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May 2008 - The Third Thread.... Hot sausage and Mustard continued.....

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Haribosmummy · 13/01/2009 18:34

New thread... Hoep this one is a bit more accessible!!!

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macaco · 01/03/2009 09:10

Hi everyone. Welcome back mumofjandk I haven't changed names. We've got a new carrier, not a sling really, called Manduca. Don't know if you'd be interested Baiyu it does a hip carry and is really really comfy and DS weighs 10.5kg! manduca It goes up to 12k on the front and side carry and 20k on the back.

MM can't remember your summer holiday story, are you worried about this holiday not being relaxing? Weather should be quite nice at that time of year. It's been quite good in most of Spain recently. We're also not thinking of no2 for about another year, although like HM I am soooooooo broody, but broody to be pregnant..the idea of another actual baby atm gives me the heeby jeebies!

I still hate work, but it's mostly my boss I hate at the mo, that and the hours. But I hvae an escape plan......come June and I'm a WAHM!...would really like to be a SAHM but needs must!

We got the maxi cosi priorifix and I like it a lot and DS is much happier facing forward.

shonnomanom · 01/03/2009 11:08

Morning!

Hannah was weighed about 3 weeks ago at 17lbs 9oz (think thats about 7kg maybe) but she's been ill since so will be a bit lighter. She's 9months now and short legged but her feet are touching the backseat when she's in her chair, she's still got plenty of head room but she's looking a bit squashed width wise iykwim

We'r going through to the pram centre and mothercare this afternoon to have a look at some. Il probably buy online to save money but like try before I buy.

Just got a text from my brother in Aus, they were in a head on collision with a car last night. His car is a roght off but fortunatley their both ok apart from some whiplash, the other driver never had insurance so theyv been told to take her to court to get compensation. Holiday fun eh

gingerwench · 01/03/2009 17:39

hi macaco - I've hired a manduca to try out for a couple of weeks, I like my moby wrap but I wanted something easier for back carrying and without the long tails of fabric. what do you reckon to the manduca?

macaco · 01/03/2009 18:31

Hi GW I like the manduca a lot. It took me a couple of goes to work out the way the straps go and I've still not really mastered the back carry. I also find the back carry a bit weird as I can't see him! But I've not had slings before so i think I'm just a bit crap at working them out, I don't think it's at all complicted to use. So far we've used the front carry mostly and it's really good for calming him down when he's teething. At the moment if we try going for a walk in the push chair he starts squealing and twisting to get out after about 5 mins so the manduca means I can actually leave the house!

Well I think I have PMT. I've been feeling strangely down about nothing much the last couple of days...and knackered. Found out that a colleague is pregnant with her first and it's making my weird broodiness for pregnancy even worse. I don't want another baby for at least a year but I'm feeling sooooo broody. I feel quite jealous and weird (but really pleased too) about this colleague. What on earth is the matter with me?

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luckymummy74 · 02/03/2009 20:37

HI all, the thread seems to have picked up a lot of speed again...I can hardly keep up!!

Sho sorry to hear about the car accident, how awful. Hope the whiplash isn't too bad for them.

Baiyu glad you had a good night out...you go girl!!

HM Your comment made me chuckle....did you know there is actually a condition called 'Munchhausens by Proxy' whereby the parent induces 'imgainary' illness on the child. I've had a few patients with it, youngsters who are actually fine, but the parents are convinced something is wrong so the child then behaves as if there is something wrong. Scary stuff. Obviously I am not suggesting for a moment that you have this....LOL!!!! Your comment just reminded me of it.
Thanks also for asking about superbro. He's doing much better thanks. He came to stay for a bit. He's gone ski-ing now for a couple of weeks. I think he's gonna be OK. Very kind of you to ask (I think you secretly want to steal him for babysitting!!!)

I too am a bit of an ebay queen, buying and selling. It's definitely worth getting into. I second all that HM said. I feel I could write a book on 'tips for selling on ebay'!!!

