Nov 2008 - sleepless nights and exploding poo, dear oh dear now what do we do??

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Sorry that is soooo crap but we needed a new thread!!!!!

am off to GP. Max is covered in rash. hope it is nothing serious.

oh, i hope he is OK Obs.

Chocorange agree a little with Daisy/Obs. I tried GF with DS1 from when he was 2 weeks old and used to get myself all tied up in knots because he wouldn't nap when he was 'supposed' to, would be asleep when due a feed and not wake up etc. I remember stressing to anyone who would listen that DS1 wouldn't do as he was meant to. I eventually gave up after a week and switched to the Baby Whisperer model of a 2-hourly schedule - it didn't take long for DS1 to fall into his own routine after that. Also agree that there is no harm in cuddling M to sleep if he needs it - we did that with DS1 and he has had no problems in learning to settle himself.

Yorky mention the breastbone to your HV maybe but when my HV examined Sam yesterday she mentioned that he had a 'pea' around the area that you are referring to - not sure what she meant but said some babies had them and some didn't. I assume it is a little lump??

Zonedout definitely try Calpol - if the behaviour is so out of character, it is probably going to be because of the injections.

Had a lovely relaxed day - managed a nap of an hour this morning once DS1 had gone to nursery and another short nap this afternoon!! DH trying to summon the energy to go and collect DS1 from nursery in a bit - this manflu has really taken it out of him (apparently )

Obs really hope Max is ok and it sounds like the last thing you need on a crap day. Big hugs to you and hope your day improves!

Sorry - that should be a 3-hour schedule

Obs, I hope Max is ok.

Can anyone tell me were I might be able to find a lactation consultant that would be willing to come and visit me at home (easier than dragging 3 kids out). I am still having issues with bad latching (I think) on my right boob, it constantly hurts, even when I'm not feeding .

Back.
Harmless rash. Apparently a type of milia. Looks like a really really bad shaving rash, hundreds of red bumps. But nothing say Gp.
Atleast thats something.

Heartmum
I found out that my birth pool lady is a lactation consultant and she does go out to set up pools so I think she would be able to come to visit you if you are in the Londonish/south east area.
I found the breast feeding without tears DVD really helpful, (you have to watch all of it though to get all the info you need) (I borrowed it from the library)
Good luck

Heart mum
Meant to add you should CAT me if you want the birth pool lady's number.

Thanks Tolly, but am in South Staffoordshire . I will have a look for the dvd though. Hard to believe I fed ds2 until he was 3, he's only 4.5 now, although his latch was always excellent.

heartmum, it isn't thrush is it? I've only ever had the pain in one boob.

DS has finally "got" it . We have had pain free feeds and a decent latch since last night. He seems to have cottoned on to the fact that he needs to open wide and tip his head back. It's only taken nearly five weeks! Now if we could just get the time between feeds better than 1.5 hours through the wee small hours.

yorky - Alyssa has a sticky out bone bit where her ribs meet in the middle. Been told all the doctors and so on nothing to worry bout just a "floating rib". No idea if it should go at some point or not or exactly what it is.

Forgot to say yesterday that had a bad scare with DS and Alyssa at tea time yesterday. Not told DH as he would probably kick off even though ages after the event. But me, DS and Alyssa had just got back in the house. Alyssa was in car seat next to sofa. DS playing on the sofa arm. I told him to be careful because if he falls he will fall on Alyssa and hurt her. I lifted Alyssa out of her seat and milliseconds later DS fell in hands and knees position from the sofa arm on Alyssa car seat . I dread to think that if hadnt of that instant lifted Alyssa out of the seat how bad she would have been hurt .

LAST NIGHT CONTINUED from last night post. Alyssa stopped in the moses basket upstairs from 7pm until her late night feed at 11ish. She then nearly followed a GF type routine on her own. Also after DS hassle at bedtime he stopped down until about 8am.

Me and DH went to bed at 9.15pm as both exhausted and (as mentioned previosly) DH had been ill the night before. Unfortunately though I woke up before Alyssa for her 2amish feed as i was have the same bloating , sick feeling and stomach pain DH had the night before. Still got all symptoms still except pain luckily.

Had a couple of DS "incidents" today but seem to have handled it but once had to pin him when putting him in the car . But at least he said "sorry" a few minutes later after being prompted .

DS stopping at my mum's tonight. So may try for another early one.

Evening all.

