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daisydora · 06/03/2009 17:15

Thread started - hope i've done it right!!

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kmp1 · 08/03/2009 10:17

i'm looking for one of those really mini travel cots - someone was it sybil or Turnip? said they had one and I was wondering if it was this travel cot? or if not which one is it and are you happy with it?
B has settled down a lot now but now H is being a royal pia! Helps out... but has to be asked or prompted to do anything just wish he could show some initiative and perhaps get up in the morning to change a nappy before I do while he "pretends" he was "just getting up" and then drifts back to sleep

kayzr · 08/03/2009 10:20

kmp My MIL had this when she was fostering. She said it was brilliant. Hope H starts to help out on his own accord soon.

CatDean · 08/03/2009 10:29

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rosmerta · 08/03/2009 10:46

Cat, personally I think they still need a feed at this age & if T is having a growth spurt giving him water could upset him more. What about splitting his feed into 2? Ds2 has a 50z bottle at 11pm & 3am, then will wake up at 7 & have his next feed. During the day he has 6ozs so he has more during the day than at night.

CatDean · 08/03/2009 11:18

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Verso · 08/03/2009 13:12

V quick "hello" to say I've found the new thread and am still surviving . Things much better since DH started doing the 10pm feed so I can get some hours of sleep before the 2am one (1.30am this morning ).

Back another time!

jumpjockey · 08/03/2009 13:28

Morning all. Very glad to see that smiley face Verso [big hug] and that you're getting the help you need.

The sleep thing - dd is getting pretty daft of late. Bed at 8, she's happily asleep for a few hours, then it's pretty much every hour and a half from midnight until up time. I'm just bunging her on the boob and falling asleep myself which is a bad thing, really must start sitting up and giving her a proper feed so she sleeps longer, but I'm petrified she'll wake up properly and not want to go back to sleep. And she's teething (pink cheeks, dribbly, gums her hands all day!) so she wakes up from that rather than specifically hungry, but gets cross and needs comforting back to sleep so I whop out the old favourite. Booo.

Kayz - really pleased you enjoyed Crufts surely re Eurostar the adult bit just means over 18? Would it be cheaper to pay one adult fare and get kids free rather than a youth fare and pay for kids? I doubt they could force you to pay a youth fare if you wanted to pay adult. [secretly very that kayz is such a whippersnapper!)

SuperCat re swimsuits, Bump to 3 have various different ones that all look sooo cute si they may be worth a look?

Nolda poor dd, so glad it was nothing serious. Lots of hugs and ice cream for her til she's better!

Hello babymakes4, welcome to the mayhem funhouse

rosmerta · 08/03/2009 13:38

cat ds2 has 6 bottles in 24hrs (3am, 7am, 11am, 3pm, 7pm, 11pm). But this has always been his schedule since moving from 3hr feeds. Like you said, having different formula may have thrown him a bit. I'd love to be able to move ds2's 11pm feed to 12 & then hopefully he'd go till 7 but so far he wakes up everytime dh doesn't feed him!

verso glad to see you & that dh is helping out, long may it continue

CatDean · 08/03/2009 16:31

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jumpjockey · 08/03/2009 16:57

SuperCat good idea! I keep offering her solid plastic toys to chew but she's not got the hang of holding onto things yet - apart from the hems of her skirt! Gave her the homeopathic camomile stuff that veggie recommended, or at least it's some Nelsons teething powder with camomile in it, so hopefully that will help. She's like a dripping tap, onto her third vest of the day

Anyone on the thread use Avent bottles? Now that DD has successfully been turned to the breastflow ones, I've got a couple of the 9oz size that are unlikely to get used, can post them to anyone who'd make good use. Also someone mentioned Nuk, I've got a 5oz one of those as well with the wonky teat if you'd like it? Only used twice, both times a dismal failure

We've had a miracle today on the nap front after the night of doom. Three times today we've put her down in the cot for a nap, she's grizzled for a few minutes, and then actually gone to sleep! This is pretty amazing. Only slept for an hour each time, mind you, but that's much better than me having to walk around in the chucking rain for ages... Maybe she's finally getting the hang of it! Still no sense of routine, alas, it's just a case of does she look tired? Is she making hungry gestures? etc. But hey, we'll get there in the end

daisydora · 08/03/2009 17:21

jump glad its not just me who is looking for a 'routine' but can't find one anywhere!!!!

