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June 2008 babies: rolling, sitting, crawling, babbling, teething, laughing, sleeping (not yet!)

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spongebrainbigpants · 31/01/2009 08:57

New home!

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spongebrainbigpants · 14/02/2009 11:40

Paro, hi, sounds like Fleur is doing brilliantly - and a little talker too!

You have such an exciting year ahead of you - no wonder you're so busy!

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spongebrainbigpants · 14/02/2009 11:41

BDQ, we have only just got into Gavin & Stacey too - can't believe we haven't watched it before! Ness is wonderful - have you seen the Xmas special? Hilarious!

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bitofadramaqueen · 14/02/2009 11:45

Yeah, I did sponge. Soooooo funny. Are you watching series two on BBC3?

Bugger, where's the time gone, I need to get back to my assisgment!

neenztwinz · 14/02/2009 14:27

Systems, E screamed when I offered her water! She was not impressed. Thankfully they don't wake each other (they are in sep rooms tho) but I only bothered a couple of times - I just left her to cry after that, made sure she had 5 BFs in the day and a decent amount of solids. She woke once the first night for 45 mins, then 20 mins the next night then slept through. Hope you can find a similarly successful solution.

Sponge, E hates being spoonfed sometimes, it depends what I am offering! So maybe find something A likes better. Have you tried sweet potato or parsnip? They are big favourites here and starchy so quite filling. What about Oatibix? (Oatibix is the new Medised - it's my cure-all) Yogurt? Fruit and baby rice? If he will only eat a bit try some spoonfeeding along with finger foods at lunch and tea. Whizz up some cooked chicken breast and add it to potato for lunch - a protein lunch should help him sleep better, then you can be more relaxed about tea. Has he ever settled well at bedtime? The DTs never did until I did CC when they were 6mo. Now they go down like clockwork. Some MNers says CC works cos they learn not to bother crying but I think that is bollox cos the DTs still cry when they need me, so they definitely haven't learned not to cry. All I'm saying is don't be scared to leave him to cry to get a routine in place. But also feel free to tell me to bog off and keep my cruel parenting methods to myself .

Yeah, how young does that 13yo dad look? He did say 'what's financially?' - it's on the vid on the Sun website. He hasn't even hit puberty, I'd want a DNA test if I was his parents.

T always tries to roll over at nappy changes too, it is doubly hard cos I use terries. But I just always put him firmly back on his back and say 'No, you have to lie on your back when you have your nappy changed'. I just repeat that over and over, and give him a toy to play with too, that normally keeps him in one place. He doesn't understand the words I am saying but I think he gets the message cos he is much better now than he used to be. Alex is a little monkey being so good for his dad! What puree did he eat?

Sybil, at your HV. All they care about is weight gain. Double cream my arse. Extra virgin olive oil maybe, at least that has good fats in. But the fat in cream is not really a great type of fat, the fats in avocados etc is better. I whizz avocadoes into sweet potato cos they hate them.

Ali, your poor dad! My plan is just to keep going as long as I and they are happy, maybe have a think about it at 1yo to see if I want to continue. Some babies decide for themselves they don;t want it anymore I think and when they are one I think it is only 1 feed late at night so no one needs to know you are still doing it or even has reason to ask I suppose.

I also like G&S - the christmas special was great! The way she is with the baby, hilarious!

spongebrainbigpants · 14/02/2009 14:40

Yer, Ness' interactions with baby Neil are fab - esp her talking to him over the baby monitor when she's in the bath! We were in stitches!

Neenz, A used to go down like a dream but now he's much more clingy I think which is part of the problem. Probably doesn't help that I haven't spent more than about two hours apart from him since he was born .

A loves Oatibix for his breakfast but refuses to eat it for his tea!

We've just been out for a lovely anniversary meal - A tried some haddock chowder and scallops, and also had cabbage (which he loves) and spring onion. Ate loads of food, slept for 20 mins in the car on the way home but unfortunately woke again when we moved him into the house and wouldn't go back to sleep! Just bought him a top that says "Sleep is highly over-rated"!

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DebInAustria · 14/02/2009 15:08

Happy anniversary Sponge and your dh

Paro - have I got this right - you're moving countries just before you get married? WOW.

FiveGoMadInDorset · 14/02/2009 15:10

Well it came out of the bottom end and then it came out of the top end, quite spectaculalry but he did manage to sit today.

FiveGoMadInDorset · 14/02/2009 15:10

Sponge happy anniversary

Amberc · 14/02/2009 15:42

Hi all! Had a lovely dinner last night with Mark - all lovey dovey which is great after 5 years together. As I expected Luke slept until 7.20 last night becasue the night nanny was here - why is that? Why 4.30 for me and 7.20 for her?!!!!! . He was dreadfully sick in the night though which she didn't hear or notice and it was all dried up over his sleeping things, hair and blanket. He was also hideously sick at lunch - the whole bottle of milk came up. He refused any solids at all - even yoghurt so he obviously is not well. He did a stinky nappy this morning and they don't normally smell like that - he must have a bug. He's slept for almost 5 hours in total for naps too today.

