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Nov 2008 - sleepless nights and exploding poo, dear oh dear now what do we do??

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Dozymare · 03/12/2008 11:30

Sorry that is soooo crap but we needed a new thread!!!!!

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vbab78 · 01/01/2009 08:59

Sorry ladies not been on for a couple of days. Will try to catch up later and put own post on.
I'm made up with a slight cough but accompanied by a very nasty cough.
Had a couple of good days with DS and DH. Odd cross word with DH but nothing I would be bothered about. Felt quite bad for DH last night as after my family had left ours I think he was wanting a nice and cuddly/kissing happy new year but I was a wreck and coughing but also slightly still not wanting to kiss him as still got emotional scars from all the recent s**t. DS been good but noticing more and more behaviour change when attention goes from him to A. Feel quite sad for him. After one such change yesterday with daddy after DH stopped playing scaletrix to see to crying A. DS actually got hold of DH leg and asked/demanded he keep playing. Ended up escalating and me not saying a word and pulling DS along to the car, as we were going out, while he was crying and wanting his dad but dad was sorting A. Bet neighbours thought I was evil and phoned social services. But even though was a tense situtation I think it handled so much better than me and DS getting upset then him kicking or hitting.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO A BUNCH OF VERY SPECIAL LADIES AND THEIR FAMILIES.

vbab78 · 01/01/2009 09:52

just read my post?! cold with cough. duh!

AMerryMariAndHerHappyNewTwins · 01/01/2009 10:47

Happy New Year to everyone. So, will anyone be having another baby in 2009. I'm sure there will be one! (Who? who? not me for sure!).

mummynic, it is a small medicine cup like you take cough mixture in. She seems to be getting good at it and now it's bank holiday!

MerryMarigold · 01/01/2009 10:56

vbab, glad things were a bit better past few days. ds1 also gets quite jealous and as soon as i start feeding a baby comes and says, "i'm hungry" and then when dh offers to get him something he says, "no mummy get it"!!! there's not much you can do except be very over the top with affection and (in my opinion) not quite so tough on discipline.

got to pack up and leave mum and dad's today...boo hoo hoo

i'm celebrating new year with my old name!

ds1 did his first wee on the toilet to celebrate 2009. most of it went on the toilet seat as dh didn't tell him tuck his willy in, but we didn't mention that! hip hip hooray and for he's a jolly good fellow.

any plans for the new year? i have one big one already. friend getting married in melbourne and WE ARE ALL GOING! hooray. not sure of the date, she just got engaged yesterday. and my sister's first and long awaited baby in august. so far so good.

barbareebaa · 01/01/2009 13:58

happy new Year y'all!
Did anyone get pissed off with the fireworks last night? Me, I did!! Everytime I got wilber down some bleep let a noisy one off Didn't get him to sleep til 3 then up at 6 and would appear to be growth spurt time - he's 6 weeks on Monday.
Hi Merry! Don't plan to have a baby in 2009 but might try to get preggers towards end. Am gonna go for a summer baby if poss next time (not so cold on the old nips!)Congrats on ds1's wee in toilet Would you like to meet up sometime? Don't worry if not/ not yet - could do it when weather improves/ springish - picnic/ drinks in park perhaps?? What say you?

Hope everyones having a loverly day. Me dh and Willo camped on sofa wi pringles and choc and bisc. House a tip. Don't care!! x

TheTwelveDAISYofChristmas · 01/01/2009 14:00

Happy New Year Everyone

only popping on to do a birth announcement for one of my June buddies who had twins yesterday morning.

Hope you all had a good night and are enjoying a nice relaxing start to the year.

We have decided it's no mercy where getting bumble into a routine is concerned, so we are trying to follow the GF sleeping routines. Despite the fact he didn't get up until 9.30 (after going down at 3.30am so progress of sorts ) he was back in bed on GF schedule and I'm just about to get him up now!

