Nov 2008 - sleepless nights and exploding poo, dear oh dear now what do we do??

[Dozymare]

Sorry that is soooo crap but we needed a new thread!!!!!

Thanks Daisy!

OMG! I was only thinking today that I am obviously a bad mummy as Z has never fallen asleep on his own. So, I changed his nappy right before sitting down to my dinner in the hopes of getting to eat it in peace. All was quiet and when i had finished and got up, I found that he had fallen asleep on his changing mat....all on his own. Woohoo! Now if only I could get him to do it in his moses basket.

I had my first tea in peace tonight. I got to eat it all slowly and sedately; no rushing it so fast I burn my mouth or give myself horrible heartburn.

So progress made here too

He seems to be slipping into a four hourly feeding pattern over the last couple of days.

So, I see your "Woohoo" heartmum and raise you a Yipee

choc I have also posted on your cot thread......

leaky how have you got on doing gina lite today?! Well by the sound of it!!!!!

I am sitting here all on my lonesome - DH out on a work jolly (tis silly season in meeejja don't you know ) and dare I say it, am bored am watching ANTM, but think may go for a bath and early night......

choc pinkglow obs and anyone else my way, open house at mine friday morning - I know choc is deffo coming but whoever wants to can rock up!!!

HANA Just read your birth story - well done you!!!

Evening all - thanks for the new thread Dozy and love the title

Monkey glad things have settled down a little in the Monkey household - each day gets just that little bit easier until, before you know it, you are all in a routine! Someone once told me that having a new baby is the same as having someone new living in your house (which is exactly what it is really!) - you all have to adjust to each other and each other's habits/routines. Bet your loyalties were divided last night with the football??

HV came today for her visit and stopped for an hour is this normal?? Not really sure what we found to talk about tbh - she gave a lot of advice about DS1 re potty training etc when I had already told her we weren't planning on starting it until next year!! But refreshingly, she was talking about weaning and was quite clear that it should be done at 6 months

Went into town today for a mooch around the shops - I only managed about an hour before I was exhausted - I guess the cs recovery is taking longer than it appears.....

Will post some more once I have had my tea

Tea not quite ready yet!

Pinky meant to post yesterday about meeting up - I am sure we can find somewhere in between Manchester and Blackburn to meet - what side of Manchester are you on??

Dozy would love to come, fri. but, not sure. have hair appointment at 12.30.
maybe i could come for 9.30-11.30. does that fit with the times that you had in mind / the other ladies want to come ?

Dozy, I'd love to come but alas too far

ceebee, my HV was here for over an hour on both visits as well. she also covered some stuff about DD and even DS1, who is out of her remit now he is at school. She was really helpful as well . Much better than my last HV (for some reason DS2 has a different registered HV than DD)

Dozy, GF lite has gone OK, although he has pretty much pout himself into the routine (give or take an hour here or there). I'm not sure he has had enough milk though.

He has also latched on well, stayed on and the pain is easing

LAST NIGHT TUES - I was beyond exhausted and planned on going to bed at 7.30pm after DS goes and leaving DH to do Alyssa's 10/11pm feed (like normal). BUT ... DH came home looking like death and not man flu but really ill. It (sounds nasty) was the last thing I needed as I SO needed to go to bed early as it has all caught up with me and Alyssa was bad from 2-4am on the Mon night then up at 6am and I stopped up after.

I marched DH to bed and said I would sort it all. Didn't know how. Was left with DS to sort and Alyssa and I just couldnt stop crying. Which I definitely dont like doing in front of DS. Got DS to bed on time at 7.30pm no probs. FANTASTIC . BUT ... Alyssa then cried hysterically from 7.30pm until 12.20 with very occasional minute breaks when I would try and put her down. At 12.20 I had to and did wake up DH and apologised for bothering him as he was ill but I dont know what to do and need his help. I had tried EVERYTHING. He got up no probs and then Alyssa fell asleep in my arms like 2 mins later and stopped asleep! Little madam!

DH ed me when he saw what a wreck I was and said he'd had 5+ good hours sleep so he will do the early morn (2/3am) feed so I can get 7ish hours of good sleep. YIPPEE! He did and I felt better but so still didnt want to get up this morning.

All i can think was up with her was maybe colic as checked everything and she hasnt done it before? I've bought some infacol today but not used it so far.