No broodiness whatsoever here. Just a big fat [phew!] whenever I see a newborn knowing I won't ever have to do that again!!! Very happy with my lot.

Had a weekend away at my parents (minus DH). I went out with some schoolfriends sat night and ended up in a club!!!!!

Had DD2 weighed last week, she's gone from 50th to 91st centile (fat biffa!). She weighs over 10KG (23lbs). No wonder my bloody shoulder hurts! She doesn't look fat, but she is a sturdy lass. HV said to monitor it!!!!! .

Must go, all this typing really not good for my shoulder, but I have to keep up!!!

LM xx

Haribosmummy · 03/03/2009 00:28

LM - Oh, I know about Munchausens... DS reminds me everytime I take him to the Dr / HV and he acts so smiley and happy, when he's been barfing all night and wailing like a banshee at home. He really is a funny little sausage and loves the limelight / attention, so if he's ever in a grump, the best thing I can do is take him out to see people - that cheers him up no end!!!

Sorry, just a quickie from me... Can't sleep but really should!!

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Mitchell81 · 03/03/2009 12:26

Hello everyone, hope you are all well. Had DS2 weighed last week and he is 12kg/27 lbs?
So has levelled off with his weight gain and hopefully if he continues at a slower rate will soon re enter the charts.

He is still moving around the house but not properly crawling. DS1 clothes had to be thrown away from faded knees whilst crawling but with DS2 they will be faded the whole leg as he drags himself across the floor.

baiyu · 03/03/2009 22:59

Aww macaco I feel like that too. I was oggling newborns coming into the next class today, so so small! Not yet though, maybe in 6 months Situation dependant really, if DP gets a job then no problem, if he doesn't it'll be back to China or Taiwan = lots of problems!

Love your piano story fuzzypeach though it makes me sad. Hope you get to get another one later down the road when you're not so busy with babies!

Hope your brother is ok sho. LM a CLUB! Goodness. My sister came with us to the concert on sat too, we got back to my house about half eleven. She got a text from a boy and went off out dancing til 3am, I just would not have the energy! She works in a bar which is open til 3am at weekends and still has energy to go out, half eleven was pretty late for me. She is 19 though... I feel old

baiyu · 03/03/2009 23:00

That's a very good weight mitchell! Haven't had DS weighed for about 4 months Going to do it tomorrow!

Haribosmummy · 04/03/2009 07:50

Baiyu - You are not allowed to admit to feeling old! If you are old, I'm a bl**dy relic!!!

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baiyu · 04/03/2009 11:19

No you're not HM! I'm maybe just old before my time! I get much more excited about pots for my kitchen than going out dancing, hehe.

I just had a very funny/sad morning. We had to go and clear out the car as it has to be scrapped (minimum £700 work needing doing on an ancient car and then new tires, lights etc). It's all a bit overly emotive too as it's DP's Dad's car and hs Dad is very ill. Anyway, the car was parked about a mile away and after we took ages to find it and then emptied it we then had to walk home down narrow pavements carrying (with Finn in the buggy) amongst other things...a car seat, lots of de-icer, a mini fire estinguisher, lots of old maps, lots of blu-tac, a wooden axe handle, a magnifying glass and 5 large golfing umbrellas. Maybe you had to be there but I pmsl all the way home! It was the umbrellas that did it on a beautiful sunny day.

Haribosmummy · 04/03/2009 11:58

Oh, baiyu - I can see the funny side, but why 5 golf umbrellas in the car???????????

It's sad that it's had to be scrapped. I always remember the first decent car my parents got - it was an Audi and it got hit by a drunk driver... The damage didn't look too bad, but it had bent the chassis really badly and was written off. I always remember feeling so sad for the car, sitting all alone in the car park. I cried my eyes out on the garage forecourt

In my defence, I was only 8, and my mum had very serious cancer when I was 6, so I was very emotional about anything (even cars)
dying!!!

