Feb 08 - Lessons in Dressing An Octopus (Or Cooo-eeeee, We're Overe Here!)

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New thread guys

More fun eh Princess? Is that what's known as an abnormal 1 or abnormal 2 result? I had one of those years ago and cleared up fine. Fingers crossed all is well with you (and Ferdie!)

Egg your night nanny's routine sounds fairly similar to what I'm trying to do. Although I doubt she shouted "FKKKK" or punched the wall like a mad woman I think the fact he can stand up makes it hard.

DP was on duty last night. I was so tired at bedtime I felt slightly sick and then couldn't get to sleep until 12.30!!! SO annoyed. Malc was up between 4 and 5 which is better and I went to sleep in another room but then couldn't get to sleep AGAIN. So only had five hours again. Do feel happier today though. Think the time of the month may have been contributing to me feeling so awful.

Just been out to the swings with another mum and baby and unfortunately Malc fallen asleep on way back as he's not supposed to sleep in the morning. So at least I have a spare fifteen minutes to come on here. He was very funny at the swings. I was looking after him and my friend's DS while she got the coffees. The other baby started to cry and so I picked him up. Malc carefully lowered himself to the ground and then pretended that he'd fallen over, lying with his face on the ground and screaming. Made my day.

Happy Birthday Sarah. Sorry had not picked up it was your birthday like everyone else I was distracted by the "25". You're younger than my little brother which is absolutely crazy as he really is a little brother who needs looking after.

Another happy birthday to sarah - did you have a nice day?

Princess, I had to go back to the docs with DS yesterday. Seems his chest infection hasn't cleared up from a month ago so he's back on antibiotics. He's also got gunky eyes, and a high temp again poor little thing. It seems the babies who have been ill are still catching everything .

You are very brave gill, having a party with that many people. I have said that family can come over on his birthday but its not a party so no cooking needed then on the sunday he's having 6 other babies over to play.

Same here with DS and his walking egg, he's fine until he realises he's doing it on his own then he sticks his bum out and falls over!

Better go DS is attacking stroking the cat

Gill does your ds sleep in a sleeping bag? Might make it harder for him to stand up?

Hello, still lurking!

Happy birthday to all the 1 year old babies (blimey that sounds really strange) and hope all poorly babies are better soon, including my ds who is on antibiotics for this chesty cough.

Gill I have simular sleeping problems, some nights are great but last night he woke every 2 hours and I gave in at 3am and put him in with me just to get a bit of sleep but I really don't like co-sleeping. How does your ds nap? Mine was okay last week and I was finally starting to feel human again but this week he just will not sleep during the day and its so draining, lots of tears all round. But hey it has to get better soon surely.

Mine sleep in grobags but still stand up ok. DS2 can cruise in his (DS1 could always walk round in his...).

Fingers crossed for better nights tonight Gill and looby, and get well soon to the poorly babies.

We went to our local twins club this morning. It was fab . Wish I had gone sooner now. Was nervous of taking all three but DS1 had a great time and DTs actually behaved v well.

Then had Homestart lady here from 2-4 this pm. It was lovely as meant we could all go in garden (normally cant go out on my own as cant carry both babies and it is too muddy/wet/cold/unsafe for them to be crawling round). She stayed a bit longer so I could get supper ready for me and DCs too (roast chicken, pots, parsnips, carrots and gravy (no gravy for babies tho!)). Mmmmmmmmm.

So all in all a nice day.

DS1 has fallen asleep on sofa. Better get him up I guess.

We got the twins weighed today,havent had them weighed for ages so took a trip down to the clinic,jack now weighs 22lb 12oz and Abby 19lb 15oz !! She has put on a good bit since last weigh in and dont i know it !! Used to be able to carry her no probs but struggle now nearly as much as i do carrying jack.
To all struggling with sleep probs you haev my sympathies!!! We went through quite a time of it with jack but thankfully they both now sleep from between 7.15/7.30 pm through to about the same time am then wake for a bottle and will sometimes go back over for half hour or so which is handy at the weekends

this is a very quick pop in and say hello . happy birthday sarah - i too am [shock[ at your youth... does that mean you were a mere 23 when you joined thread??

princess, you're going to start to get demands for rent payments off the hospitals. hope both you and ferdie ok.

strawb - i was a fortnight late, only princessllama and a absentee called jaythird had their babies later than me here. i have joined the June antenatal thread so that the poor posters on the May one dont have to listen to me moan everytime someone else had their baby.

egg - i am 22 weeks now. at the local hospital the handouts about the 20wk scan have all been scribbled on. At the top where it says What You Need To Know About Your 19 - 22 Week Scan, they have crossed out the 22 week bit and put 24 weeks .... the 28th (when i will be just over that 24 week mark) was the earliest that could see me . def finding out if girl or boy. want a boy now . but not called terry

will catch up proper soon, dh working tonight so bath and early night (with a quick celeb big brother diversion en route, just to stretch my brain like) night all

hi guys thanks for the happy bdays but its not til thurs!!!!!!!

