June 07 - Tinsel and baubles all over the floor.........mummy is seething; she can't take any more

[TheTwelveDAISYOfChristmas]

hello

not silly at all natty, probably quite understandable. Now please correct me if I'm wrong here as this is a pretty sweeping assumption, but maybe you'r a little bit like me and worry has become the thing that you function on? I mean, you were worrying about getting past 12 weeks, which happily you are, so now you need another worry to drive you on? I'm sorry if I am wrong, but that's my life in words! (yesterday when I took baggins fir a nap I was thinking we might go walking along a river path, and then this "vision" popped into my head of DS2 falling in - because they mess about so much - and getting swept away by the river. So now I wouldn't go... stupid isn't it. This is me all the time)

so, I have bollocked all of them, the friend is going home and mine are all going to bed.

lol ria thats exactly what im like atm, i never used to be but the last year i am worrying so much about things.
prob all the stress i been under.

dont blame u putting DC to bed, i did that yesterday and told them i wanted 2 hours peace and they had better not wake up

Natty I read that 90% of people who discover their fetus has downs still go for termination, although obviously this doesn't take account of the people who decided not to have tests in the first place. I really would try not to worry about it though as the risk is very low for someone your age.

I think it's really normal to worry about these things in pregnancy and you're probably right that you're just more worried this time round because of Tom's dx.

I also think you are right to consider all your options given your circumstances.

thanks sputnik xx

I had amnio with both my pgs btw, as it's standard here for over 35s. Thankfully all was fine but no idea what I'd have if it hadn't been.

no i know thats how i feel, i dont know if i could actually go through with a termination after all we have been thru to get this far, but then i have to think of others not just myself.
whilst it would prob kill me to have a termination after seeing my baby on the screen, im not sure my marrige would survive another SN child tom already puts a huge strain on us and his problems are minor in comparison.

Do you get a Nuchal automatically Natty?

Only you and DH can make those decisions...FWIW we needed to know and nuchal was very important to us.

Its very quiet on here recently...has everyone got a RL or is it cos I'm on mat leave?

no norty it really is DEAD on here, even for a sunday.
yeah we get nuchal automatically, one of the perks of going to such a good hospital.

hows u anyway?

fine thanks. 35 weeks today and feel like a beached whale.

I got Nuchal on the NHS as well.

At 23 you are very unlikely to be at high risk.

i know norty, like i said just the thought of another (this is gonna sound awful) thomas on a bad day, and then thomas on top... scares the sh*t out of me.
ive had a REALLY bad few weeks with thomas, so this is possibly part of it, coupled with feeling crap with this bug, stress of xmas and moving, i dont feel like im coping ever so well atm.
im sure i will feel fine next week, when all calms down

Its also pretty knackering being 12 weeks pg. What was your nuchal measurement?

scans not till next week
its the guy in the EPU thats worring me, he was all like "you ARE booked in for a nuchal arnt you" like he had seen something but didnt want to say.

Don't read anything into it....I'm sure everything will be fine.....as Ria said, its easy to lurch from one worry to the next...I'm exactly the same, even at 35 weeks

Right off to feed DD.....later x

the boys have tidied their rooms

baggins and I had a little snooze again.

I am but I will be glad to get back into the school routine, just for a bit anyway.

DH isn't home yet so that should be good sign of him having coped ok (either that or he has forgotten to tell me he's gone through to the hospital for another jab)

Hi all

Natty, when my Nuchal Scan came back at such a very, very high risk I decided that if LO had Downs Syndrome I would terminate. It was a knee jerk reaction made up of fear and ignorance on my part. How would I cope with the other 3? And DP being away so much?

In the cold light of day, having read up about it and read many threads on here, I wouldn't. I only know one child with DS, and she is the most lovely, adorable girl.

But I will have to look at you sternly and say "Why on earth are you worrying about this, lady?"

Hi all

Natty, when my Nuchal Scan came back at such a very, very high risk I decided that if LO had Downs Syndrome I would terminate. It was a knee jerk reaction made up of fear and ignorance on my part. How would I cope with the other 3? And DP being away so much?

