November 2008 - Cooing babies, tired ladies

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now I'm off to catch up.

lol londonboots, the "isn't he big/small for x weeks" has replaced the "aren't you big/small for x weeks" of pregnancy ...which we all liked to have a rant about.

but as I say that a lot!

Rosa thats the one I really wanted but so expensive over here.

Londonbootslol at odd sized babies - its the hoods that get me, some of the are 3x the size of Jays head.

daisy sorry to hear about your mum and at her 'knowing' about DS.
It is really hard it breaks my heart that she never got to meet mine

obs and only today I was singing your dh's praises to my Mum and dh for buying you a laptop for xmas. He sounds like such a nice bloke - is this an emotional reaction to all the lack of sleep and stress? Hope he can work it out and glad you have supportive SIL. I also feel more tired sometimes when I get more sleep, I think body finally relaxes a bit and realises what it's been through. Your body has been through A LOT with the incredible lack of sleep on top of the diabetes. Hope at this very minute things are getting more sorted...really do. You are a lovely and amazing person and we all love you on here even though most of us have never even met you. You are just lovable even in the written form!!!

barbs hope your dh rang again and you have had a nice day watching 'catchup' TV ! Glad you ate all the biscuits. They deserved you!

I was feeling so pleased with my babies till I read all your posts about mega sleeping babies...baby Awissa slept so well last night 8.30pm - 2.30am and then 7.04am, so technically out of the 'night' (although 7.04 is still night for me ) so I think we can say she only woke once!!! Judo however was not quite as good (11.30,2.30,5.00) and neither were my boobs. I was up at 1.45am in so much pain, I had to get up and go downstairs to express. Hopefully they will adjust.

Coolkat was it you bought the medela? I have a medela 'pump in style' (can you EVER pump in style?! ). Anyway, it is totally fantastic and not noisy at all.

obs how are you? Has you had the chat about it? I am also very as it seems very out of character from what you have told us about your DH.

merrymarigold has summed you up nicely Obs..."lovable even in the written form" , although I can add spoken to that as well . I hope you are OK.

Just a quickie before my tea is ready - those of you coming to the meet-up next Friday, I have e-mailed you all via FB so can you check it when you get a mo

Obs I'm also shocked to hear this news. From what you've said about your DH in the past and also yesterday I'm very surprised he could be even contemplating this. Is it the lack of sleep/problems with DS2 do you think? Or is there something else bothering him? It seems a very extreme reaction. Hope you can work things out very soon.
Mummynic at your LM's attitude. I really hope the union can help you out. I used to work in central government and know exactly what it's like. They'll back down if there's any threat of a court case, although I sincerely hope it won't come to that. You shouldn't have to be dealing with this at the moment.
Ladybuzz The christening sounds lovely and having it in the church with such close connections with your Mum is even more special.
We're not religious but we are thinking of perhaps having a naming ceremony for E - the registrar comes to perform the ceremony and you can choose your own readings, a bit like a civil wedding. Is anybody else thinking of doing this?
londonboots welcome back
Coolkat I have a Medela swing pump and I'm really pleased with it. Not sure how noisy it is because I've got nothing else to compare it to but I'm very happy. It's quick and efficient and best of all an NCT friend sold it to me for £10
Had a lovely day with E today - we went to a mum and toddler group this morning with my neighbour and her 15 month old DS. E slept for most of it but I chatted to a few of the mums in the baby corner who were really nice. This afternoon I took E into town in her new buggy and she happily stayed in it, unlike yesterday when I spent the day pushing an empty buggy around Bluewater because E was happy only in the sling I got photos taken for her passport and also opened a bank account for her.

Quick question re expressing:

How come I can only express a significant amount, say min 3oz in the morning. When ever I try in the evening I get less than 1/2 oz? How can I get more in the evening?

Many thanks in advance

coolkat, your supply will naturally dwindle through out the day so expressing in the evening tends to be less productive for most women. Mornings are the best time as the nighttime workings of breastfeeding hormones mean you have a good supply lined up for the next day.

If I express in the morning, I get three or four letdowns throughout the pumping session and get oodles, but in the evening, I'm lucky if I even get one letdown; depends how much DS has been feeding. I think you can train your body to express more at a specific time but can't remember they whys and wherefores of it.

