June 08 - New Year same old sleepless nights

[hedgehog1979]

Bit bored so thought I would start the new thread

cool - should check really as think this one meant to go up for bigger kids but ol' chunky thighs giving it a bit too much of a pounding with ehr kicking now for it to be safe much longer

is it one like this 5gomad link

if you go to the page with all 6 pictures it is bottom one in the middle, does go back quite flat have used it since s was born

thanks 5..now need to talk dh round to buying more baby stuff

Great to see some of the London Ladies today:
Puree, so lovely to finally meet you.
HH sorry you couldn't make it, hope you aren't feeling too bad about going back to work. Also thanks for the Pumpkin Patch link. There are some good deals on there.
Poppy is right - we made quite a mess, but we did leave a decent tip
Amber. I'm that that was our last meet up for a while. Maybe we can have lunch again when you are next on ML (Everyone else - no she didn't announce she was pg, don't go getting the wrong end of the stick with that one)
Sponge it was great to see another BLW baby in action - I feel less like an odd bod now.

We got back from London very easily. I decided to skip P's tea as he had eaten quite a bit over lunch and move straight to the bath. He was knackered, and was asleep by 6pm. I'm sure he will be awake again soon.

So pleased to hear that some people are having better nights Deb and Amber. Rather than feeling , it is giving me hope that better times are just around the corner. P is definitely better at settling down to sleep early evening now. He also seems to have got over his Xmas spell of waking up every 20 minutes all evening, so he is putting some longer stints in (4 hours max). Now all I need to do is get the longer stints happening between midnight and 6, oh, and sort out his nap problems too...it could be a long road I feel.

ali/sponge peter/alex are great ads for blw.. the range of things they eat are fantastic.. edie definitely inspired although I'm not convinced her will and her ability match up as had to rescue a few things ..who says having a dog can't help you with children?

hope too that peter is turning a corner on his sleeping

Blimey that lunch took it out of me - London Ladies sorry Luke was so grumpy - his face was obviously really itching and of course he's probably teething. He screamed pretty much the whole way home. When we got back I put him in the bumbo so I could unload the washing machine and he started munching my keys and cut his tongue and it's been bleeding ever since. Of course the first thing he did (other than cry) was to mouth my pale blue top which is now covered in blood stains (was brand new todaY). He also decided that he wanted to swim in the bath so kept flipping over for breast stroke and almost drowning. I need a lie down....

Would have liked to cuddle all the babies but due to Luke being hmmm 'fractious' I only got to cuddle Peter today. He made up for it by giving me lots of sloppy baby kisses and laughing loads - super cute. Also many thanks to Puree&Pearls for all her help with Luke and making him laugh.

I went to check out stage 1 car seats at the local in-car safety forum today. No chance any are slim enough to fit two in the back with an infant carrier as well. If I bought two Maxi Cosi Tobis then I could prob squeeze in between them and put a baby in the front (if DH is driving), but not sure if air bag can be disabled.

Anyway, I looked on the Which website and they say the best/safest is the Kiddy Infinity Pro which is FF and not even isofix and scores higher overall than even the RF seats. RF seats do great on front-impact crashes but only average on side impact (which they say is the most common). They are only £130 too so they seem perfect. Can't find the actual dimensions online but they seem pretty slim. I have found a supplier in Manchester but he says they have been inundated with requests for it since the which survey. They import them from Germany. Still a while till I need them so will probably be getting them.

Good luck tomorrow Essie!

Hi all, had lovely lunch today - thanks girls! Amber, sorry that Luke was so unsettled - he did well with his food though. Ali, me too! Although I would say that Peter makes far less mess than Alex - I was mortified at the mess under his highchair!

poppy, I didn't think Edie was doing too bad either tbh, and as for babypearls . . . where on earth does she put it all?!!

Essie, good luck for work tomorrow.

Hi everyone else - off to catch up on Dancing on Ice, finally!

BDQ, thanks for the milk/weaning comments. Think I may try the smaller bottles route as a way of reducing amount of milk A needs during the day - but he's still not eating much re BLW. Will tell my friends too though.

Evening all

have finally managed it back on here!! getting through mounds of washing and settling back into routine but we had a lovely xmas hols

3 weeks away and no internet so have skimmed posts.