In the cold light of day, having read up about it and read many threads on here, I wouldn't. I only know one child with DS, and she is the most lovely, adorable girl.

But I will have to look at you sternly and say "Why on earth are you worrying about this, lady?"

What risk was you Foxy out of interest?

Has everyone deserted us?

Fairy....hope move went well and all is good in the new house.

Daisy....any news from Tallulah?

sorry i got distracted on another thread.
i am really fed up of the atmosphere on MN atm, is it just me?
i posted a thread asking if u could get safety backs for kids earrings, and all i got was posts telling me she was too young and to take them out.
helpful... not!

i dunno why im worried. i think its cos tom is horrid atm, and i just think "omg what if i have another one like this?"
i love tom dont get me wrong, but i dont LIKE him very much at the moment, everything is a battle, and just getting thru the day is SO SO hard. i feel bad that i just look forward to bed time, and i cannot WAIT for him to click out of this awful stage/phase and go back to my normal thomas.

Do you think the move may have upset him Natty? I think many of us long for the DCs bedtime sometimes btw

yes i think moving twice so close together has severely affected him, he is very unsettled, though he does tell me that he loves his nice new house much more than the old "cold" house
it will improve im sure, he is also wound up at being indoors since new year because we have all been sick, and he has an awful cough and its SO cold.
so although i sympathise, and am much more patient than normal, its getting to me 4 days non stop AWFUL behaviour.
taking him out tomorrow (just me and him) to get him something he can do in the house, not sure what yet, colouring, cooking and playdough have been exhausted.
any ideas?
also thought it might be the baby, because he knows about it and im huge already. to much xmas goodies plus water retention.. not good

evening all

I was lurking last night.

Natty, try not to worry about the nuchal scan. easier said than done I know, as I also tend to be driven by the next worry rather than just relaxing and enjoying things. We chose not to have the nuchal scan or blood tests for downs, purely because we felt that having had two miscarriages we weren't prepared to consider a termination for any reason so saw no need to have the tests. It's such a personal thing though.

Nothing more from Tallulah. I'll send her a wee text tomorrow.

DH took the older two out this morning and I slept on the sofa for three and a half hours...it was bliss, but the house is still a tip.

Does anyone here co-sleep. I have a 4.5tog duvet on the bed and have it at mine and bumbles waist level. I'm worried about him slipping under it, so was going to put him in his sleeping bag on top of the duvet. How many layers would he need, considering he is snugged up next to me? with DD she was in vest, sleepsuit and sleeping bag through the winter, but I think that'll be too much for bumble.

Diet starts in earnest tomorrow. I have three stones to shake (if only it were that easy), and have given myself until our holiday in August to achieve it.

natty, MN has always been anti kids ear piercing.....I don't think it's to do with the atmosphere on the site at the minute. some subjects are best kept to yourself I'm afraid.

oh dear didnt know MNetters hate ears being peiced. its pretty much standard practice around here im afraid, all her female friends and several of the boys have had theirs done. ok lesson learnt.

re co sleeping. we co-slept with ellen till she was nearly a year, we put the duvet away in the end cos even if she would stay put in early days by the time she was 2 months she kept trying to get under it.
we got big cellular(sp?) blankets, M&S sell them i think, and thick throws to kept us warm, much like what you would put in a cot but much bigger iuswim.
i think with sleeping bags its done by the temp in room? iknow the grobag thermometer that came with it had how many layers to put on the baby.
its ever so cold this winter isnt it? i worry my two are cold as well

You could maybe put him in just a long sleeved vest + sleeping bag Daisy..

we co sleep with baggins He sleeps in a vest and PJs/sleepsuit, I might put a cardie or towelling/fleece sleepsuit over if it is really really cold as he has no covers at all (he just won't have them on) once DS2 improves though, we are going to not co-sleep as it buggers my back having to sleep diagonally across the bottom of the bed, half curled up with a pillow folded in half.

Hi daisy. was wondering where you were and if you were ok.

So, diets all round then?