November 08 - Say it LOUD.......We're shades of GINGER and PROUD :0)

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Sorry you have been feeling a bit down monkey. Babies are hard work and life changes beyond all recognition when it's your first. By the time No3 comes along you can't remember what having a life meant

I've been listening to the Killers in the car and wish I could have gone. I did get offered a ticket to a concert they played the year before last, but I was eight months pregnant at the time and thought it might be a bit much

I'm a bit peeved that I booked tickets to see Chicago in Bradford next Saturday, but am going to miss it now . Jimmy Osmond, my childhood crush (I was five ears old before anyone says anything ) is in it too.

Hey Lacks if you go there for R&R call her for coffee with me!! 10 mins away and my cousin works there!!

mmmmmmm lacks, that looks lovely that place. Maybe one day I will get someone to look after ds1 and dump babies on parents, then dh and I could go to somewhere like that. It would be heaven and do wonders for 'us'. Sorry you will miss your show...

monkeym - don't think you would have been to envious of my Asda shop. Sportacus pants, nappies and many, many Chinese instant noodles (I love them!!!). The most 'foodie' thing I bought was rice noodles and prawns, made a nice stir fry. I know what you mean about feeling low. I had a very bad 2 weeks, felt worse than I had done so far, just like I couldn't carry on. I went out last Monday and left my front door wide open for 4 hours! A bit of sleep does wonders...babies had jabs yesterday so slept a bit better. Here's to CP and Baby Wiss sleeping better next week!

redundancies, dh's firm making 600 redundant next month. Not looking good for him. I would like him to train to be a PE teacher. He would love it, but his family are so traditional and really sacrificed a lot to send him to England, so he always feels like he has to chase money and status just to impress them . His bro is a doctor and his other bro an accountant - this is what his parents expect.

I am so out of it, I have never even heard of the killers. There, I have said it!

definately coolkat, or come and join me for lunch

HELLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....

I haven't had hours to read the thread but saw the title and had to upload a pic of my little RED Greta - not sure where it came from but gather there must be a few on here then?

Hello everyone. Think you are all lovely to have kept in contact with each other and see from my quick flick through that everyone has good days and not so good days, life is hard being a mum.

Greta very contented but not sleeping through yet. She just started goind down about 8 this week so hoping we now getting our evenings back. I really have not pushed anything with herand let her do her own thing which has meant we have been chilled with her.

She has had a grunting noise since birth which has been diagnosed recently as trache malacia - a floppy windpie which should fix itself by the time she 2 - anyone heard of this or got any experience?

Sorry to jump in - just wanted to say hi and that am around but just don't have time to keep up.

Am still bf Greta so still don't feel totally back to being 'me' as yet. Tried to get her to take a bottle a couple weeks ago but no luck so may try again soon.

hey roca nice to hear from you. Your children are all stunning! Had a nosey on your profile!

Well Our jumperoo is on order courtesy of my lovely BIL. That's a few of us got them now we should work on commission!

Off to bed, wishing everyone peaceful nights
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thanks chocolategal - if only their behaviour was stunning!

Hey roca, lovely pics - I love the red hair, it's quite dark red isn't it! I know what you mean about behaviour, I see your dd1 just turned 3, my ds1 is 3 and a bit - people say twins must be hard work, but I assure them he is about 4x as much work!!! Where are you in Herts? I grew up in Herts (Hemel) and my parents live in Tring. My Mirissa gets up several times a night still as I am bfing on demand, last night was 3x which is an improvement on the past 2 weeks!

Hey Merry M, your children are totally beutiful.

I was born and bred in Hemel! Now in Kings Langley. I went to Longdean school - where did you go?!!!

My 3yr old is the bane of my life! She is so lovely but is very strong minded and if you were to ask me how my day went it would all depend on whether she decided to play ball or not! She decides whether she happy to get in car or not and where she wants to sit, whether she wants her hair brushed or put up etc etc etc and so my life goes......

Hi Roca, good to see you ... your DC are beautiful!!!

My nephew had a floppy larynx, if that's the same thing and there is someone else on here who's baby has something similar...is it zonedout?

Anyway DN's sorted itself out I think around the age of two. Till it did they had to have him sleeping with a rolled up towel under his neck so that his larynx was open as he'd had some breathing issues. My sis said that the first night they didn't hear his little rattle she woke up in a blind panic, but it had just gone, literally overnight.

