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dinkystinky · 05/03/2009 21:14

So here we all are, complete with babies and gro-bags under our eyes

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PinkTulips · 27/03/2009 16:22

KT, could be worse, i'm the same age as you and have been pregnant or nursing constantly since i was 20. last time i was out drinking with friends i only had one child!

KT1983 · 27/03/2009 17:00

Thats no good PT - You need to go & get drunk I think im going to aim for BH weekend, although DP doesnt know it yet!

PinkTulips · 27/03/2009 17:14

ahh, when they're teenagers i can return to my lush ways

Beantin · 27/03/2009 17:22

DS started producing green sticky poos instead of usual mustard - what am i eating to cause this or is it him? something to worrry about?

PinkTulips · 27/03/2009 17:27

they sometimes do that when they have a bit of a bug or a cold beantin

thehouseofmirth · 27/03/2009 17:53

Green poo can also be a sign of too much foremilk.

SomeMightSay · 27/03/2009 18:06

Beantin After our 1st, we had sex at about the 2 week mark, we had a few false starts and ended up just wriggling around because we'd get to 'that' point and I'd chicken out because I was still quite swollen, but when we did do it, it was ok........it was uncomfortable as I was still quite sore but it got easier. Just do it when you are ready and if it gets too much just stop, am sure your OH will understand
I would suggest though maybe the use of KY jelly or make sure he really gets you going first iykwim, you don't want anything to be too dry.
I'm really bad at remembering to do the pelvic floor exercises so imagine it's like swinging a sausage in space
dinky when they did Lukck's heal prick the cmw told me that if there were any problems the hv would contact me so I haven't even asked about it.
Beantin I always found that green poo was connected to winding issues with my ds, but I am not medically trained so if it's something you are worried about, get it checked. Are you eating foods with garlic? That may have an effect, you should see ds1's nappies after he's had kievs

Were at play centre today and it was the staff there that reported that mum I told you about. The conversation started because a member of the staff asked how I was getting on with the 2 of them and if everything was settling down so I was telling her I'm still trying to get ds1 out of the violent stage but that he'd also started the screaming and how it's upset me a bit because it reminds me of that boy and she asked what I merant so I told her she knew what I meant, she took me into the meeting room after session and I told her the mum had told me the situ last week and that I was glad alarm bells weren't ringing just for me.

I need you to tell me IANBU on this one. I am not overly precious about my ds's, I am not one that doesn't like other people touching them or anything, I actually think it's quite important that they get used to being handled by others, but what I would expect is that if someone wanted to pick up my baby, they ask first. AIBU?
The person I am talking about is the above mum. Last week, we were all outside and Luck was asleep inside in the pram, she went in for the bathroom and when she came out, she brought Luke with her saying he was awake and crying. Now, I was just outside the door (had been checking on him every now and then), so really what I would have done was go back outside and say "Your baby's crying" and maybe ask if I could get him. I would not pick someone else's new born baby up and bring him outside into the bright sunshine. What bothers me is that she was in there touching my child without my permission or knowledge and it makes me very uncomfortable. Also today, Luke was on the other side of the room in a bouncy chair and I was with ds doing some decorations for easter, Luke whinged, that pre-cry noise and she was off her seat which was on the next table to me and pretty much ran across the room to comfort my baby. She was close to picking him up when I yelled across the room to leave him and I'd get him in a min. It's not like she was sittng next to him, she was on other side of room ffs. Then she sat next to him stroking his head whilst I finished my convo. When I had his bottle ready I sat down next to him to get him out of chair and she undid the straps and went to pick him up again. Now, to me, this is not normal behaviour. I have never picked up someone elses baby wothout asking forst, the only times would be if baby was choking or in some sort of danger, then instincts take over. Dp asked if I would be this wound up if this was done by someone else and I don't know really. m I annoyed because what may or may not be happening to her ds? Would I react the same of everyone? She does strike me as odd but maybe I'd be more relaxed of a 'normal' person? It's not on though is it?

