes up today!

will put him in a pull up for the drive as he'll most likely doze off and then let him run free an pee all over my mother's house this afternoon

Happy Easter everyone!!

We're just back from a village Easter egg hunt - most of the under 10s in the village were there - it was mayhem. DS didn't really get what was happening and instead found a dead mouse that he was very interested in putting into his little basket but I managed to persuade him that chocolate would taste a bit better... then we all went back to a friend's house for buck's fizz and smoked salmon bagels - and I had my hands free as Lilian was quite happy being passed around all the mums.

Now just have to persuade DH to stop drilling and sawing wood for long enough for DS to have a little nap...

Happy Easter !. !!

Dinky - sounds like you're having a nice time at your parents.

I too have decided that Tuesday is the day when the health kick starts - healthy eating and exercise. It's 8 weeks til our holiday and 12 weeks til my sisters wedding and I need to lose about 10lbs (realistic weight which I can then hopefully sustain rather than stupid too much weight) - it'll be interesting to see if I can and how long it takes. Being, ahem, a year off 40 I'm not finding it as easy as I used to.

OPT continues here too. We've been home all day and no accidents. DS was absolutely hysterical about not wanting pants when he got out of bed this morning and even tried to put his very heavy sodden nappy back on again after I took it off and told him to choose his pants for the day. I had to tell him we had no more pull ups and that he could either go bare bottomed or wear pants (really didn't know what approach to take then) - eventually brought him round - but funny thing is he doesn't then get the hump and purposely pee/poo in his pants, he does fine once we get him round. It's a fine line as I don't want to make him so upset that he gets a "thing" about it.

Catstar - You wonder whether men seriously thing we enjoy the domestic stuff don't you - we just have to get on with it uncomplainingly don't we. DH always says that perhaps if I asked nicely it would help . I always say to DH that if he did things without me asking I wouldn't have to ask him to do it in the first place.

Had a lovely day with the family. DH's great grandma was in her element having cuddles with DD and then DS snuggled up to her (she was on his favourite chair) to watch his Easter present Charlie and Lola DVD....sweet.

I have too many easter egg temptations now. What am I going to do with them ???....Maybe will have to eat them all tomorrow. I'm full of scones and clotted cream and jam and lovely homemade choccie eclairs and teabread......

Calico at your ds wanting to put a dead mouse in his basket. I'm sure i wouldn't/won't be laughing when it's one of my ds's doing things like that though

Nothing at all happening here. Came close to getting into a cyber-scrap here on MN because I posted this morning asking if shops were open as normal.......for a while there, I was bang out of order because I wanted to go to the shops and someone called me sad because I couldn't think of anything else bar shopping to entertain myself with blah blah blah, but it was ok. Someone said they were going to the local co-op for veg for dinner and that was fine, I said I wanted to pop to Robert Dyas for a mop and I get a near flaming! I really don't get this site sometimes.

lbb just ignore them......who cares if you need to go to the shops on Easter Sunday. Who are they to judge eh??. My mum wanted to buy flowers this morning for me but didn't realise the shops were closed. Our Tesco Metro was open and there was queue a mile long...I only wanted the Sunday paper so gave up - I can read it online anyway.

I'm bored this evening. DH has been glued to the Masters all weekend so I don't get to watch any telly and anyway I'm bored of this telly and bored of my four walls and I can't find a book to get into. I NEED TO GET AWAY !!!!.........I was in such a bad mood this morning when the weather was miserable drizzling AGAIN. I just want to get out in the fresh air with DS and potter in the garden. Hopefully things might get better though as I've a busy couple of months ahead including a hen weekend away and a night away at a wedding Yay !!!.....God I can't wait.

Oh herb
It does all seem awful when the weather's bad doesn't it. I really wanted to get out today because the boys are driving me insane, well it's mainly ds1 because he's still abit under the weather, and Luke's decided he wants to be held all the time, but ds1 also wants to lay on me all the time so I'm litterally juggling them!
I finished my book yesterday, was very good which was a suprise, I wasn't expecting it to be. It was one of those books you randomly find in the bottom of the wardrobe and have no idea how it got there......so I went through the box of books that I haven't put in the loft yet and am reading Mario Puzo's The Last Don again while I wait for the new Lee Child book to be released on 23rd April, I'm very excited about that.

