December 08 Supermums: We are all doing fine and our LOs love us!!

[kayzr]

Hello.

Trace I went with your idea!!

Cat I find a big dose of either gripe water or dentinox colic drops right after or during the feed will usually make him burp when sat upright in his straight jacket! But to be honest I don't always burp him very much after the last feed for fear of waking him as he wants to party then...

Trace also - my 6 weeks check was a joke - bit of stomach prodding and that was it - it was more of a frou frou how are you emotionally type appointment - then said "don't do massive amounts of crunches until 3 months" - big !!! Damn!! So I acted all dissapointed like I was some sort of athlete and left - it was all of 5 minutes!

I haven't been posting much lately as I never seem to have any time to myself. By the time I finish reading thethread one if the DC's is inevitably shouting! Also, I'm rubbish at personals as I can never remember who said/ asked what, but...
Trace, definitely complain, it's pretty important that your new baby gets checked and vaccinated asap so they should be more on the ball. We only got our letter this week and L is now 9 weeks, so lucky I took it upon myself to book.
DD has been sleeping in her own room for 3 weeks now and DS was in his own room from 2 weeks. It does stop me fromreacting to every little noise she makes, and I always hear her cry,althoughit can takea few minutes to penetrate my sleep deprived brain.
Routine wise, we seem to be getting into some sort of routine. Although the nightime routine only seems to work every third night:
Bath with big brother at 7pm, baby massage and into sleepsuit. Feed at 7.30-8pm, minimal winding and into cot. Dreamfeed no later than 11pm (Baby Whisperer advice) then she usually sleeps until 4am, another feed at 7am. However on the bad nights, she stays awake until about 10 so we drop the dream feed and she then wakes at 1, 4 and 7ish.
I am stuck at home with no car and both dc's today, and going a bit stir crazy. Insurance won't send money until end of next week for the car and I doubt that we'll get much for it anyway. So it looks like we'll have to buy it on a credit card which means going to a dealer, therefore more expensive. The annoying thing is that my Dad has just sold a cottage on his farm and as a shareholder I will get dividends, but it could take a bit of time bacause of all the other shareholders involved. Because we live in such a remote area with very little public transport I can't really wait and need a car now, so annoying.
Is anyone else getting a bit fed up with the snow? Grump, grump.

DS been in his own room from about 5 weeks too. Now in big cotbed & gro bag too.

trace complain!! I had similar problems sorting out DS 8 week jabs/check/my 6 week check. Had a rant at receptionist and it got sorted.

PS I'm on MIL laptop, bored silly here but told her I needed to to some internet banking while she gazes adoringly at DS DD is helping herself to the contents of the fridge...I really am a shocking mother

Hello! I, like Katie, seem to manage to read but not really post! Just want you to know that I am still here!
Katie - that sounds like a nightmare with lack of car. I live in a town with good links and easy walking access to lots of stuff but would still feel stranded without my car.
Had a lazyish morning in today. A friend was supposed to come round with her little boy but cancelled last minute. DS is actually pretty happy to stay in as he plays so nicely with all his toys but I get a bit stir crazy. Spent the morning sorting out his toybox (well, one of them...the boy is drowning in toys). He has now gone down for his nap and Heidi is laying in her new playmat with toy arch and enjoying it greatly! Peace reigns(sp??)..for now!

Hi all,
More snow here, very exciting! Forced myself to go out to NCT coffee morning thing despite snow just to get out of the house, glad I did.

Re sleeping locations, DS does still sleep in our room. I am good at sleeping through his little noises though. Am wondering whether to bring cot in when gets too big for moses basket though, or just put him in his room. (Trace he also sleeps on his front. I know this is not recommended but we tried and tried to get him to sleep on his back and he will not. Now if we want to wake him up, all we have to do is put him on his back, and within the next 15 mins he wakes up!)

kmp I would've thought your current routine sounds fine, if it suits you. I like having DS asleep upstairs so we can chill out downstairs and have a proper evening (so I hope it keeps working!)

trace I would probably not get round to complaining cos I am lazy but nonetheless that is the sort of thing that would really p* me off. Especially when they tell you "not to phone again", how annoying is that?

katie v annoying about the car!

kayz sorry about your cruiciate ligament, that can be a bugger to heal, so hope it gets better soon.

