November 2008 - Cooing babies, tired ladies

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now I'm off to catch up.

The parcel cell looks like a good idea. Can't see any on ebay though

Tiger that is great thanks ... I will see if they send it to Italy ...I think the £136 is a bit tooooooo much dh might flip !
I just want to keep both dd dry if poss.Hence I thought of a cape /poncho thing .
When light rain dd1 can walk under her brolly and have mini poncho when going over bridges ...Its when its the heavy stuff + wind thats a pain.
Lacks is Bumble feeding yet???Sore boobs - nightmare I had an explosion this morning no idea why but had leaked everywhere,,minirosa had fed 2 hrs before.

lol I thought it was a bit pricey, too. I've got a double-breasted wool coat that I can fasten over IMi if I fasten the oter buttons through the inner button holes, IYSWIM. Works quite well, but a back carry is a bit more tricky!

Yup, Dasiy, parcel cell quite handy, esp. if you are putting pram in and out of car often. They do come upon ebay. Groovy stylewasd the best 'new' price I found, though.

Hope Bumble finds his appetite- your poor boobs have suffered for this baby, haven't they??

Quick question - P has his jabs tomorrow. Do I give calpol before or after? If before, how long before? If after, how long after? Better to give it using a syringe or a spoon?

Am v of all those who have had good nights - also very pleased for you all, but now wondering when a good night is going to happen in this house!! P regularly wakes 3 times a night, and is showing no signs of doing a long stretch of sleep! Help!!

Haven't got much time but wanted to share my good news...Sam slept from 10.30 until 7.30 last night without a feed...woohoo He did stir a bit at 3ish and I did think about feeding him but I put his dummy in instead as he was hardly awake and that seemed to do the trick

The bad news is that DS1 completely ruined the night by getting up at 4.30 and I had to do the 'back to bed' routine, favoured by Dr Tanya/Supernanny, at least 100 times for over an hour before he gave in and went back to sleep....grrr Although we did all sleep till 7.30 this morning

No doubt I will have to do it all again tonight as he seemed to think it was a huge joke - cue lots of giggling, silly walks back to bed etc from him!

DH and DS1 built a fab snowman this afternoon - will post a photo if I get a chance.

We have had 12 week immunisations tonight. Apparently they are alot worse, casue more unsettlement, because they have diptheria this time,or something that 1st immunisations at 8 weeks didn't have. Is that right ?

Juan, I ghive calpol before and after. Not sure what the rules are to be honest. But I give an hour or so before. And anytime, up to 3-4 hrs after. I give by syringe, but if spoon works- whatever easiest.
I have bought one of these:
dummy - I had one with ds1 and found it a godsend for giving medicine, until he wa older and a syringe was easier.

hi all, saw hv today who doesn't seem to think O has a tongue tie at all and that he is being lazy when feeding and to go back to feeding him as if he were a newborn. also if he doesn't finish a feed to express to stop mastitis starting

Tegan I hope she is right, but personally I would see doc or paediatrcican?

Calpol- I'm a wait and see-er, I'm afraid. Most symptomsseem to emerge a few hours after jabs, so I wait and give after- mine are usually in afternoon so I give calpol at bedtime, with a syringe.

Imi has her 12 week ones tomorrow.

Cebee fab news on the sleep. Imi still wakes up slightly and wriggles a bit at 11:30 ish but just goes back to sleep without crying, si I don't feed her either. OOh fingers crossed very tightly that this isn't just a blip!

I have a similar thing for medcine its a godsend. I also use a syringe ( they sell them over the counter here !!) -
Tiger its a front thing I am after as minirosa is in the baby bjorn when not in the pram ( and I have dd1 as well !) . We have a back carrier for when she is much bigger and we go in the mountains / big walks - mind you dd still oves it and I doubt she will give it up!
Jabs here are 12 weeks and then 20 weeks but I think they end up with the same dose of everything in the end.

Rosa.....I've found this, but it's a bit pricey

or else you get a proprietary cover for the Baby Bjorn.

calpol; I always forget to give it before the injections so usually give it after. 12 week ones I seem to remember DDs leg swelling up pretty badly on one side. It's meningococcal C that is different this time around.

bumble is full of beans this evening, and he has realised that he can get hold of things. He is playing with his little activity arch for the first time and getting very animated about it. He was trying to eat his juicy jungle cat toy earlier as well

juan re. jabs and Calpol, I waited to see how she was, and in the end we did give her some Calpol in the early evening as she was a bit grumpy and her temp was raised. But some people find they don't need to give them anything, so maybe wait and see? On the upside, you may find you get a good nights sleep as the jabs + Calpol equals much sleepyness!