SomeMightSay · 27/03/2009 18:07

Calico Just saw on FB that all went ok with Lily's scan. Good news. x

SomeMightSay · 27/03/2009 18:10

Hahahahha, just re-read my post and I have stated at the start that I am not being unreasonable when I meant to say AIBU what a nutter! hahahaha really need to start proof reading

SomeMightSay · 27/03/2009 18:22

Am I crazy? Would any of you go to playgroup, speak to a mum a few time there and then just start picking up her newborn baby without asking? It's not like we're friends, but I also expect friends to ask too I think. Never really thought about it mind because everyone has always asked first, even my mum doesn't pick up the baby without asking and she's the grandma (FWIW, I do tell my mum she doesn't have to ask, but she feels more comfortable doing it this way or else she said she'd feel like an interferring old battle-axe , she is strange )

Beantin · 27/03/2009 18:40

If I was related to the baby, it was the baby of a really close friend and I had previously handled it or looked in obvious distress and the mother was otherwise disposed, but otherwise nope.

Beantin · 27/03/2009 18:49

Hmm....he has just done another poo - third today Not sure what colour as yet as just had to run to bathroom in middle of dinner as thought was gonna throw up. Didn't happen quite and feel bette since opened the window. Thought didn't feel great all day but put it down to tiredness. Please keep all your fingers and toes crossed that we don't have a tummy bug arrived here

PinkTulips · 27/03/2009 18:59

sms, i pick up other peoples babies and they pick up mine at our toddler group and it's perfectly normal. i'd rather my baby was being cuddled by someone than left to cry if i'm not close at hand. that said her carry on does seem a bit ott tbh.

MarkStretch · 27/03/2009 19:24

I am 30 and I got drunk last night.

I have felt rough all day and I want to go to bed.

MrsY · 27/03/2009 19:28

SMS I would only pick up a family member or close friend's baby without asking - even then I'd probably check most times...

KT I know what you mean about feeling older than your age, but then I've never been a big one for wild nights out - I think I might have fallen asleep and missed about 10 years somewhere!!!

Dinky we had 6 week check today and I totally forgot to ask will have to call the CMW's myself. On the subject of the 6 week check, the doc didn't do the PND questionnaire, despite us talking about whats going on for us as a couple, and specifically about how I'm feeling. Do they do it as a general rule?

LittleMissNorty · 27/03/2009 19:34

Usually - round here anyway - its the HV that does the PND check - and that has the heel prick results.

SomeMightSay · 27/03/2009 20:00

Thanx for replies ladies. PT That's what I'm thinking, would it have bothered me if it was someone else?
MrsY That's what I was saying to dp, only family member or very close friend, but then I've been at my best friends house and called o her in the kitchen if I could pick up her baby.
But, where I think it's ok to pick up someone elses baby if the mum is in the bathroom or something, I don't think it's ok to dash across the room for a grizzle (not a cry) when that baby's mum is in the same room and is perfectly capable of looking after her children.
I don't want to make a huge deal out of it there and don't want to single her out as the only person who cannot touch my children.....it just made me uncomfortable but I really think I would have felt the same way even if there wasn't a ? over her ds, you know how some people just leave you with a 'feeling'?

MrsY I think hv usually does them, did with me last time, haven't seen one yet this time. What did the gp say when you spoke about everything? Does he want you to go back for a check up in a week or so to see if any improvement? Did he give you any info on support groups and sessions?

SomeMightSay · 27/03/2009 20:03

Plus, the reason she knows it was the staff at the centre that contacted SS, is because SS told her, so she knows it for definite but yet she is still going to group. Isn't that a bit
Gonna stop going on about it now.

MrsY · 27/03/2009 20:39

SMS - He just said it was usual hormone/sleep deprivation stuff. Didn't say anything much, but John wants us to try Relate...

Long question:

M has bad colic and also, I think, reflux. She is quite sick after feeds, and has the acidic milk smell. She is on Aptemil Easy Digest with Dentanox. We use the Tommee Tippee Anti-colic Plus bottles (with medium flow teat due to thicker formula). GP has prescribed her Gavison for the reflux, and pharmacist said to lay of Dentanox. We've tried it today, but with the Gaviscon, her formula is now sooo thick she can't even get it easily with the 'x' teats. I did ask about him prescribing the lactose free Cow and Gate, but he said better to change what you add to the milk than change the milk itself.

