June 08 - New Year same old sleepless nights

[hedgehog1979]

Bit bored so thought I would start the new thread

poppy I think I've seen the thread you mean. I often wonder what some of these militant mums are like in real life.

goingtohave is DS feeling any better?

They are particularly bad at the moment aren't they.

Re breastfeeding threads, I do find that the breastfeeding councillors, Tiktok and Hunker (but she isn't) have a very rounded approach but others are just down right callous.

poppy, some of the women on MN are total bitches IMHO . They are the kind of people though who probably don't say boo to a goose in RL but it's so easy to bully in cyberspace isn't it?

I used to have a Dilbert cartoon pinned on my notice board at work that said "You're mighty brave in cyberspace flameboy!" and I think that sums up a fair few posters on here.

I try not to read the feeding threads anymore cos they make me feel like I'm slowly killing Alex and that's not something I really want to think about tbh . (Plus it's total crap as most babies of our generation are ff and all my friends are perfectly healthy, slender, fully functioning, intelligent, adults - but try saying that on the bf threads and you'll be shot down in flames ).

Just stay with the June girls and don't stray - much the safest!

HH, gutted we won't be seeing you tomorrow .

Hi to everyone else!

thats exactly it - 5gomad - talk about lack of empathy . Part of reason I'm pissed off as my blocked duct still not cleared up which is a pain in the arse as I can see that I might still be getting treated when I go back to work in april. as thinking of trying for no 2 I'm now thinking whether I'll b/f at all ( which is really not what I want to do) but the option of having months of dealing with this (and the crapness of how I felt early on) with two doesn't really bear thinking about.

Oh but I am really killing S as he is on soya formula which means he will be impotent when he is older

agree sponge re the health thing - I look at edie who is clearly healthy then read what they say and it breaks your heart...

will be a bit late tomorrow but really looking forward to it

poppy echo what the others say about not leaving and hiding the threads. Have you tried olive oil soaked cotton wool in your bra to draw out the blockage. I had to do this when I had one and it helped as did trying to TMI* Alert pop it like a pimple when I was in a warm bath or shower

SBBP I almost told work it wouldn't work to meet at 11am, but then I wouldn't have been able to have the meeting for another 2 weeks and as I am supposed to be going back 02/02/09 it would have been cutting it fine.

ali if you are still on the look out for larger pram suits with feet try pumpkin patch they have it online, but not in my local store in 6 - 12, I got a 6-9 one in adams today so you might want to try there as well

5 and poppy, yep total lack of empathy. I hadn't heard that about the soya formula 5? There are so many scare stories about ff - but I really don't think it's a productive way of helping women bf.

What I needed was to be encouraged to stay in hospital longer, to be given much more advice about tongue tie, for someone to tell me my totally flat nipples were going to be make it almost completely impossible for A to latch, and to be given loads of support once he'd lost 13% of his birth weight in four days, not just sent home with a breast pump and told to express every three hours . If all that had been in place I would hopefully still be bfing now .

Being told that ffing is killing my baby is not helping one iota.

What breaks my heart is that A may well be my only baby and as he never fed from me I may never get to experience bfing.

Sorry, rant over . I really must get help to get over this - it's still too raw and it's been six months. I think reading all this bullshit on MN is not helping .

HH, sorry x-posted. Hope we can meet up again soon - I was going to pick your brains about food!

sponge nearly didn't post as knew it upsest you - we can commiserate tomorrow. what is the food prob? tried green veg tonight.. it wasn't very popular -even mixed into something else [not a ). however is loving drinking water from my glass.

HH I"ll try anything once..even consultant is bemused how long this has gone on - cos I've got no obvious milk leakage and breast back to normal but my little bump keeps filling up.

sponge you can still pick my brains about food on here, although today might not be a good day. Isaac decided he wanted some of my ham and cheese toastie earlier, and I had to keep it out of reach until it had cooled down, he was not impressed with that. Then when it had cooled down enough he took it put it in his mouth and screamed, tried the bit he had had and there was raw onion in it. Don't think my baby likes raw onion. To top it off, just now I was having some go ahead biscuits and he took the last one from the packet and sucked the sugar off and ate some of the raisins.

