December 08 Supermums: We are all doing fine and our LOs love us!!

[kayzr]

Hello.

Trace I went with your idea!!

oh arti that's pants. FWIW once I started the ABs my mastitis felt much better within a day or 2. Hope you get a little rest at some point.

Cat - those side effects sound awful. Could your GP prescribe something different? I'm on citalopram which just gave me a dry mouth and a bit of nausea but I pushed on through and the side effects went after 2 weeks. In pregnancy I was on Fluoxetine and I didn't get any side effects. Not that you shouldn't try the other remedies you mentioned. I hope you find something that works for you. Take care xxx

and yes I think Turnip has gone now to Dublin. Doubt she'll be back before the thread changes...not sure whether it's polite/ appropriate to use that title without her say-so. Would hate to upset her. Hmm. Tricky.

me again. sorry!
I've I'm feeling very fat and ugly today .
My hair is limp and loads falls out in the shower. My face has spots. I'm fed up with wearing jumpers and loads of layers which then make BF more of a pain - roll on sunny weather! I just tried on lots of pairs of jeans in various styles and sizes in Next, Gap and Dorothy Perkins and everything makes me look wrong. I'm too short and tubby. grrrrr.

and I need some advice...
There's a lady in the playground whose daughter is in Lucy's class. They are obviously not too well off - coming to school with worn out shoes and no socks in the snow and other things which would suggest they are not wealthy (I hope that didn't sound snobby or judgmental). Anyway I've been to chatting to the mum quite a bit lately - she coos over Phoebe and I get excited about her big bump...well she had her baby (dd3) a few days ago. I have a load of newborn nappies which Phoebe has grown out of (dh bought enough to clothe a whole city of babies!) so I was going to give them to her. I don't know where she lives so I would have to hand them over in the playground. Do you think this would look like I felt sorry for her/ thought she couldn't afford nappies? I don't think that, and even if someone who was loaded had a newborn I would do the same as they are no use to me, but I don't want to offend/ embarrass her. What do you think?

trace/Turnip - have i missed out? who is nanny anne??? think i must have been fighting with hackers at the time.

cat - you sure you want to stop so soon? thought these things were supposed to help over a cumulative period of time. of course do what you feel is right

kmp - look up petunia picklebottom. i have one of their bags - pricey, but a pressie from friends.

last night was a tale of two feeds and a fight... madam normally goes 7/8 hours for her first night sleep (apols to those with sleeping issues, but remember me during the first 2 weeks?) and then 4 hours until morning. last night she randomly only went 3.5 hours and then again, so we had 2 unexpected feeds. dh made a comment, i tookj it seriously and then he stormed out. this is our 2nd row in 2 days and we normally only have one every couple of months. i think ha is getting frustrated as dd really only wants mummy n(or at least the boobs) and screams at him every eve when he gets home, and both the past 2 times he's tried to put her to sleep (normally he's great at it). he feels so out of it and as though he is disturbing th "idyll" he perceives i have with dd. anyone else having this problem?

also, what are ppl doing about cradle cap? any organic ointments i shd know about?

Hello everyone,

LadyT Your health visitor is an arse! Did you tell her that she was out of order? I'd be tempted to ask for a differnt HV and explain you'd like someone supportive not non judgemental.

Have a lovely weekend in Shrophire. I love Ludlow and all the little places round there.

effie I was given a prescription by a nurse when I went to get DD weighed. DD had a rash similar to the one you describe on her neck and a scabby dry forehead (she's beautiful - honest!) The cream is hydromol emollient. It is very thick and creates a high gloss shine. DH said DD looked like a fat old man who'd spent the evening drinking whiskey and eating pork pies (again - she is lovely to look at!). Her forehead is much better now.

arti Lol at the snappy snaps woman. People like to comment even though the only way to tell a boy from a girl at this age is to look in their nappy. Hope you feel better soon.

trace I think this thread is very educating too!