I have a request for advice... DS is a bit of a hair puller (well, actually, he's a bugger for pulling hair and it HURTS) yesterday, he pulled the hair of a child the same age as him. Obviously the other child cried (it does hurt when he pulls hair)... but what do I say to DS? Telling him off seems pretty ridiculous, I do always say NO and stop him (but that's when it's with me, it was too late yesterday by the time I'd noticed). The other mum wasn't happy, and was cuddling her (wailing) child while shooting me and DS evils, but I don't know how to stop him pulling hair at this age.
Any advice?

Life a bit crazy making here at the mo - looking forward to DH coming home at the weekend!!!

Hope you are all well.

HM xx

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luckymummy74 · 04/03/2009 20:11

HM FWIW, I reckon you can at least start to let them know right from wrong at this age. I agree with you, it does seem a bit silly to tell them off as such as they don't know really what they are doing, but certain things DD2 does, i.e. touching the TV/DVD player, climbing in kitchen cupboards that aren't hers (we have one cupboard full of tuppaware etc which she is allowed in..worked brilliantly with DD1) I look at her and say "DD2....Noooo!...mustn't touch, naughty!". Not shouting, but firmly, IYSWIM. Luckily I have the benefit of doing the same thing with DD1 and it really worked, even though it takes a while (a good few weeks) I think at this age they are learning the ability to then know right from wrong (or what they'r enot supposed to do). I can just remember with DD1 feeling really smug pleased that I had stuck to it as she eventually could be taken anywhere and if she apporoached something she shouldn't touch I would just say "DD1! Mustn't touch!" and she would move away. (this also worked with "DD1, don't throw your food on the floor, that's naughty!"

Funnily enough, DH and I were just discussing today how long it took DD1 to 'get it' as DD2 driving us a bit potty at the moment getting herself into places she shouldn't!

Maybe you could say "Harry, no, you mustn't pull hair, it's naughty". Be consistent.
What do you think?? If it's any consolation, I get my hair grabbed too!!

Feeling quite optimistic as I went swimming today for the first time since I hurt my shoulder and managed 10 lengths and it felt OK!!! I reckon I could've done more but I wanted to see how it feels tomorrow. I have really missed swimming.

DH has had the girls for the last 2.5 days while I was at work. He just said to me...."I really know what you meant now when you used to say how much nicer/easier it was looking after the girls with me around. When you came home from work earlier I felt a weight lift as I knew reinforcements were here!"

I have noticed him being more tired the days he has them and more touchy/shorter fuse!!!!

I am loving being back at work, but I also am enjoying my time at home more now too because of it. I don't know if that helps any of you debating work (monkeysmama?)

Wow, shoulder must be better, look at the size of this post!!!

LM xxx

Niknak21 · 05/03/2009 05:23

Morning all,

Had a no sleep night, I think cos of poo in pants worries and too much laptop and tv just before bed. Tried to put a long post on last night and lost it, 6 hrs later would like some advice on how to start a thread.

Or I could just get some FMLs advice since it can be scary out there!

I went to DS1's parents evening on Monday, alone cos DH was ill (he took the day off which means he was feeling close to death). And we mostly discussed his toileting. He is 3.5 and has been out of nappies for a year ( I wanted to get him sorted a few months before the arrival of Pond aka DS2). He wasn't interested but after a week of wees in pants he got the hang of it. It has been up and down. Quite bad in the summer when if it wasn't wees and poos in pants it was bad behaviour at nursery. They asked DH if there had been any changes at home, I felt they were asking him if we were getting a divorce! Anyway I did feel a 3 month old may be causing him to seek attention in hitting and wetting/soiling. And again things were up and down, just when we'd have a few weeks of clean pants then we'd have accidents again. The HV gave me tips when DS2 was born, but I've never really felt that his problem was to get attention, I just think he doesn't care. Life is too interesting to go to the toilet,and someone will clean you up anyway.

So on Monday his keyworker at nursery said she thought he may have a bowel problem since he did it whilst playing getting lots of one to one attention, and then asked if I would mind if she spoke to my HV. I now feel I should speak to my HV. The keyworker said she would be getting worried if he was going to school in Septmeber but since he's a September baby we have 18 months to sort him out.

