June 2008 babies: rolling, sitting, crawling, babbling, teething, laughing, sleeping (not yet!)

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New home!

Oh that is cute Sybil! Have you tried potato or sweet potato with the broccoli? That is a bit more calorific and filling.

Sponge, I know loads of people who still give their LOs bottles in the night/early hours to get them back to sleep. My sis gets up with her DD (nearly 2yo) at 5.30am rather than make a bottle and all her mates are like 'just give her a bottle and get her back to sleep!' but sis seems to think that doing that will encourage her to wake earlier and earlier. I say try it and see if it works!

sponge I'm definitely still feeding at night and expect I'll have to for ages still. With DS1 we tried cutting back the amount we fed him when he was 9 months and found that if he had less than 8 minutes of feeding time (he was BF so it was the only way to tell), he would wake up crying before morning. Since he was actually hungry, I didn't mind feeding him. When he was 11 months that morning feed had been pushed back to 5am and I was too lazy to get up anymore so DH started going in and giving DS1 a banana (because it was easy to eat and we could leave it outside the door all night). He would scoff it down and then fall back asleep in about two minutes flat! If they're hungry, they're hungry!

and sorry to hear about your friend, what a horrible thing to happen to her family! Her poor kids!

5 hugs! hope your LO feels better tomorrow!

DS managed to throw up water and milk earlier but has just drunk 60,ls of milk and kept it down, so think we are on the mend, his temp has gone down and he is a bit happier.

Five - glad to hear S is over the worst, sounds like he was a really poorly baby earlier on.

Sponge - I got all tearful over your poor friend and her young family

Amber - you're not a loser for missing his gummy grin - when I look at Ethan with his teeth (6!!!), it makes me want to pause time for a while - it's going way too fast.

off ot bed, night all, sorry if I missed you out

Thanks Sponge - she is coming on leaps and bounds intellectually but not physically apparently i was the same though!

Ok BDQ - last week feb we have half term ill get them and post them then

Neenz - have reskimmed sorry bout your nan xxx

Hiya deb - yep you got it right! We are leaving 1st week of July and going to Holland, searching for a place getting a feeler etc then on the sat b4 wedding we are going to england for a week for wedding then back to Holland for a new life!! We decided that if we were going to do it we might as well do the whole shebang!!! Staying here any longer will just be worse in long run

Sleeping and feeding at night, we keep the dream feed at the moment for this reeason ok some days she doesnt take much but if we eliminate it we are up all night and cause dp doesnt go to bed b4 11pm then he always does it. so she sleeps through til 6am sometimes stirring at 4.30am sometimes not

Cancer is soooo awful really feel for anyone going through any part of it sufferer relative etc. We had such a hard time with dps mum last year

Still feeding at night here too - but have dropped the dream feed.

Can I be self-centred and panicky for a mo? All this talk of Jade Goody...I had my smear results today and it's abnormal. It says go back in six months. Should I just do what they say, or insist on another one?
I would have done as it said without a second thought it if it wasn't the whole Jade thing in the news...

Essie don't panic. I had the same result when I was in my early twenties. I was spooked and went to my GP about it. He reassured me and then I had smear tests every 6 months for about 2 years IIRC. I would go and see your GP about the letter though to put your mind at rest and ask any questions that you may have.

I feel weirdly depressed about Jade Goody. I avidly watched the series of BB that she was first in and it seems slightly unfathomable that this is happening to her especially as she is so young.

P's woken. Gotta go. We are still feeding at night here and I think we will be for sometime yet.

Thanks, Ali, will go to see my GP. Was hyperventilating for a bit there. I did wonder whether it was anything to do with having a baby because frankly my cervix hasn't seen quite so much action.

It is sad about Jade because of her age, but also because she's not nasty. She did silly things, but out of stupidity (bless her) not malice, and I think that's why it's sad. And also her children. I'm really upset by it and I have never really taken any interest in her.

Essie - like ali said, go to your GP to put your mind at rest.

Essie, if they've not called you back for six months then that is almost certainly nothing to worry about but your GP is not going to mind a chat to reassure you - esp in the light of JG's news. KWYM about Jade - she's not the sharpest tool in the box and alot of people have made alot of money out of exploiting her. She hasn't done badly financially as well of course, but she was hung out to dry after the BB affair.

It just makes you realise how fragile life is. Carpe diem.

Sorry for the depressing start to my post . On a lighter note sleep was much better last night - he slept til 4.00am, dh fed him then slept through til 6.30am, came into our bed then slept again til 8.30am.

On the subject of mornings, do people have a set get up time? I'm wondering whether I shouldn't start getting Alex into a routine of getting up at 7.00am every morning - do you think it would help his sleep? Mornings are very variable so we have no set routine - yesterday he got up at 7am, and then had a nap from 9am til 10am no problem.

Anyway, I am now temporarily leaving the sanctuary of this thread to go and ask a question about flexitots - Alex's smell soooo badly they make me heave!

Nappy thread:

smelly nappies!

Do feel free to offer suggestions those of you who use cloth!

Morning all, one bout of projectile vomiting at 2 but otherwise hink we are on the mend. Still on very small feeds but anything over 100 mls he brings back up.

Amber how is Luke?

Sponge I think a regular get up time is meant to be a good idea, but I struggle to execute this as:

1. Mostly P wakes earlier than this an often won't go back to sleep, we are already out of synch before 7
2. I am tired and if he does sleep longer then there is an overwhelming temptation to stay in bed as long as possible.
3. At weekends if DH gets up with P to give me a lie in non of the routiney things happen (like breakfast) cos DH doesn't eat breakfast himself so doesn't bother with P.

After yesterday's improved health but general grumpiness P is much more himself. Lots of cosleeping helps too at the moment.

5 pleased to hear you have a healthier baby too.

