November 2008: WE Are Not Interested iN eatinG yet!

[ChocOrange05]

Here we go ladies, thanks for giving me the honour of starting us off again!

sausage how old is T? In the GF routines she says babies over 3 months don't need an afternoon nap (i.e they can go from 2pm - 7pm without sleep) however I find M is tired after 2 hours so he still has a 20-30 min nap between 4 and 5. Perhaps T was overtired if she didn't sleep in the afternoon? Just a thought - GF is great for me but I do have to flex it around M sometimes.

choc, i've just been wondering about GF's amazing 3 month olds! my M can't make it 5 hours without a nap. maybe 3 or 4 in the afternoon but definitely not 5.

It's quiet on here today

Sausage I agree with Choc that 2-7 is too long for a baby to be awake. I basically work on the 90 min - 2 hour rule - which is basically that babies of this age can only stay awake for that long between sleeps - but I do try and make sure that Sam doesn't sleep any later than about 5.30 to ensure he is ok for bed at 7.15.

Just tried the full baby massage on Sam - he started crying after doing just 1 leg and then peed all over the rug

Vbab sorry you are feeling so down at the moment. You are not a bad mum at all - I am beginning to realise that 2 year olds are sent to try us DS1 is exactly the same - can be loving and happy one minute, naughty the next and then whinging the next - his moods are a complete mystery to me most of the time!

hi chocorange and londonboots I think you might be right about her being over-tired. Today I will let her have a mid fternnoon nap if it looks like she needs it.

How do you two manage to get on with generakl life stuff when you have three hours in th emiddle of the day bound to home because of feed and naps and other schedule? I feel a little frustrated already (need to go supermrket and baby club but cant) and I am only on day 2! Can you make yours work away from home?

Forgot to add that despite all the staying up she still woke at 3.15am on the button however took a little water from a bottle instead of boob. (Thought I was going to get away with it but then she ramped up and needed boob for comfort but only took a little before going to sleep again). Am a little about giving water, as I read a very impassioned debate on here once about how it was frowned on, but on other hand, I don't see why not quench her thirst (providing she isn't actually hungry, and I am pretty sure she wasn't - she was just after comforting). What do you esteemed ladies think?

ceebee lol at sam peeing on the carpet! (had not realised what a bonus it can be to have a little girl without a "hose"!)

oh sorry chocorange, T is 14 weeks and about 13lbs

sausage the more experienced GF-[lite]-ers will be able to suggest how to do this but I am not strict at all with timings during the day as I find there are too many external factors which make the timings hard (like baby yoga class and lunch dates and shopping...) hence why sometimes M will go 3 or 4 hours in the afternoon as his lunch nap has been pushed later... not a proper GF-er at all! I do take note of total number of hours of sleep etc GF recommends for each age and the bedtime routine has been brilliant for us from early on, but very flexible on other parts. good luck. x

sausage like londonboots says you just have to flex GF to suit you - once you have been doing it for a couple of weeks you can see how T fits in with the routine and work around that. It might be worth taking some time to stick to it for a couple of weeks so you then know how to work it to suit yours and T's needs??

What I do is always have M's morning and afternoon naps in the pram - it means I can get the shopping done. The only one he has in his cot is the lunchtime nap and I use that opportunity to do washing/cooking/cleaning etc and eat lunch (oh, and MN ). As for going out, we generally either do something in the morning and as most things start at 10/10.30 I just walk him there and feed him when we get there. I aim to be home for 11.30 so I can do the second half of his feed just before his nap. Some days if I have lots to do or am out for lunch I just do the 2 hour lunchtime nap in his pram. As for the afternoon I just arrange to meet friends at 2/2.30 and usually leave by 4.30 so M can have another nap on the way home. So far the only thing I have found I "can't" do are any classes (i.e. where M has to be awake) over the lunchtime period as it throws the day out. I am breastfeeding during the day and if its time for a feed I have no probs doing it in public so thats why I think we can do lots and are not housebound.

I would def say she'll need an afternoon nap - M is 17 weeks and still having it.

As for the water question - if she takes it then I don't see a problem. Its true breastfed babies don't need extra milk but if she really wants milk she will let you know. A little bit of water is certainly not going to hurt her - maybe make her poo's a bit runny!

Hope this helps!

doh - extra water

WOOOOOOO - I think I have found one of those highchairs - finally!! One shop has a couple in stock!! YAY

Hi just a quickie cos going out in a mo thinking about using cloth nappies has anyone got any recommendations? Noticed choco was talking about them last night, any help would be greatly appreciated

ellielou, try the nappies thread here - they know lots. Otherwise you can wait for Daisy to get back as she has tried lots I think?? I can let you know how mine are when I have used them.

Thanks choco those minkys look georgeous had a wee look, has anyone heard how daisy is?

Hope Lacks is OK?

obs thanks for your kind words. Feeling much better now. Think you're right - the sleep deprivation etc just all caught up on me.
Sausage my 16-week old definitely needs the afternoon nap! We always walk the dog between 4-5pm for half an hour so she has one. It keeps her going til bath/bedtime!

