Fab Feb 2009: attack of the zombie mums

[dinkystinky]

So here we all are, complete with babies and gro-bags under our eyes

QK.... so glad you have alexander home now, must be a huge relief for you all.

oddly enough the same thing happened with one of aarons (many) canula sites, it was one on his foot and when they removed it it had been digging right into his foot. didn't break the skin unlike your poor lad though, he's a quiet baby not to have complained about it! aaron tried chewing and pulling on the canula in his hand so much he pulled it out of position and they had to relocate to his foot... and then his other foot when he dislodged that... and back to his hand when he fecked up that one, bad enough all that but each time they had to do anything needle wise it took about 6 attempts to get a vein that was willing to produce blood for them! he also pulled out his nose tube with great satisfaction and waved it around as if to show the nurses what he'd done

i might try that blanket nest you suggest, i could do with lying on my tummy for a while in the bed!

rosie, glad all is ok... how odd that it shoul be so heavy, you must have gotton a fright. hope the magic acid works

pempe, sounds like a growth spurt, it's exhausting all right but he'll settle down in a day or two once your supply kicks up a notch to match his new appetite

rosie Hope you're ok and the bleeding wasn't anything too serious.
PT Hope you're ok. x
dinky hope your dp's feeling a bit better
QK So pleased Alex is back home. The poor little love with his fingers. Glad he's ok.
That little nest they make in the cot's is great isn't it? They did that for ds1 when he had to be admitted to hospital when he was 3 months, I also did it at home when he was very unsettled. He was in a cot at 9 weeks because he was too long and fat for moses basket by then.

Had a lovely day yesterday, went to Putney to see a friend in the morning, she had to go to wrk at 1:30 so then took the bos round to my mum's which was nice. Ds1 was sooooo good too, he was up at 7 yesterday morning and didn't fall asleep till 5pm but didn't get all whingy like he normally does.
Bad night last night, I went to bed at 9pm, Luke woke at 10, so I fed him, then ds1 woke up so I put him in my bed but it took him a while to settle to sleep, Luke woke again at 12 all bunged up and not being able to breathe properly so gave some drops up his nose which he hates, settle dack about 1ish, woke again at 2, so I fed him, then he woke at 4 but settled quickly, dp got in at 4:30 so then I think my brain knew I could get some sleep and both ds's would be ok. Luke woke at 5 but I was struggling by this point so dp said he'd take him through to the livingroom, I told him to feed him. I got up at 7 because I woke to hear Luke really screaming and ds shouting, dp said he hadn't fed Luke because he wasn't sure if I wanted him too or whether I needed him to wait till 7! I explained again about growth spurts. We have to go to playgroup this morning and then I have to do some shopping but hope to be home with ds having lunch at 12ish so we can all nap. I've never felt as tired as I do now.
Dp said that next time he finishes work early, he's not going to bother coming to bed because what with babies cryng and me fidgeting he can't get any sleep anyway, so i told him that with an attitude like that maybe he should think about not bothereing to come home.
Hope everyone's ok.

Afterthought, I really need to stop being so UR to and about dp, after all he works is nuts off and must be shettered himself, although from the amount of change I just found in his pocket, I suspect that most of last night was spent playing cards.
(I wasn't going through his pockets, Iwas putting them in the wash so just emptied them)

QK glad you're home and all's ok. Love the idea of blanket sausages in the cot, I'm going to try that. DS is almost too big for his bedside crib now so can see a transfer in the not too distant future.

PT thanks for your words (and on the other thread). I think Harry is going through one huge growth spurt that started just after birth and is still going on

The little darling fed almost constantly from 5 til 9 yesterday but rewarded me with a nice long kip - well, sort of. He woke at 12, out of instinct I put him to the breast and he wasn't remotely interested! Just wanted a cuddle. Back to bed, up for a feed at 3.40. Can't quite believe it! I don't expect this to be a new pattern though

Housework day today (baby/boob permitting). Can't complain really, spent 3 hours yesterday in the sunshine at the local beach with my friends and their children

Morning everyone..... So sorry I have not been on for over a week.. Things have not been good in the LB household...