Daisy , Obs and Ceebee thanks for your responses. I am much more relaxed with M at the moment, not trying to force him into the routine exactly but I do try to get him to have a lunchtime nap and go down in the evenings - these are the things he "usually" does anyway but some days he doesn't. I really feel like I need him to have a couple of hours in the day where I can catch up on sleeping and eating as if he doesn't go down I don't get a chance to do that. Saying that I have become more relaxed with him and myself and when the routine works I claim those victories and when it doesn't my motto is "tomorrow is another day". This afternoon he hasn't followed it at all so I know he won't go down at 7 (slept from 12.30-5) but I am going to try and read what he wants/needs so hopefully he will go down at some time. I have realised that when he's tired he sleeps fine in his moses basket but sometimes I rush to get him to sleep and he's simply not tired - I think I need to learn about my baby a bit more!!

Anyhoo - sorry for the mammoth post, but just wanted to share that I am trying to relax more and enjoy my little darling.

Obs glad to hear M is ok - looking forward to seeing you tomorrow!

Good luck with your early night vbab - they are great!

Sorry if I missed anyone/anything else - I have to go and have a cuddle with my little man who is gurgling away in his baby rocker!!

Hi everyone.
vbabs sounds like you've had a nightmare couple of days. You really are a trooper handling all that on your own for most of last night. But your DH also sounds like he's mucking in when it matters. It must be so hard for all of you trying to appease your toddlers aswell as care for new baby. I can't even contemplate it!!
Loving the new xmas name 12Daisyofxmas!!!
Other xmas names:
For Ceebee - TistheCEEBEEtobeJolly !!!
Vbab - VbabMerrilyOnHigh

Soz - my imagination has run out!!

I like "tistheCeeBeetobejolly". ChocO already has a Christmas name.......being the ubiquitous stocking filler

glad you are feeling more relaxed ChocO .

I hope you get your early night vbab and that things are a bit easier than the last couple of days and that you feel better soon. I suppose the fact that christmas is around the corner will be adding to the hyper behaviour of some of the older siblings.

MM as you can see I took your suggestion - I love it Really wish I had some imagination....

Choc glad you are feeling a bit more relaxed about it all. M may surprise you and sleep well tonight aswell.

Not only have I got a poorly DH, I now have a poorly DS1!! He came home from nursery just in his vest and pants as his temperature had gone up - and then he just sat on the sofa all evening (he managed to eat a small packet of chocolate buttons though ) - and was in bed by 6.50 after a dose of Medised. Hope he is better tomorrow

Thanks everyone for the unanimous shout for calpol... i gave him a dose a couple of hours ago but still not a very happy camper He is just either sleeping or screaming a horrible pained scream

Anyone else ever experienced this sort of reaction straight after first jabs? Am sure ds1 never reacted like this (although he screamed non stop for a year so i wouldn't have noticed a difference!)

Twelvedaisy (loving your name , no i was told that he needed is immunisation at 8 weeks post birth as opposed to his adjusted age... actually spoke to a paed about this to confirm as was worried hv had got it wrong

Obs, glad all is well... my little man has hada very similar sounding rash recently.

Glad the Calpol has done the trick zonedout. Obs glad your LO's rash isn't anything serious.
Glad you like your new name tistheCeebee !
chocOrange - I concur with the wise ladies of this thread that you shouldn't put too much pressure on yourself for Mack to fit in with the GF routine. Even my most routine-queen friends with multiple children never even start a routine until 6 weeks.
Its funny, as pre-baby I'd imagined I would be avidly following a routine by now. But on the contrary, I'm now really enjoying taking each day as it comes and things do seem to be getting better on their own. I think I've had a personality transplant - I'm not even sure I could DO my job anymore .
Am feeling really happy this evening, had a lovely day just the 3 of us doing some xmas shopping, DH just cooked us chorizo and potata frittata which was absolutely delicious and is now cuddling Cecily whilst I MN. Only thing bothering me is I've purchased an electric breast pump but haven't actually put the thing together yet - it makes my brain ache just looking at all the component parts...
Also - the miracle weight loss has come to an abrupt end - must stop eating choc digestives.

My weight loss has stopped as well monkey .....probably the half pound of haribo and minstrels I get through on a daily basis!

Obs, glad the rash is nothing sinister.

I had bumba in the baby buddha sling at teatime so that I could eat my dinner in peace. I had to pace a bit beforehand to get him to sleep, but it was reasonably successful. Mind you, I tried him in the newborn position as I thought I could feed him at the same time, but he hated that and screamed the house down. Not sure full AP is for me!

Loving the xmas names!

monkey my weight loss has also come to an abrupt halt after losing 2 stone in 10 days after birth, now still holding onto an extra half stone but would like to lose 1. It doesn't help that I prioritise naps over lunch so I only had time to eat a packet of crisps and a chocolate bar today .