I'm tempted to book tickets to see an opera written by Rufus Wainwright which is being premiered in Manchester this summer. I know nothing about opera really but do love Rufus.

*Can I just ask a rather question? Are first periods after the birth meant to be hideously painful and heavy? It has calmed down a bit today but yesterday was agony.

Trace I love your suggested thread title.

trace - definitely hand them over. i gave some to turnip at the n london meetup. good idea!

wg - nanny ann is Turnip's mum, who passed away - don't know how recently - but when Turnip says "this too will pass" she is quoting her beloved mum. A few of us said it brings tears to our eyes when we read Nanny Anne's encouraging, gentle words, and someone (was it Zoe?) said she saw Nanny Anne as the Guardian Angel of the thread.

sorry about your rows with DH. He sounds so sensitive - I remember he was quite low initially wasn't he. we have certainly had similar scenarios when only boob or the smell of me will soothe Phoebe, so it seem slike he's not good enough. But there are things which he seems to do better - or at least he's more relaxed about - it was him who told me to finish my tea before I went to settle P last night. Is there anything that DH does really well that can be 'his' thing - could he do her baths? Just so there's a thing that daddy does best and he can feel encouraged by? I think these little beings put a strain on all our relationships. Have you made up or is it still hanging in the air?

jolly - my periods have not come back yet but after dd1 they came back with a vengeance! sorry!

wg, DH has just been away and I think he is a bit miffed that DS isn't over the moon to see him! Quite funny but fortunately he is not too fed up.
In addition DS is quite grumpy at the moment, so it makes it even more clear.
Also he does do the baths and a lot of the changing when he is around and gets him up in the morning (when he is most cheerful so he gets lots of smiles), so something like trace suggests might be good.

See, I can't stay away. But it's lunchtime so I am having a break. I am trying to write an overdue travel piece and it's ten months since I went and I've forgotten everything

Trace, that's a tricky one. Can you phrase it so that you say you would be chucking them away as you have very little space, and as she is the only person you know, you wondered if she would like them? Make it seem like she would be doing you a favour as they are cluttering up your place, and she can keep some dignity then. Can you find some really big bags so it isn't obvious when you hand them over, or offer to drive them round? (Can't remember if you drive). Poor thing. I can't bear to think of the kiddies with broken shoes and no socks. Makes me want to buy them new ones.

Jolly, I just smiled at the HV and said "No, you are quite mistaken. I have always felt relaxed." But it wasn't what I wanted to say. But she is just an irritating woman. I can't change as she is the sole HV round here. I thought periods were supposed to be easier and lighter? But don't let me scare you, I haven't a clue really.

WG, hmm, I think it must be harder for dads when you are bf. DD has been used to DP from the getgo, in fact he did almost all the feeding at first. Er...well, I ca only say that it will be easier when she gets older and is smiling and interacting more with both of you.

Cat, I do see that the strength of these drugs and the side effects may be offputting. Hmm. I am no expert, but now you've got them, maybe see how you feel for a week without them? You can always go back on now they are there.

Arti, I DO hope the ABs work fast, how awful for you.

Sorry cross-posted with lots of you there.

trace I'd just hand them over and explain that P has grown out of them and you've lost the reciept. As long as you do it in a lighthearted way then she shouldn't feel patronised. I think it's a really nice gesture. Ditto what ladyT said about the bags.

Thanks for the period reassurance trace. I'll keep popping the feminax.

DH can feel pushed out sometimes especially when he arrives home late and it is nearly bedtime. DD is always grouchy because she is tired and hungry and all the things that daddy does that usually make her squeal with laughter just makes her scream. Like SL says DD is most cheerful in the mornings so as long as DH has had a cuddle and play in the morning then he doesn't feel rejected when he gets home.

Oh and DH's who press the alarm snooze button. It is so annoying! Why can they not use it once an get up [grrr] DH and I have had massive ding dongs over this!

ladyT What a pain you can't change HV. I'm glad you said something. Apparently periods will get lighter and easier eventually (I've been googling ) but can start off heavier as your body gets into the swing of ov again.