Have a look at the stuff on kellymom about pumping; it explains it much better than me!

mummynic - sorry to hear about your work problems. So . Go get em girl. Good news from union .
ruth - Excellent news on 11-6.30am and I thought A did well doing 11-4am.
obs - Sorry to hear about what your DH has said. Dont really know what to say hun. When me and DH for a long time recently werent getting on, stuff was getting too heavy so we had VERY, VERY nasty arguements and a number of times we considered not being together OR may have even said it a couple of times but we are still together even if not completely ok. Hope things get resolved for you both.
coolkat & ladybuzz - the aria does say from birth but I think that is with the car seat. I looked at it reclined today and it doesnt go completely flat. So not sure ... should it be flat?
coolkat - Hope you feeling better after your walk.
juanitad - hope the aria is ok for you.
betti - My DH is doing my head in about resuming things. I've not been interested many reasons, just to name a few, tiredness, bad body image after baby, constant arguing so sorry for not wanting to have SEX and also bad wish DH would make more of an effort appearance wise and many other ways. Not found him that attractive . S**T thought I said that in my head . DH goes on about SEX, my body and referring to other people's SEX issues such as one guy said to girlfriend "i didnt sign up to be a bloody monk" so much so he is making me feel uncomfortable. Also told DH until my period when I can go on pill NOTHING will happen but he still goes on! Speaking of period happened today so I better start trying to squeeze into lingerie! YER RIGHT.

Daisy what is a "letdown"?? I mean, what do you mean when you say you get a number of them?

coolkat I think Daisy is right about training your body to express at a certain time - when I started expressing I only got 1-2oz max from both breasts but now I am regularly getting 3-4oz each night - I always express at 9pm.

Sorry for not catching up with everyone - we have watched a film tonight so I need to express now before bed. Night all. x

Evening all.

No word from Obs?

I got my door sanded - I remembered that a mate's gf (knows DH well so not totally random) loves babies and has no job and lives 5 mins drive away so she Fin-sat while I did DIY, which was more fun than I remembered.

DH has just put Fin down and offered to do the middle of the night feed, should there be one. Bless that man, he is not all GTA4 and toenail clippings. And we are decorating the bathroom this weekend.

Nookie, yes x3 (should that be yes yes yes?), although not in the last week or so. Both 2 tired because of trying to get Fin into a routine!

Breastpumps - anyone else using the Boots hand pump? It seems quite effective although I am either going to end up with a killer grip like Clarice Starling, or RSI.

Right, off to snuggle on the sofa as Friday nights are my night off. And I am feeling virtuous about my DIY and the fact that I did an hour's walking again today, so I am allowed another glass of red...

Hugs to all, esp Mummynic and Obs, hope the dawn brings better news all round.

Buzz and Lacks - commiserations and hugs: My mum died when I was little and it is nice/weird when Fin looks like her sometimes. Don't babies provide a good opportunity for happy memories and family reminiscing? I have heard more about my mum as a young mother and myself as a baby in the last 3 months than ever before and my aunt gave me the changing bag and baby sleeping bag my mum made for me and passed to her sister to use with my cousins.(iyswim).

Anyway, off to the sofa in a reflective frame of mind... Night, all.

A - Last night feed at 10.30 then bed 11pm-4am. She did have literally one scream at 2am. I found out in her sleep when I got to the side of her basket so I climbed back in bed. Then up at 7.30am. But didnt feed until gone 8am. Sorry GF . I think she is doing great BUT cant wait for sleep through though. PLEASE god let it be soon. Saying that still some way to go to catch up with some of your babes.
She has done 2 massive poos today in succession after not doing any for a few days. Maybe the injections? Was as ruth would say Poomageddon .
MY TEA - DS went to bed 7pm and A at 7.30pm . So me and DH had a FULL english for T . My favorite meal, yes sad I know. But in the spirit of my trying to lose weight resolution I cooked it ALL except fried egg on the George Foreman. So I guess ok . WAS GORGE. Even DH commented and he never does even when something is bad.

choco, when baby starts sucking it stimulates your letdown reflex, which is the reflex that tells your body to make milk. Some people feel it as a burn or a tingle or a tightening. For me it's like a band tightening around my boob just behind the areole and can be quite sore on first feeding. I can feel it two or three times during a feed, but it gets less obvious towards the end.

some more info from the oracle that is kellymom

bless rutho, it must be hard as a first time mum not to have your own mum around, although your stepmum sounds lovely from your previous posts. that is lovely about the changing bag and sleeping bag though; using something for your baby that you used as a child

Bumble has a look of my mum about him; although I sometimes think that's wishful thinking! He definately has her nose.