Because of M's excess sleep today I did the GF routine but very much led by him (letting him sit in huis bouncy chair as he was awake, waiting till he was hungry to feed and waiting till he was tired before I put him down) he's now been down for 20 mins so fingers crossed he stays there! I feel much happier using a combination of routine and what my little man seems to want/need.

I am really looking fwd to seeing dozy and obs tomorrow!! [Grin]

Good evenings and nights wished all round!

choc, I am not sure I can come.
I double booked myself for starters. But based on today, and my hysterical sobbing down the phone to dh, he has said that I am not up to going anywhere tomorrow morning. This sounds like he is laying down the law, ' you are forbidden', but to be fair, I think he's right. He said I could 'go visiting' once I was in a better state.
I do have haircut, and then ds1's christmas fete/bazaar tomororw, so I think that is enough. I may not be able to get dressed before 11am, if I have another bad night.

Monkey, would you come up with a name for me, please. I have never name changed since being oblomov. never had xmas name, before. hard, I know, but somethinglike 12 days ob christmas, or something ? Please.

Hey all,

Obs, glad rash is nothing too bad - why does my baby have zits? Is it so we know what he'll look like when he's 14?

Vbab, wow, what a crappy couple of days. Poor you and hope you don't get full scale poorly. How is DS? Is it getting easier?

Monkey, you queen of all that is urban cool, where is my Xmas nickname? I can't think of any either. Naming things makes the weight fall off, you know... me too, I must stop eating pies.

Dais, LOVE the new name and am v jealous. Nag nag nag.

Proud Maternal Boasting moment - my little Babysaurus has been playing with his toy lion! I line the lion (which has a jingle bell in his tummy and is called Darius after my cousin who gave it to him) up near his hand, he stares at Darius and bops it with his tiny fist, then does some celebratory huffing and grunting and waves his legs and arms around while I go "Yaaayyyy!!!!" and clap dementedly. Then we do it all over again, for AGES. It is the cutest thing I have ever seen and I am going to get DH to film it at the weekend.

I went to visit my mate who had her baby on Monday and they have already been out to the shops, despite her 3rd degree tear (ouch). Her baby looks TINY - I can't believe Fin was ever that ickle, he looks like a giant in comparison! But she is v cute and looks just like her daddy, which he is chuffed about but mum less so. My boy looked just like DH at first but now he is all me, poor ginger bugger.

Today I did ALL the laundry, ALL the nappies and visited my mate with babygros and an insulated mug. It is DH's work xmas do, so I washed his going out jeans. And then he has the temerity to ask for a lift into town so he can go out and get pissed. Explained that I'm a very nice lady, not a fricking idiot, and that I wasn't about to jam Fin back into 15 layers of clothing and blankets and drive across Sheffield in the dark just so his daddy can drink ropey mulled wine and fend off Big Alison from reception under the mistletoe. Go Alison, say I, and have one for me while you're there.

I have eaten tomorrow's advent calendar chocolate in retribution...

ChocOrange, the only one I can think of for you is LimitedEditionXmasChocOrange, which is crap, sorry...

apparently they all look their daddies initially to help with bonding issues since men don't have the same biological bond that we do.

lol rutho, you do make me larf . You should be on the telly!

DS2 looks so much like DS1 did that it's scary. We were playing spot the difference with photos the other day and everyone we asked thought the photo of DS1 was Finlay!! I call him DS1's mini-me

Once I get my old laptop fixed, I'll upload a photo of DS1 and you can see what you think.

DS2 has been making some interesting communicative noises today; cooing and chuckling rather than grunting and screaming all the time...which makes a change.

I really didn't know that new babies grunted - it's so weird. I was expecting gurgling and cooing, not snorting and snuffling. Fin does make me laugh so much, though. It is hard to take his tiny baby rage seriously, especially as when he gets really cross he sounds like a sheep. And because he has been known to fall asleep mid-strop. Right now he is sleeping in his gym, arms flung up in the "I surrender" position. [gooey melty "awwwwwwww" emoticon].

He was a little shit last night and didn't go to sleep til 3 but this makes it all worthwhile.

ruth - I know exactly what you mean about the baby noises and being so proud. It's amazing how after lots of baby screaming one cute look or noise makes it all better.

My dad made me smile today ... he was talking to Alyssa before going to work and she gave him a massive ear to ear smile that lasted a while. He made girly type noises and was so touched. When he made the girly noises though it scared her and stopped her smiling. AWW. It may have been wind on her part but she did the same to me earlier today and family/friends have been saying she keeps smiling. Can she smile at 3 weeks old?

Also good on you for telling DH to get stuffed after asking for a lift!