Sept 08: the thread for when they may start crawling, and there will definitely be some separation anxiety bawling ....

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Welcome ladies

Well, there's no crawling going on in our house, but there's defo some separation anxiety bawling going on .... tears, screaming, the works - oh joy!

Hi Jenpot - I should be able to come to that. How exciting.

thanx for reassurance. I wasn't beating myself up about it too much but just remembered that I was sure that salt wasn't just unhealthy for babies but that it is harmful. But thinking about it sensibly I guess we're talking lots of salt and very small babies.
The stupid thing is I am quite capable of making sauces myself, I'm just lazy (which is why I've ended up doing blw so I only need to cook 1 meal). And I really didn't realise how salty they are. I used a colemans packet the other day for bacon and cheese pasta and was shocked to see that each portion had 35% of salt RDA in it!
And all it was was a cheese sauce with some herbs in it and I make a pretty good cheese sauce myself!

I don't tend to make myself guilty too much so don't worry starlight. You're right, we'd never be able to do anything if we worried about if it was right everytime we wanted to do something/eat something etc.
And you didn't make me feel guilty imo.

DS1 has had a fruitshoot every day this week to encourage him to take his antibiotics and I don't feel guilty about that at all even though I know even saying that word will probably get me struck off of mn

Debi At the risk of making me sound smug, I don't even know what a fruitshoot is.

debi I was wondering how your ds1 was? Does he have tonsilitis?

I seem to have had the PMT day from hell (either that or a scary personality change overnight). I was so ratty I even told off the checkout girl in sainsburys for talking to her mate and ignoring me trying to pay , then I over did it at the gym and I know my legs will be killing me tomorrow. I think DS realised mummy was a little stressed and he tidied all his toys away for the first time. I feel much better now, I just scoffed a big plate of pasta .

DD is trying to crawl, she can lift her bottom up and bring her knees forward but then she just flops, poor little thing.

Ha! I used to make adverts for Fruitshoots specifically for children's channels. Surely I should get struck off MN for past misdemeanors.

I have just finished another job app. I HATE that I'm spending the Bank Holiday weekend doing this and not snuggling up with DS and DH or going out as a family during the day. Urgh.

Right, off to bed. Hoping DS won't wake up till after 6. It's been 5:30 lately, I've been feeding him then making encouraging him to go back to sleep in my bed...rather lovely, but still a bit early.

digital i've been meaning to say that i love the fact you are the first person listed on my fb friends so when I am going through them I have a smile at your photo of ds .

Not sure who else remembers but I was just nosing around MN and had a look at Johnworfs photos, her DD has the best hair ever. She must be coming up to 1!!

Just looked at an old thread to find johnworf so i could look at her pics and found this

my pre-birth plan is:
waterbirth with G&A, no epidural or pethidine
home after 6 hours
sleep in cot in our room for 6 months, then move cot to their own room
BF till 6 months
disposable nappies for first two weeks, then re-usable
no 'routine' for the first month...then perhaps see how DH and I feel, although haven't read any books so might have to make up my own routine

I'll dig this out next year on the postnatal thread and see how much of it I've stuck to.

So Digi how did you do?

I really wish I had known about mumsnet earlier so i could of got some more help. Plus i can't believe how many of you they were

Doncha feel like you've aged since then, and grown up a little? I do.

Happy Easter everyone!

starlight fruitshoots are a very healthy fruit juice with nothing but healthy stuff in them very popular with toddlers, taste disgusting!

And yes I feel like I've aged about 5 years in the past year.

meglet he's ok now, yes he did have tonsillitis, his throat looked so sore and for about 3 days last weekend he could only eat if he'd had calpol about an hour before. The penicilin worked quickly though and he's fine now. I thought that we've have a big battle to get him to keep taking it once he got to the stage where he was fully recovered but had to finish the course of antibiotics but he was actually really good.

meant to add to my post yesterday that the other reason I was feeling a bit bad about the salt thing is that its very hard to get ds2 to drink water. I even tried weak squash yesterday but he didn't want that either. And he seems to be going off breastmilk so having to work hard to get fluids into him.

Debi, it's not really a substitute for water or milk, but fruit and veg with a high water content would help, strawberries, oranges, cucumber etc.

DS woke up at 3:30am...a bit earlier than I was hoping for. But after 20 minutes of wondering whether he was dropping off, oh no there he goes again, oh he's gone quiet, nope not asleep yet etc DH attended to him and he slept till 7am.

Seems we only get a lie-in if he wakes up in the middle of the night. Doesn't seem worth it to me.

Anyway, can't believe I'm whinging this when only a month ago we were having the worst nights ever with DS waking up screaming 2-3 times for anything from 30 minutes to 2 hours. So really I should just be grateful.

Hope you're all having a nice Easter. I've sent my last job app off for the weekend so I can fully enjoy tomorrow with DH and hopefully DM around.

Arghh!! I just did a washing load with only 3 bibs in it . I meant to chuck in a whole load of pink/red stuff but felt so tired and not thinking I just put the liquid in and turned it on with just the bibs.

We went to my dads 65th today. Poor DD was completely freaked by all the people (my dad has a lot of friends) and had a few hollering fits when I wasn't with her. My stepmum, sister and auntie braved it out and helped so I could relax. Funny little thing seemed to like my uncle though and he's a scary ex-policeman, not babysitting material!

And she did a little crawl today, only a couple of shuffles forward but she's on her way!

Right, sterliser is done and I have finished my Beechams cold relief drink- bedtime!

hope everyone enjoyed Easter. I seem to have eaten a whole green + blacks egg without realising, oops.

