December 08 Supermums: We are all doing fine and our LOs love us!!

[kayzr]

Hello.

Trace I went with your idea!!

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this white noise thing is great - anyone with baby settling issues - if you have a free standing tumble drier, put baby in car seat, dummy in, drier on.... done, baby asleep in seconds.....

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must download that then...

just popping on very briefly but have to say WG - awesome! fantastic sleeping effort, but more importantly, go your DH! We absolutely loved Bleak Expectations here. Particularly fond of Poppy's anvil for making shoes for all the little animals. Pip! papa! poppy! a puppy!

has anyone seen that Cadbury's Dairy Milk advert with the 2 children with crazy dancing eyebrows? It made me laugh out loud!!! How very very odd. It got my attention - not that I need an advert to encourage me to eat chocolate!

Cat - I'd go with normal bedtime whatever has happened in the day. And I'm with you on the farmyard thing - squeaks and grunts abound here...

Also - does anyone else's LO click? When I'm dressing Phoebe I often hear a little click from a wrist or shoulder, like my own do, but I didn't know babies had clicky joints. Or maybe they don't and it's just her!

Yes Trace I have seen it, it is very funny.

Dylan is not a happy chappy tonight, he seems a bit grumpy!!

Argh, DD1 and DD2 are taking it in turns to wake-up in tears. DD1 says there is a fox in her cot and DD2 says "waaa-waaa-waaa". DH is out at the pub and I have no chocolate stocks. Bugger.

Big cheers for for the daytime sleepers and boos to forgetting birthdays. Will keep an eye out for them pesky bears...

I asked DD about the bears, in case toddlers have a special source of information. She said that the bears are NOT coming. She said that they are all in the zoo asleep. Could be just in Hampshire though, so keep up your vigilance .

We must be old hands at this mothering lark now we?re onto our second thread! Great title Trace. And there?ll be a January post natal group appearing soon, so we really will be old hands by then ?

Turnip et al I think DD?s been having a growth spurt too this week as I too have that drunk dry feeling. As I?ve had this dratted cold as well I?m worried that my milk isn?t up to much and definitely not up to a growth spurt, but hopefully it?ll be over soon (the cold and the growing). (And I love Sybils analogy of enlarging the wine glass )

Cat hats off to your for even considering the elimination diet, most of those items are keeping me going right now! I?m not sure how dead set you are on continuing BF (if you are, ignore this), but a friend of mine was prescribed lactose free formula for her LO which proved much easier for her than eating a lactose free diet herself ? worth asking your Dr about if it turns out to be something that would be seriously inconvenient for you to cut out (I?m sure you haven?t the time right now to be reading ingredients lists and cooking everything from scratch). I do hope something proves to make your DS more comfortable

LadyT I love the ?velour is velour? comment ? such a wise man!

Trace I?m like you and look forward to the days when nothing is planned and DD and I can please ourselves ? however if everyday was like that I think I?d be planning things like crazy as I?d start to miss the outside world.

The 90 minute theory also sounds like it fits with the baby whisperer, as well as Gina F, she recommends eating, playing, then sleeping, with the whole cycle lasting about 3 hours ? eating and playing seems to last an hour to an hour and a half in this house too (and closer to 4 hours at night ? on a good night that is) ? Verso, sounds like our DDs have similar body clocks. But based on Daisy?s good luck with it I?m going to try to make sure I stick to it tomorrow to see if it works.

Lal its my birthday this weekend too (well next Wednesday actually, but I?m celebrating this weekend) and I booked the table for tea out, the babysitter, and told him what I wanted for my pressie, which I know he hasn't been to get yet. Maybe you and I should celebrate together and leave our pants husbands to have no fun on their own. (or maybe he?s got you a bear and your DS has ruined the surprise!)

WG hurrah for sleep (and thanks for teaching me another new word ? triptych, to add to my ellipsis ? you learn so much from MN ) And your DD looks so much more grown up then the first pics of her (I guess that?s true for all of us, but you don?t notice it so much on your own when you see her everyday). And Cats DS sleeping too, amazing, there must be something good in the air today!

Arti is your DD1 sure it?s a fox, could be one of those bears?

I took DD to an introductory baby massage today and she loved it. They taught us some super soothing moves (is that the word? ) to help ease colic/trapped wind ? and right on cue DD let out a huge fart and then filled her nappy very loudly minutes later At least it proved the instructor right!

DD is soundly asleep at last, so going to creep into bed myself and hope not to wake her. Night night all

I really am enjoying the foxes and bears. And I wish I had heard Bleak Expectations, it sounds fab. Perhaps it will be repeated on BBC7?

I have a stupid few days ahead. Memorial in London tomorrow with DD in tow. Then back in the evening. The back to London on Saturday morn for a driving refresher lesson, then back in the evening for a dinner party. Then back to London on Sunday morning for more driving, then back Monday evening. And I wonder why I feel a bit hassled all the time and like I am not getting much done! I am DREADING the driving at the weekend. I've forgotten it all and it somehow brings back bad memories of a frustrating period in my life...