Have got news though - teeth have appeared! He has one that's come out a little and one that I can see ready to appear. At last! May have something to do with the early wakings.

tAlking of Gavin & Stacey, I am going to see Entertaining Mr Sloane at the theatre whoch has Gavin starring as Mr Sloane - can't wait!

Sponge - We have carpet in the bedrooms and Luke is pretty similar on them too and at the nursery which is all carpeted. He's just not ready yet but hopefully will be soon.

ISn't it awful about Jade Goody. Read in the paper she only has a few months to live. I don't know why it upset me as there are so many other people in the world going through the same thing but she's so young and her two little kids and everything. Always seems worse when it's someone famous as you feel you know them.

I hope all with sleep problems get it sorted - I don't know how you're still able to post down to sheer exhaustion. Makes my 4.30 wakings seem rather trivial.

Well done Five's baby on sitting today!

neenztwinz · 14/02/2009 16:10

Sponge, I think most babies are clingly at this age and sleep badly cos of developmental leaps etc. So I am sure it is not your fault! I think you should try leaving him for a bit though - it is great! I love being away from the twins, I feel like I can relax and not always be thinking about what they need next. I have already sounded out the PILs about leaving them for two nights in August for our wedding anniv and DH's b'day. I can't wait!

Amber, could L's nappies and food faddiness be his teeth too? Yes it is very sad about Jade Goody, but when someone refuses to have smear tests... well, you have to wonder what was going through her mind. She has been ill quite a bit over the last few years, being rushed to hospital etc so obviously there were signs that she was ill, it just wasn't picked up exactly what was wrong. But postnatally you get asked loads whether you have had a smear. Why didn't she have one??? It makes me angry really, those poor kids.

bitofadramaqueen · 14/02/2009 16:30

Neenz I thought she had had smear tests - I think she confessed that she ignored a letter to go back to the hospital because she was scared. She had operations to remove pre-cancerous cells when she was quite young I think and had had various tests for cancer through the years. It's a shame that she's paying such a terrible price for her fear.

I agree on time away from the babies though, I love my S free time, but he gets the biggest squeezy hug as soon as I'm reunited with him though.

neenztwinz · 14/02/2009 17:07

You could well be right there BDQ, I only heard a rep of hers on FiveLive saying she'd not been for a smear, though I wonder how old she is cos they don't give them routinely till you are over 25 now anyway, I bet she is not much older than that.

neenztwinz · 14/02/2009 17:10

She is 27 .

abdnhiker · 14/02/2009 17:13

systemsaddict I can't remember - have you or are you willing to try cc? We did for DS1 and it worked like a charm, he very quickly started only waking for hunger. However it's not worked for DS2, he will learn to sleep for a few days and then starts waking up again. Anyways, if you haven't tried it and you're okay with it, it's worth a shot!

Ali glad P is getting better - was thinking that it's been a long haul of not-wellness for you. Also, my dad loved that I breastfed DS1 as it turned my breasts into a feeding apparatus for his beloved grandsons - far nicer to think about that his daughter having boobs! With DS1 I just slowly dropped one feed at a time until by 12 months it was just once a day before bed. I finally stopped when he was 17 months. Like Deb I think I'll be the one missing it this time since we don't (are not capable of coping with) want any more.

Hi viva! Glad work is okay and very pleased that you get two days off a week! I'm so looking forward to part time work instead of full time (fingers crossed - my request is going in on Monday!).

re: double cream - I think Oli was on a special diet as she needs more calories than most babies. Plus surely a normal healthy diet would include vegetables! You could always cover them in a creamy cheese sauce if you needed to add calories, but even underweight kids need their vitamins!

sponge happy wedding anniversary!

5 is he sick? congrats on sitting...

FiveGoMadInDorset · 14/02/2009 17:13

Amber glad you had a nice night.DS is also porrly with awful nappies and not keeping anything down, I have changed 3 times today me and him, he is lethargic, phoned up NHS direct and there is a nasty bug going round. Nurse said little but often, literally a spoonful or 2 every 15 mins or so, hopefuuly not all night. Hope he gets better soon.

neenztwinz · 14/02/2009 17:21

Sympathies Five .

bitofadramaqueen · 14/02/2009 17:47

Hope he gets better soon five.

I really need to get back to my assignment... I have written about 800 words today though [saintly emoticon]

spongebrainbigpants · 14/02/2009 17:47

Amber, sorry to hear about Luke not being well but exciting on the teeth - really do think that Alex is going to be the last baby to teeth on this thread!