DS also managed a sleep for an hour in his cot this afternoon, which is very unlike him. But at night he's becoming a right PITA little monkey! He feeds about 7ish and falls asleep for all of 10 mins and then he's awake till about 10, where the only way we can get him to sleep is to rock him.

I feel like I have infected sinuses after my cold. I can't eat as it hurts my face too much and I feel very feverish I was going to go to the Emergency GP for some AB's but felt like I was wasting their time, will go to GP tomorrow if no better.

verso good to see you sounding more positive and good to hear your DH is helping out more.

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kayzr · 08/03/2009 20:29

Jump I must say I feel a lot older than 22.

Verso I'm glad you are feeling a bit better. I hope your DH continues to help.

DS2 isn't in a routine at all really. Then again DS1 isn't either, just a bedtime one where we have dinner by 6 and then he is in bed by 7:30.

I'm going back to GP about my knee, it is still really painful and I am in agony this evening.

traceface · 08/03/2009 20:32

For those of us whose babies our hungry little night-feeders, I think that all our LOs are actually still very young and I really wouldn't expect them to be sleeping through at this stage - just think, their tummies are only the size of their fist!

daisy - sinusitis is horrid - get yourself to the GP - you're not wasting their time

jj/cat I think we're teething here too...same thing - dribbling, red cheeks, chewing fists all the time... I guess this will be going on for a while!

Can I ask for opinions again?

I have a friend - she's in her late 20s and is single. She desperately wants a man and babies and has always adored babies and children. She has spent loads of time with my dd1 and they adore each other. This friend is very insecure and has low self esteem, and is always worried that people don't like her. She has recently started saying that my dds hate her, based on the fact that Phoebe cries when she holds her, and Lucy has not been as full on with her as she was. For example, when I was putting Lu to bed the other night I asked who she wanted to read her story and she said 'mummy', whereas she usually says my friend. Also she's going abroad for 6 months soon and was explaining to Lucy yesterday that she wouldn't see her for 6 months. Lucy didn't really react, just got up and pretended to be a bird (!) and my friend took this to mean that Lu hates her and won't miss her at all. At first I just told her not to be daft and that Phoebe is just a baby and cries lots, and that Lu loves her to bits,and Lu clearly has no idea what 6 months means as she can't even get her head round weeks and weekends yet (we talk about everything in terms of how many sleeps until whatever...) but she has been saying this for weeks now and it's starting to really annoy me. Not only is it boring (I'm a bit sick of her constant 'everyone hates me') but also I find it offensive that she is putting a characteristic on my children which isn't there. I don't know if that makes any sense, but to have someone say that Lucy 'hates' them seems very unfair to me. If Lucy came home from school saying she hated someone I would be very unhappy with her - I've always objected to the word hate, as it is very strong, so for her to imply that Lu is so cruel as to hate someone is upsetting to me. My daughter is kind and loving, not hateful. I don't know whether I should tell her how I feel or just let it be, as she is obviously on a real downer on herself and I don't want to make it worse. if I tell her she'll think I hate her! What do you think I should do?

traceface · 08/03/2009 20:33

kayz sorry cross post there. Really sorry about your knee. Hope GP can help - will you get your sore face looked at while you're there?

kayzr · 08/03/2009 20:46

Trace I will get my face looked at too. I have been covering it with sudocrem.

I'm not sure what to do with regards to your friend. It does seem very strange, especially with Phoebe as she can't help crying. I mean DS2 must loathe us if you go on how much he cries. Also I do think Lucy is a bit young to also understand how to hate someone. I do feel a bit sorry for your friend too as she is obviously quite down, but I do think she is being a bit dramatic. Maybe she'll meet a lovely man while abroad.