Right, DH's friend is here and DH has disappeared into the other room as he is doing something on the pooter, leaving me to be rude by MNetting and holding a conversation with cyberspace while he is trying to talk to me!

Oh my gosh, Roca, I can SO relate. Ds1 is a bit of a control freak. Twins have done his poor little head in, so he chooses to exercise his control in the area of eating, pooing and sleeping. Arghhhhhhhhh. Like you say, day depends on how 'good' he is.

I went to Cavendish! I lived in Woodhall Farm, then near Town Centre, then in Piccotts End. My Dad used to work in Kings Langley! I worked in the Old Bell for a couple of years while at Uni. but we tended to drink down the White 'art and we all had our 18ths 'down The Living Room'. Small world, eh!

I think we are exactly the same age too. I will be 36 in June. Good, you can tell me nice things to do round your way 'cos we stay with parents every holiday and can't fing good stuff to do with ds1.

Hi Roca, good to 'see' you. Your dc are gorgeous!!

Merry, glad you are feeling better.

Monkey- sorry you have been feeeling down. It is hard work. I have have done a similar thing from time to time- carried on trying to keep up with 'normal life' then hit a bit of a wall. Don't worry, just remember to make time for yourself.

I have just spent two hours folding laundry, and it's only half of it!

Immi is finally showing signs of moving- she rolled onto her side today!

RE the 6-12 months vests- she is nearly 5 months old, so it's not soo much of a big deal- DS is a full size ahead all the time- he's been in age 4-5 since hie 3rd bday! I blame DH's influence- he is quite tall.

Well done with the pumping, Daisy! I may have to start practising with mine again at some point, if I'm going to use ebm in her porridge when she starts eating.

gosh pinky, I hadn't thought about what to use for weaning. I'm determined not to use formula at all for bumble. You can use cow's milk in cooking etc, just not as a main drink can't you, after six months?

I hope you're feeling more sorted this weekend. Anytime you want to meet, just shout

I really must get to bed now, bumble is making feed me noises over the baby phone.

hi all - sorry been missing in action for a couple of days. Sometimes days just disappear WHOOP in a cloud of mustard poo and napisan! (and rows with dh, but all better again now)

Just wanted to say thanks for all the lovely words about my dad. We are going to have his ashes committed to sea in May on the anniversary of his death (he was a royal naval chaplain for much of his career) so that will be emotional, but looking forward to it iyswim.

Daisy - at losing your mum (and the rest of you losing parents). Mine is my rock and i cant imagine life without her in it. But love the "lawrence" middle name.
So about ragdale hall.

Merry - you're bound to have heard this killers song on the radio lately
www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6r4KT8-VX0Hope things work out OK for your DH. Would be nice if he could chase his own dream once instead of his parents dream.

monkeym I so know what you mean by feeling like you still want to prove you havent lost the old you - last weekend we had friends for dinner friday, went out watching rugby on sat and had more people for sunday lunch. Guess what? Turned into a nightmare, we were shattered, argued and totally messed up wee T's routine, so it was a lesson learned, but I do need to do something to remind myself I am still me and not just a housework and milking machine.

Was feeling a bit flat today and told DH I needed some things to look forward to so I have (drum roll) plans for me and Wee T to go to scotland to visit mum and brother in a next week and also he told me he is booking us into a nice boutique hotel for the weekend in april just cos, and (3) we have (don;t laugh) tickets to go to the O2 and see the dancing stormtroopers in the Star Wars musical . I have also agreed to do the London Brighton bike ride in June which will at least get me off my stone overweight arse!

Anyway long old post so I will sign off here but before I do, - hana I don't know if you saw that comic relief "lets dance" programme tonight on BBC but zoe ball was on it dressed up as Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction with a wig that was a dark sleek bob with a blunt fringe and it was a great look- think it could really suit you from your pics. Let us know anyway!

Hi Lacks - is there nothing your don't have experience of?! Have you written a book on motherhood yet - you should! Was your DN pretty much ok then apart from his 'condition'? Greta is really well otherwise luckily as I think some children are sick a lot with it and don't therefore put on weight properly. I am waiting to see if she will be referred to ENT, but she is overall totally fine, just noisy and I worry a bit about her catching colds as this may affect her a bit more I think.

Merry - I will be 37 in August so maybe you were to school year below me - am trying think who I may know who went there but don't know too many from Cavandish I don't think. Are we allowed to mention RL names on here?!!!!I used to go down the Living Room all the time too. There is a few ok things to do with kids around here - I often end up at Whipsnade Zoo - Tring Museum is ok too.