TONIGHT SO FAR - Alyssa had a bottle just after 6pm after I got her ready for bed. She fell asleep at 7 so I swaddled her (1st time but did it with DS) and put her in her moses basket in our bedroom with the monitor on. She has been there since and this has never happened before .

Unfortunately though took DS to bed just after 7.30 seemingly with no probs. A minute later he was out of his room screaming and wanting to come downstairs, even went into ours where Alyssa is. Me and DH took it in shifts trying everything. In the end I had get in bed with him. It took 5 mins if that before DS was asleep. Lets see if it continues and just expecting a bad night from him now as really out of character. The last time this sort of thing happened was just after Alyssa was born 3 weeks ago. Maybe teeth? Who knows but just when I thought I could chill BAM! Isnt it always the way ladies.

Hopefully going to bed 9.30 latest.

Vbab look at my post from yesterday - DS1 also, completely out of character and for the first time ever, refused to go to bed last night - although he was just messing around in his room/landing rather than screaming. He eventually went 3/4 hour later than his usual 7.30 time (After DH had shouted at him ) and slept through fine and I had to wake him up for nursery this morning. He has gone to bed with no problems tonight! I think what the others (Dozy/Leaky) said is that they are just trying it on because they are at that age etc.

One bit of advice the HV gave me today was that it was important to be firm and consistent with boundaries with toddlers - so, however hard it is, stick to your guns about bedtime etc.

Leaky this was a different HV aswell then the one I had with DS1 because all the teams have changed and the HV have all got switched around etc. Quite glad as the last one was a bit of a 'know-it-all' whereas this one seemed lovely and sensible!!

vbab, I found that although mine were starting to accept the new baby and things were getting better; there was a further few days of stroppiness at about three weeks, almost as if they realised that the new baby was here to stay.

hopefully he'll settle down again soon for you.

Sorry to hear about the lurgy and hope it passes quickly. sounds like you and DH are managing it all between you though.

I'm in fear of getting ill at the minute.

DS has had a good feed and gone back to sleep again. It seems too good to be true!!

Leaky me too re getting ill. I am just managing with the tiredness atm but the thought of a cold etc on top....aaah!!

Right now for part 2 of my catch-up...

Saurus my DH was exactly the same (and still is tbh) in that when stuff needed doing with the children - such as a nappy change, feeding etc - it is always in his time rather than seeing that DS1/2 need it doing now. After 2.5 years, and me constantly nagging about it, nothing has changed...sorry! Also re baths - DS1 had a top and tail every day without fail and a bath most nights...poor Sam has had 4 baths in the 2 weeks since he was born and I haven't exactly been consistent with the topping and tailing on the other days.....Sam is definitely a 'subsequent neglected child'

HM2J lol about Zack falling asleep on the changing mat Did you not get a camera and take a photo???

Am shattered (for a change) so going to go to bed now - positive thoughts for good nights all round

Hi everyone. I have realised that James has wind / colic. Have got Infacol & gripe water. Have been using Infacol religiously and there's a huge improvement. Tonight though, as usual, he was grizzly after being put to bed at 7pm so, after trying to wind him and only getting a small burp, I used the gripe water, took another half hour but, for the first time, he's in bed!!!

Will be waking him at 1030pm for a split feed as per GF - I hope it works and he takes it and sleeps for 4 hrs. DH has gone out and I should have gone to bed - could kick myself for staying up!!

Hi everyone, sorry not posted for a while, have been trying to keep up with the thread!!

DS has been discharged from the MW and the HV after only seeing her once!, he was weighed at 10 days and weighed 9lb 14oz (was 9lb 6.5oz at birth) so is on 91st centile, his head circumference is on 98th centile (no wonder I couldnt get him out ) so HV says he is going to be a big lad!!!!!

Is anyone else finding the change from 1 DC to 2 difficult?? I am doing fine with DS (not had the same overwhelmed what do I do now feeling that I had with DD) although he does feed a lot and however much I try I cannot get into a routine with feeding, but since DH went back to work I am finding it really hard dealing with DD at the same time. She has been really good so far about DS but has become a lot more demanding of my time and wants my attention all the time and I feel really bad as because DS is feeding so much I cant always do this

Sorry not replied to everyones posts, I will try to keep up more, but sleepless nights dont help with my memory so I soon forget what I have read Off to bed soon, hope everyone has a good night with lots of sleep