Well fleur is 7 1/2 months time really does fly. She is sitting up, only keels when she stops concentrating and she can stand holding onto sofa etc. She eats practically everything and anything now both puree and finger food. She also says papa and mmmuuuum but this last one only cause of hunger or tiredness!!
Sleep has been up and down what with different beds etc but has slept from 11pm to 6am several times

Sympathies and good luck to those starting back at work i think its tougher for us, fleur doesn't seem to mind at all.

Fleur had just got rid of cold last week of hols and now sore throat and cough are back so have dosed her up. Hopefully it'll help her sleep

well soz not more of a individual posting will try and stay around now im back

allnew I think (dont quote me) that the milk affects the absorbtion of protein. All the books I'm using (AK, GF etc) seem to advocate dropping the milk from a lunchtime protein meal and giving some water instead. Do you think your LO is ready to drop the lunchtime milk yet? If still having a full feed, maybe leave a gap until he's ready to drop it.

Re coil, I have one. Quite happy with it, as its eliminated period pain. I am still having periods though, which are much longer than normal. I think it can take a while to settle though and its only been a few months. Overall quite happy with it though. The senior practice nurse fitted it.

Hedgehog if you search around the Inland Revenue website, there is a leaflet you can print for your employers supporting the introduction of a salary sacrifice childcare voucher scheme. It saves the company money! Worth a try?

HH dont give away anything about 24!

whinegums - is it to avoid driving into Edinburgh city centre? I will have a think about poss venues if the others fancy venturing east.

Glad you london ladies had a good lunch!

just changed xmas name back Oh and Fleur dropped lunch feed and pm feed She now feeds at breakfast after her Breakfast then mid am and again at night 7pm and at dreamfeed

Essie I want to go to Oxford with you! I was there on my own when travelling years ago and I loved it but also found myself sad to be an academic but not there for an academic reason IYSWIM - I really would love to be there for a conference or a meeting. Not likely with the career path I've taken though!

allnew I've a copper coil and so far it's been fine except that I've had (TMI alert!) strange ovulation-like discharge constantly for the past five months. The doctor wasn't sure if it was related to breastfeeding with the coil or just if my cervix/uterus was slightly irritated with the copper. I think I'd be more concerned if we were definitely wanting another kid and I still have moments of worry but I do not want to be on hormones again (had chest pain on the mini-pill after DS1). Mine was fitted at the clinic too, not the GPs. The fitting itself was no bother after childbirth

Back again! Had a lovely day visiting relatives (and my Mum) and a trip to the clinic. Excellent news - Iestyn is 14 and a half lb! A stone! And, it was a different midwife-type person (not sure what they are; not midwives, not doctors, not hv but experts on children!) to usual, but the one who is normally at the bfing clinic, and she weighed Iestyn, whipped out a bfing growth chart, and he's no longer on the 0th (!!) centile on that chart.
But got chatting to a woman with a baby girl, who thought Iestyn was super advanced. I was quite puzzled, but then she said 'look, his head control/rolling etc is just as good as my baby's, and she's several months older'. I asked how old she was...and she was a week older! Ah, my life with a miniature baby!

Poppy we have a Link a doos chair too, but it doesn't look as good as the one 5GoMad posted a link to. Oh, no, just checked again - 5GoMad and I share a wedding anniversary and a vibrating chair!

Iestyn has started talking - we're getting mama, dada, baba. Not necessarily referring to anything, but it's a start! He's also trying to crawl, but doesn't normally manage it.

Right, will get ready to go to work tomorrow now. Sorry about the giant anticlimax! Quite bizarre, but it's a staff meeting and they want to formally welcome me. I'm looking forward, but we were about to train Iestyn to drop night feeds - he doesn't need them. But Mum thought I shouldn't attempt that for 2 weeks as he has too much going on in his little life what with nursery and me disappearing to work. She's probably right. Also nursery will be attempting to force persuade him to take a bottle. They've not failed so far, apparently.

Essie, lol at the woman thinking Iestyn is much younger, bless him!

Tbh, being on the small side is an advantage as far as other people's perceptions are concerned. I used to teach a seven year old who was the same size as most of the eleven year olds at our school and the dinner ladies and others who didn't have daily contact with him would often forget how young he was and expect him to behave in a more mature way than he did. Presumably this works in reverse if you're small?!