DD got a very bad case of D&V and was very poorly. DS got readmitted to hospital because he couldn't keep anything down. I stayed with him and it was awful the tests they did, my poor baby!!! Anyway they have ruled out lots of things but can not actually say what it is so they are treating him for reflux and if it doesn't improve then we have got to go back in. He is not so dehydrated now as he has had drip for 4 days.....

I have today woken up with d&v as well so now worried I will pass that on to him....

worry worry worry that is all parenthood is made off......

oh lardy, how horrible poor little guy being so sick, it frightens them so much to throw up at that age doesn't it? hope the reflux meds work and he's able to keep something down. {{{{hugs}}}}

seriously, this group is having the most disgstingly bad luck with sick babies hopefully lardy's ds will be the last and no more of us will have to endure a stay in hospital.

Hi there everyone. Sorry I haven't been on for ages - please let me into your secret as to how you look after your DC's and get time to post on Mumsnet!!! I seem to be running just to stand still.

I haven't managed to catch up on the thread yet but hugs to anyone that needs them. I'm in need of a huge hug because Sam really does have night and day confused. Plus I've been having a hard time with DH, but I think we are coming through ok. Just got a bonus from work so feeling chuffed about that (it's not much but may mean I can have a couple of months extra maternity leave !

I promise I will catch up with everyone later today - not too much later as I'm in bed at 9.30 every night at the moment!!!

Hope you all have sunshine where you are!

It's an extra special Mother's Day for us this year!!! Let's hope those Dad's remember to get something, or else!!

Lardy - what a terrible run of bad luck Hope DD is better now and that DS improves really quickly - and that you're over the D&V bug as soon as humanly possible! Hope the doctors figure out what's up with DS and soon...

Pempe - great that Harry let you have a long sleep stint; that's the brilliant pay off for the cluster feeding! Dont worry, his feeding will settle down (may not feel like it, but it will) - DS1 was a milk monster but started sleeping regularly for 8 hour stints at around 9 weeks I think so there is eventually a plus side (and he had settled into 4 hour feeds by himself by 3 months).

SMS - sorry you had another shocker of a night last night and Catstar sorry you're having a shocker night after night; hope Sam gets day and night sorted out soon. Must be something in the air as Danny had me up more than half the night too (went from waking twice a night to a feed to five times last night - and this was even though he was in bed with me after the second waking - and taking over an hour to settle each time; think it was wind related as the little man was farting like a trooper!) and then when I finally got to sleep at 5.20, DS1 woke up and started yelling for mummy (found out yesterday he's teething with his back molars - brilliant timing!). I ended up telling DH to deal with DS1 after 6 as I just did not have the energy...

Sorry there are so many poorly babies and other siblings. It's enough to keep up with one feeding/pooing newborn and the stuff that goes with it, let alone poorly babies and toddlers on top. Hope they are all better soon. SMS Sorry you had a bad night. I always find one really bad night is followed by a slightly better one (can't get much worse eh ).

DS wouldn't go to sleep last night (he'd fallen asleep in the car for quite a long time with granny (he doesn't have a nap in the day anymore)) so was completely wired when he arrived back home ready for bed. He was yelling for everything under the sun and eventually gave up when he realised I wasn't going to play ball and went off.

Dinky thanks for the helpful fitness info. I'm leading myself in gently by pushing DD and DS (all 2 and a half stone of their combined weight) up and down the hill into our local centre (about 2.5 miles round trip) most mornings whilst DD is napping. DS will be coaxed into it with the promise of a babycino at Costa coffee but otherwise told me that he didn't want to go to the "supermarket" he wanted to go to the "Moggle Village" again. My mum took him to the Bekonscot Model Village yesterday as a Granny/DS special treat so he wants to go again bless 'im. He loves it there. If you are ever out the M40 way, it's a really nice day out - most little boys love it.