I was holding Luke earlier so he was sitting on my lap facing me. he was looking directly into my eyes and started baby gurgling, like he was talking to me, made me smile.

lbb at you getting shite for asking about the shops being open. some people really don't get that some of us find it more relaxing to be out of the house than in it when we've young kids climbing the walls! did you get your mop in the end?

just back from my parents... oddly aaron was infoulf humour for the last few hours, he was the same last time we were there... maybe my mom irritates him as much as she does me? wish i could just scream my lungs out when she's doing my head in

kids ate an ungodly amount of chocolate but were fairly good considering, dp let me drive and didn't get arsy or make mean comments, actually told me i'm a great driver now and he can't believe how much i've improved since he was last in the car with me (couldn't refrain from pointing out that's because the last time he let me drive him i'd only been driving a week and he stressed me out so much i was in tears!) going to be boring and head to bed after thi ucuppa though i think, shattered and dp will no doubvt be taking his lie in tomorrow despite me not gettingmine on saturday yet again

OPT went well, only one accident all day although that poo never showed up so now i'm worried he's holding it!

hope everyone had a nice day

Morning.
PT No, I didn't, I used babywipes on the sticky bits but hopw to get it done today, although I'm not feeling too hot either.

I had to call the out of hours doctor to come round last night. I was quite happily watching Desperate Housewives and I heard ds1 wake up groaning, I did think he'd heard me get the chocolate out, so I went into him and he was red hot again, so took his temp and it was 41.8, so grabbed him up, carried him into kitchen, I could feel him shaking against me, sat him on the side and gave him some ibuprofen, brought him into living room, stripped him down, put a sheet over my leather sofa and laid him on that. Called NHS line who told me a nurse would call back but there was a 4 hour waiting list, so I said I'd just call OOH, we ran through his symptoms (nothing but temp) and they said they'd get someone out in the next hour and half. 90 Mins later, I get a phonecall saying I could take him to Ashford hospital and get seen straight away there as I was only walking distance away, but I had to say I was at home on my own with him and a newborn and I certainly wasn't going to bundle my children into the pushchair to walk them to the hospital at midnight and that the last time I had to take ds1 to Ashford in the middle of the night, the minute I arrived, the on call gp told me I shouldn't have taken him there because there isn't anything there to treat him so ended up at St Peter's A&E with him anyway which is why I'd requested a home visit.
So called dp who said he'd come home, and we waited for te doc until 2:30am. He said ds1 has a viral infection which is why antibiotics aren't working and I need to give him calpol/ibuprofen alternatly every 3 hours t keep him covered for 24 hours a day.
I'm knackered. Dp was in bed yesterday from 8am to 6pm, came home early from work last night, fell asleep on the sofa while we waited for doctor and has now gone tobed!!!!! I'm so knackered by whole body aches and I have the worst headache.
And although dp got the boys up and fed them both, no one's dressed, no washing up's been done, no bottles are sterilised, and no one is dressed. I know I've already said this, but he knows it winds me up

Oh LBB - that sounds like a really horrible night and so scary. Just do the minimum you have to today (which sound like bottles being sterilised and feeds for Luke and cuddling and medicating DS1) and all sit on the sofa today. And as for getting flamed for just asking if the shops are open... ... people clearly need to get out more over easter.

Calico - your DS's easter treat made me giggle...

Herb - glad you had a good day yesterday. I'd eat all those chocolates today if I were you - better to make yourself sick today on chocolate so you're not tempted to eat any for at least a month...

Pink - glad OPT is going well at yours. We had 3 accidents in quick succession yesterday afternoon at mum & dad's place - fortunately only tiny wees - but none so far today (2 big wees on the potty when prompted to go). We're off to a museum today when Danny wakes up so MUST remember to take OPT kit with me...However, DS1 only goes to the potty when we remind him to (rather than asking for it) so I think this week's job is going to be getting him to realise when he needs to go to the loo - so am expecting lots of accidents....

lbb.... i'm so sorry your poor little ds1 is still suffering, you must have been terrified last night. fevers are so bloody scary in little ones aren't they? i hope he comes out the other side soon. at your dp.... i hate the way they feel if they do a half assed job of dealing with their own kids they should be rewarded for it.... have a duvet day today, let the washing pile up... like dinky said, only do what has to be done in order to get through the day... ie the bottles...... the cleaning and washing will just exhaust you and ds1 certainly doens't nee dto be dressed and seeing as ye're ot going anywhere neither do you or luke. REST sweetie! {{{{hug}}}}

dnky, although yesterday was good with only one accident (on my mothers dining chair [evil grin]) we're having similar issues with ds1, he has only asked for the toilet twice so far and it's usually us telling him to go so we need to work on him understanding the sensation of a full bladder. i was right about the poo, he was holding it and had a scary huge compacted poo in his nappy this morning which frightened the life out of him need to work on that too..... have no idea how though!

had a long night here, aaron seems to have hit a growth spurt and has been feeding all night, normally i can doze if he feeds but he was in that annoying snuffly unlatching every 5 seconds humour so i'm shattered, dp got up with the kids but aaron was not willing to stay in bed with me so had to get up after 20 mins... he's just dozed off so will do a quick surface tidy and curl up on the couch with a book. the place is a tip but that can wait til tomorrow!