I'm just getting a bit wound up about it now. It's not so much the wees, it's more common for it to be a poo accident. If I ask him why he didn't say he needed to go he just says because I didn't. I think he has bowel control cos sometimes he doesn't go for days and 'sends it away' where he won't go on the loo. I think he's had dirty pants every day for the past week.

He did a small one at nursery this morning in his pants. But did a big one while upstairs with Daddy this evening. DH made him clean out his pants himself (he was in the middle of a DIY project) and he brought them down to me to put in the washing machine. It seems really mean, but I think getting him to sort himself out a bit after may work. DH put him in a nappy on Sunday after his accident but not sure the 'you can be a baby if you want' approach is the right way to go.

We've done stickers, in fact nursery still do them. And he gets loads of praise when he does do it on the toilet. I've even started giving him chocolate when poos go down the loo not the pants (something I thought I'd never do, reward with food especially choc). And we don't tell him off. I did pretend to cry this evening to show him how sad I was, but DH was cross with him and was dealing with it so I had to butt out.

Sorry for such a long ramble but lack of sleep has intensified things and both my darlings are going to nursery today. DS2 was tearful all last Thursday visit apparently so worried about that.

Would post this in appropriate place but can't work out how, and not sure if would get advice!

I'm sort of hoping he's had what DH has had ( and I had a bit), but it was stomach cramps aswell as frequent loo trips. But I did change 3 dirty nappies for DS2 this morning in the space of an hour, I think about 6 in total today . And it was over a week ago it escalated to a poo a day...

monkeysmama · 05/03/2009 09:45

Hi girls

Niknak I can't really offer much advice but maybe Luckymummy can help. Did smile tho at the start of your post-had to read it twice as I understood you went to you pils and discussed DH's toilet habits!

HM I'm with you on the hair pulling. Ours is so bad it is embarrassing. I have to wear a headband because of all the fluff hair at the front of my head from dd literally ripping it out . She falls asleep (& sleep is very important!) by wrapping her hands in my (long) hair and tugging. It snaps and she gets another handful. I've tried to stop it but at 2am I am perhaps not as consistent as I should be. It is a major problem for me & has been making me feel like my whole body's now dd's. It also hurts a lot! On Sunday she was playing with another baby & get a handful of his hair .

Baiyu pmsl at your car post (though sorry you have to get rid of it). The handle of an axe?!

Dd's napping so I'm gonna get half hour's rest.

MM

Haribosmummy · 05/03/2009 11:41

Niknak - No advice from me either really.. I do remember toilet training DSD2 - she was in night time nappies until she was about 3YO. It does sound like your DS might have an issue with going to the loo rather than a bowel problem.

MM - thanks for the sympathy.. I was interested in what you said about sleep. DS also sleeps by tugging on my hair (NOT hard when he's asleep, more just to check I'm still there, IYSWIM!) but I do wonder if that's why he thinks it's OK to do it during the day (I don't tend to be too consistent at 2am either !)

LM - Really glad your regime is working out well for you. Sounds like you and your DH both have the best of both worlds!!

Hope everyone is well!

HM x

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Niknak21 · 05/03/2009 18:36

Thanks HM And MM. Feeling a bit brighter this eve and a bit more hopeful since we had clean pants at nursery all day today. DS2 also had fun despite being peeled off me kicking and screaming, he's such a drama queen, but it gets to me none the less.

But still don't know how to start a thread, info please anyone.

We also have hair pulling, but trying to get him to learn no....

Haribosmummy · 05/03/2009 18:52

NikNak - starting a new thread is easy.

go to TOPICS and choose which area you want to post in.

Go to the thread list in the topic and, at the top (in fairly small writing) you will see a little note saying 'if you want to start a new thread' click here.

I'll try and link to it just now.

HM X

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Haribosmummy · 05/03/2009 18:55

Look at the top of this page niknak..