KMP, we have this brilliant toy lamb which has within it a soundtrack for soothing babies - you can set it to 'rain', 'ocean', 'stream' or (my least favourite) 'whale'. It was a gift from my SiL in Bermuda but I expect you can get in online. DD doesn't care for it but it calms us down a treat The settings are 25 and 45 mins then it switches itself off so you don't have to get out of bed. We usually have ocean. Stream just makes you want a wee. We have had rain, though, the last couple of nights. DP asked if it was 'Forest Fire' and oddly, now he has said that it sounds just like it. But who would have 'whale'? It's maddening. It just sounds demented.

I never seem to post about my poor DD. She is very long suffering with my endless kissing and cuddling. The sounds she makes are getting more interesting. And tonight she was waving her fingers about like when Ted Rogers used to do '3-2-1'.

Hey all I should either be asleep or studying for me next exam but instead I am catching up. Had a mixed afternoon, we all had a brilliant time sledging. We don't actually have any sledges so we used household items, an old kitty litter tray, the maclarens rain cover (ds2 was a little exposed to the elements but hey ho) and the tray part of ds1s toy wheel barrow. It was sooooo much fun and ds1 is quite a daredevil, he was really throwing himself down the slope. Can hardly wait to get him on a snowboard one day.

I had to come back early for our Ocardo delivery and for some reason just as I got home a migraine started haven't had one for ages. Took every possible pain killer we had and when dh & ds1 got back went upstairs and slept for 2 hours when I woke my head was still a bit sore but felt much better and the boys had been well behaved for dh though poor ds2 was grateful for a boob. I felt quite bad as dh had allocated the afternoon to start writing a paper he is presenting at a conference in a couple of months. Will have to make sure I give him some extra space on the weekend for it.

Hooray WG and I love your DDs bouncer very colourful.

Cat those women are actually quite evil, why are women so mean to each other, and I agree with LadyT our LOs are what they are not by our efforts but through their personalities, and to go with that I hate the work 'difficult' when describing other peoples children. I have known suposed difficult babies to grow up to be quite interesting and lovely kids. Am I making sense it's a bit late.

And MM you just reminded me of a boys name I liked I knew this would happen. I love the name Jesse for a boy. My niece Jessica was to be named Jesse if she was a boy. I have always liked it since then but forgot it when thinking of Jordans name, I knew that would happen one day I would hear a name I liked . Well I do like his Jordan.

I am down 16th-18th though I think I am meeting with friends on the 16th. Would really love to meet up if anyone is around we are staying somewhere near Kings cross so north London is good, or anywhere really as that is quite central for the tube. I still wish we were staying in Greenwich Lal I love staying down there, it is good with ds1 as we are still close to all the old places I used to take him like the docklands museum and mudchute farm.

Right I should really go to bed.

Oh and Kmp dh can't remember how long it took but seems you got that sorted. I didn't get to the post office today to sort out his passport must do that tomorrow. I hoping not to have to go my BfN course tomorrow as it might be cancelled due to snow so will do it then and also want to go sledging with ds1 again. I so wish ds2 was just a little older so he could enjoy it to. We sat him up a bit in his pushchair to watch but he just fell asleep.

Oh and cCat we visit friends in Sweden who had a little girl and they put their babies out to sleep outside rain hail sleet or snow and shine. You walk down the street of neighourhoods with lots of families and every second house a little pram out the front with a sleeping baby in it.

Just popping on while I have a decaff tea and prepare for the early morning shift... DH kindly offered to take over until 2am, so I've been in bed since 7pm Unfortunately, even with ear plugs in I heard DD2's screams at midnight, and again just now - but at least I finally got some sleep in the early part of the night. Must be the bears keeping DD2 up .

You're all completely potty, btw, but I do love the variety on this thread! Finally got a chance to read it properly, sans infant attached to nork. What can I remember? Not much: whale song, screaming abdabs, wine glasses and baby massage. Perhaps a thread title for next time?!

Not sure what to expect the rest of the night. I think DH has had a rather "challenging" (cf "unsettled") time of it so I expect I'll have the same.

Also wanted to say to whoever recommended "Babyproofing your marriage" that it is a fabulous book and I wish I'd had it when we had DD1. Well, actually I wish I'd written it and was a millionaire and could have a full-time nanny, housekeeper, personal stylist etc, but you know what I mean!

Morning,

Hope you all had good nights.

I'm up extra early for my 7am GP appointment. What an awful time for GP appointment. So DH and the boys are still in bed and I'm sure they will still be there when I get home!!

Morning lovely ladies

Haven't had a chance to read the thread yet, as 2 marvellous things got in the way

1. A friend turned up for a playdate yesterday afternooon with a bottle of wine so we got happily sloshed while the children played. Our relaxed mood clearly reflected on them as they all played without fighting, pushing, hitting etc and even SHARED.