DD is 8 weeks today ! - I can't believe how quickly it's gone by. She's now waking mostly around 3.30/4am (after going down at 11pm) and feeding well and going down well after feeding but often wakes herself up again at about 5.30am grunting and farting. It's the windy bottom which I think gets her. I managed to get her settled this morning with a dummy but she is writhing around so much she just can't keep it in. I remember DS's wind issues getting a lot better around 3/4 months. I can hear her on the monitor now grunting and groaning but not crying. I bet if I go and see her, she'll have her eyes closed...

Off NCT'ing this afternoon and hopefully the toddlers can run around in my friends lovely garden so we can cuddle the babies (there's a few no 2's now) drink tea and eat cake . I really hope this weather stays with us for a while. It really makes those bleary eyed days feel a whole lot better.

I've not made a birth announcement yet despite being up all night on mn the night before I was induced, so here goes...

New Arrivals

MrsArchieTheInventor - DD Eleanor Elizabeth, 10lbs 3oz, 06.02.08
TinkerBellesMumandFifi2 - DD Sîan Anne Denise, 4lbs 8.5oz, 02.01.09
Dinkymum - DS Isaac Christopher, 5lbs 8oz, 19.01.09
Ooogs - DS Luke Daniel, 8lbs 6oz, 20.01.09
Herbgarden - DD Amy Hannah, 5lbs 14oz 23.01.09
idontbelieveit - DD Freya Rose, 6lbs 8oz, 26.01.09
laidbackinengland - DD Mabel Lucy, 8lbs 14oz, 29.01.09
tinasan - DS Enrico Marco, 6lbs 10oz, 29.01.09
onwardandupward - DC2 [I'll put name on fb], 8lb exactly, 30.01.09
stacysmom - DD Tabitha Rose, 6lbs 15oz, 31.01.09
MsLucy - DS Stanley William, 8lb 7 oz, 02.02.09
LittleMissNorty - DS Ewan Scott, 6lbs 13ozs, 02.02.09
swampster - DS Jacob, 7lb, 02.02.09
Jelliebaby - DD Olivia, 7lb 3oz, 02.02.09
MarkStretch - DS Frankie, 7lb 15oz, 03.02.09
Pempe ? DS Harry, 03.02.09
Nkweto - DD Alexandra, 8llbs 11oz, 04.02.09
MamaGoose - DD Indigo Norah Rose, 4.15kg/9lb 1oz, 04.02.09
SomeMightSay (lbb)- DS Luke Alan, 7 lb 13 oz, 04.02.09
fgpl - DD Phoebe, 8lb 9 oz, 05.02.09
McDreamy - DD Abigail Louise, 7lb 1/2oz, 06.02.09
Rosieposey - DS Milo John William, 8lb 10oz, 06.02.09
mumoverseas - DS Harrison William, 3.1k, 08.02.09
Questionkid ? DS Alexander George, 08.02.09
PinkTulips ? DS Aaron Matthew, 8lbs 2oz 09.02.09
Dinkystinky - DS Daniel Nikhil, 8lbs 6oz, 10.02.09
MrsY ? DD Meredith Lilian Faith, 7lb 7oz, 10.02.09
Givethedogahomebirth - DD, 8lbs 15oz, 11.02.09
KT1983 - DD Poppy Louise, 6lb 80z, 13.02.09
Pluto - DS Albert David Magnus, 10lbs 10oz, 13.02.09
JenniferTurkington, DD Harriet, 9lb, 15.02.09
America - DS Leo, 3.3kg, 15.02.09
KazzaL - DS Benjamin Hector Douglas, 8lbs3oz, 16.02.09
Astarte - details to follow.
winemakesmummyclever - DS Issac Alexander, 7lb 4oz, 17.02.09
TheHouseofMirth - DS Tarran James, 7lb 2oz, 18.02.09
Fruitstick - DS, Arthur, 8lb 13oz, 18.02.09
Calico1 - DD Lilian Helena, 7lb 4oz, 19.02.09
Mentalpup - DS Harry, 7lb 10oz, 20.02.09
Neerly3 - DS Charlie, 7lb 8oz, 20.02.09
Cocodrillo - DS Rufus, 8 lb 8 oz, 20.02.09
pinkbabybump - DD Eleanor Catherine, 6lb 14oz, 20.02.09
lardybump - DS Owen Francis, 8lb 12oz, 21.02.09
Catstar - DS Samuel James, 9lb 1oz, 22.02.09
chilledmama - DD, 8lb 5oz, 23.02.09
Littlesez ? DD, Isobella Rose, 8lbs 23.02.09
katieblirdsnest - DS Ivor, 8lb 4oz, 24.02.09
ihavenewsockson - DS Viktor Jake, 8lb 15 oz, 24.02.09
ScubaGroover - DS William 7lbs 10 oz 26.0209

