November 2008 - Cooing babies, tired ladies

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now I'm off to catch up.

Obs, sorry things still feel up in the air adn I hope you can sort things out soon. I agree about giving up the BF for DH's sake; it might lead to future resentments. If you give up, it has to be for you as well. Your supply should be pretty well estanlished now, so perhaps, as Pinky suggested, mixed feeding is the way to go. Is the worry about the kids being taken into care a real one? or one that he has got himself in a state over nothing about? Is it likely to happen?

Re your profile.....go into My Registration, and then the last link on the header, public details. Just above the Update Public Details form, there is a link called profile mover page. click on that and you'll be able to move your profile to your old nickname.

I went shopping today, just me and Bumble as the boys are fishing and DD is at the PILs. Bought a lurvely leather satchel in GAP to use as a changing bag. It's so soft and lovely and was half price in the sale. Also got some bits for DD, and an Elmo fleece hoodie for Bumble. It's red with just Elmo's smiley features on and is gorgeous. Bumble was laughing and talking to it earlier

Feel knackered today.....damn red wine

Off to stroke and sniff my new bag (I have a real leather fetish....but not in a kinky way!!)

oh, I'm worried that bumble is getting a bit of a flat head at one side at the back. It looks really noticeable to me, and you can definately feel it. He sleeps with his head to the one side all the time, and although we've tried to get him to face the other way when sleeping, his neck is like a stiff gate and he always pings back to where he is comfy. Any suggestions/advice????

Hello.

barbs, now you have made me wonder what on earth your post was that was removed! [emoticon with big, long nose!]

Walked to local shops today with dh and kids and bought meat, veg and some bits in Somerfield. Was totally shattering. Going to bed in few minutes at 8.30pm! V of your late nights, guys...I feel like I have no life or identity going to bed an hour after kids which leaves me enough time to hang some washing out.

Dh driving me mad switching channels every - ooh - 40 seconds or so, between UFC (which I hate, hate, hate) and Friends (which I like but have just seen too many times now). Why can't he watch one thing? Is it something to do with the male brain?

Obs, glad nothing 'final' has happened yet. I'm sure you will be able to talk soon, you guys sound like you're very open and honest with each other which is . Your dh sounds like such a good bloke, and that's because you always say such nice things about him. You obviously love him and respect him a lot, all that blokes want really (and a decent curry every so often, not to mention the multiple shags ). You are both lucky to have each other. It's amazing you have managed this far, the stress you have been under... I wouldn't beat yourself up over the formula...you need to look after yourself to take of the kids. That's a lot more important than what milk they get. I am bf fan myself, but not at the expense of more important things like sleep, sanity etc. My ds2 gets formula quite frequently as his last feed, just to buy me some sleep really. I am amazed you have managed to keep it going so long. Have you got a good pump? Makes a huge difference if you are trying to express enough for several feeds.

Lacks, the bag and the fleece sound lovely.

vbab, they do look very alike...very cheeky!!! Great idea looking at ds's baby photos, I have been thinking of making a photo book for each year of my babies lives. One day. When I have some time! Mostly for my benefit I think!!

Lacka, I feel your pain re: red wine. I am knacked.

Mm, new handbags...

I thought the flat head thing just resolves itself when they were older anyway? I know you can get all sorts of interesting cushions etc to prop babies' heads up - I think jojomananbebe do things like that.

Hi Obs, fingers crossed over here for you. I have no constructive ideas but hope things get better. Sorry, not much use.

DH has started smoking again. V v cross but somehow I just can't be bothered having it out with him, although when he asked a friend for a fag in town I did challenge him and tell him it was "beyond crap". I am an ex-smoker and I know it's hard, but he promised. Just like he promised he was going to get the bathroom done. It's also not the fact that he's started smoking again, it's the fact that he was so sneaky about it - when I asked him last night if he had started again he said no he hadn't, and then, "well, only the odd one". AIBU to feel that sad about this?

Small potatoes, I know, and I am probably making a mountain out of a molehill, but lately it comes across to me as if he feels saddled with me and Fin and wishes his life could just stay as it was, without any of the hassle of having a little baby. I got him to read Fin a story and put him to bed tonight, but I feel like he should want to do that, rather than have to be asked. I think maybe he is depressed, but he won't talk about it, just says work is stressful.

Whinge whinge whinge, sorry for me post. Is probably the weather. Or maybe I am due on.