P.S. DH and I went out last night for dinner ON OUR OWN! My good friend babysat, and little Plum didn't make a squeak. Slept til 4:30am so despite late night, had decent sleep. Had a lovely meal - scallops, pollock with black-beans, guacomole and sour cream, and then some dark choc concoction. Was so exciting going out!!

Anyway - hope everyone is well apart from poor hana and her lady bits. Hope you and your DH are OK.

Hello Mr Daisy here-Daisy has had her op and is feeling better- or at least I think that was the general gist as the pain killers kept making her eyeballs roll into the back of her head and repeat the last sentence over and over.
No doubt she will give you more detial tomorrow

Mr D

Helloo ladies
Hope Daisy is ok.

Someone was aking about tryas for a tripp trapp highchair- I saw one on ebay the other day- click clack tray I think it was called.

No help on GF as don't follow it. Set naps don't happen here til near toddlerhood, though I think my babies have had regular nap times, they just go to sleep wherever they are and nap.

Need to get my hair cut. It is EVERYWHERE. I have very thick hair at the best of times, but this is ridiculous!!!!

MonkeyM glad you had a lovely eveing

And yay vbab on sleep.

RE your DS-Don't know if this is just going t sound daft, but an excellent UP phrase is "attribute to children the best possible motive given the facts". I have found it very useful when coming to terms with some of the less desirable things my 2 and 3 year olds have done sometimes!

ceebee lol at Sam!

ooh x-posts there. SO glad to hear that, MR D- send her our love, please

Very glad to hear from Mr D that lacks is doing ok, well apart from the rolling eyes bit. Have been thinking about her during the day today, which is a bit weird when you can't visualize someone IYSWIM?

M has 2nd lot of jabs tomorrow, not looking forward to it after the complete screaming fit he had after the last ones. He certainly wasn't a "brave boy" last time!! Mind you, he had been sitting on my lap grinning manically at the two nurses before they stabbed him. Think he felt a betrayed.

lol Fudge that's exactly how they look- imi made a little scream then looked really miffed at the nurse- as if to say 'we were having a perfectly nice time, why did you have to do that?'
I have to say I really feel for those who have to go through procedures/jabs regularly. My DS hated having his preschool booster.

Someone was asking about giving water to bfed baby- was it sausage, just wanted to say, each to their own of course, but personally I don't, as they don't need it.

I wouldn't consider the notion of bfeeding for comfort as a negative, either. It is one of the great pluses of bfeeding and does no harm at all. If you think she's just comfort sucking, maybe a dummy would be better than water? I don't know as I've never used dummies- couldn't persuade DD1 that it would be better for her teeth long term than her thumb!

Hi all. Just wanted to say am going 'offline' for a bit, so includes MN. Had a very hard few days, need to make a few changes, so gonna see how it goes!

Daisy, just came on to see how you were doing too. Glad op was ok, and I hope you feel better soon and can eat a nice big dish of macaroni cheese with bacon .

Will miss you all. Barbs, I will keep text going so we can arrange to meet week after next.

Tada for now. Back laters.

Morning All,

Glad Daisy is OK after the Op.

Merry hope you get your issues sorted and having time away helps.

Hana hope you get things sorted too, You too sausage Monkey glad you had a nice meal out

Choco glad you got your highchair

Whoever was asking about the very cheap Ikea highchair I have it for DS1 and it is great, goes in the car no problem as the legs come off and he loves it. Pinky is right though he sometimes seems like he needs somewhere to put his feet! bargain at £12 though.
I feel I need a new one for Jay as DS1 still uses it often and it isn't overly suppotive.

Update from me DH has been gone for 2.5 weeks now and I still don't miss him I still feel like I am in Limbo, Doc has referred me to a counsellor and I am seeing a Doula today for chat she is a friend of SIL so will see how that goes.

Hope everyone is well and happy

Morning.
Hope Daisy is o.k. good to see post from her dh.
Hope MerryM has a break and gets sorted. We can all imagine and sympathise, how hard it is for her.
Love to LadyBuzz. Think 'limbo' is to be expected.

Am now car-less
Off to get pushchair out for school run.

merry we will miss you but hope you get things sorted.x

LB hope the counselling helps.

Merry we will miss you Hope you come back soon having got everything resolved.

LB I think you not missing your DH after 2.5 weeks is probably telling you something.

Thanks to MrD for updating us - hopefully Daisy will be fighting fit from now on!!

Am knackered today - Sam woke up at 3ish but seemed to go straight back to sleep once I had put his dummy in but was really restless for the rest of the night - meaning I ended up crawling to the bottom of the bed countless times to put his dummy back in. I ended up moving the pillows down that end and sleeping the other way round. I don't think he was hungry as he was just whimpering rather than crying so I didn't feed him (am I mean??) It is so unlike him though - normally he doesn't need his dummy at all at night. Anyway, of course this was the night that DS1 slept until I woke him at 7, rather than coming into our bed at 6 and messing around, meaning, if Sam had been his usual self, we would all have got a good night's sleep....grrrr!