Welcome MrsArchie.

Arse - I have now come down with DH's many and numerous viruses and feel like death, Fortunately my doctor dad is here (has diagnosed it as flu plus another poss virus) and he's dealing with DS2 at the moment and nanny is dealing with DS1. Fingers crossed DS1 and DS2 dont get it - it is nasty. Am probably going to drop off MN for a few days while trying to kick it (DH has agreed to come home early from work today to look after bed and bathtime for DS1 and DS2's bathtime - may need to press him into spending the night in the room with DS2 and me tonight as I fall over when I get up) so hope everyone who is ill gets better, you all have fab mothers' days on Sundays and I manage to find the new thread when I log back on

oh, poor you dinky.

take it easy and remember to keep your fluids up, between flu and bf-ing you'll need them. get well soon, doubt we'll have moved on by the time you get back, we seem to have slowed down a bit (you'd swear some people had other things to do )

Lardy So sorry to hear about the d&v bug in your house and the lo being admitted to hospital. Hope Owen is coping ok, and the reflux treatment helps.
Catstar We still have days where Luke will be asleep all day and awake most of the night, but regardless of what I do to keep him awake he won't work with me! It's hard to remember but we have been here before with dc1's so we do know it gets better, even with the OH's, we have good days and bad, luckily for me, my dp puts up with all my unreasonable behaviour and childish strops (heaven knows why!!) and we also know that these early months with a new baby are the hardest thing we've ever done, and hopefully if we've all got through it together once, we'll do it again.
dinky sorry you also had a rubbish night.
herb same here, ds1 started getting better wind wise at about 4 months. Luke is suffering with wind and blocked nose like most of the babies here, it's horrible isn't it? I feel so sorry for him.
dinky You get yourself better woman and get back here asap. Seriously though, I hope you and your family recover from bugs and viruses soon. x take care.

We've had a lovely day today, this is going to be a post where I do not moan (did you all just fall of your chairs ) we had playgroup this mornng but because it was such a nice day they let us play outside and forgot all the structured activities. Ds1 was so good again. He has a little girlfriend there, we'll call her M. I arrived at centre first then M arrived with her mum and she was chasing ds1 around (he 19m, she's 16m), it was so cute, ou should have seen both theor faces when they couldn't find each other.
Ds1 wouldn't go to sleep after lunch despite being very tired and as him and Luke were screaming their heads off for a while, dp got up and we drove to a park somewhere that has monkeys, birds, peacocks, goats and other small animals. Ds1 loved the birds.

Not sure if I mentioned anything a few weeks back about a boy at playgroup losing half a finger? I'd missed a few sessions when Luke was born so when I went back i asked the mum why her ds had a bandage on his hand and she told me a shocking story of him getting his finger shut in the door at the doctors surgery. Apparently the doc sent her to a hospital in Slough although there is one in chertsey that is closer and has a really good pead a&e, anyway she took her ds (age 2) there, he had half a finger hanging by one thread and they told her to take him home and return in the morning and they'd see if they could reattach it
so that's what she did and they were unable to save the fiinger. Now the main Q is why didn't she go straight to a&e and why did her gp send to anywhere that was not the nearest hospital??????
So this 2yo now only has half a finger, poor thing.
Anyway, he is a head banger and is one of those boys that walks into walls for the fun of it and smashes his head on the floor for no apparent reason (between us, from what I've seen, the mum could and should do more to discourage him from doing this, but not really my place to comment) so he is always covered in bruises. She told me today that someone from playgroup has reported her to Social Services. How would she know? She told me that she's frightened they'll take him off her.
Bugger they've both just started screaming......