Thanks for all the comments about stopping BF. I think I worded the preface for ffers wrongly. What I wanted to avoid was sounding like was: "I find bf soooo easy, I don't think I can stop". 5 I saw your post before you withdrew it, sorry that what I wrote grated. Hope the above makes sense. I understand that you pro-actively chose to ff and can see how what I wrote was presumptious.

We had a nice Valentine's evening. Roast beef dinner and DH bought me "Sex and the City" the film on DVD.

Ali sorry it sounded sharp. Glad you ahd a nice evening yesterday.

quick post but sorry to all of those with poorly babies and hope they're on the mend. Also hope that sleeping easiing up a little for you sponge essieI've had that kind of recall before -if asking you back in six months its prob lowest level of change and they want to be sure (had this about 4 times and 2 sets of treatment and its been all clear recently). I agree its very very sad re jade - sad for her children, sad for anyone so young esp someone who has had such a tough life in many ways.
lots of rolling action here but we're not up to alex'commando standard yet.

sponge - we have a set time here (although it is flexible to a degree) and get up around 7am. Does Alex have a set bedtime. I'm a routine fan and I think set bed/awake times are generally helpful for sleep although we dont follow ours too rigidly.

Not that S paid attention - I've been awake since 4am and need to do a late night on my assignment

poppy, lol at Alex's "commando standard"! Someone told me the other day that it wasn't "proper" crawling! Don't you just love competitive parenting?!

BDQ, yes he goes to bed at 7pm every night (give or take) and has done since he was a few weeks old. I agree with you on set bedtimes and think I do need to start instigating set wake times. In fact all the sleep experts will tell you that all of us should have set bedtime and wake times every day - including weekends, for the optimum sleep. So maybe it'll help me too? !!

PILs up visiting at the moment - MIL is sat in the conservatory reading the paper while Alex is playing in the lounge . Anyone else think that's weird?!!

I cant wait to ditch S for an overnighter and get a lie in - my set wake times every day make me feel feckin awful .

It is a bit wierd re MIL - isn't she always a bit wierd though?

Scrap that theory then BDQ!!

Yes, bloody weird IMO!

Essie, I had an abnormal smear in my 20s too - often they just don't have enough cells to do a proper check so it is not that there is anything wrong, its just that they can't give you a full OK IYKWIM. But I would insist on another smear right now, it can't hurt and it will put your mind at rest. Don;t take no for an answer (I don;t think you would )

Sponge, we get up at 7.30 but sometimes 8 at the weekends. I think it is good to have a set wake-up time but 30 mins either side is OK. The DTs get up at 7.30, have a 30min nap at 10 then a two-hour nap at 12.30 then bed at 7pm. I have just spent an hour trying to get Theo to sleep cos DH let him sleep till 3.15pm today (I was in bed myself) so that sort of thing can definitely affect night time sleep. Glad last night was better. T woke up at 11, 12 and 1 last night . Gave him Calpol then he slept till 8. E woke at 4am so not a great night for me hence the afternoon nap!

Yes, very wierd of the MIL - but when my dad's mum and dad used to come visit us in Australia they used to do similar things (and go out sightseeing etc and never offer to babysit or anything). PIls are a strange breed (except us, we'll be perfect MILs )

On smelly nappies - sometimes my terries smell but the worst thing is when I am out and about and the nappies get wet then smell of poo and you wonder whether everyone is thinking 'that child has pooed and she has not changed his nappy' but they have not pooed, it is just the smell of the nappy!

I find putting them through a 90C wash and putting loads of vinegar in does the trick.

Surely I'm not the 1st on at this time?

Anyone else got a screaming/squealing baby? Ethan has started doing it and it drives us mad, especially as our guests can hear him too.

Hi all, haven't had time to fully catch up so haven't read all the posts

sponge - Alexander still needs fed in the night. I'm thinking now that it's a habit with him. We still do the dreamfeed at 11pm and then he wants a feed at around 3.30am ish. I think that's really common even at this age. Last night though he fell asleep when being fed in the night, so maybe he'll drop it soon

I've been surprised at how well A copes with me being away all day - like you sponge, I hadn't let him for more than a couple of hours before, but they are so adaptable it's impressive

5gomad sorry to hear S has been poorly, fingers crossed he gets better soon

bdq if you think of any interesting presents let us know - I'm another one who's looking forward

amber I know what you mean about the growing up fast, it makes me a bit teary sometimes as well

sponge yep we have set wake up time (well I say set but edie has got into habit of waking up at about 7 when can hear alarm movememnt etc when dh gets up) and gets up about then on weekend (I don't tend to let her sleep later than 8 even if she has been up). in bed between 7 -7.30 ish most nights - will be slightly later if she has long/late nap in pm.

and yes the ugly sight of competitive parenting (about crawling too) has also reared its head here - is there a crawling benchmark or something? FFs...

allnew glad you're confirming what I thought (that babies are adaptable and I'm extrapolating my feeligns onto edie if I'm awawy.. ie I miss her far mor than she misses me).

sybil.. can't blame you for being annoyed with hv.. load of old shite they talk - but crawling sounds so cute.

at commando crawling not being proper crawling... don't these people know how pathetic they sound? Although I have to admit it is nice to have two babies so even if one can't do something the other usually can. There's double the chances to be proud.

Not proud of their sleeping right now tho. Last night it was 12 and 1 from Theo then gave him calpol and he slept till morn, with E it was 12.30 and then 3.30. I am going to give them one more BF today (4 instead of 3) and get some sweet potato down them at tea time. Perhaps the finger food tea isn't working as well as I thought. Sponge I was thinking about this - could you offer A another milk feed during the day (or maybe two small ones) so he doesn't need one at night? Last time I tried to drop down to 3 BFs a day they started waking at night.