Debi we eventually had some success getting T to drink by doing the ultimate bad parenting - mixed water and juice (peach juice so it was nice and sweet) half and half, in a bottle - so just about everything you shouldn't do!
Within a few days we had moved down to about 25% juice, and could alternate the bottle and the tommee tippee cup - a few sips from each. Only 10 days later, he's down to only a splash of juice in the tommee tippee, and plain water in the bottle - we still alternate bottle and cup as he's really happier drinking from the bottle and while he's so constipated I don't want to risk him not drinking properly.

Had a lovely easter - T was a pain in the neck in the nights, but was happy and smiley all day while we stayed with friends, so can't really complain. Annoying though, as on Thursday night he went eight hours from being put down before needing a feed, and without any resettling at all. It always takes a few days after going away to get back on track, and then he's got jabs on thursday, but I feel we're moving in the right direction with the sleep.

tried water in a bottle but that didn't work. He has been bit better the last couple of days at having water from the doidy cup and his tommee tippee cup, have just been offering him it all the time. DS1 and DH don't drink much either so maybe they are all just very efficient!

Went out to a big park this morn, dh cycled there with ds1 on the seat on the back and I drove with ds2 and football, rugby ball and tee, model aeroplanes etc and a helmet for ds2. Then I took him for a wee ride round the park which he seemed to enjoy. DS1 is getting a bike for his birthday in 2 weeks and I'm looking forward to going out with them both for cycles.

Went out for lunch too at a new hotel just next door to us, very yummy and very stuffed now!

Had a mixed easter. DD1 has a kidney infection, she had been complaining all week of a pain in her back which came and went. On Friday she rang me in tears to collect her from her friends house. She was shivering and looked like she had flu so we sent her to bed. On Sat she stayed in bed but got hotter so on Sun morning we rung nhs direct who sent us to the gp who sent us to a and e.
They asked loads of q's to rule out menigitis and then asked if she could be pregnant? She is only 12 and it made me feel ancient. After a water sample they found the infection so she is in bed on antibiotics watching dvd's. I am shattered as ds is not sleeping again so it is about 11pm before i am getting Robyn to bed and about midnight before i nod off. She is sleeping till 9 so I suppose when he is at school and bed earlier she can sleep alright.

On the plus side i have eaten a lovely thorntons egg and a lindt one. And i made roast beef for the first time and dp ds and Robyn loved it.

One more week till school hurray

pregnant?

Starlight, are you trying to tell us something??!!!

DS has stopped eating solids. Today and yesterday he had breakfast ok but lunch completely refused and only a fleeting interest in dinner. Am giving lots of bfeeds but worry he'll sleep really badly tonight. He's only had two naps today normally has three. Thinking it's either teething or he's going through some sort of developmental phase. Doesn't seem to have learned anything new recently so perhaps it's the former.

Period is finally on it's way out. But still feel wiped out. Thought about iron supplements but don't they clog you up? Can't be making that situation any worse as I already have it in mind to see the gp about embarassing bottom probs.

Feeling like a bit of a crap mum lately. Spend my spare time job hunting rather than planning interesting things to do with ds. DH has done all the laundry this week as I can't seem to get it together to sort that out. The last two days seemed to have regressed in both weaning and sleeping. On top of all that my blasted DSis took my Easter egg by mistake so havent even had that to cheer me up. Hoping it gets better this week.

Sorry I know some of you are going through a lot more that is much more worthy of our sympathy but I just felt like a moan.

LOL no. It was in response to the previous post by Debs.

You can't beat a good moan to get it out of your system!

I thought teeth when you mentioned the lack of food and napping.

Take Spatone or Floradix for an iron supplement. They aren't synthetic so they shouldn't bung you up. You can get Floradix in tablet form as well which is a lot easier to take.

Doah - of course

DG I can empathise, really I can.

Toby seems to be regressing too Naps are a nightmare, he is waking every hour some nights, although he usually settles again and some days I feel worse than when he was a newborn! I think he may be teething again. Its exhasting. Add to that ds1 who is a very sweet but very deamanding child and I am wiped out. I love him dearly, but he seems more demanding and needy than ever and at nearly 6 I had hoped he would be getting a bit more independant. also having to do a lot of homework/extra work with him at the mo because he is quite behind with his reading and writing - he is being referred to speech therapy next term. sigh.

Dh is complaining we never "do it" anymore. Hah! I havent even blown my nose since thursday mate, so orgasms are very low down on my list!

Am feeling low generally which doesnt help...I love my dc but some days are a real struggle

DG I use Spatone as its doesnt make you constipated like iron tablets do x

DG I went to see GP about bottom ishoos, and (TMI) after a brief and painless examination she diagnosed a pile and gave me some suppositories (ugh) and cream and I am virtually cured - 6 weeks later I am in virtually no discomfort. God, being a mother is soooo glamorous.

The good thing about having such a monumentally crap sleeper is that bad nights pass me by, as they aren't much of a change from the good ones! A superbly good night is one with less than 2-3 wakings, a normal one is 3-5 and a bad one can mean being up hourly or more. Poor T, he's so incredibly easy during the day (touch wood) that I feel I can't really complain about his rubbish nights - suppose there has to be some down side!

DP and I still haven't resumed marital relations. I've only really been completely pain free following my stitches for about a month, and TBH in the evening I just want to chill out for a bit, then maximise sleep time! Really need to crack on and Just Do It, as I definitely find it's one of those things that the more you do, the more you want to, and the less you do, the less it appeals.