I have promised the boys no MNing today though so....I'm not really here

juanitad · 01/01/2009 16:59

Hi all,

It is ages and ages since I posted on this thread - I used to post on the ante-natal one but found I couldn't keep up with all the posts before I went on mat leave, so I kind of abandoned it! I had my baby - a boy, Patrick James on 25th Nov, he was 7lb 2oz. He is asleep at the moment, and I thought I would take the opportunity to have a look at this thread and see what I have been missing.....by the looks of it there is some great chat on this thread so I wondered if I might join again..... I am breastfeeding, had a nightmare at the beginning, he found it really hard to latch on but with the help of some fantastic midwives and health visitors I got there in the end and now he can't stop guzzling!! I was really interested in all the comments people were making about night feeds - I thought I had cracked it the other night when he only woke once for about 30 mins, fed then straight back to sleep, but last night was the usual two feeds with far too much awake time for my liking! And the fireworks did my head in too! I was convinced Patrick would wake up as they were so loud. He didn't, but I lay there fretting, and so not sleeping, which as we all know is a precious commodity these days!!

Looking forward to chatting with you all again

xx

coolkat · 01/01/2009 18:20

Hapy new year !!

Welcome back Juanitad. Congrats on Patrick, I am glad you got good help and advice on feeding from your HV and midwife, I have not found mine to be of any use!

Well new year came and went, Becca decided she wanted to be a party animal last night and today she has not had a proper sleep and is right hard work! Feed, feed, feed, and if not feeding Mwah Mwah Mwah!! I need to sort out a slee routie for her in the day as she is so over tired she won't sleep - I think! DH been at work and I am tired to! We would have gone for a walk but DD1 playing and it was just to cold!

I am contemplating giving her a bottle later, I may sterilise one just incase

Well regarding new years resolutions, ate healthy dinner, roast with loads of veggies (cooked by step mum )then failed by eating 2 choc digestives, drumstick lolly and mimi marsbar I really do not have any will power anymore!

Merry, sorry to hear about your argument with DH, good to hear you going down under you brave lady!

Buzz hope chicken pox not giving you to much agro!

Hi Rutho if your watching

Daisy, we did not see you on MN today at all honest

Sorry to those I missed but guess what - Yep she is crying againnnnnnn . . . .

MerryMarigold · 01/01/2009 18:24

Hi again juanitad, sounds like it's going well for you. Is Patrick your first?

barbs, would love to meet up one day. just going back to london today. we'll keep in touch and see when we both feel up for it!! did you see a bf counsellor? i was going to mention to you and forgot that there is (or was when I had ds1) a postnatal course in Wanstead. If you look on the NCT it may be on there...the lady is called Karon Watkin.

Well, back to the old grindstone, so I will be mning less.

daisy, who is the twins mummy? is it phoenix or mel? has she been on twins thread? we are waiting for news from a couple of people...

MerryMarigold · 01/01/2009 18:26

also, could someone post me the GF sleep routines for babies our age? i would like to try...arghhhh...i am caving in. we are starting a bedtime routine as of tomorrow when we are back at home.

barbareebaa · 01/01/2009 19:20

Merry I emailed a BF counsellor - a lady who is also a teacher at Wanstead High, just waiting for her to get back to me. My HV did tell me about the post natal course in Wanstead, I just need a bit of oomph to get going, just finding it a bit difficult to sort myself out!!
Hope you feel settled back at home soon!
juanitad Congrats on the birth of Patrick.
coolkat - sounds like we have the same baby today - how many weeks is she? I think Will is hitting his 6 week growth spurt...

ChocOrange05 · 01/01/2009 19:29

Just a quickie for Merry (and anyone else who is interested) before dinner.....

GF routine for babies 6-8 weeks are:

7am - get up and feeding
9am - nap of no longer than 45 mins
10.30am - feed
11.30 - 2.30 - nap of no longer than 2.5 hours (so if they went down at 11.20 wake them at 2)
2.30pm - feed
4.15pm - nap of no longer than 30 mins
5pm - feed
6pm - bath
6.15pm - feed
7pm - bed
10/10.30pm - wake to feed

GF reckons babies after 6 weeks can stay awake for up to 2 hours at a time but M only seems to manage 1.5 so our day always seems to be 15-30 mins ahead of the GF routine, but he's usually in bed by 6.30-7.