Happy belated birthday Pinkali and hope you had a good day Agree with the others that your 30s are much better than your 20s!
Leaky That link was great! Made me chuckle.
Glad some of the babies are settling and getting into some sort of routine. Sorry for those having to cope with toddlers on top of new babies - I just don't know how you do it! Plus illness on top of all that - sympathies vbab Dozy I also wished I lived a bit closer and could come round for coffee. London ladies - we'll have to arrange another meet-up in the new year!
Thanks for your comments Obs about slings/co-sleeping. Have decided to go with whatever works. Elise has been in the sling twice today and she is quite happy to fall asleep in it. She was in it for 3 hours this afternoon and I actually had to wake her to change her. I'm surprised she finds it more comfortable than her bed given that I'm moving around and she's being jolted but if it works I'm not complaining! Also she feeds when she wants in the sling which is handy too. She does settle herself to sleep - I took her out for a walk in the pram this afternoon and she was asleep within minutes. However she soon started screaming once we got back! Now she just needs to get used to her own bed. She was OK a couple of weeks ago, it's almost as though she's regressed. Oh well, we'll see what the night brings... Let's hope we all have a quiet night

oh found new thread. dont have much time atm as off to bed shortly. but today did a session on babie resusictation and choking. was v good. i did one 6years ago, and never had to use the techniques shown, so thought i should do a refresher now i have another baby, and since the last course i have done adult ones, so things were a bit muddled in my mind.

Actually Ceebee, I did..... rofl!!! Am I that obvious???

Z is most definately the neglected child, he's luck if he gets a bath more than once a week, however when ds2 was under a dermatologist for his eczema, it was actually recomended to have no more than 1 bath a week.

Lacks, sound like you are having a great night so far!

Do you think it is ok for your baby to sleep in a swing (fisherprice). Oscar just won't settle in moses basket tonight, in fact we have a battle most nights, and in desperation i'v put him in his swing and he has finally gone off but now i'm worried that he is not flat on his back and its not good for his spine. Does anybody know/have any advice on this?

The little monkey fed for two hours this evening and then brought the entire contents back up and then immediately wanted feeding again. My poor (.)(.) are like pancakes now

Right off to try and get some sleep while Oscar is being swung to sleep

lolabella not sure about the swing - am sure Daisy will be along shortly and know more about it. I suppose it is similar to a car seat which is only recommended for 2 hours maximum at a time?

Had a sh*t night last night and it wasn't even Sam's fault as he woke his usual 2 times for a short feed and went straight back to bed again DH has man-flu so spent all night coughing and making continuous grunting noises, DS1 was in and out of bed like a jack-in-the-box all night - he hovers on the landing outside our room until one of us tells him to go back to bed . We finally caved into DS1 at 6.30 this morning and let him in our room.

Now I just have to put up with DH moping round all day, sighing loudly every time he comes into a room - just to remind me that he is ill

morning everyone
hope you get some rest today ceebee
happy belated birthday to pinkali

away to read hanas birth story.

question my little man is constipated, no poo since tuesday morning.
HV says not to worry too much, ive tried lying him on his back and bending knees up, any other ideas???
poor wee thing

Morning all!

It was a tale of two halves in the ChocO household last night with the little man not settling until 9pm when he was down for bed at 6!! He did go down at 11 though after his 10pm feed and didn't wake until 3.30 for another. I actually gave him some EBM out of a bottle instead of breast and it only took 20 mins to feed him (as opposed to 1hr on the breast) although after winding/settling he went down at about 4.30. So that was the good half.

But OH NO - I have turned into a dummy-mummy. I hate the things as I always thought they were used to shut babies up - and I have realised that is exactly what I am doing. M seems like a very sucky baby and so we have started using the dummy at nap times/night time to settle him but what have I started????

He is currently crying in his room as I just took the dummy away. I'd better go....

Sorry for me post - good days all!

Hi Chocgal, Rebecca has been constipated since monday but cleared it this morning, someone sugggested almond oil around bum but I never got round to doing that. If she did not poo today I was going to call HV but boy did she let me have it, We are on outfit three already!!

Hope you had a good night, I feel quite refreshed as she has gone back to just one feed so fed at 9.15, settled by 9.45, woke at 3.30 and back in bed settled by 4.15. And to top it all I think she has been reading the GF book I got free with magazine as she woke at 7!! well I think my alarm woke her

X posts ChocOrange, I know what you mean about the dummy, I had to get up a few times to put her dummy back in after her 3.30 feed as she had lost it, she gets so cross though and really grunts and growls when she loses it!

Hope you have a good day. X