We had a terrible night last night, for first time in ages. She wouldn't go down at 7pm (or 8pm, 9pm etc), she just screamed all night - colicky and overtired I think. In the end, it was DH who got her off to sleep at 12:30am. Phew. She looked shattered this morning, bless her.
Tonight she finally went down at 7:30pm on attempt no.3. And since she hasn't woken, it bodes well for a long sleep. It's one or the other with her, she either wakes within 5-10 mins, or sleeps for a long stretch.

How is everyone? I must have missed something, cause I read somethng about Obs and the police/social services? what is occurring here? is everything OK?

Sounds like lots of people are getting some good sleep which is brill. It's amazing how quickly things do get better really. When you think back to that first week when you were literally up all night some nights.

lacks hope Bumble resumes his appetite and that your sore boobs get better - you've really been through the mill with them.

Anyway - I must stop now - DH and I both sitting in same room, each on laptops. We should talk instead! Have a good night everyone x

I know the thing you mean. Tnere are a few diferent ones. I googled 'baby wearing cape' and a few things came up- the wilkinet one looked ok, I thought.

this one looks lovely, but is a bit more expensive

it's a bit cheaper here

sorry I started this post ages ago. DS has had a temperature and it's only just gone down, poor sausage!

I am a martyr to the BFing cause

I came to the conclusion with DD that I'm not a "natural" when it comes to BFing, and with her I didn't get my epiphany where it all slotted into place until she was about 16 weeks. I thought, naively, that it would be easier this time around, but if anything it's been worse!

It's one of the reasons I want to be a counsellor; because it is bloody hard work for some women but possible with the right support.

lacks, ruth, ceebee (sorry about DS) - congrats . But so on sleep throughs. A is great all day and goes to bed most nights latest 8pm , sometimes after more trying than others and wakes once for feeding before waking 6-7am. But sleep through seems def ages away .
obs - I hope that the nice meal next week will help you and DH get back on track. To be honest regarding a 'humdinger' ... me and DH havent had a humdinger for a week or so . We are definately not the quiet type of couple IYSWIM. Often joked with friends, who are the same in their relationships, that we are very vocal and passionate people and it is how we get on. Well that is the posh version anyway. Some people will think we are arguing when we arent. One of my long time friends and her DH never argue and she would a good arguement every now and again but she cant get him to do it no matter how she tries . His catchphrase to everything "it'll be alreght".
pinky - LOL at your DD1 wanting to 'squirt' . Havent kids got cool and surprising way of thinking and saying things .
dozymare - Thanks for your comment regarding my photos . I have a beaten up sony ericsson k800i mobile that i use to take photos. I love it even though its scratched beyond belief (thanks DS) and doesnt look pretty anymore. Would be lost without it. MASSIVE congrats on your weightloss. I really need to get my arse in gear. I'm one of those people that talks a good game but cant motivate to get on with it.
ruth - Glad DH realises how much you do . Although regarding your discussion with DH my DH would respond with one of his favorite phrases at the mo "never good enough". Wonder why that is dear ... the fact that you only do half a job or create more work for me along the way . DH does, sometimes, annoy me about interaction with DS. He may be supposed to be having "quality" time with DS whilst I catch up on housey stuff for me to pop back to see what they are up to and DH be on pooter and DS stood staring at TV only a foot away from it. Anyone elses DH only play set things? Read, cars and so on nothing messy or that may involve getting on the floor to play? DH is a good dad dont get me wrong and he does stuff like taking DS swimming every weekend but just little observations i've made. I crawl all over floor with DS and allow "DS" to cook to some degree (stirring or I pretend he is doing it when its me really) and do playdo and so on.
monkey - sorry to hear about your bad night but she soon righted herself. A has a "wobbly" time every now and again just to keep us on ours toes.
ME - JUST FED A, no sleep through and put her down. A been her usual great self. DS his usual fantastic with the occasional testing moment for good measure. DH same as DS . Me an DH went out with friends last night for lovely Indian in Sheffield for DH birthday (today 20th) and his friend's birthday (19th). Lovely time when we got there eventually... these mutual friends (husband DH friend and wife my friend are how me and DH met) are great but trying to organise where to go is ALWAYS a nightmare. Even with me and DH saying we will go ANYWHERE it took about a week to decide. In the end we went to a place they were recommended BUT got lost for ages trying to find it?! When we got home my mum (mum baby sat at ours) said joking "cant do this babysitting lark too hard" after A went to bed 7.30pm and DS after being allowed up longer for quality time went at 7.50pm .
OFF now to put up ballons and banners for DH birthday today. We are having a family party when DH getting home. Mainly for DS benefit to be honest and he is SOOOOOOOO excited. Been going on about it for a week now and DS and DH were even chatting in the swimming pool on Sunday about what food they both wanted.