Neenz, leaving him is not for want of trying! My mum was supposed to babysit over night for us in December but she was ill - and now his sleeping is so bad I'm reluctant to leave him with her. There's no one else I'd trust to do overnight. We are going to the footie next Saturday and she's going to look after him for the afternoon which I'm really looking forward to. I've also joined a gym and will be signing him up for the creche next week so I can go for a work out/swim and relax.

5, sorry to hear about your LO too .

Sleeping issues - we discussed this over lunch today and decided we might start feeding Alex again at night. His sleeping has seriously deterioated since we stopped feeding and even if we have to feed at 2am every night if it means he then sleeps through til 7am so be it. AH, are you still feeding at night? Is anyone else? I know everyone says they shouldn't be feeding at night by 8 mths but if they're hungry they're hungry and Alex is so active in the day I don't know how he gets by on the calories he takes in!

As for Jade Goody - it's desperately sad. It was my understanding that she had been misdiagnosed by her doctors initially, I didn't think it was anything she'd done? Regardless, a heavy price to pay .

I lost a friend to cancer in 2001 - she left behind a 3yr old boy and 6 yr old girl. At the burial, when the coffin was lowered her daughter ran over and said "bye bye mummy". It still makes me howl even now . A terrible loss for her kids.

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neenztwinz · 14/02/2009 17:57

Sponge, what a sad story . I think Jade Goody's cancer should have been picked up during her emergency hospital visit but AIUI she didn't have her routine smears. I could be wrong tho.

I am still feeding the DTs are night if they wake. Once a night each I can cope with, when it starts to become twice a night (or every two hours like it was over Christmas) that's when I think enough's enough and do CC to stop it. T has slept through the last two nights, E woke last night but slept through the night before. I feed them because it gets them back to sleep and me back in bed in 10mins! Is A having Calpol when he wakes or at bedtime? It might be worth a try to see if it makes a difference. No poncy 2.5ml either - give him the full hit!

spongebrainbigpants · 14/02/2009 18:07

Lol at the full hit!

That's good to know - for some reason I got the impression (maybe false!) that most people had stopped night feeding but think we might resume it again. If he's hungry he's hungry.

Will let you know how he gets on!

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goingtohaveagoodnightssleep · 14/02/2009 18:09

I feel so sad for Jane Goody and her family. .

ALI I stopped bf'ing dd1 at 2 1/2 years. I had tried cutiing down etc but sje wouldn't stop. One day I had enough and said the milk an out! She must have been ready to stop as there were no tears. I'd like to keep going for a while with DS and worry more about him being ready to stop before me.

FiveGoMadInDorset · 14/02/2009 18:13

We feed DS when we go to bed and that seems to get him through to anywhere betwen 5 and 7, if he wakes up between 5 and 6 he comes into bed with us and we try to get him back to sleep until 7.

spongebrainbigpants · 14/02/2009 18:43

5, that tends to be our pattern too, although A is now joining us earlier and earlier (3 o'clock this morning ). Think it would be less disruptive too our sleep if we just got up, fed him and tried to settle him in his cot.

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PiggyPenguin · 14/02/2009 19:43

5 - hope S feels better soon. I remember doing something very similar when dd had s+d at 4 months and she couldn't keep anything down. Hopefully it won't go on for too long but my sympathies are with you.

I have slightly got over my annoyance with the hv now. I do think that they are a bit blinded by the whole calorie thing, especially as it will all change by 5 years and then they will be trying to get us to have slim children. But I probably will give him a bit of double cream with his weetabix (as it sounds yummy!) and he eats so little I doubt it will have much impact anyway. He is still having his broccoli and carrot for tea, and he has it with grated cheese on top anyway so its not as if he is on a low-fat diet.

He has started proper crawling today and is pulling himself up on everything, including his siblings! You can't stand still next to him for more than a couple of seconds otherwise he uses your leg as a climbing post and then stands there laughing at you. Its very cute, but does prevent you moving around.

Amberc · 14/02/2009 19:59

OMG Sponge - what a desperately sad story - I don't think I would ever forget that. My Dad died of cancer - such an awful disease that takes no prisoners.

Five - Luke is no way as ill as your LO. He's perfectly happy in himself but just sicky and very sleepy. We got him to keep a whole bottle down. I do hope your poor little baby feels better tomorrow. Hopefuly it's a short term thing.

I think the teething may have contributed to the early mornings but I don't think it has anything to do with his smelly nappy and sickness. The second one has come through enough for me to feel now. As much as I know he will look super cute with teeth, I will miss his little gummy grin and it reminds me that he's growing up. Made me a bit emotional - what a loser!