LBB- that sounds like a nightmare night, hope your DS1 starts to feel better soon, poor thing. And hopefully you'll get a decent rest soon, sounds like you need it

We're going to grandparents today for an easter egg hunt.

I weighed myself yesterday for the first time since F was born. is all I can say. No wonder none of my clothes fit, I'm still a stone heavier than I was when I got pregnant!

Thanks guys.
MS You're brave, I don't think I'll go near weighing scales ever again!

Ds1 is fine in himself, he's been running around like normal this morning and doing all the things he shouldn't be, so how long do you think I should keep him in for? I'm going to cance the trip to the farm with the play group on wednesday, but we were supposed to go to SIL's on thurs for the weekend, I should cance that too shouldn't I? She lives in a seaside town so can be quite chilly and they'd have us out all day.....

Evening. I was going to say all, but is it just me??? I'll be here talking to myself now!

Dp finally surfaced just after 3pm, the cheeky sod, I did point out that today he had as much sleep as I had in a 48 hour period last week and this.........
Ds1 has been fine today, I called the OOH doc back this afternoon to get advice about what to do this week re farm trip and weekend away. Just because I think ds1 is fine, apart from the temp. He isn't mooping around feeling sorry for himself or I wouldn't even consider letting him out, he is running around and playing and chatting as normal, he isn't vomitting, his stools are a bit loose but it's not dihorrea(sp?), he doesn't seem to be in any pain and his temp today has been fine. The doc said he's not really sure why I was told to give him 3 hour doses of meds, I should only give meds if his temp is high, so just to check it every few hours and treat as need be, he also wasn't sure why it was implied that I should keep him in, and he said if ds seems well in himself, is responsive and behaving normally there's no reason to keep him in as long as he is dressed sensibly for the weather, and that I should judge it in the same way I would for myself, if he seems well on the morning, go on the trip, take some calpol with me just in case and if he gets bad, come home. So I have decided that as long as he is ok tonight and tomorrow and temp doesn't get that high again, then he's fine. Dp thinks this is a result of ds's last 2 teeth coming in.
I am thinking of maybe taking him to our gp tomorrow to see what he says about activities this week and just get the ok.

Now just waiting for Luke to get it too. Oh the joys........

Also, if temp is supposed to be 37.5, if it goes higher, I give meds and strip him down a bit depending on just how high it goes, but what if his temp goes low? Earlier it was 36.5, so although not a huge amount, is treatment as simple as just putting some more clothes on him????

Do you think I'm the worlds worst mum for still allowing him to go on trip? I'll be there too so can keep an eye on him, I don't think the temp is a result of anything sinister and the fresh air might do him good and days out take his mind off feeling a bit unwell?

I hope the lack of posts means that everyone has had a good weekend.

LBB poor you. It's frightening when they get like that but glad you got reassurance from the doc. Why don't you see how you go although I do tend to find that DS takes a while to get over these things when he's been poorly like that so you might be wise to take it easy.

We've had friends over today - DH cut the lawn and we got the BBQ going and sat out. Ooh it was lovely. Only thing is that DD was very fractious when awake and very sleepy all day today. She then seems to have a rash on her face (she had one on her body in the week). Doesn't particularly have a temp but not sure. Anyway, gave her a 2.5ml of calpol and phoned NHS direct and they went through all the nasties which we don't think it is.They think a post viral rash given that DS was poorly last week and she's been a bit off colour a few times this week. I'm going to keep an eye on her and perhaps not wake her for a dream feed tonight but just let her sleep til she wakes for a feed. She was so miserable today I think she needs to sleep it off.....Poor little thing.

herb Poor you and dd, you're prob right though to leave her to sleep. I did with ds1 today, he napped for 4 hours which I would never allow, but thought he needed it after last night, dp's in with him now settling him to bed as he was getting a bit frustrated and I think ready for bed.

I'm kind of hoping we're at the tail-end of this thing as it's been about a week now, although I know it could go on for a few weeks. I'll see how it goes and judge on the day, but his behaviour is normal, whatever's going on in that little body of his isn't stopping him climbing up my shelving units or nyting, so he can't be feeling too rough. We shall see though

lbb - judging from what you say and contrary to earlier advice , why don't you see what he feels like on the day. As I said when DS has a virusy thing I find he can be up one day and down the next and it can take a while to get it out of his system. Last week when he was poorly on Tuesday, he seemed better Wed and Thurs and went downhill on Friday night but def up again Sat. IYSWIM. If you're armed with Calpol then that will bring his temp down if he gets ill. You might feel that you need a trip out by later on in the week after the weekend you've had too.

Thanks herb, I'll just see what happens, if his works like your ds's does, he might benefit from a nice day on a good day iyswim. The doc said that young children get things like this all the time, and there's no reason to keep him in every time he gets a bit poorly, although I'd call a temp of 41.8 a bit more than 'a bit poorly'so we'll just wait and see about weds.