Hi back PinkyMinxy.

I am sure you have all discussed this before so apologise for that but just wondered if you had any advice...

I missed the boat with getting Greta to take a bottle in the early days as didn't find a need to, now I want to be able to, just as back up but she ain't playing ball.

Anyone found a magic 'formula' as such - I have tried a few different bottles but it was more stress than worth it in the end so stopped trying after 2 weeks.

Any advice or experiences appreicated.

Saying that, if she now is going down in th evening maybe I can escape for a couple of hours knowing she won't need a feed.

thanks

morning all - guess who's turn it is to get up with the kids

Just wanted to say to monkey and Roca and all other first time mums that are trying to "prove" that things haven't changed......This is almost a rite of passage of motherhood, that you need to go through to then actually realise that life won't be the same again - sorry!!

However, you will have a life back again, just different IYSWIM. I did exactly waht you are all doing, carried on as normal, went out with the girls and got trashed (but soon realised that hangovers and little ones do not go!) it took me a while to accept that, but once you do, you will cruise it!

BC (before Kids) we were out every weekend socialising, lots of weekends away, loads of holidays lots of lie-ins (together, how lovely and a thing of the past now) etc and sometimes, I really, really miss that life. Sometimes, when DS1 and DS2 are palying up, I really wish I didn't have kids and that my life is ruined, to be full of nappies, washing, routine (yes routine forever!!!!!!!!)

I wish that someone had told me BC that I needed to cram as much into my selfish life as possible, as it would be a very long time before I could go on another boozy, ski holiday (just one example). One thing that I didn't realise BC was that you become totally selfless once they are born (and you know what, I liked my selfish life before )

Plus, the responsibility of raising children is immense. It floors you and the love you feel for these little people is indescribable.

Kids also enrich your life in another way - the little smiles, the "i love you to the moon and back" seeing them happy, secure and loved....well, you can have my old life back, as I wouldn't change it for what I have now.

You just need to find "your groove" as a first time family, as of course the dynamics change....it is around the 6 month mark that you accept that your life is going to be different, once you have tried to carry on as life BC!!

Plus, you also need the number of a good babysitter (or in my case, grandchild obsessed parents!!)

So, after my war and peace essay (which I hope makes sense) my only nugget of wisdom, especially to you monkey is don't beat yourself up about it, stop trying to "prove" that you can be supermum (you ARE a super mum) and try and have an interest outside kids (I go to the gym and a book club) plus make the time, to do something just you and DH at least once a month. Then, you can fit in dinner parties, weekends away with friends around all of that.

Hope I am amking sense and not preaching - I don't want it to come across as if I am, but fear I may sound a bit bossy

usual typo's and speling mistakes.....sorry

spelling..........can't even get that right!

Morning Dozy I'm up and my kids aren't even here I'm also still a little bit drunk from last night .
Went to an open mic night at a local pub there was some fantastic talent there. Got very very drunk on pink wine

You don't sound like you are preaching at all, what you have said makes alot of sense.

Roca nice to see you your DCs are gorgeous!

Monkey glad you are feeling better. Who would have thought something that is so natural would be so very hard at times!

Daisy ragdale hall looks lovely!

Hi to everyone else, hope everyone is having a lovely weekend

Hi ladies...
[UmSami shyly pokes head in]
Can I join please...? Hanaflower says it's ok
My dd was born 4/11/08...she was 'supposed' to be an october baby, but she knew better!
I also have a ds born march 06.

Well said Dozy
It has (and still is) taking me time to adjust to first time motherhood. It doesn't help that my five closest girlfriends are all single nevermind wiyh child. I have also struggled with keeping up with everything i used to do around the house but someone said to me a few weeks back 'What are your children going to remember most? - how clean your hose was or how much you used to play with them? This put things in perspective a little and i'v since chilled out a bit if the ironing/hoovering isn't done Also, my house now looks like a creche too anyway

Question regarding weaning. I know the guidelines recommend 26 weeks but why then can shops advertise that their food is suitable from 4 months?

Hi Umsami i think we were on a thread together towards the end eagerly awaiting the arrival of our LO's. Good to see you

Morning everyone
Very wise words dozy have certainly made me feel a bit better.
lola babies can be weaned from 17 weeks, but most HV recommend 6 months. There's been lots of chat about it on here and baby led weaning.

Welcome umsami

Better night here, had the bowl of water and olbas oil in room. Not quite so sniffly this morning but now DS has developed a cough!