Just have to share this with you... I am trying to send off Lily's passport application but can't find her birth certificate anywhere, which I know I put in a 'very safe place' at the weekend, but have just found a full packet of fishfingers in DS's toybox, I truly am going insane!

katie!!!!!

katie - with you on "safe" places for putting things. whenever i lose something dh asks me if i piut it in a "safe place". if i say yes, he exclaims "oh no!"

kmp - yes, similar routines in a way. would like to try and shift the timings, but we do get an evening to ourselves at home and baby monitor works a treat (tomy classic or premier or at least the one with teh in built temperature sensor - would recommend it) - i un-miracle blanket dd every time i feed - it's not that much of a hassle once you get used to doing it in your sleep.

jolly - ! re: your alarm clock faux pas!

cat - you're having a hell of a time - hang on in there, missus.

ps - after much grizzling dd has GONE TO SLEEP IN HER MOSES BASKET AGAIN!!!!! just in time for a friend to visit with a noisy toddler - arse.

oh bloody hell, she's grizzling. i spoke too soon...

hubris. that's what it is. pure hubris.

You know you've been away too long when everyone buggers off to a new thread and clocks up 135 messages!

Have been lurking a little but not really posting which is very daft. Have posted a little on my other post natal group but been having a bit of a rough time. Of course keeping away is not the way to deal with it since all you lot are going through the same thing but I never said I was logical

Anyway, the past few days have been better. I've been spending a lot of time in tears, snapping and yelling at dh and getting very annoyed at dd when she wakes at night and at ds for wanting attention. (yes the HV has been keeping an eye on me). There was a point when I just had no desire to meet dd's needs at all, just felt like a chore. Anyway we seemed to turn a corner the other night. The poor girl still has a really bad cold and was so bad with it I spent most of the night sitting upright with her against my chest as she slept and fussed on and off. It felt wondereful, there was nowhere else I wanted to be. Since then things have been much more positive

So.....thhis magic 90 min thing you all seem to be doing. Is there more to it than making sure they nap after being awake for 90 mins? Or is there a specific nap length too? Dd is gently falling into a bit of a routine in the day but of course it can't be strict at all as we go out and about a lot with ds. She often sleeps a lot in the morning, packs in feeds between 11 and 2 ish then has a long nap. We have trouble with getting her off in the evening though, she has a bath with ds at 6.30 but I can't seem to get feed/nap timings right and she is always either overtired or not hungry or something. Must persist though. She is not even 7 weeks yet bless her so still plenty of time. Would be nice to have evenings again though! Other than that she is doing pretty well at night and only feeding a couple of times, still needs resettling a bit in between but it takes a fraction of the time it used to.

Kayz sorry about your knees. Dh ruptured his cruciate a while back playing rugby, it has totally torn through. He has tried physio but still has trouble with it so he is now down to have reconstructive surgery in June.

Cat I find one of the best ways to wind dd is to have her upright against my chest and hold her tight. When I feel her tummy gurgle give a little squeeze and up it comes (discovered when putting her in a slightly too tight wrap sling after a feed without a burp as we were in a hurry!). That would work in a swaddle.

Off to run the bath. Dd decided she wanted to feed 15 mins ago and is getting sick of my little finger but hoping that since she woke from a nap about 30 mins ago I may have her at the right level of tired and hungry tonight!

ooh i'm excited! i emailed the local nct because they have a bra advisor/ fitter person and my nursing bras are driving me mad and not fitting properly...she just rang and said i can go over to her house tonight to get fitted and choose a posh new bra! am going to go over when the dds are both in bed (fairly soon in theory!)Phoebe will hopefully sleep in my absence and am feeding her now but there is a bottle of ebm in the fridge if needed...this is my first night out!!

indith - poor you. glad things are going better for you and that you sound like you are very in tune with your emotions and feelings - glad to hear you have turned a corner - that night sounds lovely.

dd's poos are still very vinegary smelling - at least they are back to yellow, but a bit runny and vinegary. anyone have the same???

Enjoy your night out Trace. DH is taking us to the pub as we've been stuck at home all day.

Right can't remember much of what I wanted to say except, Trace def complain I think your gp surgery could win an award for most crap clinic, have no idea why a baby can't have it's imms when it hasn't had 6 week check, esp these days when they are trying for better uptake rates.

Kayz how did you do your crutiat was it on the way to that rediculously early gp app.

My migraine is all better thanks for asking (not sure whi it was) just feel a bit washed out today, not sure why I got it maybe all the excitement of the snow, or day before I got a little emotional about something but didn't let it out really and often that can set off a migraine for me. So Trace it is best to get teary when your angry. I know what you mean though because instead of getting your point accross the person just thinks your an emotional new mother.

