December 2008 - Its not wind they are smiling.

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Here we go ladies Rosmerta suggestion.

oh i just realised you are talking about FF not expressed milk sorry - disregard!

Hello Ladies!!!

Been forever since I posted on these threads. Will probably never catch up with everyone but I hope everyone is doing well with their lo's.

DS is thriving and is enourmous which means I'm at least doing something right with the bf!

Just cuirious how things work where everyone else is but have had to chase GP surgery today re: DS 8 week check & jabs and my post natal check. Was told by a stupid receptionist that it was up to me to hand in a form from the MW so they knew DS had been born as they weren't to know. I asked if this had changed since I had DD 2 yrs ago as she was automatically sent for, I then pointed out that if they didn't know he was born how did their HV manage to visit 2 weeks after he was born. She stuttered and appointment has been made.

I also had to make my own 6 week post natal check - also had to point this out. Am just very at their attitude and incompetence.

Will try & catch up now on how everyone is doing.

Oh, Arti mentioned going to a performance of this mutual friend and his act is quite specific so we worked it out from that. KMP, bless you, I think you need your eyes tested, but thanks anyway! No link for the meetup yet so far as I know. Turnip suggested somewhere on the South Bank I think but nothing has been finalised.

Cat - I think you can keep it stored in the fridge for 24 hours though occasionally we go over this. Occasionally I take the teat out if she seems a bit choky, but this only happens perhaps once a feed. Re: wind, keep him sitting as upright as possible. Perhaps even try winding him midway through. I find the lifting the arms up thing works for me, as does rubbing the back, but only up and NOT down. Only pat up as well - otherwise you are encouraging the air down.

By the way way DS is 8 weeks on Monday and is all over the place re: a routine is anyone else in the same boat....can't remember what DD was up to at this age!!!!!

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Sorry Cat, was that obvious (and therefore useless) advice? I never know! I am sure you have tried the lot - sorry!

Hi there Daisy, the only routine DD is that she likes to feed every three hours. But I am not sweating it. My health authority in Oxfordshire is similarly lackadaisical, by the way.

Right - promised to make DP some pastry, so off I go like a Stepford Wife! Night all.

Daisy I had to make my own 6 week check too. They only make the babies 8 week check here. But my 6 week check is actually at 7 weeks as they didn't have any appointments at all.

it is the time of night dd went MENTAL last night. we have managed - crossed fingers - to get her asleep and in her moses basket in the dark and quiet corner of the room. BUT she is making lots of noises and it is putting us both on edge. like living with a ticking timebomb. or being a bomb disposal expert. ok, maybe not that dramatic, but you know what i mean.

aaaaaaaaaargh!

Woohoo!!! DD has put on 11oz in a week, the mixed feeding is obviously doing the trick, now time to address the sleeping...

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oh bloody hell i think she's going mental again.

catdean ds gets left to cry a lot more than dd ever did. I sswear I'd never get dressed in a morning if I didn't leave him for a bit. He is also a fan of sleeping on me....he is as I type this.

Hello just booking marking myself am only just up to page 6 but thought I would just drop on with a tip karvol on a hanky or clothes is good for sniffles or olbas does a baby version. Also with ds1 we invested in a vaporizer it is a kind of electric air version of an oil burner it is nice for nice smells but also good for putting the above oils or eucalyptus oil into for blocked noses. Also I agree you should get a2nd opinion other than your dh, I don't mean any offence to him but it just best not to treat your own children. My GP said health professionals tend to either over react or under react. Over reacting is fine as doctors would rather reassure that everything is fine than find out too late that's it's not. And obviously under reacting is bad.

Had my first outing with the 2 boys and just me. I picked ds1 up from nursery and then we walked into town and had lunch from caffe Nero. Then picked up some bits from Boots. Have discovered it is easier to not care if crying baby is disturbing other customers and our local caffe Nero has lovely staff will def be back there, it is also easy with the pushchair and has a disabled toilet with change table. Also I have perfected the art of discrete breastfeeding. I got a little cardy jacket thing from Primark that has just 2 big buttons at the top so I can hide him under it and can look in the top to check he is latched on. Not sure what I'll do in the summer will have to go back to fighting with the pashmina.

Cat I agree with Daisy DS2 gets left to cry a lot more than DS2.

thanks for the tip veggie he's been asleep a lot today, as I figured it will help him get over it faster but i'm fearful of a hideous night ahead!
Agree that's what DH says about treating family - hates to - and def an UNDER reacter - I think due to seeing so many much worse cases on a daily basis - the amount of arguments we've had where I think he just doesn't seem to care too much about health / injuries to myself / my family!! I often joke i'd have to be on my last legs before he'd pay any attention! Anyway, WG hope it all hasn't kicked off for you, and hope we are not both here again at 1am!

