June 2008: Nine months in, nine months out

[Essie3]

Here's to the next nine months!

PP, sorry things are so tough. I hope you get some comfort from chatting on here about it. Are you still going to NZ then?

Sponge, well that is just the best news. Enjoy your day!

Sponge- I'm seriously sorry for you !!! Perhaps you can rub the perfect bump for me!!

Neenz- re nannies, I would think that it would be the most reasonable route for you. [whispers- "when I used to be one..."]I found that it's more cost effective with two kids to have a nanny share. I don't exactly know how shares work re: employer thing but you can always contact nannytax and they might help you. There are plenty of agencies out there who will deal wit finding nanny shares but check out gumtree and mn threads too.

Whine- will check out other thread!

PP- so very sorry to hear the latest news. Don't suppose it helps with the feeling-low thing!! I found counselling to be a real boost. TBH (personal opinion alert so feel free to ignore) I would put your health above your desire to keep feeding R. You've done fantastically well to keep going this long (I was all done by four months) but if it's the only thing that's standing between you and better treatment (ie: more effective drugs) then I think you need to reconsider. I stress that this is ONLY MY OPINION and you are more than entitled to ignore it.

Oh PP I'm so sorry you are having such an awful time with PND. Wish I could help...

Neenz I had a nanny for the boys when we lived in the SE and it worked really well. I was part-time too. IIRC the agency sorted out the job-share bit of it. I agree that it makes sense when there are 2 children.

I had a nice coffee morning today (sorry you couldn't come neenz) but the 6-week-old baby made me feel very broody

Way to go Sponge! Great news! Have a due date makes it seem more real doesn't it?

Sponge, am so pleased for you, that's great news. Hope you have been floating around on clouds 9, 10 and 11 all day.

Penguin, nice to see you pop in, but sorry you are still suffering. I haven't got anything to add to what anyone else says, but try and be good to yourself.

Amber, if a dummy settles Luke, could you try leaving one or two in his cot? I attach one to B's sleeping bag and he's very good at putting it in himself now - so glad he can after the rotten period where he was waking every hour to get 'replugged' when he couldn't do it.

hi just skimming over posts as been away and edie is ill (high temp etc -although seems ok now in front of tv..but worried as sawa mr tactless and literal the gp)..spongethat is such great news... and do complain about that cons.

ali and amber sorry the sleeping thing is still so crap.

pp I am so sorry that things aren't getting any better.

neenz re nannies - way2paye were v.helpful on tax etc too - as were the other helpful types like puree on the thread here.

right better go as enjoying period of ok behaviour and smiles (I know i've turned into pfb mother but why does this kind of illness coincide with dh buggering off on business - I need his vintage experience...) lets hope she is better tomorrow (am dosing her on calpol and nurofen on docs advice).

Poppy - hope Edie feels better soon, don't forget you can ask on here, some of us are vintage Mums!!

Penguin - I really hope that you begin to feel better, how do you feel about what Puree says about bfeeding? She has a point.

Rolf - if you're feeling broody then get a move on and have another before your dh puts stuff back into storage again!!I was thinking about you the other day when I was cooking -did you find that garlic???

Puree , how long have you been ttc then? Tell me to mind my own business if you want, but if you do want to talk you know where we are.

I have survived another day, snow has stopped thank goodness, boys are in bed, now off to tidy up the bombsite which is my kitchen.

poppy illness always coincides with business trips . I'm a vintage mum and still was frantic with Fraser on the weekend. It's so hard when you don't have someone else there to judge their behaviour (is that listless? is that normal).

Rolf broody? you have wayyy too much energy.

Am waiting for my grocery delivery to arrive and then I'm off to bed! I think that might be it now...

thanks ah and deb -am assuming being whingy/hot/clingy and sleepy one minute then perking up after calpol/nurofen is normal. I also ignored the doc suggestion to dose more than normal on calpol as he didnt actually understand how much edie weighs (she doesn't weigh 10 kilos). am just letting her sleep it off and drink milk (have given up trying to feed her until she is hungry)...

PP can echo what puree said re b/f - my therapist also said same thing re not letting feeding get in way of your health. Giving it u defintely made me feel better.

rolf I too would love to know what happened to that garlic...

ps am really touched deb/ah re your help..reminds me why I post here

poppy help? i can do support but am not so helpful on the advice front!

sounds normal to me, if the Calpol is having some effect

support/help -its all good.. think nurofen worked better than calpol as she likes to grab the spoon and make a real mess with it(again someone without kids clearly thought it would be a great idea to make the most commonly used kids medecine a bright pink sticky liquid).