And hooray on him reaching a stone - having spent a day holding A on my lap on the train or at the restaurant, I would kill for a 14lb baby right now!

Essie- great news about the stone mark. [P&P muses that we speandall our time marvelling at how well babies do when they put on weight and are bitterly disappointed when we do the same!!]

Paro- super that you are back. Sounds like the hols provided much development for little Fleur.

Sponge- you should see her nappies!! Babypearls wasn't on great form today, I'm afraid....typically she chatted happily all the way home on th train.

So good to see Ali, Amber, Poppy and SPonge and their yummy babies today. They are all such characters! Was quite sad to leave but did glance back as we turned the corner and smile at the state of the floor. This is only the beginning!!!!!!

Watching 24 (not giving anything away...)...think my typing is annoying DH

Thanks for heads up on 24 - luckily it is repeated tonight on Sky2.

Bugger, going to have to rethink where DD is hgoing to school, having been to a meeting hey can't guarantee whether they will have made the decision to merge or not before we have to make our final prefernce choice, and if we risk it and they do she is going to spend to first couple fo years going to shool on abuilding site.

5 - sorry to hear about the school crisis

Paro - great to see you back, I was thinking about you today and wondering where you were. at Fleur - standing whilst holding the sofa, it goes too quickly.

Essie - hope you get a lovely welcome back tomorrow.

Is Ethan the only baby only just rolling and not doing much of that , still not sitting unsupported for more than a nanosecond, and nowhere near saying mama, dada etc? Wonder if it's the youngest child with older brothers thing? There's so much going on around that he can't get a word in!Rolf/Ernest/Goingto how are yours doing? Seriously though I don't think there's anything wrong, just wondered as I don't get to see other babies here of a similar age.

No

Deb, could well be youngest child syndrome - mum was telling me that my twin brothers both moved and talked much later than my sister and me. She said we gave them all their toys so no incentive to move, and I talked so much they couldn't get a word in edgeways!

(Don't think they started talking until they were two and a half!)

Deb if it makes you feel any better Iestyn won't stand. All the London ladies who have met him and held him will testify to this - hold him up and he folds his legs as if to sit on a chair. It's quite hilarious. UDC was reassuring (and she has an older child) and said he'll stand when he's ready and it's no biggie. The talking is odd - he was moving his mouth like a fish for a week, but yesterday realised that sounds could come out. And now he doesn't stop! He woke up whilst my mum was watching him just now, and she went to check on him and he said Mamamama. (But seriously, although he is totally amazingly talented, it's just a sound, not calling for me or anything.)

Aberdeen yeah let's meet in Oxford - must be somewhere in the middle between Anglesey and Aberdeen?! I was an academic there - did my Masters and DPhil there - and loved it. But I went back when I was 8 months preggers with Iestyn (to look at a manuscript!) and it was all strange, because I didn't 'belong', and I was walking around all these familiar places but they're no longer part of my life. Very, very odd - and not something I've ever experienced anywhere else. (And I lived in Aberystwyth for 4 years and was very happy there; but I go back and thing 'what a lovely place, I was happy here' but not tinged with sadness like Oxford. Mind you, Oxford was a big life changing thing for me.)

Ooh, too much philosophy at bedtime!

Any tips for getting antibiotics into a small wriggly baby? Babypearls has an ear infection (gets that from my side of the family...)

Oh, and the dayglo yellow antibiotic stains

allnew i had my mirena fitted by a gp at our practice who specialises in contraception. I had to have swabs taken first, to rule out any infection, and a telephone consult with him, to make sure it was suitable, then it was fitted in the surgery with GP and health care ssistant. felt like having a smear done but just took a bit longer (not much). then a check 4 weeks later. If it helps, the mirena doesn't look like a coil - more like a tiny plastic t-shaped tube, I think of it as a tampon with two bits coming out the top. Dp is v. squeamish and really didn't like the idea of me having a coil fitted, so I told him this isn't a coil, it's a mirena, that's completely different

worth talking through all the options with a gp or family planner who specialises in it, to check what's best for you.

And on protein and milk - i am v.slack and just figure none of ours are likely to end up with protein deficiency, so I don't worry about such fine tuning!

Essie love that they made you wait to be formally welcomed, feel this is symbolically a very good sign they will be nice to work with, such things matter.