Good luck with the twins!

tistheCEEBEEtobejolly · 01/01/2009 19:59

Evening - hope everyone's first day of 2009 was good

Barbs I definitely found it much easier with DS1 being a summer baby - it just seems to take forever to get Sam out of the house as I have to wrap him up etc etc whereas we could just fling DS1 in the pram/car as he was.

Merry I definitely won't be having another baby in 2009 (or ever in fact )

I too was rally peed off with the fireworks last night - Sam slept through them but DS1 woke up at midnight and got really hysterical about them (he doesn't like fireworks) to the point that he threw up - so me and DH celebrated the arrival of 2009 by mopping up puke and changing bedding . Some of our neighbours had them and they were really close and loud - plus, just as we thought they had stopped and calmed DS1 down, off another one would go and we had to start all over again.....call me bah humbug but grrrrrr!

Juanitad welcome back to this thread - lovely to see you here

Vbab glad things seem to be improving. DS1's behaviour is also improving but I read a chapter in the Baby Whisperer last night about 'Taming Toddlers' and it would appear that me and DH are partly to blame for DS1's behaviour as we are 'subjective' parents It does actually make sense tbh so basically we need to be firm, consistent and have set boundaries (no double standards etc).

Also, whilst I was reading the Baby Whisperer, she gives 6 reasons why babies wake in the night - looking at all the signs she gives, Sam is definitely waking cos he is hungry so there is not much I can do about it other than feed him and try and get more into him during the day (easier said than done!)

Anyway, had a lovely day today. Was just the 4 of us so had a chilled out morning, I cooked a roast dinner and then we went out for a long walk this afternoon - I was carrying Sam in the sling and am now aching!!

Tomorrow, the Christmas decorations are coming down as I am fed up of the amount of space the Christmas tree takes up!!

coolkat · 01/01/2009 20:12

Quick question:

Is everyone's babies still in your bedrooms at night? And are they still in their moses baskets?

Becca is 9 weeks and DH wonders about putting her in her own room now .

What do you think?

tistheCEEBEEtobejolly · 01/01/2009 20:16

Coolkat The FSID guidelines recommend that babies are in the same room with their parents for 6 months - I stuck to that with DS1 (I know it sounds anal but I actually moved him into his own room the night after he turned 6 months ) and will be doing the same with Sam (even though it sounds like we have a very noisy piglet in our room at night fgs ).

I know it is 'each to their own' but I think the guidelines are there for a reason.

Sam is in a crib, rather than his moses basket, as DS1 outgrew his basket after about 3 months so we bought the crib then - we have used it from the start for Sam.

Heartmum2Jamie · 01/01/2009 20:24

Hello everyone!! I'm sorry I haven't been about much over the holidays, I have been reading as much as I can while NAK but rarely have time to post as dh is home as well. I thought it would be rude to not pop on and wish you all a very happy new year, I hope that 2009 is good to you all!

Hopefully next week I can be back to posting normally, but dh is away at a conference in Liverpool and has to stay overnight, so will be on my own for 2 full days. I am pretty sure I will manage, but obviously imagining the worst case senario. It is already bad enough that ds2 has a paed appt on tuesday at 9.45am and the in-laws are having to take us. I am actually going to spend some time next week sorting through Zack's clothes as believe it or not, at 8 weeks (tomorrow) he is rapidly growing out of his 0-3 months clothes. The HV is coming to see us tomorrow to weigh him. According to the Wii Fit, he weighs a stone, so I am guessing about 13lb 12oz, my little piglet!

Right, best go as he's just had a blow out, so guess it's PJ time!

Heartmum2Jamie · 01/01/2009 20:26

Zack still in our room and still in his moses basket. He will be in our room for a very long time as the eldest doesn't want to share his room and ds2's room isn't big enough to share. How long he will remain in his moses basket is another matter, he is so big already, about 14 lb and nearly in 3-6 month clothes.