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catdean pmsl re: conjugal relations....mind you we had a go the other night, its been that long I felt like a bloody virgin Apologies if thats TMI for everyone

Arti I was also interested by the number of us having our babes early. At the antenatal class I was told only 15-20% babies arrive early ? well not for us!!

LadyT I agree that a simple shower is the best thing ever at the moment, and if there?s 2 minutes afterwards to moisturise all over, well its the biggest luxury in the world. Oh, and last week DD was really snotty and congested and a friend suggested I put karvol on a tissue and put it a bit further away from her than you would for an adult, and get lots of steaming bowls of water around as well ? it seemed to work for us.

Flumpy what a gorgeous family you have And well done on getting DD to sleep through ? roll on 8 weeks!

WG champagne and a cuddle with DD sound like the perfect way to toast your Mum?s memory. And well done for getting to know your DD, I feel like I?m still trying but encouraged to hear its do-able.

Verso and Cat hurrah for sleep!

KMP sorry to hear about your DH?s grandad

Trace I knew my laughter at your DD?s poo/wee/sick episode would bite me on the bum ? last night DD pooed so violently it ran down her leg into her socks! That will teach me ?

Tomorrow I?ve decided to go to a BF support group, I have a list of questions as long as my arm! I want to find out more about expressing, so I?m going to pick your brains too, so I don?t look a complete dimbo when I get there. I?d like to start to do one or maybe two feeds a day of expressed milk, DH in particular is keen to share the night feeds (wonder how long that enthusiasm will last but bless him for wanting to do so ? and Trace, I understand where you?re coming from on the DH issue, in some ways I don?t want to share the feeding, even though it will give me more sleep). When is the best time to express? Before a feed, or after? Should I feed from one side and express from the other? How long before I intend to use the expressed milk should I express it? It all seems so complicated, but I know it will make (having a) life easier if I can get my act together on it.

Kayz/trace/lal ? enjoy your meet up tomorrow, and I will be at the next one.

cat - I'm a bit like you for not wanting to put down dd...I just don't like hearing her scream, so I do tend to carry her around and do lots of one-handed stuff. I wait until she's asleep and then have lightening speed showers, and I haven't dried my hair with the drier for yonks! Also dd1 can't bear dd2 screaming! Tonight when dd2 was screaming in the car, dd1 put her hands over her ears and stating screaming too! I think I'd have done the same if I wasn't driving!
As for conjugal relations...we're still in separate rooms so nothing likely there! Plus dh is a bit freaked out having seen my nether regions performing other duties so I think it'll be as much an issue for him as anything! TBH I would rather sleep if I have time spare!

dd1 started dance lessons tonight! She did 3o mins ballet and 30 mins tap - she was rubbish at it but had a good time, so we'll be back next week!

Phoebe has been like clockwork today with her 2 hourly feeds, then when she fell asleep after her last feed at 8pm, I put her in her cot and haven't heard a peep since - I was so pleased that she settled straight away, but after 5 minutes I had to go and check on her because I was freaked out by the silence!

Really looking forward to the york meet-up tomorrow. Dh is all anxious for me in case it turns out that kayz or Lal are axe murderers! If you are could you let me know now - I'd hate dh to say I told you so!
How do we identify ourselves? What if there are loads of people with babies? I'll have Phoebe in a sling if that helps you identify me...and I look like my profile pic but without the bump (or some of it!)

Zoe - ditto with the expressing thing. Feel like it would probably be a wise thing to do and might benefit us all, but sounds a bit challenging for me at the mo! She feeds so much - when would I ever express?!! And does it mess with your supply? Questions questions!!!

I'm not an axe murderer Mr Trace They won't let me bring it on the bus. Though I could buy one from Whigmaleeries on the way

I will have Dylan in a sling too, a red one. I suppose I could get DH to wait there too. The bright green P&Ts will give it away!!!

Try not to look to beautiful will you I am still in my maternity stuff really!!!

the monster just won't settle. dh did sterling work slinging her and getting her into her moses basket, but this is the third time tonight - sleep in arms, seems asleep, put her down and it lasts 5 mins. i fear this may drive us mad...

just thought i'd keep you up to date

kayz - forgot to email you...my mobile number is 07588 501016.
looking forward to meeting you

wg - so sorry your monkey is doing her best to drive you insane again. Phoebe did that last night - you think she's zonked finally, then as soon as she's not being held she's awake and unhappy. Really hope she settles for you soon so you can get some sleep.