Trace I love the thread name idea. I'm sure Turnip won't mind.

My DH is on death row!!! I made a cake earlier and was just putting the mixture in the tins and DS2 wanted feeding. So DH said he would keep an eye on the cakes and get them out of the oven. BUT HE DIDN'T!!! My ruddy cake is burnt and what a waste of eggs, flour etc!

Also mum is having the boys tomorrow and DH asked if I wanted to go out for lunch! He thought crufts was next week despite it being on the news the past couple of days.

WG - like Summer and JB's partners my DH gets up with Dd2 after her first morning feed. He therefore gets her smiliest moments and I get 40 minutes to sleep/shower etc. Would that be worth a try? I think most babies scream at new faces just before bed. Dd1 hated the smell of dh after his commute but if he changed into home clothes she calmed down.

My Dh doesn't! He will if I ask him but shouldn't have to really!
Just dropped dog at groomers and now having spot of cheerfulness while we wait! ladyt Dh knows your new house area- well Oxford anyway! We use to love going to "The Trout" which isn't far in Wolvercote and we often go when we are out in Henley. Next time we are going out that way ill check if you are around for a spot of cheerfulness! right, best get back to pick up dog before Dh orders more beer

just reading - still a page behind - but wanted to say "yes" that would be so lovely to have Nanny Anne of the next thread title (altho' may confuse people who have been away for a bit ). Thanks Trace

catching up now...

Caught up Trace I second what others say about the nappies etc. I don't think she'd be offended. I wasn't when WG gave me some. I hate waste.

Arti hugs to you you poor thing. Mastitis is a shocker but should resolve quickly. Do you have a hot water bottle you could cuddle up with while DH gets home?

Jolly LOL at the high shine old man look! Yes, alas I found my periods a lot more painful after DC2 for some reason. Not sure why.

WG sorry you and DH had a row. It is tricky when they feel a bit sidelined. There isn't much you can do except try and schedule some daddy/daughter time (and you can have some ME time). How about he takes her out for a coffee on his own during a happy time of the day and you can get a kip/MN/facebook/plan some trips to Lagos (sorry - must have been so horrid to have that happen but your comment about taking a 10 week old to Nigeria did make me chuckly wryly...)

LadyT are you off on the road again, girl? Hope you got the travel piece done.

We aren't off until tomorrow - taxi coming at 7.15 as can't face long stay car park/hauling all five of us on and off the coach hanging about in the cold. We can get the train back on Monday. I am nearly ready (I think!) - checks list obsessively....

Trace I am mucho impressed that you don't drink. You must think that some of us - ie me! - are a pack of old lushes. Hope you get some clothes. I too feel like a lumpy old mare.

KMP glad you are more relaxed re; DS's weight. I think I am too. Although planning on intro'ing one bottle of dairy free formula quite soon as the 6.30 feed as that's the one where I feel she doesn't get quite enough. Will wait til as close to 12 weeks as I can.

Right better scoot. Who is starting new thread? xx

Ow ow ow ow ow!! I got some new make up the other day. I tried it earlier and my face really stings and it is all red.

Love the new thread title

Am trying to catch up, although I'm off out tonight and if I don't get ready soon I'll never get out. Not that it takes me so long but its hard in between feeding Harry and DD trying to eat my Chanel bronzer ....she has done this since she was wee!!!!

Hopefully DS will take the bottle, he seems much better today and DH is feeling positive that he can 'get it down him' My mum is on stand by just in case

Kayz have you got an piriton phenergan or any other antihistamine in the house. If you take that should help. Poor you what with that and Dh burning you lovely cakes...

Daisy really hope you get a good night and that Ds takes that bottle!

I have some piriton syrup for DS1. Will that work?

yes, it will. hope you feel better soon.

New thread started - hope I've done it right

But I can't do link to it

Link for you Daisy