1. Possibly due to 1, M fed a lot in the evening but then slept from 12.30 til 6.30. Woo hoo! I appreciate this is a one off and I may well pay for it but I feel very happy now. I have of course got the 12 week growth spurt to come....

Off to have a bath and ready the troops for preschool. Will be back on for a proper catch up later.

Morning lovely ladies

Haven't had a chance to read the thread yet, as 2 marvellous things got in the way

1. A friend turned up for a playdate yesterday afternooon with a bottle of wine so we got happily sloshed while the children played. Our relaxed mood clearly reflected on them as they all played without fighting, pushing, hitting etc and even SHARED.

1. Possibly due to 1, M fed a lot in the evening but then slept from 12.30 til 6.30. Woo hoo! I appreciate this is a one off and I may well pay for it but I feel very happy now. I have of course got the 12 week growth spurt to come....

Off to have a bath and ready the troops for preschool. Will be back on for a proper catch up later.

Finally got back to you all, what a busy few days we have had.

But back to you lot. Glad to hear some of our cherubs are sleeping a bit more during the day I too have been doing 90min thing and I feel I am learning L's sleep cues better so rather than just shoving him on the boob been putting him down instead.

Lal seriously sometimes the only word to describe Dp/H's around gift giving time is twonks. My DP manages most of the time to get it right but always with his own slant on things.

LadyT am loving your DP and his little sayings I have a cashmere juicy tracksuit which DP laughs at whenever i put it on.Only round the house mind you I do live in Essex.

PD its me that lives near Colchester finally I can have my own East Anglian meet up.

Verso Cat is it getting easier sounds like you are both coping amazingly well.

Vegie hope you are feeling better this morning.

Kayz what a ridicularse time for an app.

Will try upload some snowy photos later and i managed to get one of DS2 smiling yesterday I do think he eventually smiled for me just to get me out of his face with the camera.

Have a good day all the snow is hammering down here again.

I have torn my cruciate ligament again, in both knees this time though. It bloody hurts. He is sending me for an X-ray just incase it is something else. He says it is probably due to them still being soft due to the pregnancy.

That sounds SO painful! How long does it take to heal? Sounds dreadful - you have my sympathy.

Can't believe I've been whingeing about DH when some of you lot have DP/DH's who don't do birthdays. I suppose they are all good at some things, eh? I have to say I feel a lot more positive today generally after a five-hour block of sleep - probably one of the best presents he's ever given me!

Jam DD2 is easyish most of the time - just these growth spurts knock me for six. Last night was much better (partly because I only did half of it! ) - she only woke three times, and settled again really quickly each time. She also seems to be reasonably chilled out this morning as well (famous last words).

Sybil - your friend has style!

Only about 3 weeks but they hurt and I can't really bend them.

Trace - i've seen that add - but at first it just irritated me - must be just me !
Arti Hilarious - ow foxes! Nolda I love your LO's sensible take on it all! (in the zoo! ) Oh dear - all this toddler stuff to look forward to!
LadyT sounds like you never stop! Hilarious what your DP said about the velour! my DP said the exact same thing! I've had this Juicy pair for about 5 years and they are so comfy, but once my DH said I was straight off the set of "Kath & Kim" ! They are really worn out now, and I don't think i'll be replacing them with any brand of velour!
Sybil - very at you having a friend turn up with a bottle of wine!!
Kayz hope your knee's recover soon...
Well I've always been a night person, but i'm in this pattern now of not putting him down in the cot until 1130-12 when I go to bed - is that bad? He stays out with us and the telly and often sleeps while we are having dinner etc, but should I be getting him into the habit of being in the cot earlier? I'm not sure as I def don't want to do the miracle swaddling straight jacket thing before 1130-ish as it's a bugger to change him, but i'm thinking he should be in the cot earlier ?? Thoughts? Am I encouraging him to want to stay up late when he is a bit bigger?

ouch kayz that sounds painful! You won't need surgery will you? I know a couple of people who have had to have surgery and its been really painful afterwards. Sorry that probably doesn't cheer you up.

wg lovely pics

lal hilarious about the bears, I'm keeping an eye open but so far no sightings up north. Although it does sound like a plot for an M. Night Shalyman film.

DS settled 8.30 till 3 last night so good. But then for some reason wanted a feed again at 4.30. But still not a bad night at all.

Got my mum babysitting for us on Valentines Night as its DH's birthday. Am looking forward to a proper night out, it would be romantic but we are meeting friends. Should be a bloody good night, lets hope DS keeps being a good boy.

Off to visit MIL today, which will be dull, dull, dull. But if I didn't visit she would never come here and then DH gets mad with her. So I take the kids to keep the peace {{cue saintly-type emotion}}.

Hoping you've all had good nights and a good day is ahead.

I hope not Daisy. He did say that if it was something else I may need physio.