Coolkat I think I have the same situation but I am in your DH's place and I would much rather he talk to me than bottle it all up in case he worries me. I am sure your DH would rather know how you are feeling. Did you get your jeans, btw?

My breast pump did that foldy thing - I took it back and got a replacement from the teenage male assistant - he was so embarrassed he didn't even ask for my original receipt!

And your post is not pointless, it's good to know how you are doing.

Hi Merry, xpost as I took so long to type the last one! Laundry, sleep, bfing, shopping - sounds about right! I am so in awe of you doing all this with an existing little one and now twins, you amazing lady. Have a virtual gin on me!

vbab, I've just looked at your pics; they are both gorgeous and very alike

Bumble is very like DS1 at the same age, and I should try and get some pics up to show that, but I've lost the lead for my camera.......again!!

Merry...hugs to you. It must be so hard with two of them, probably more than double the work. Can you get some time out? Maybe go for a swim or even just a nice walk in the park.

rutho, I think men find the whole fatherhood thing very overwhelming. Even though they've had the same amount of time as us to get used to the idea, it doesn't really hit them until after the baby is born.

the majority of them get over it and settle down to fatherhood really nicely. the smoking is, as you say, beyond crap though. My DH is meant to be giving up as well (sonce dD was born!!) and still hasn't...in spite of DS watching the lung cancer ad on TV and telling DH that he didn't want him to die

coolkat...are you OK?

Evening all!
Rutho hmm...no wonder you're cross with your DH over resuming smoking. Bad lad. Maybe it's a sign he's feeling more relaxed about parenthood? Or alternatively a coping mechanism! Bad that's he sneaking about doing it though. Boys, boys...

coolkat are you ok? you sound like you're feeling down? Glad you expressed OK with your pump!

lacks - ahh.. now I have a name for that weird sensation I get when I'm pumping! Oh wise one!
The giant Plum is still rejecting the bottle most of the time . She must have read the slogan "breast is best" and taken it literally...

obs i think the meal together sounds like progress. I know if my and DH have a real humdinger, we don't actually talk about it for ages, when you are both hurting, a little kindness and civility can be just as healing as a big "talk". good luck - you are such a trooper, and I'm sure your DH loves you even more than all of us do!

Plumski was so, so overtired tonight, she actually went down dot on 7pm. DH cooked tea, so I have had a lovely chat on phone with friend, drunk 2 glasses of red wine, and am feeling ok.

Hope everyone is having a decent weekend - laters.
x

Hi all been trying to read a few pages but there has been so much happening.
obs sending hugs to you hope you get things sorted out, I havent been here long but you sound like a lovely person so fingers crossed for you.
rutho first of all congratulations on the weight loss, I have just started a fat club myself (meant to be bridesmaid at me sisters wedding in july) will be standing beside 2 stick thin young girls . DH doesnt play world of war craft but defo plays medal of honour and day of defeat and I too hear him going on "raids" I have a laugh to myself when he is shouting at computer.
betti normal service not resumed here either tried one night but i could not relax at all, then cried??? (hormones)
Coolkat sorry to hear your feeling a bit down and I understand what you mean about not wanting to worry DH but having to tell him, my DH is away just now and I am fine this time but suffered badly the last time, was on the phone to my mum the other night and mentioned was a bit fed up and she said oh your not depressed are you? I am glad she is there for me but feel like I cant have a moan without being asked if you know what I mean.
lacka no advice re bumbles head sorry, M always has her head to one side too and like you have tried moving it but she just moves it right back. Will need to look in gap for the lovely bag, have just got a quinny buzz and currently using my beloved Radley as a change bag as the tiny bag you get with buzz is just not practical.
On a postivie note my girls are both in bed sleeping I took DD1 to see bedtime stories today and it was good just me and her spending some time on our own for a few hours, my mum came up to watch dd2. Oh and noticed while at the cinema they are doing a showing on weekday mornings called Newbies where parents can take their babies with them to watch a film no charge for baby and the lights are up a bit more and the film sound is turned down a bit, not sure how much you would get to watch tho!!
Wow that was my longest post ever.