Just now it has taken her an hour to drink 2oz.

Do we:

switch to normal Aptemil with the Gaviscon?

switch to normal Aptemil with coleaf, in case the sickness is due to the colic?

stick with Easy Digest and Dentanox and scotch the Gaviscon?

give her the Gaviscon with just a bit of milk and the rest of the milk after?

push GP to prescribe lactose free formula?

I'm so confused...

SomeMightSay · 27/03/2009 21:00

MrsY Reflux is very hard to diagnose. To get an official diagnosis for that, they either need to put a camera down the throat or do x-rays, but as they need to see it actually happening, they won't x-ray because they'd have to do it all day and the first option is far too invasive so IME and to my knowledge diagnosis for reflux goes on symptoms.

The options you have stated above have confused me just reading!!!
Personally I would say pick the one that you think will help more. Personally I wouldn't want to switch formulas more than once in a short period of time because it will take a few days for M to get used to another brand and a few days for symptoms to settle.
Gaviscon was given to us for ds1 to be added to SMA for the duration of time he was on formula but I wasn't happy with that so I said they had to find something else at which stage we were referred to paed who said if I thought it was reflux, then it was reflux and although they wouldn't diagnose it, he had a strong belief in mothers intuition.
I said the other day that I have read and spoken to chemist and found out that colic can be caused and aggrivated by cows milk, so in severe cases you can try hypo-allergenic formulas, which I am hoping to do in the week.
I hate messing around with milk too much, I am adding dentinox too, but not happy about it, so I would personally push for lactose free formula and keep lo on it until they hit 14 weeks, but if another of those options appeals to you more, then that is the one to go with. Doesn't help much does it?
Now that M is over a month old, you could always stop the dentinox and give gripe water freeing you to try gaviscon if you want to.
Does she appear to be very uncomfortable? If she doesn't seem to have constant pains then it probably isn't reflux, as I've been told is similar feeling to heartburn.
Keep her upright for 45mins after a feed to encourage milk to stay down. Ds1 was still sick right up until about a year but wasn't it pain with it.
Colic will pass on it's own between 12/14 weeks, but most often reflux sticks around until weaning, but you get different advice as when to wean a reflux baby.
I',m rambling.

SomeMightSay · 27/03/2009 21:07

Have to go now, dp wants us to watch a film. But will be on in the morning.

Ps. I don't think sickness is due to colic though.

Goodluck will see any more posts in the morning, but having been through this once, I would pick lactose free milk or go with colief, give 1-2 weeks for improvements to become apparent before doing anthing else

thehouseofmirth · 28/03/2009 08:35

Morning!Where are you all?

Grrrr have been up since 5.30am. This is DS1's new habit. No idea why, he's usually quite civilised. Very annoying as Baby T was snoozing peacefully til after 7am.

What are our plans for today?

SomeMightSay · 28/03/2009 10:49

Morning. I was here earlier but saw no posts since me last night so didn't think anyone was around.

I have just packed for the boys to stay overnight with my parents. Woo-hoo!!!!!
They were mammoth bags though, amazing how much stuff they need for one night and day!!!
So, thom in answer to your question, from about 3pm, I plan to drink and drink and smoke and drink and then sleep for a very long time!! But the sensible side of me will probably decide to clean the flat from top to bottom as the boys won't be here. How boring will that be? Not if I do it when I'm rat arsed enjoying a good Pinot

SomeMightSay · 28/03/2009 10:53

Thom My ds1 went through a phase of getting up at that un-godly hour a while back, we used to get up at 6 anyway so wasn't a huge issue, I just accepted that's what we were gonna do. HNe was about 8 moinths old and I didn't have a newborn. Hope he settles back to a normal waking time soon.

SomeMightSay · 28/03/2009 10:55

Oh, and I'm going to have a bath, plastic toy car free, and puzzle piece free, but I will take my book and a nice big bottle glass of wine. Can't wait!!!!!!!

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