Evening, I am struggling to find the time to catch up with the thread let alone post, I take my hat off to those of you keeping up .
Ellie is now 4 weeks old and feeding every 4 hours, even through the night (ff), I am still shattered tho, but it's so worth it .
I have a question for the CS ladies - how long before your scar area felt better? I had my CS 4 weeks ago and find the scar sore and my lower tummy very tender to touch - is this normal?
whoops, got to get another feed ready - can't believe how quickly the time goes .
Hope everyone enjoying the sunshine

omg sms... sounds like a mix of bad parenting, dodgey gp, dodgy hospital and mum listening to advice that most of us would have been very about has resulted in the poor lad losing his finger, how horrid for him

not really surprised she was reported though, apparently headbanging is often a sign of an emotionally damged child and is closely linked to abuse so combine that with a mother who doesn't seem interested in stopping him from doing it and alarm bells must have been ringing for someone. hope it all works out for the best for the boy.

glad you had a good day, that park sounds great... i really wish we had stuff like that round here

pbe... it does go so quick doesn't it? i said good morning to someone at 2pm today as my brain just doesn't keep up!

Hi PBB...At 4 weeks my cs scar was still very tender to the touch although I've had three courses of anti-biotics now to get rid of an infection. At my 6 week check a couple of weeks ago it was still not great but not oozing any more. At 8 weeks it's quite "sensitive" and a bit lumpy in places so to answer your question, I think it depends but my first CS wound did feel a bit better earlier but would often feel sensitive and even itchy up to a year after....if you're at all concerned though get to your GP - you'll see a few of us CS ladies have ended up on the anti-b's..

Dinky hunnie - so sorry your crook - get better asap and come back feeling better xx

Welcome Archie Your lo shares a birthday with me and McDreamy.

PBB like Herb says your cs scar will probably be tender for a little while yet and my tummy is still numb and tender in different places. My bubs is up every 3-4 hours for feeds during the night too and is FF cant wait till those hours extend out a little bit atm 5 hours sounds like a miracle!

SMS what a sad and horrid story about that poor little boy terrible advice on the part of the gp too by the sounds of it. Headbanging like PT said is not a great sign of a happy child and if his mums not discouraging it then ... well she probably could do with having her parenting looked at tbh.

Ordered a lovely Thai ( im really into Thai atm) and am about to scoff with a good dvd. DH is away tomorrow night on a stag night in Bristol so am going to just have a nice chill evening with him tonight. Not much hope of being spoilt for mothering Sunday though eh? He will have a monumental hangover and isnt due back until 4ish anyway Nevermind will get the girls to bring me tea and breakfast in bed ( if i can get them up ) Hope everyone else has a mnice Friday night (Poor Dinky though )

Thanks herb and Rosie - I forget sometimes that a CS is major surgery and i just expect to be feeling 100% better by now .
Rosie ellie slept for 5 and a 1/2 hours the other night, i don't know why or how as I did exactly what i have been doing all along (i wake her to feed at about 10pm then settle her and she will wake again for feeding from 2am onwards), she woke at 3.30am after a 10pm feed, I was amazed! I think it was a one off as she hasn't done it since but i live in hope
Look at me - 2 posts in 1 night - i must be getting used to multi tasking!!