Poppy- TOTALLY normal. Babypearls is like a different child when I give her Nurofen (usually she is so thrilled to see it coming she sucks it out of the syringe before I can plunge!) then becomes more miserable as it's effects wear off. Cuddles and fluids and Calpol for temp is all you ca do....(((hugs)))

Debs- ttcing for two months so very early days. I think I'd just hoped that it would be easy and I'd see how the other half fall pregnant (like Sponge!!)

have been off line with broken computer, logged in to see SPONGE'S wonderful post. hooray! how fantastic. definitely complain about that other consultant.

no time to post anything else now, but hope all is well elsewhere.

x

Lol @ P&P!! What can I say, you just need to relax!

Joking aside, P&P, I do hope you find it much easier this time. But I'm not going to tell you any stories of clomid babies and their siblings cos I know how these used to wind me up and I don't want to annoy you .

poppy, sorry to hear your little girl is poorly - Alex has just puked his dinner and bedtime milk up all over the bedroom floor . Poor little mite.

Thanks for all your lovely messages, and going, I did laugh at you saying Alex was poking my tubes!! We had soooo many people say to us that "once we had one via IVF we would fall pg naturally" and we used to be very sarcastic and say, "yer, cos our little boy has been busy with the pipe cleaners" .

Feel a bit stupid now!

Hope it doesn't take too long Puree.

Why is Ethan crying? Anyone know? Just when I'm about to get in the bath?AARGH

N Night all xx

because he knows you're about to get in teh bath .. night all x

You are all so great! Sorry for the lack of personal responses.

I have accepted that it's time to stop bf-ing. It's wierd, but as well as bing sad, it feels a bit empowering as well. Like I'm getting my body back.

I have huge, very full, very painful boobs now though. I anticipate waking up to a wet bed tomorrow morning.

• Yep that's right Poppy

PP - buy yourself some lovely underwear to celebrate!

Amber - I think Luke has been sending Ethan messages, he has the "phase"! Last night he ended up in bed with me from midnight, feeding what felt like constantly, awake at 3 and we've been up since 5.00. No fever, can't work out if there's anything else the matter, could be the next pesky tooth I suppose. Grumble, grumble, grumble - Sorry

Urghh, we are having the same phase here. Awake since 4.45. Probably James's fault as he had to get up then to get a flight to Edinburgh. I am hiding in bed for 5 mins with P moaning in his cot before we start the day.

Why do the crap nights always happen when our DH's are away? Deb - Up with ya here. Seriously one of these nights we should all log in, see who's up, phone each other and drink wine (when the DH's can handle the next day). Duncan was up from 2-3 with a bad cough and then Fraser from 3-4, fell asleep in bed with me, and then both were up for good from 5:30.

On the positive side - I just got my return to work part time approved. Thank goodness I'm unionized and I have an amazing boss - it went really smoothly. With the lack of sleep and general chaos around here I think I'd have a hard time going back full time. It feels so much harder than last time (when I did go back fulltime).

PP I can understand why you're a bit sad to stop BF, but at this age I feel like I'm BF Fraser just as much for me as for him. It was different for me with DS1 since he was allergic to cow's milk and I had to keep going. This time I'm realizing that I can stop anytime I like which is surprisingly freeing.

Anyways, my point in all this is to try taking sudafed, especially the kind with pseudoephedrine. According to LactMed it's supposed to seriously reduce your milk output. (Makes sense, it reduces mucous after all).

x-posted with Ali. See! It is linked to when our DHs and DPs go away. (BTW, why is there no exhausted smiley?)

I feel so much better that I'm not alone in my exhaustion, Ali and Abdn, Ali and I can nap later though if babies go down, you Abdn probably don't get that chance , so sympathies and sleep vibes for both boys at the same time today!

I'm waiting for Tristan to go to school then I will feed Ethan and get him off to sleep ( I hope)

abdnhiker it's always Sunday nights that are bad here, because of going back to work Monday - how do they always know!

C has conjunctivitis in both eyes and a streaming cold, so we were off nursery yesterday and I resorted to the Medised last night, she was a bit hot and too snuffly to feed properly. I always feel like a drug pusher using it now, but it does work!

My friend had a little boy yesterday, lovely peaceful elective section after an extremely traumatic time first time round, I am so happy for her as she deserved a 'redemptive birth' experience.

PP I loved the feeling of having my body back when ds stopped feeding - though it only lasted 6 days by my reckoning and then I was pregnant again! I'd planned a lovely bra shopping expedition but that went by the board!