kmp1 · 08/03/2009 21:26

JJ/Cat teething? really? It crossed my mind that B was doing that perhaps, as he had all the signs but I just thought way too young.... I put it down to him snacking - I was doing the exact same thing - I was so tired so dragging him into bed with me part way through the night and he was just waking and snacking randomly then, so decided to over induldge him for his (potentially) last feed, and it worked (along with a dummy and the miracle blanket!) Anyway, he has slept from about 10-1030 until 6 or sometimes 7 ever since about 8-10 weeks! Got messed up after the international travel, but back on trqack now fingers crossed. So he usually has an expressed bottle about 10 pm then dummey,miracle blanket, oh and whoever mentioned the baby channel on sky - THANK you!! the sweet dreams thing they have on until 5 am has worked wonders too.
But anyway, if he is ever given the chance he will snack - i'm dreading the teething part... but if your LO's are, then at least it'll be out of the way early?
Kayz glad you enjoyed Crufts - I'd love to go sometime myself... Thanks for the tip on travel cots - I had been looking at that one too, but just notices this other one that says up to 9 months rather than the Samsonite one which says 6 months - althougb I like the look of the Samsonite one better.... Loads more I was going to say, but can't remember - just back from the pub for dinner.... until tomorrow...

jumpjockey · 08/03/2009 23:09

kmp - very encouraging to hear the sleeping through can be done! We don't do the dream feed just because whenever I tried, it woke dd up but have been super-charging her between about 6 and 8.

I didn;t think of teething, it was the nurse at her second lot of jabs who took one look at the full-fist-in-gob and said Aha....!

Trace not sure about your friend, like you suggested it does sound as if she's pretty down and just in the mood to see everything badly. Can't help really but you know that your babies are both very loving and kind, don't let her get you down as well about their reactions.

LadyThompson · 08/03/2009 23:11

Hello kids

Just watching Jordan on the box. I must admit I have always rather liked her. I like a gutsy girl.

ANYWAY, back from a tiring, freezing but very lovely weekend in Shropshire. Lots of pottering round antiquey type shops in Ludlow and Stretton and sadly not a single walk on the hills (it was just too wet today and it even started to snow). We had a two year old boy, a three year old girl, a four year old girl and a ten year old boy in our group and though they were all lovely, were quite demanding. (The two lads were the least trouble actually!) DP was starting to get very irritated with the three year old by the end of it all, so I worry about when DD gets to that age! I think little kids are far harder work than babies, really I do. How some of you combine the two I can never imagine.

DD was traumatised by my having to change her on the lid of a loo in the pub. Her little head touched the cistern which was covered in condensation and she screamed blue murder. She was covered in cack and it was like modelling clay as she had been a bit bunged up. We had to leave the pub as she was screaming so much. Nothing like that has ever happened before. And every time I put her on her back after that, she went ape, as if she remembered the pub fiasco. But she is fine today, I am glad to say, back to her lovely sunny self.

JJ/SuperCat (did you come off the pills in the end?)/KMP - I do think DD is teething - the gallons of dribble, the fist in mouth. But they can be like this for months before any little teeth appear, they are just travelling down the gums...

Trace - your friend - it sounds extremely irritating, but if you can, let it wash over you. When someone is that insecure, it's like an illness. They have no perspective, they're divorced from reality. You could try having a word, being kind but firm about it, but I doubt it will sink in. Perhaps 6 months away will be good for her. Insecurity is a curse. I wish DD to be kind and confident. Those two attributes alone will save you. Doesn't matter about brains or any of the other similar things that people seem to long for.

Arti/JJ/Turnip - my heart aches for you, not having your Mums. My Mum is my world and I owe her absolutely everything. But when she isn't there any more, well...I know her love will last for ever and ever.

Arti and Daisy - hope you are both feeling better. Arti, that friend sounds like a selfish pain in the tush. People get so defensive about the whole kids thing, don't they? I used to think I didn't want kids, I thought that for a long time, but I always made a huge effort with my mates' kids. Even if kids don't thrill you, you do it for your mates, or at least, you ought to.

Verso, I am so glad things are perking up slightly,

Hatty, great to hear from you! And you, Kim, I hope Judah didn't get a cold. DD has been a little snot monkey recently and it's such a shame when they are snuffling and snorting.

Kayz - you are lucky to be a youth and all of us decrepit old bags are exceedingly envious!

Nolda, that sounds awful about your DD's mouth! So glad it wasn't as bad as you'd feared.

Katie, that sounds terribly awkward about the kitchen. Oh dear.... I hope your BiL bucks his ideas up. Are you far from Leominster? We drove near there tonight on the way back from Shrop. My DP doesn't always like to discuss things, too - drives me nuts.

Babymakes4 - do feel you can chip in if you want to!