I didn't know that head banging was a sign of emotional damage/insecurities. Do they do it then for attention?
When she first told me what happened, i thought it didn't sound right mainly because she didn't run, fly whatever to a&e like you think you would so I mentioned it to dp and asked whether he thought I should have a word with the group member of staff who was the only other person in the room when the mum told me and he said best nt get involved and it's probably purely innocent and her story true, so I didn't say anything, glad now. So the mum said she thinks it's that woman that reported her.
I've spent a bt of time thinking about it today and what would I do if my ds was bashing his head on the floor and is me thinking she should do something about it just me thinking I know it all iyswim. When he does it in group, she laughs and just says here he goes again, now I would be straight on the floor telling him not to do it, or something but maybe she reacts like that in public because she's nervous or worried what we all think etc. Now that you've pointed out the reasns for this behaviour, I realise, I've never heard him talk, he actually spends the whole time screaming, not crying just a high pitched, short, sharp, scream. odd.
The mum planned a meeting with the staff from the centre to try to find out what's been going on, she also brought her mum in for that too. It's a sure start centre s hopefully they can help her if there are issuse, which I think there must be, and try to get her some support or something.
She does strike me as a bit odd, but then most people do, I seem to attract them! Oh well, lets just hope this little boy is ok and whateever happens he and his family get the help and support it sounds likethey may need.
Certainly puts my problems in perspective. Isn't it awfully sad when you have to hear things like this to realise that you're doing a grand job?

Lardy, Dinky @ the illness in your houses, hope you and ur dc's get better really soon!

SMS i'm afraid i cant comment too much on that story else I i'll cry all night [major hormmonal bury head in sand emoticon]

Welcome MrsArchie

Pinkbabyellie - Externally my scar and surrounding area felt numb but tender to touch for about 8 wks but I had no infections or complications - scar still feels numb now at nearly 2yrs on. Did my 1st sit up @ 4 wks but increased my bleeding no end as too much too soon. was doing kick boxing by 4 mths tho so it does come back in the end, just takes a bit of time

V busy atm as my mum has had another op on eye which again doesn't look too successful. My sperm donating arsehole of a father isn't helping as per so it falls to me to look after her which isn't easy with a toddler and a 2 wk old, a step son, hubby and a 3 storey house to run/keep clean, visitors to cater for etc all on 1-3 hrs broken sleep am starting to get a bit down with it all and mostly feel a bit shite as I keep shouting at DS1 when he is being a little shite challenging

Pempe - you were welcome. Please let me know if u cant order on line as will be more than happy to send you a red cross sleep parcel

Spotty just reading your post has made me feel exhausted - I'd let the housework slide and get visitors to look after themselves, if I were you. If anyone comes to see me now, they get instant coffee and stale biscuits (hardly Nigella Lawson, me).

We're going to Athens tomorrow for a few days - DH has work there and I thought we may as well go with him. So today will be spent packing. Knowing me, I'll end up with far more stuff than we actually need with us, but better to be safe than sorry. Harry can get through 3 or 4 babygros in a day if he really tries

I know this topic has been discussed (many times) before, but who is the baby carrier/sling expert here? I have a baby bjorn which Harry loves being in, but I was thinking about buying a fabric sling, so he can be carried in different positions. I really like the look of these ringslings. Opinions???

Pempe I also have a Hug a Bub and a Wilkinet but am a recent convert to rings slings and think they're great. They are very quick to put on and load baby into. Great for breast feeding in. Tarran likes to be upright in ours and despite what some people say, at this age I think you can snuggle them in enough that you can be totally hands-free with them so good for getting stff done at home. I would say if you have any back issues then the MeiTei or a wrap might be better (don't be put off by the need to tie it) as the baby's weight is distributed across your back. I know people who carry 2+ year olds in rings slings.

If you did go for a wrap then these would cooler in your lovely hot summers

Morning all

Pempe we had a baby bjorn for Harry but i heard that they aren't good for baby's hips and it killed my back so I now have a moby sling which is just like the wrap link THOM posted. I took Sam round Tescos in it last night and then fed him standing outside the car (DH disappeared back inside with the keys!) with loads of people walking passed and you couldn't see a thing. Perfect for the always hungry baby!

I have a papoozle too but haven't gotten round to trying it out yet.