June 2008 babies: rolling, sitting, crawling, babbling, teething, laughing, sleeping (not yet!)

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New home!

HH, no periods is OK but that is why I had to take Clomid and got the twins so would really like my periods to come back on their own!!!

Glad you're feeling a little brighter now, and you're not being selfish, you're bound to feel sad about your Nan.

Thanks Deb, it is confusing cos I have never had much death in my life so I don't really understand my emotions at the moment (poss a bit hormonal as well!). The only other person in my life who has died is my other gran but she was 93 and went quite happily (iyswim). I never thought I would react like this, but I suppose it is different when someone is suffering, it is bound to be very hard.

Thinking of you Neenz. I'm sorry you've got this to cope with.

I've not been using Facebook for ages - not had email properly since Thea was born so very out of date with it. You and I must meet up though - we live so close to each other.

I was thinking of you the other day when I saw an acquaintance of mine who has boy/girl twins. The twins are about 2, I think, and when I saw her she had a double baby buggy. She has just had another set of twins . Made my struggles to cope with 4 children look rather feeble!

Deb - are you feeling better?

HH - sorry you're so down about work.

I'm hosting an NCT coffee morning in a few weeks and thinking about it made me realise what a tip our house is. Some friends called round unexpectedly earlier this evening and the hall was full of laundry, shoes etc and just looks so unwelcoming. So I've got the hypers and instead of sleeping I'm faffing around with heaps of papers.

I could come to your coffee morning maybe Rolf?

Another set of twins . Dont even joke about it. And i think having four kids even if none are twins is very impressive!

That's a great idea . I'll text you the details. I haven't done one before - I did NCT coffee mornings before we moved up here but that's quite a while ago.

Great - I have my FIL's sat nav so will easy find you (if I don;t recognise the street name anyway)

Hi all, neenz, sorry about your nan. Good that you're looking to get paliative care sorted. When mil was ill, her parents found it so hard to accept, and couldn't consider paliative care, as to them it meant giving up. Unfortunately, it meant mil died in a grotty hospital instad of being moved to a loving and comfortable hospice. Of course you're going to feel sad.

HH - sorry work is so crap for you. Good luck with ttc. I've got 17 month age gap bwn ds1 & 2. Looking back it was really hard work, but at the time I can honestly say I didn't really register that or feel it, you just get on with it, don't you. But it is a great gap, and my 2 boys are so close. They are into the same things, can go to the same kids club, or in the same class at ski school etc, they can do stuff together.
When we had ds3, we really wanted also a similarly small gap so he could also have a close sibling, and have 2 x 2 iyswim. Unfortunately, it didn't happen & we had to wait 4.5 years for dd to finally show up - we'd given up! Nowt we could've done about it, but I always wished I had got that small gap again, so what I'm trying to say is, good luck, it's a great gap and worth it

Deb, hope knockers getting better

It's a miracle - Ethan fed at midnight then I woke with the alarm at 6.45 and he was still in his cot asleep AND I am not so red and not so sore, in fact I'd go as far as saying I feel human again.

Thanks for the well wishes Rolf and Ernest.

Rolf - good luck with the tidying, the coffee morning has given you the motivation!

ernest - I'm sorry you didn't get the small gap that worked well for you first time. I understand now why Adele is your precious last baby like Ethan is ours.

yup, def plb

morning ernest - boys gone to school?

in 10-15 minutes, should be shot of dh too by then. yours?

Well done Deb - DH is practising getting DD dressed as I am off to Oxford later on this morning.

DS stayed up until 10 last night, I gave him some pasta at lunchtime, didn't think and it had milk in it so he was very uncomfortabl;e and farting like a trooper and turned into a bit of a party animal.

Neenz don't mean to worry you but my SIL knows someone who had a singleton, then twins and then triplets so ended up with 6 children under 4.

[whispers to HH: I am on the Bonkers Anonymous thread They all seem pretty nice and many of them have stuck around post-baby which I take as a good sign. Like you, we are hoping for a smallish age gap.

Hard to imagine that Neenz and I met on Clomid thread....I'm of your lack of periods too, as mine ame back month two when I was BFing. Bang bang bang three months in a row and I thought all my problems were solved (Clomid needed for PCOS and 122 day cycles.) Since then I've had one....so looks like the whole baby thing didn't solve my problem. Have already been back to the doc: if you have to have been trying for a year before getting help, they need to know when the year started!! Although I do have six months supply of Clomid in the cupboard as I filled my prescription the week I found out I was pregnant.

Sorry- got carried away. Am praying for your nan.

Have to dig the car out today to drive to NCT thing- eek. DH helpfully in Peterborough on a trial.

Babypearls clapping at BBC breakfast news

Forgot to say hello to foreigners

and x-posted with Five....Has the triplet person gone mad yet? On the plus side, at least she didn't get Octuplets!!

Hedgehog it is tough being back at work - but once you're in a routine it'll be easier. It doesn't mean it'll be great - I'm putting in my part time request this month, I found full time really tiring last time I was back, but it is okay.

neenz part of motherhood is dull and repetitive and difficult, especially when they are this age. I feel down sometimes too, I think it's so normal. But ridiculous as I've never been happier.

On the other hand, children are very umm, interesting. Duncan is running around the house kissing his father's shoes (DH is at work but as usual has left his shoes lying around). And we had our first embarassing conversation in public the other day:

at a National Trust cafe with Fraser's godparents, Duncan points at F's godmother.
"that one doesn't have a penis"
points to Fraser's godfather
"that one has a penis"
gets on a roll
"Mummy doesn't have a penis, Duncan has a penis, Fraser has a penis"
we're all giggling
"Daddy has a big penis"
cue hysterical laughter (not limited to our table).

I so wish I could post that on our website but I think the 10 year old Duncan would never forgive me...

oh and neenz, I'm sorry about your Nana, it's always hard with people we love!

No period yet here either, but I'm very irregular and had to do the whole temperature/cervical fluid thing to get pregnant with my boys (and was so relieved that's all we needed to do - we'd been told to expect problems so we feel very lucky). We're not planning another kid though so I'm in no rush for my period to reappear!

Abdn - that is sooo funny

at 6 children under 4

Five - have a lovely child free, cleaning, cooking free time in Oxford

ab - what is it with boys?! I had almost exact convo with 1 of my ds, mixed with a bit of sympathy, "I've got a willy, daddy's got a willy, grandad's got a willy. Poor mummy's got no willy!"

Now my nephew is a grand master at playing willy guitar

Ernest - v similar experience re age gaps. I love the 17m gap between the boys.

ditto re willy convo!

5, was that lady with the 6 kids a GP? I remember reading about her in the papers.

Neenz really sorry to hear about your gran .

tee hee - at the moment we are getting 'Daddy, you've got no boobs!' so the willy conversation can't be far behind! abdn you had me crying laughing too!

so far the Mirena's doing a good job keeping my periods away, I had v. few while on minipill pre-ttc either, hoping this will continue!

That's great Systems - I bled for about 5 months when going on the Mirena and then nothing

Just fished the 1st lego brick from ethan's mouth!

It's all happening at once isn't it - I just had to retrieve a (very soggy) small jigsaw pice from Adele's mouth earlier. This is going to be fun. No way will I be able to persuade my urchins dss to keep their stuff tidier, I'm just going to have to go for total segregation for the next year or so.

What age can you stop worrying about them putting bit in mouth and ckoking - 15 months? 18? 24? Totally forgotten