merrymarigold - Sorry to say I really like UFC . Your post just reminded me and DH because we forgot after watching Demons. DH is pissed off now because he has missed loads and the repeat isnt until Tuesday.
rutho - sorry to hear about your DH smoking on the quiet. My dad quit for a lot of years after smoking from being young which was great but when his mum died he started back up and hasnt been able to quit since. He has tried a number of times and put my mum through hell. But to be honest for how much we want him to quit I dont think he ever will as I honestly dont think his heart is in it. But on a good note as you are an ex smoker you can prob understand and support your DH whereas my family to some degree cant understand what my dad is going through as non of us have smoked.
DIARY - Had a lovely bath earlier to relax after a manic day of spending time with DS, doing all house work inc washing and A who has been upset a lot today which is so unlike her . Whilst in the bath I took my dairy from 06/07, when DS a baby, to read . MEMORIES ... was good to remember and also useful to see DS milestones such as weaning starts (16wks), first tooth (23wks), first roll over/attempt crawl (16wks) and first sleep through (16wks) etc. But also saw a note regarding maybe being pregnant the time when I had a miscarriage . But a month later I had my girl A on her way .

Going to go now and keep on drinking my bottles of beer . My night off and lie in tomorrow, DS permitting .

Morning Ladies,
Merry you have my sympathies my DH loves the UFC and I hate it too! Luckily we don't have Setanta so he has to watch it on the pooter so does't bother me .

Rutho sorry DH is smoking on the quiet, DH makes any excuse for a fag - ie 1 mouthful of beer - 'but I like a fag with a pint but thankfully hasn't taken it back up, but I know what you mean it is the sneaking about thats annoying!

Coolkat how did the sleepng in own room go last night?

Jay is getting better, bless him the spots seem to have stopped coming out now and the ones he has are scabby - eww
He has been fine with it thank god and doesn't seem to have been any different to his normal self.

Hope everyone is having a lovely weekend

Morning everyone

UFC??? What the heck is it? I have never heard of it

Obs so glad that you were able to have a civil evening together - maybe a bit of space is what you both need...how is it going this weekend?

Daisy your bag sounds lovely - I want a new changing bag as the one we have is the original M&P one we had with DS1 so is over 2 years old now and a bit worse for wear...I wonder if I could pick a lovely leather one up from the Trafford Centre on Friday...

Vbab your photos are gorgeous! My 2 DS's are/were so identical at birth even though they look like complete opposites now I will post some photos of DS1 as a newborn asap so you can all see

Hi to everyone else...am also wondering what was in Barbs post - I had read it last night and can't remember anything 'controversial'!

Had a lovely day yesterday - went to the gym in the morning and then we all went for a walk round a local reservoir - it took well over an hour and I was carrying Sam in the sling so mega calorie burn there!! DS1 was really good and walked a lot of it too - was nice having some 'family' time!

Hope you are all having good weekends

Also, we have tried different things with Sam this week to see if we can get him to sleep through - have 'tanked him up' in the evening with 3 feeds every 2 hours, have given him a dreamfeed, and last night, fed him at 7.30 and then forgot to feed him at 10.30 (was too tired) - and whatever we have done he has slept until 3/4ish and woken up for a feed.....strange!!

I think we will stick to what we did last night - last feed sometime after 7 and then I can have early nights

Hi Ladies

Ah dont be waste in your worries on me I am fine, fighting away the depressive demons that haunt me from the closet

I must get out and meet some friends!

Lacks Sounds like you had a good shopping trip, Bag sounds Lurvly. I saw a gorgeous Radley bag in the airport last year and so regret not getting it as I did not have the money at the time, never seen one like it since

Ceebs sounds like you had a nice day and are having good weekend.

Obs how are you doing hun? Hope your having a nice weekend despite everything thats going on.

Rutho Hows the decorating going. for you at your DH, make him pay girl, could you not bribe him for a bit of hows your father ! Got my jeans, stupidly tried the 10's, cut off oxygen supply! So 12's it was.

Ladybuzz, Becca slept fine in her own room, 7 - 5, she was still in moses basket though, I am doing it in stages!!

Vbab you are sounding well, hope your feeling a little more upbeat and you and DH are having a nice weekend.

Sorry to everyone I forgot

Need to go smarten up as we are going out for sunday dinner, Yeehah no cooking or clearing up however it will probably add to my tummy!
(although DH 'nipped' to fire station 2 1/2 hours ago )

Hi all

daisy your bag sounds lovely. I want to make one but not sure when I'll get around to it. I'm usingone of my old tool satchels at the mo, it works quite well.

Imi slept all night last night- from 7:30pm until...drumroll please.....7:30am....grips wooden table vvery tightly...

Love to all. Merry I don't know how you are doing so well, I would be stir crazy by now. I agree with daisy I would just go for a walk out of the house on my own, for a few mins, when you get chance, even if it's just to buy chocolate.