FORGOT - Couldnt stop myself swearing in front of DS on Sunday ... put peas in microwave but not on yet, turned my back for a second if that and turned back around, saw DS closing microwave door, I told him off saying "you know only mummy does microwave as its burny and will hurt Ryan", i set the microwave going. A minute later just passing microwave and look to see DS metal spoon coming into view. S*t! S*t! Was my phrase as I quickly turned the microwave off. THE MONKEY!

Well done to all these babies that are starting to sleep better!
I can't belive out LOs are coming up to three months soon
Jay was weighed yesterday he is 14lb 2oz, little porker!
He is over the CP now thank god! I can't wait to get out and about again and actually be able to SEE people!

Right am off to catch up properly!

Vbab I honestly thought Sam was a long way from sleeping through as his sleeping pattern was exactly the same as A's and he would always drink a lot during his night feed so don't give up hope.

Anyway, it didn't work last night! Sam fed at 7.30pm and then I tried a dreamfeed at 10.30 but he was literally dead to the world and would not entertain it all...so he woke at 5.30 for a feed so still a 9 hour stretch which is good but not quite a 'sleep-through'.

DS1 also only got up once for his 'Thomas stories' and went straight back to bed and stayed in it....but we had given him Medised last night as he is really really snotty

ceebee, the same thing happened to me last night with the dream feed - tried to wake him at 10.30, but there was no rousing him! He stayed fast asleep through a nappy change and nothing else I tried woke him up either! He has been taking less and less at the dream feed as each day has passed - he used to feed for about 20 mins, and gradually this dwindled to about 5, and then last night nothing! Are you planning on dropping this feed? I really don't know what to do - there doesn't seem much point carrying on with it if he's going to take so little or nothing at all, but I would be happier dropping it if I thought he might have a really long stretch of sleep, but he still hasn' managed more than 5 hours at a time, most of which is in the early evening unfortunately! Has anyone else dropped the dream feed? If so, how has that worked out for you?

jaunita, I never saw the point of waking a sleeping baby to feed it in the hope it would sleep for longer the next stretch as ime it just doesn't work. Far better as well to let them find their own natural sleep patterns as I think they sleep better that way.

bumble gets a feed at 10ish, but he's awake until that point usually, so it's his bedtime feed.

Another eight hour stretch last night 11 till 7, but I'm not counting my chickens just yet!

He's a grump monster this morning though.

vbab, I love a good argument healthy debate as well, but DH is more reserved. Takes a lot to get him riled.

glad J is better ladybuzz and you can get out and about again.

I feel rubbish today. My cold, which never really cleared up seems to be stepping up a gear again and I have pain in my kidneys, so a quiet day here.

Hi all,

V quick post as I have buggered up the routine again as Fin would not go to sleep until because - get this - I had half a grapefruit at 9am yesterday morning. Bloody breastfeeding! I really like grapefruit, but apparently, that's it - no more citrus for me until the child is weaned. Grr. So he wibbled and whinged from about 11 or 12 until 1 yesterday.

Vbab I get Fin to "help" with sorting the recyling - he seems to like the noises and looking at the shiny tins. It takes about 4 times longer but it's good to start them on environmental issues at an early age. PMSL at the spoon - my SIL had her son trained up to take his plate through to the kitchen from as soon as he could walk and carry a plate at the same time. What she hadn't realised is that he was helpfully tipping the whole plate into the bin (cause he thought that was what she was doing when she scraped the plates!). He also used to helpfully put things into the washing machine to be cleaned, like socks, dog bowls, mobile phones. She NEVER just puts a load of washing in there now without checking it first - that Nokia was never the same again...