I'm having horrible hot flushes this evening......maybe my body has had enough of baby and with 40 fast approaching I'm peri-menopausal?

I've had a few glasses of red wine tonight and feel rough!

Added a couple of pics comparing DS and A . The photos are good examples but I think you get the idea. Was nice looking through DS's baby photos . Nice to remember when he was just like A and all happy and smiley rather than the 2&half year old who goes from happy and smiley to this angry or hysterically emotional or not listening little boy.

NOT good examples. DUH!

Just to let you know that I am here. Not much to report. I made a real effort and phoned him and asked him if he would like me to cook him curry - way to his heart = make him curry/lasagne etc.
He said that that woukd be nice.
So I did. and that was it. no 'real' chat.
m so shocked.e seems to be playing it down. And we are just getting onwith things. I can ONLY assume, as he has admitted, that he is very tired, worried about me, max, and worried that the children will be taken into care, if I have another violent hypo.

My sil has been feeding max formula for the last couple of nights. I am not sure what to do about the bf. Dh wants me to stop. I am not sure if I have any milk left anyway. I think I may resent him, if he forced me to stop.

Oh decisions, decisions.

Oblomov At least you were able to sit at the same table and eat a meal together..looking on the positive side.

Maybe no 'real talk' for a little bit is not so bad- let the dust settle?

How do you feel about the bf? Do you think you need the breaks -ie rest- that you sil can give you more than you neeed the bf? Maybe mixed feeding is the way to go?

I agree with you that if you stop because you think it's a way of appeasing DH then that would not be healthy, but if it means you get a break and able to look after your health more it could be a positive choice for you and family.

It will only work if you are happy with the choice.

love to you and your little ones. How is little max doing?

vbab you have a beautiful family! Your little boy- 2.5 seems so grown up compared to a baby, but they are still soo young! Ds still does a bit of biting, pushing etc. at 3.5. I always feel mortified, but it's all pretty normal toddlerish behaviour. It must be so difficult coping with the barage of human emotions they are feeling!

We are off to make bird boxes this morning, hopefully not in the rain!

Morning all,

Obs, glad to hear from you, I was worried for you last night. Agree with Stripey that food+not talking about it was probably the way to go last night. Big hug for today.

Aw, cute photos, Vbab - and you will look back when he's come out of the other end of his toddler tunnel and smile at them.

GTG, off getting a cot mattress for my massive infant this morning. He is now too big for his moses basket and keeps waking himself up when he smacks the sides with his little fists.

Mind you, he slept from (drum roll) 9.30 til 4.30 last night!

Woohooooo!

If I hadn't had that 3rd glass of red I would feel so rested right now.

Laters!

good luck with the shopping rutho.

IMI Slept well, too last night. down at 7:30 then feed at 4:30 then back to slep til 7:30 wohoo! Just need to get myself to go to sleep now. My head is rather in bits at the mo

Love Vbabs photos.
Please could someone tell me where me profile has gone. I changed at Christmas to OblomovOYeFaithful, but now it says I have no profile set up for Oblomov. How do I get my old one back ?

Thanks for tips on expressing.

Rutho I did have the boots manual pump however the pump bit seemed to fold over itself so kept 'stalling' IYSWIM?

Used my Medela this morning, quite pleased, put some more in the freezer.

Obs, sorry useless at the Yech type stuff.

Well I think I am going to put Becca in her own room tonight

So craving chocolate but don't have any Arghhhhh, had some strawberries, rasp's and Kiwi but it hasn't hit the spot!

DH at work and I am having a clean, how sad is that, DD1 driving me mad with her HSM CD.

Feel sorry for DH as he knows I am feelng a little low but I need to reassure him that I am fine, I am, but if I did not talk to him and tell him how I was feeling I would be breaking a promise I made him but now I have made him worry.

Anyhow, sorry for pointless post!