I'm feeling quite shattered I had my breast feeding helpers group today and the drive always wears me out then a friend came over with her kids and then her dh turned up too. It was around tea time so I could the bigger boys tea, but it was all a bit much when I was tired and I got a bit stressed as everyone was talking and the boys were fighting and I'm sure ds2 picked up on my stress as he hot quite fussy and upset I managed to calm him with a bath but then something set him off again and he really squealed and I couldn't get him to drink. In the end I layed back and layer him down on my tummy and met him find the breast and drink when he fancied it. It was really good for the both of us I think we just layer there nice and relaxed and kind of reconnected. I think next week I might forgo some meet ups to just spend sometime with him. Dh will be away so in the mornings we can just chill out together, and let the cleaning go if we need to. I have an exam Monday but after that we can chill.

The 16th is a Monday, is it possible to meet up on the Tuesday, if not Monday is fine. Where in Finsbury park is the pizza place (omg I'm salivating about the thought of pizza. What time? Are we thinking lunch? Do we need to book? Does 12 o'clock seem ok if it is lunch?

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well I'm back...an hour out of my house without Phoebe and I come back £62 lighter!!!! I've got 2 really comfy Bravado bras though - and one of them is like a vest top thing and is soooooooooooooo soft I feel naked!

Veggie - glad you're feeling better. Your day sounds very tiring - hope you get a good night's sleep xxx

Indith - good to hear from you again. Sorry you've been through it...hope you are soon feeling back to yourself.

Katie - enjoy the pub!

oh cat sorry x-post.
I wish I was nearer and could come and give you a hug and take precious T and let him scream on my un-emotionally-attached ears for a little while and give you and your DH a break. keep talking to us and being honest with how you're feeling...think of Turnip...this too will pass.

cat - do you think he's poorly? He doesn't have a rash or anything does he?

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oh, cat, hang on in there... thinking of you.

trace v jealous of your bras - i may try doing the same

re: north london meet up - i think 12 on tues 17th at finsbury park sounds good. EP suggested somewhere - let's wait for her to confirm. shall i start a thread on meet ups (makes me feel v grand)?

north london meet up

hope that works

cat I have texted you my love. I am thinking of you. I don't know how you do it. Let me know what I can do.

Trace well done you on the lovely bras. You're worth it (as Jennifer would say)!!

WG like your description of your nighttime routine. I am such a fan of the Baby's White noise cd. Like ladyT mentioned though the running water one plays havoc with my already compromised pelvic floor so I avoid that one. The pizza place is in Blackstock Rd that Effie suggested and I second that. Will find the name if you start the meet up thread.

Kayz ouch you poor thing!! Hope it heals well.

Veggie lets go for the tuesday for the meetup would be great to see you! and everyone else who can make it.

I saw this amazing prog last night on BBC3 called Teen Mum High - despite the shock title it was a really moving doc about a school for teen mums in Stockport. There was a 13 year old !!! who fought to have a homebirth (she is classed high risk due to age) and she had a waterbirth with her mum, grandma and great grandma there (so FIVE generations!) and about 6 other random women all squeexed into her front room (all puffing away on fags). It was so moving though - her Mum has in the pool with her. One of the women there did point out it was like an episode of Shameless - but still, it really was quite extraordinary.

I want to listen to Bleak Expectations!! I looked it up on wikipeadia and the names are fantastic!! WG must borrow some tapes if I can.

Cat I'm really sorry it's bad tonight. Am sure nothing makes you feel much better - but Trace is right - it's been bad before and got better - it will be better than this again.
Wish there was something we could do to help.

Kayz your knee sounds really painful - hope it heals soon.

Veggie sounds like a v good plan to spend more time relaxing. Your description of your time with DS2 is so lovely.

Wg I can't believe I forgot to post this earlier. Am so impressed your DH wrote Bleak Expectations. Such good news that there will be a 3rd series apart from anything else. Is tea-snortingly funny - he's a very clever man.

Hope everyone has good nights.

Cat I feel so helpless knowing you have got this to deal with I wish I could help.

Yet again I'm up late really should be in bed right I'm going now.

CAT how was last night, I really hope you got some sleep.

Our night was absolute poo. Lachie woke at 2 and didnt go back to sleep until 5.30!

Have a lovely wkend everyone.