Lacks, I am just about to wake my grump monster. I think I'll do it by reassuring him that no citrus has passed my lips and that I've got a lovely pair of corduroy dungarees warming on the radiator. His wickle clothes are so cute. Does anyone else get misty-eyed doing the laundry when they find a tiny sock or ickle vest, or have I just totally gone to the dark side and am lost to feminism forever? It's the bottoms on the dungarees, though - he looks more like a teddy bear than a baby. Keep having to remind myself he's a little person, not a dolly.

Weird thing - last night I called him Catweazle as I was changing him (because I am a nice loving mummy and because he was being a tool) and he sort of repeated it back in a babbly sort of way - like "gaaaaaweez". Don't get me wrong - I am not claiming first words at 10 weeks, FFS!!! Plus, I'd hate to admit that his first word was Catweazle. But I thought it was interesting that they mimic in their babbling. He is a very babbly baby when he gets going. DH says he said "baby" the other day, but that was just totally babbling, cos he also said "mum" 4 weeks ago but it was really just a burp...

Hana, love the thread title!

Monkey, yo!

Obs, how's it going today? My DH and I had a chat about smoking last night and he is going to quit but wants my support. Fine, although he did admit that I needed to know he is smoking before I can help him to quit . I hope you and yours are okay, was thinking of you last night and wondering how it was going.

Right, I MUST get the boy up or he will be stuff all use tonight.

lol rutho.....our first gifted and talented child

DD has a cuddly lamb that has a lavender wheatbag inside and heats up in the microwave. Every time I turn round now she's trying to stuff one or other of her toys in there. Thankfully she can open the door but not get to the buttons. We are having a mexican standoff this morning. she won't settle for a nap, but I've told her there's no stay'n'play this afternoon if she doesn't sleep. She will be obnoxious later if we do stay'n'play on top of no sleep; she's bad enough in the house with no nap.

hey hana ; sounds like you have been busy.

My TV keeps crashing this morning, as does the internet connection . Called virgin and the woman was bloody useless and is sending an engineer out, even though the problem appears to be at their end as I still get the little tv guide box at the bottom of the screen, just no sounds or picture and a panel coming up saying "this channel is not available, please try another channel"

Hi everybody, not had chance to catch up in recent days and have just skimmed through the thread. Quick post too as I'm meeting up with NCT friends this afternoon.
Very of these babies sleeping though the night! The best we've had is 11pm to 5am. I live in hope...
Obs Hope things are better with your DH. It does sound as though he's latched on to that comment and is worrying himself silly about it but not talking to you about his fears. I hope the police/ambulance people were able to reassure you - surely a hypo is extenuating circumstances. Glad M is sleeping a bit better, hopefully he'll gradually go for longer and longer.
Everything fine here - my sister babysat E yesterday whilst I was at the dentist and had to deal with an explosive poo! All credit to her though, she bathed and changed E without any problems even though she'd never done it before and has even volunteered to babysit again She seems besotted with her niece!
Will be back later to catch up on this afternoon's chat!

Juanitad the dreamfeed with Sam is very hit and miss tbh. We had stopped it before Sunday as he was rarely taking any and it made no difference to the time he woke up but on Sunday, he was still awake at 10 so I thought I would feed him as it had been 3 hours since his last feed and it would make it easier for him to settle (not that he needs much help on that score!) and he subsequently slept until 7.30 - I thought I had cracked it until last night when the lips were clamped shut again

DS1 also loves putting things in the washing machine - have found all sorts in there! He loves putting stuff in the bin aswell - we have a blue recycling crate and a grey kitchen bin... DS1 puts everything in the blue recycling bin, even though he knows it is different, so DH has to pick through it to remove all food etc

Hana I love that title and not long to go before we need it either. Have been trying to find a cinema up here that does 'mums and babies' sessions as I am fed up of never going to the cinema and missing all the good films....apparently it is not a concept which has reached these shores yet - far too modern for us northerners clearly!

Ruth I love dungarees on my boys but DH hates them with a passion!! I think they just look so cute in them. Dh also accuses me of treating Sam like a dolly