Oh and seeing Alex on youtube - you are definitely not killing him

I keep x poosting.
poppy does edie have an open cup? Isaac will just play with the spouts on the beakers he has and not take any. I do have a doidy but am worried that water will go everywhere

she does - its a cheapy ikea one (have had same issue with trainer cups is that they are treated as toys or make her cry).. it is dribbly but she is definitely drinking from it.

poppy, you're just as entitled to be pissed off as me, please don't feel you can't post .

HH, just looking for more ideas for varying A's diet - really wanted to surreptitiously watch Isaac and see how he manages! Just have to watch Peter instead!! (Ali, I promise I won't stare! ).

I don't let A hold the doidy cup himself cos it would go everywhere! I hold it by the base, and he holds the handles, that way he can drink in relative safety .

just checked out what a doidy cup is - what a good idea...although not sure I can fit it in the drawer full of edie food stuff (have left a bunch of unused food pots after the sicking up episode of last week... I thought it was only much later they start protesing about your food ).

Fairy power spray is amazing stuff when it comes to shifting hard to shift food stuff/stains.

Have just skim read two days worth and need to go get S's milk so just marking my spot!

Which one is the BF thread you talk about? Sponge I couldn't BF at all either after c section - not once. I also have flat nipples and it's actually not impossible, just difficult and with the right help it may be possible next time. Luke is beautiful, healthy and the happiest little boy around so I am happy. I can't and couldn't have changed anything about my not being able to BF so as much as I would have wanted to I will not get stressed out about it. Some people don't realise what an emotive subject BF is for those who can't do it for whatever reason - I know someone who still gets very upset even looking at a BF mother and her baby is 10 months old. Ignore those arseholes. Just don't read the feeding board any more or only open the threads you think will not hurt your feelings.

Thanks Amber. I know you're right. I will resolve to stop pouring salt into the wound .

Btw, I'll be at the restaurant by about 12.20pm tomorrow so you won't be Norma!

Alex is simply beautiful and seems to be ahead in terms of milestones of a lot of the babies on this thread (including mine!) so whatever you are doing, you are doing right and that includes feeding. He's a little chubby cherub and I can't wait to give him a squeeze tomorrow !

Aww, bless you .

Will Alex's birth buddy let me give him a squeeze in return?

He sure will - if you can keep him still for that long!

Josey thank you that looked perfect and also and also HH

However have decided to go to Oxford, maybe catch up with DH's niece who is at uni there and jsut go and spend hours in Blackweels bookshop and the Bodlian library. Have decided that this will be my birthday present, 2 nights away from DH, DC and the dog.

Thinking of staying here looks ok

5gomad - looks a great place - very grown up, have a great time. I am

Poppy and Sponge - keep away from those threads, it's not worth the upset. Just stay on here where we accept each other and the entirely different ways we care for your children. the only important thing is that we do care for our children. Other people should not make you question your parenting skills.

Evening all! A v. brief post as I'm single mum tonight and I just had to bfeed Iestyn back to sleep. (I panic that at 10.30 it's the start of a v. bad night - plus I'm going back to work tomorrow so need a good night.)

5GoMad I STAYED THERE!!! It's the best ever. A gorgeous hotel, really lovely. I stayed there the night of my D.Phil Viva. And I lived in Oxford for 5 years and miss the place like crazy - I was so happy there, it's a wonderful city. The hotel is nearly opposite St. Mary's church - go up the tower if it's a clear day. And it's on the same side of the road as the very lovely Grand Cafe - go there for afternoon tea. Oh, gosh, I love Oxford so much. I could write you a list of things to do! Go punting from Magdalen bridge! Go to the Botanic Gardens! Go and look at medieval manuscripts in the Bodleian...hang on, that's just me. Oh, can I come, can I, can I?

Sorry, I get totally gushing and overexcited thinking of Oxford. It was the happiest time of my life. Almost in tears thinking about it!

Right, got to go to bed because it's work tomorrow. Totally weird saying that!

Here, 5GoMad.