I know I have missed people but I am so very tired. I am off to look at holiday brochures in bed. I find that brochures or catalogues help to clear my mind - sometimes a novel or a newspaper is just too stimulating. Night night all, hope you all have serene ones.

daisydora · 09/03/2009 08:33

trace I totally understand why your friend is so annoying to you at the mo. I have a friend (just turned 40), she's single, no kids and desperately wants a family but can really only ever go on about how bad things are for her, she's all alone blah blah... We did fall out while I was pregnant as she accused me of being glad that yet again she had been 'dumped' by her bf(yes she uses that term - she's like a teenager totally self centered)

Anyway trace if she starts spouting all that nonsense about Lucy hating her again I would be totally honest with her and say that 'hate' isn't a concept that she understands therefore she certainly isn't feeling it towards her! Explain to her that children are very fickle what they adore one week they don't want to know the next week. Your friend is clearly very down on herself at the moment and thats why she's coming out with this rubbish. Maybe her trip away will help her build up some self esteem and start to help her feel more positive.

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EffiePerine · 09/03/2009 08:42

Trace: I would be firm and calm, explain (kindly) that she is wrong blah blah blah. I'd also consider stepping back a wee bit, friends like that can be very draining. Supporting people who are insecure is obv a good thing to do, but if it goes on for a long time you can fall into a pattern of always being the one giving and never getting anything back, and that kind of relationship isn't good for either of you. That said, she is young and may grow out of it, esp if she has to rely on herself for 6 months!

Had a successful shopping trip ysterday, found a baby gym in Mothercare for 15 quid and some nice baby clothes in Adams (buy one get one half price on all new stuff)

better go DS1 needs a change...

CatDean · 09/03/2009 09:35

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JollyBear · 09/03/2009 11:30

Morning all,

I feel like I'm on a race against time to finish this post before DD wakes up... here I go!

Katie Sorry you suffered with the return of the damned menses too. I'm crossing my fingers I get lighter less painful ones in the future.

cat Re middle of the night FF - we fill the sterilised bottles with boiling water which obviously cools to room temp. We then take the bottles, little containers with the formula measured out and a thermos upstairs. When madam wants to dine we add enough of the flask water to the room temp water to get it to a nice temp and then tip out the excess to the correct marker. I hope that made sense! It means DD is never waiting around more than a few minutes for a bottle.

hatty Hello! Glad to hear that DD3 is fitting well into your family.

BM4 Glad to hear that you have felt reassured by reading our ramblings.

Nolda I fell and cut that little connecting bit of mouth tissue when I was a girl. My mum collected me from nursery and the first thing she saw was my bloodstained dress hanging up to dry! Poor woman was frightened to death.

JJ and others with teething LOs. I'm glad to hear others are having the same thing. I told MIL I thought DD was showing signs of teething (one red cheek, dribbling, chewing everything and anything) and she dismissed it.

trace I agree with the advice given already. Your friend needs to understand that children are not capable of such thoughts.

LadyT Glad to hear you had a good weekend. We went on a short walk at my mums and it started hailing! You did the right thing staying off the hills.

Wow and DD hasn't woken up yet, hurrah. We had a lovely weekend seeing some friends and then my parents yesterday. It is lovely to see DD be all giggly and happy with other people.

kayzr · 09/03/2009 11:42

I must say I am loving the sound of taking DS2's bottle upstairs with us and doing it up there. It would be so much easier. I will try it tonight.

traceface · 09/03/2009 13:07

hello!

I just got back from the under 1s group - it was fab! It's in a posh new children's centre (sure start) and I had a really good time. There were about 8 mums with ickle ones there and they were really chatty and kind, and there was a children's worker doing clay handprints for all the babies, and a HV just sat there for us to chat to, a table of drinks and biscuits and apples, loads of gorgeous toys, scales and measuring mat...and the whole thing is free of charge! Will definitely be going back next week.

Cat - for your stats...dd1 was 10 weeks early and slept through at 8 months, dd2 was 2 days early and is showing no signs of sleeping through yet...!

Off for our 2nd jabs in an hour

must go and deal with poo number 4 of the day

back later
xxx

kayzr · 09/03/2009 13:09

Cat DS1 was 2 days late and slept through from 8 weeks. DS2 was born on his due date and at 12 weeks is still not sleeping through.