April 2005 babies!!!

[Gem1355]

Hi

Howz everyone doing?

Darcie is doing well but losing abit of weight after she put it on after inital weight loss but okay other than that.

would post a picture but don't know how!

P.S. I haven't checked where Brockwell Park is, MotherP, but I will do. I hope you have a good holiday!

Hi everyone

Verso hope your feeling a little better today!

Well i think Darcie is teething, she's chewing her hand and dribbling alot and licking her gums alot as well! So wots the best thing to use calgel or teething powders?

Also am going to put her onto baby rice at the weekend, i know she is only 10 weeks but she is on cow & gate for hungrier babies and is drinking 8oz dry 4-5 times a day and doesn;t seem to be filling her up, wot do u all think?
Advice would be apprecitated!

gem, at our post natal group last week, we had this lady who came to talk about oral care. she brought with her a product which looks rather groovy. it's a first toothbrush but she also said that it is good to use for rubbing on teething gel in baby's mouth - {

silly computer! let's try again - it looks like this she said boots sell them - not on their website but will go and look at them using leg power later this week

anyone else seen them around? or have used them?

HI

Thanx for hte advice CSA

Darcie had her first immunisations today and i was horrible, nurse gave her first injection and after a delayed reaction she really cried tears and all! then she put the second in and i don't think she realised as screaming about first!

She's okay tho! abit irritable but thats understandable!

I had to have blood tests done today, as my feet and ankles keep swelling still, and have done since i was 32 weeks pg, and still go up like balloons every nite!

What does everyone think the best form of contraceptive is after having a baby bearing in mind would like another in about 2 yrs!
And can't have the injection, so wot do u think would be the best?

Also Jamie hasn't sent back any of the forms to do with having a DNA test so are oing to send in a letter saying they r assuming paternity!

Seabird: when you had a totally unGina day like I did today, what was little one like the next day after sleeping thru the night? I have a feeling my little one may do that tonight.

the gina thing is falling apart as Maya is refusing the breast and I am distraught. I do not want to go strictly bottle at this time. I've been advised to offer her nothing but the breast when she cries.

Any guideline the more experienced sisters would like to share with me re demand feeding?

hiya alux, how was last night? is maya still refusing the breast? is it all the time or just at the gina "scheduled" time? she can't be teething, can she?

Verso - hope things have got a bit better, I'm sure your birth experience has had loads to do with how you feel now. After have a good birth experience this time I realise that the first time around wasn't how everyone else felt (that is the way you said you feel now). I did lots of bursting into tears unexpectedly - including in my bosses office when I took dd in to show work - he really didn't know what to do! As everyone else has said - it does get better and I think you've done the right thing talking to the HV.

Having just said that - I could really do with a holiday! Was on sick bucket duty last night with dd (2 changes of bedding), we've all had cough and sore throat for last week. Patrick is now waking every 21/2 hours through the night, dd was sleeping through by now and don't know what I've done differently. Gina Ford wouldn't be happy with me as now our routine has disappeared. I'm currently trying the baby whisperer EASY way - has anyone else had any success? My biggest problem is waking him up after a feed.

She is still refusing the breast at all feeds though it has improved. If it's v. full she will suck well if the let down is quick. when it's half empty, she gets impatient and has a hissy fit. I let her get over it, distract her a bit and soothe her then either try the same one or the other one. Mixed reviews but hoping for improvement.

last nite was mixed. she slept till 8.30, fed and went back down till 11.15 fed and napped and it continued like that till 3.30 when I realised she could not be powerfeeding from the long day before - it was comfort sucking again! She would suck for a little while, look sleepy, then scream and push away. I panicked a bit but resolved to swaddle her tightly, I put her at arm's length and kept the dummy in her mouth. After 30 mins she was away with the fairies till 6.20. Fed kept her awake till 8.20 when she napped till 10.20-ish. Fed again and by 11.20 she looked ready for a nap so I did the swaddling again, soothed her on my chest with some rocking - as I was planning to take a nap too after last night.

I have my fingers crossed for later today/tonight when my supply dips.

Alux - Jack does exactally the same thing. He will feed fine to begin with but as soon as he is winded and put back on he has a massive flap and screams blue murder - anyone would think i was trying to give him poison! -. I try to calm him down as does DH, but he wont have any of it. So we resort to the bottle to ensure that he has enough to eat.

Spoke to the HV about it yesterday and her only advice was to go to the lactation clinic at the hospital to make sure i was latching him on properly - decided not to go as i have managed just fine for the last 6 weeks!

Hope that you are able to get Maya back in the swing of it soon x

I am not alone. I just gave in after persevering all day and gave her 3 oz out of a teat & bottle that flows more like a breast - still fast tho. She seemed bloody chuffed if a 7 wk old can do that. On the bright side, maybe it won't be every feed time.

I decided to bf because dh suffered terrible excema as a child and was hoping to prevent this happening to her. Last night to my horror, I noticed a teeny suspicious patch on her eyelid and below her eye just like dh gets when its hot - at it was her hottest day yesterday.

is it worth going down the expressing route instead?

hello everyone. I'm a bit late in joining this thread. I know it'll probably sound mad but I didn't feel confident enough to as I feel as if I've been blindly going through the past 7 weeks with dd and feel such a novice. I guess thats what this thread is for but there you go.