The weekend at SIL I think we'll def still do as long as his temp ok thursday morning and he is up for the journey, because like you say, by the end of the week, I may be having another breakdown so the help from BIL&SIL and their dc's will be much needed

Herbgarden and LBB sorry your DC's are giving you cause for concern. Hope they are improving? LBB like Herb says, I'd play it by ear regarding activities later this week - it could be just what the doctor ordered! A friend of mine has suggested to me that I take DD and DS's temperatures when I know they are fit and well (when thy've just woken up is apparently best) to get their "normal" temperature, because for one child 37.5 might be normal, but for another whose temperature is normally say 36, it's quite an increase. I need to get one of those ear thermometers as I just don't trust mine. You have to rub it across the temple for a few seconds.

As predicted, my bubble burst last night and Sam was unsettled from about midnight onwards. DH and I took it in turns with him, but each of us only got a couple of hours' sleep. I think it's this sodding cold he's had for over two weeks now. He doesn't have a temperature or anything, but is so congested he finds it hard to breathe and feed. We've tried everything recommended and I;ve just ordered a humidifier from Amazon in desperation. I'm now wondering if it could be an allergy to something rather than a cold? Say it was lactose, would be be being sick too? It probably is just a cold - I just want to get rid of it! And, if I'm honest I wanted to get rid of him last night . It's an awful thing to say and I know I don't mean it but blimey, it was never this hard with DD. I'm a bit worried I'm not bonding with him properly - might have a chat with the health visitor this week.

DD is still attacking Sam at every opportunity. Yesterday I was holding him at my shoulder and she came up behind me and slapped his face - he isn't safe anywhere. Even in his cot - now she can open doors she sticks her hands into his cot!

Finally tonight, did anyone else separate their stomach muscles? I was told mine did while pushing Sam out (for 2.5 hours - no wonder!) and I can see a real dip down the middle of my stomach from my belly button downwards. Are there any specific exercises that are recommended or do I need physio? to think, I used to pride myself on my washboard stomach....

computer just gone funny and can't see if my last post appeared. Will have to check in tomorrow now. Nighty night...

Washboard Stomach STW ...what is one of those? Can't help you - mine looks like a wobbly jelly and DS asked if there was still a baby in there the other day.

Sorry you're having a rough time still with Sam....I just don't have any advice, only sympathy. My friend who was here today with her DD same age as DS had a horribly colicky daughter and it put her off having another. She is now pregnant so we are hoping it doesn't happen again with no2. She was a saint to get through it and get through it she did, just like you will - as no doubt everyone says, take all the help you can when you can and sleep when you can although with DD in tow it is not easy is it. You can't do anything much for Sam to get rid of the colic and in a way the most important thing is for you to keep your strength up as best you can. It WILL pass - he will not be a colicky 6 month old....really. Just keep reminding yourself.

STW First of all, if Sam had a lactse intolerance, you'd know about it, he'd be getting rid of the food as quick as possible from bith ends iyswim and you wouldn't miss that as we are not talking a normal baby explosion nappy or a bit of possetting, we're talking full on shit and puke everywhere! So I wouldn't worry too much about that.....

That aout taking the temp in the morning to find their individual core temp sounds like a good idea.
I only bought an in-ear thermometer last week because ds1 was getting so distressed with the oral one and couldn't remember if under the armpit if you haveto add a degree on or not. Luckily I managed to find a really cheap in ear one. I was dreading spending £40 on it, but my chemist had smaller ones for £15, bargain.

I don't have a humidifier, I hang wet towels in their rooms (ds1's) when the colds strike to keep the air moist, I'm sure it has the same effect.
I though Luke had a cold for weeks, but what I have just noticed is that he makes all those bunged up noises and sounds all congested when he has wind. He makes all these snotty/blocked nose sounding sniffs and breathes, but the minute he burps it stops, it is most strange......
I'm sure the feelings you are having atm towards Sam are perfectly normal for a 'difficult' baby. It is hard to bond properly with a baby when all you find yourself doing is trying to comfort them and being unsuccessful. In a way, I think I'm lucky I had that with ds1, I didn't properly feel any love for him util he was about 5 months old, so it meant that I was prepared for it all this time, so in a way, is a bit easier. I'm prob only saying that now because they are both in bed asleep, ask me at 4pm tomorrow and it'll be a different story!
Boys apparently suffer alot more with colicky symptoms than girls do too, but it will pass and soon and all of this will one day be a distant memory, you will be telling Sam all about it when in 20-30 years him and his wife bring their baby to your house

Ds1 is still abit violent towards Luke too, he will also tery to swing the moses basket if he gets close.......Luke doesn't even flinch now, he's already used to it! Remember Sam is alot tougher than he looks and it is unlikely that your dd will be able to do him any serious harm.