You will see:
Mumsnet Discussions: Post-natal clubs : May 2008 - The Third Thread.... Hot sausage and Mustard continued..... (295 messages)
Add a message Watch this thread Refresh the display Flip this thread Hide this thread Add new thread in this topic

Look at the end where it says add a new thread in this topic... That will let you start a new thread in the 'post natal clubs topic'

I think, for what you posted, you would be best posting under 'behaviour and development' (Suggestions?????) that would be my guess!!!

Hope that is of some help.

HM x

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luckymummy74 · 05/03/2009 20:17

niknak so sorry to hear of your problems. I can't offer any tips other than maybe it is time to talk to the HV about it if he is 3.5yrs?

Please let us know how you get on.

Niknak21 · 05/03/2009 20:35

LMNursery spoke to nursery nurse who I think is quite good and saw him at his 2 yr check. Otherwise the 2 HVs at my practice don't know him from adam. And his funny little ways . She suggested going back to nappies, but I can't face starting again after a year,and we have had better spells than this. He is also wanting to use the potty more rather than the loo so I think he will just enjoy the baby treatment. Anyway nursery told her they didn't think that was the way to go. So the HV or community nurse is going to contact nursery with more suggestions I think. I am lucky to have the support of nursery, and was planning to speak directly to the HV after they speak to nursery to prevent any loss of info through 2nd hand conversations. Here's hoping . Thanks for support, not sure a regular MN response would be what I need.

mumofkandj · 05/03/2009 23:13

baiyu- Thanks for 'translating' the names for me, thats a big help!
I'm finding one shulder/hip slings a pian in the back at the moment, but the best one I find for popping up and down on the hip is a ring sling. the one I have is a tiny bit stretchy so I can pull it very snug, but after 30 mins it hurts, so I need her weight evenly distributed so I try to put her on my back.
macaco and gingerwench- the manduca looks like a mei tai with buckles, looks good. I really like MTs. One I have, (Olives and Applesauce) I seem to use loads at the mo is a half-buckle, so it has a buckle for the waist and long straps so I can cross them or ruck them or wrap around J with them. Its Winnie the Poo fabric and gorgeous- I really must get a photo of it.
NikNak- sorry you're having a stressful time of it.I haven't had useful experience of this. Did your son choose to stop wearing nappies for himself?FWIW,I would expect my 3.5 yr old to help tidy up any mess she made. sorry, m keyboard is going loopy with scrolling up and down so can't actually read what I'm typing anymore....will return again!

baiyu · 06/03/2009 10:06

Oh dear Niknak that's tricky. I've no experience in this area but I did read that it is a good idea to get them to help clean up, like tipping the poo from pants into the loo and flushing but doing it with you and definitely not in an angry way or as a punishment just as 'let's see where it's meant to go' kind of thing. That's my tuppence worth but probably useless and I bow down to those who've actually done toilet training!

Mumofkandj No probmem! Have you tried a hipseat at all, the hippychick one? I'm just thinking for round the house, as I stir pots, hang up washing etc while not twisting my spine as much as I do now. I bought a close sling thinking it could do hip and back but it can't, it's '5 positions' are all on the front

I'm glad you liked my car story, I have no idea why the 5 umrellas or axe handle! I'd ask (F)FIL but I think he'd probably have no idea either!

I had Finn weighed on Weds (first time in 4 months ) and he's jumped percentiles to the 85th from 75th and weighs just under 23lbs. As for height he's off the scale! In my wee book there's the 99.6th percentile and DS is a good half centimetre above that! Such a tall boy!

DP's dissertation is in today, hooray! So then he can catch up on sleep and will have no excuse to be a grumpy bugger

Haribosmummy · 06/03/2009 12:07

OK, girls... I have a lesson for you... It's called 'be very careful what you wish for'.... See, it seems there is a reason I've been feeling broody... it's cos my hormones are playing up a bit... cos I am > pregnant

only just told DH and it hasn't really, properly sunk in yet, even though I have a few scan piccies...

I did better than last time (I was 22 weeks PG when I found out) but, I have to say, not by that much

Right, I am off for a lie down in a quiet dark room!!

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