TheTwelveDAISYofChristmas · 01/01/2009 20:44

merry, it's tallulahbelle who had her twins. She was 38 weeks iirc. I was looking at your photos on fb; your family ones are lovely and the twins look gorgeous

gina bleeding ford . We have been trying with F today re the sleep routines and so far he has ignored most of it. Fed him at six and put him down at seven....he lasted five minutes before screaming, then lay on his mat kicking his heels for an hour and has just gone to sleep now....in his chair in front of the TV. But, hey, at least he is asleep . One thing I read in GF horrified me though......in the routine for an 8-12 week old baby she advocates giving them either cooled boiled water or well diluted juice. I was at that.

coolkat, we would be happy if bumble was asleep, never mind in his own room!!!!! I know the guidleines are 6 months, but DD was in her own room by 4 months as we were keeping each other awake. I think it's too early now, but lots of people do it from the start as they don't have room for a cot in their bedroom. My friend's baby was in his own room from Day 1 for that reason.

Hi jaunitaD; good to have you back with us and glad all is going well.

heartmum, good luck for your solo mission; you seem like such a level headed and coping person, I'm sure you'll be fine. Mind you the logistics of things like shopping with three children in tow is a blooming nightmare.

DH has just been reading to me that apparently UK housewives spend more time on the internet than any other social group, spending 47% of their free time online, compared to 39% for students .

TheTwelveDAISYofChristmas · 01/01/2009 20:44

barbs...good luck with the BFC

OblomovOYeFaithful · 01/01/2009 21:03

Daisy, please help.
picked up ds2 from sil. He was a dream for her. My mil was staying too. They both thionk that seeing as he was fine for them, as he was on 'aptimil', it must be my brest milk that is "not satisfying him". I pointed out that he had gone up a centile, from 50th to 75th, in the last month, on my breast milk, but las. I could have fucking knocked them out.
Since been home, ds very unsettled and inconsolable. So dh just suggested that mil and sil were right and maybe we should try him on formula.

Please hellp me with factual info, to put them in their places, before I physically knock all their blocks off

twinkle183 · 01/01/2009 21:17

Hi girlies...

Sorry haven't been on but been spending some quality time with dh as he goes on a 8 month deployment to europe or somewhere!!!!! Am so not looking forward to it

On a good note J had his first 8 hour sleep last night but am just hoping that its not a fluke!!!!! He is bf great - guzzling down as much of it as he can except he is sicks up a lot of it, is anyone else having this problem??? He is bringing up his wind quite easy but has the odd time when he struggles but thats not when he is being sick!! Have started putting him up to bed at night aswell rather than having him down in the lounge just to make it easier for me when dh goes away....

It sounds like everyone is doing really well - hope everyone had a good christmas also!!!

take care twinkle183 xxx

TheTwelveDAISYofChristmas · 01/01/2009 21:18

Obs, stay strong lovely

He has been having the odd night where he has been good, yes? Probably just one of those nights. Couple that with the fact that formula is harder to digest leaving him fuller for longer and he appears to be a dream baby. It's got nothing to do with your milk "not being enough" as you know deep down that your milk is all he needs

If you want to keep on as you are, with mainly BM and the odd bottle of formula, then stick to your guns. DH is one thing and I'm sure he knows and respects your views on it and the two of you can have a good discussion about it, but your in-laws....tell em to mind their own!!

hope that helps

TheTwelveDAISYofChristmas · 01/01/2009 21:21

hi twinkle

for your DH's imminent departure; we'll keep you sane while he is away, don't worry.

My DS1 was an incredibly sicky baby.....no obvious pain or discomfort with it, he just possetted a lot. It didn't affect his growing and he grew out of it by the time he was about 9mo old. As long as J is gaining weight and seems well, it's probably just one of those things. Have a chat with your HV next time you are at clinic though. Yay for your eight hour sleep though

twinkle183 · 01/01/2009 21:24

Thanks Daisy for the support!!!! I will enjoy spending my evenings on here with you girlies keeping me sane.... This sounds terrible but I don't even know when my clinics are... must give the drs a ring tomorrow to get him weighed although have been doing that thing where you weigh yourself and then add your baby... lol

OblomovOYeFaithful · 01/01/2009 21:26

sorry to hear of mummynic hosital scare.
merrym, i have just had a HUGE argument with dh.
will respond to all the other posts tomorrow. sat here with a SCREAMING ds2

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