Afternoon all I am at the shopping I can't manage more than 3 hrs out as there is no where to comfortably bf here in winter . So I tend to race to a shop and race back.We have one bf shop and the bars are either too small or too cold and no space for the pram . ceebee brave at putting lo in own room - no way I could do that just yet as this is the last one I want her as near as possible as the years will fly by !!
rutho keep going and loose afew for me . I was going to get the wii fit out of its box but minirosa has other ideas and does not look like she will sleep and when she will sleep then dd1 will be awake !!
obs hope you are having a positive weekend and whatever your decision about bf I hope its the right one for you .
We seem to be getting into some sort of a routine here then it all goes belly up ..like today oh well we can but persevere. Forecast rain for next 3 days hurrah house will look like a laundry !

well done furry and of course clever girl Imi

just a quick message, have been reading but as usual no time to post when i get to the end!

hugs to everyone in need at the moment
xx

Hello all I have been mia for a while.

Owen is now 7 weeks and weighs 11lb 6.5oz which apparentley is good for a bf baby.

he is feeding every 3.5 to 4 hours and tends to go down at around 9.30pm, wakes at about 2.30 for a feed and then is up at around 7am, i just hope we can drop the 2.30 feed soon.

i seem to be a bit sore when he feeds ob the right side and might have to speak to hv

Are men programmed to be noisy? I had just got P off to sleep - he hasn't slept much at all today - when DH came in from the garage, talking just about as loudly as it's possible to talk without actually shouting, and of course P woke yp straightaway as he was in a really light sleep. So now he is yelling his head off. Great. And DH has buggered back off to the garage leaving me to deal with him. Men eh?

hello tegan that sounds like a good overnight feeding routine

juanitad i think they are! my DH decides to shower in the en suite bathroom this morning 2mins after i had put E in his basket in our room for his nap!! leaving the door open and the electric razor on!! arghh, needless to say E awake after 2mins!!

I have been reading up and i think the problem i have feeding is down to owen having a tongue tie, will ring hv tomorrow

Hi tegan, good to see you again

I hope you get O's feeding probs sorted and that any tongue tie can be dealt with swiftly. It's pretty usual for babies to latch worse on one side than the other, and this usually resolves itself as they get older.

We had a pretty good night last night. We all went to bed at midnight (that's me, bumble AND DH!!) and bumble slept from then until 7.15am. The best night we have had so far, and he even managed to settle himself as he was awake when we went up.

I knew the 12 week mark was a bit of a milestone where being settled after colic is concerned and it looks like Bumble is conforming to that.....bring on next Saturday

Size 12's coolkat . Good news on B sleeping in her own room though.

7.30 until 7.30 pinky

lol I'm not saying anything about it, merely reporting that is what she did. I have learned not to tempt fate!

But that does sound very promising for bumble to sleep like that.

Poor you Rosa, with the rain- it sounds a lot like Manchester! We love rain here

Tegan hope you get the feeding probs sorted. Imi is the same as my other two- really dislikes my left for some reason- very 'off and on' with it, but at least she doesn't refuse it completely -yet- like DD1 did- I was very lopsided for at least a year.

I have an odd boob as well!!
with both dd the left caused problems at the start - cracks etc. It is still the one that when is empty gets really sore if minirosa hangs in there however she seems happier there than on the right. I find that she bobs on and off the right sometimes I tried changing position checking latch , winding , pooing etc but sometimes its funny until she settles down. We have gone to last feed 10.30 ish and the feed at 3 or 4 and then she feeds exactly 3 hrs after and then sleeps for another 2 hrs ...Like a clock . Total bummer when I have to get dd1 to nursery alone / breakfast , dressed etc.
Size 12 well done.. I dream of a size 12 so only about another 15-20 kg to loose and maybe I could join you ! I seem to have lost all will power this time . Before I could avoid all naughties easily ...not this time round I crave everything I shouldn't !!

Lacks when are you going to Centre Parks?

We are going to the Nottingham one in Feb.

pink - Congrats and . . Well done Imi.

TODAY - Had lovely day with DS. No incidents and he went to bed exhausted at 7pm. Dh took him swimming while I watched with A. A the greedy guts had a 6oz bottle an hour earlier than normal and was still crying for more but I had no more . She has now just had another 6oz before bed. Maybe time to step up her feeds but just at certain times because some times she might only have 3/4oz but then other times have the full 6oz ?