Anyway, feel like we're finally finding our feet as dd is finally steadily gaining weight. She's still only 8lb 15 1/2 oz though and quite petite. The HV measured her today and she's grown 4 cm in length and head circumference. She's still below average though but the hv didn't seem too concerned. DD has her 1st set of jabs on Monday too, can't say i'm looking forward to that.

Anyway, just one question (sorry, i'm sure it's bound to be in this thread somewhere but I don't have enough time to read the whole thread, does anyone????). Do any of you have a routine going especially at 7 weeks? I'd quite like to know what sort of sleep pattern you have, especially at night. I have been lent the GF book but not sure I can get my head round that routine just yet. Cheers

Hi Delgirl. Glad to see you on the thread. Rest assured that I for one am still none the wiser re: routine/the best way to get through the first few weeks and this is No. 2 for me so that doesn't say much about my parenting skills.

Glad also that you have a small baby, Maddie weighed 8lb 14oz at 8 weeks and is just under the 9th centile on the chart (still don't put much store by the charts as my HV told me that it was done on a survey of 100 bottlefed American babies in the 1940's!!). I'm just thankful she's not bigger as my back is KILLING me from all the rocking/bouncing/patting that I'm doing. I'm sure these are all no/no's but I'm doing whatever gets me through easiest this time round. I have to say that I've come to the conclusion that most babies don't get a proper routine going until 3-4 months and as I spent last time desperate to find a routine before this and thus seemed to spend a lot of time frustrated and disillusioned (plus feeling a big fat failure that my child wasn't sleeping through from week 2!!) I'm trying not to get my knickers in a twist about it - easier said than done when you're sleep deprived. That said, I'm still in a dilemma over whether to wake her up for a last feed at 10-11pm when she's just taken 2 hours to fall asleep at 9.30pm.... Ho hum.

DG - I know we've talked about this in RL, but if it's any help to you and anyone else this is roughly what I try to do with Ryan - now nearly 9 wks (seems like he's been here for ever!!)

I basically try and get the last feed in around 11pm (and Bronnie I do this even if he only fed a couple of hours before and wake him up to do it if necessary!). This normally takes him around to about 4am, then to 7/8am. Then he is normally on track for feeding about every 3 hrs. And this week have just started putting him down in his room after the mid evening feed (about 8pm) rather than in his pram downstairs with us. So far, he does seem to be settling a bit better and I'm getting great exercise running up and down the stairs all the time! The other thing is we always give him the 11pm feed in his room as well - it's dark and I don't talk to him and just keep it all very calm.

DG - the timings were taken roughly from Gina Ford - I stuck to them with Jack too and they did seem to help develop a routine. Didn't bother with all the other stuff mind you - far too restrictive!!!
Having seen Amelia the other night I think you're doing great as a Mum - she is beautiful - don't be so hard on yourself!!!

Thanks for your posts Bronnie and Merlin. I know she's still young and timings can be all over the place but it would be quite nice to be able to roughly stick with something if we can. At the moment, I couldn't tell you what times I feed as it's different each day usually.

Merlin, I know what you mean about the restrictions of GF. '8am, you must be showered, dressed and eaten cereal, toast and had a large glass of water!!!!!!!!'

Well, everyday this week I've been out of the door by 10am so tomorrow I don't intend getting out of my pit until at least that time, apart from for dd of course.

Just off to feed her now, though having seen what you've written, perhaps i'll wait a little bit longer.

btw, she put on 10oz in the past 2 weeks so i'm really pleased.

Thanks for the tips

g'night!

Morning DG - hope you had a good night! Well done little Amelia with the weight gain - that's great - so you must be doing something right DG!!!

Having bestowed my routine wisdom on you yesterday it went a bit out kilter last night - he was flat out at 11pm so decided to leave him and went to bed. He woke at 12.30am (previous feed was at about 7.30pm/8pm!). Then he went until 4am and then started yelling at 7am so not quite the usual.

That's the problem with babies - just when you think you have a routine they go and change it!!!

Have a good weekend and perhaps we can meet for coffee next week?

morning!! Well, I fed Amelia at 11, put her down and she went off at 12, woke up at 2.30, then again at 5.30, then again at 7.30. Boo hoo hoo, I feel knackered. I have changed my diet this week as you know and eating lots of fruit etc and have cut out the chocolate. Maybe thats why she's unsettled perhaps. So, it's either give up b/f or the diet!

Gotta go

oh yeah, and coffee on Weds if you like, same place?

Have a good weekend

Coffee on Wed would be fine - about 11am? Will see if Bunny is about too.

ok, great. I did mention it to her at yours the other night.

but not time/date though

Aprilmeadow: I have created a thread in breast/bottle feeding about my current tribulations with feeding. It's called 'help me decide what to do next' or something like that. Have a peep and see if there is anything helpful for you.

Delgirl: If you are a first time mum like me, GF makes a wonderful outline to hold your hand in these early days. The strict routine is not something I am able to ger my head round at this time but it has saved my sanity so far. I plan to go back to it when my current hiccup is over.

She gives no nonsense advice in a timely way that I wish was more common knowledge too. Even if you follow nothing of her routine, a friend of mine with 3 kids and v. unstructured way of raising says that she learnt valuable things from GF - she says the weaning book also has great advice. - [a dreamtime away for us yet!]

also one with a petite baby. born at 7 lb 4 oz, breast fed (can't say for how much longer yet) who lost 8 oz and that was by week 3! and is down at the 9th %. Up till last wk Wed when she was weighed she had put on 8 oz per week (2 lbs in total) Still moseying on at the 9th%. Someone has to be down there!