Ah so grobag might not help then - ds is always standing up when I go in after his naps during the day but not in the morning when he's in his grobag but he must just be taking his time to wake up properly.

Egg I always feel more relaxed when the house is clean/tidy and I don't have a list of things I have to do going round in my head - so I can totally understand how you're more relaxed when you've had time to get stuff done. Hopefully you can have more days like today not that the twins are getting older and things are (hopefully!!) getting easier. I'm finding I can be quite ratty at times with the boys after coming home from work if I'm tired/stressed. So I'll have to work on that (or dh will have to work on multi-tasking so he can tidy/clean as well as looking after the kids!!). On the positive side it's easier now I'm not pregnant!!

SB you must be getting impatient for your scan - we get them around 19/20 weeks here. Very exciting!!

I also had lo weighed today - 19lbs 13 so dotting along the same line hes been on for a while. HV reminded me that the next round of immunisations will be coming soon - one lot at 12 months then MMR at 13 months.

i do smile when people talk about their lo's standing in cot. despite fact that dd can now climb stairs, walk along edge of sofa and crawl at a fair speed, she is lost when she is on her back. she's like a little crab . we have seen her go from back to another position ooohhh.....maybe four or five times. ever. i heard a loud thud from sitting room the other day and went to investigate with heart in mouth. she was lying there happily immobile on her back, hitting the two sticks from her xylophone together .

less nice was today's accident. dd loves to pull herself up on doors. i thought the door to dining room was shut securely. dd was standing up with full weight on it when it opened and she fell down flat.

speaking of which - gill, i cant believe malcom pretended to fall over for comedy effect. thats pure genius. i was wondering whether dd was G&T cause she has on occasion initiated peepo with me, but i now feel humbled.

alkar - how is your DS today?

Have no time for a proper catch up (how unusual!) am at work and supposed to be doing tutorial but no ones here at the mo. DS has been in hospital again, croup this time and something called stridor (a breathing complication), had to have steriods and stay in over night. He's sleeping so badly and keeps being sick with coughing. He wont eat any proper food because it makes him cough and now just tolerates sloppy baby mush and yoghurts. It's so exhausting, i asked about him being ill so much and wanted blood tests but apparently its all to with bronchiolitis he had last year, it leaves them with a 'weak chest' (as my granny would say). He hadn't got over the last infection that he had over christmas, poor lamb.

Hope all ok, whe do you find out blue or pink swotty?

Oh poor Toby. Hope he gets better soon. My nephew is in hospital at the moment with croup. He has been really bad. My brother found him in bed not breathing and had turned blue. He managed to bring him round and was taken straight to hospital. He too is on steroids and antibiotics but still finding it very hard to breath so there keeping him in.

Hope toby gets better soon xx

He seems to be picking up today, he kept going blue too, it's really scarey, he just couldn't get his breath, he must have been scared too but of course has no way to articulate that. The steroids really helped though, hope your nephew gets better soon missnat.

ginger hope the rest of the day went quickly. we're in the same club with the chest/cough/bronchiolitis. i'm going to take ferdie to a paediatric osteopath as soon as i can to help. once you've had bronchiolitis the mucous membranes throughout the respiratory system get inflamed and it becomes a vicious circle of inflammation and irritation and they are snotty and wheezy all the time. a good paediatric osteo can help calm the whole process down. anyway will let you know how ferdie gets on. we went back to a & e yesterday as ferdie's breathing got really fast again. obviously by the time we got there it had calmed down and he was waving at the nurses.resulted in another patronising talk with dr niall three hours of sitting in a cubicle later. felt embarrassed to be there, especially as the child in the next door bed was in agony with a sickle cell crisis.

swotty i think esther is g and t climbing stairs.
ginger and alkar and strawberry did yours go downhill rapidly? f seems to have slowed down in descent into misery. was fineish this am and then miserable and wouldn't be put down this pm and breathing fast and a bit floppy but not blue and no temp. suppose just have to wait and see.
meanwhile dd managed to sick up on a dolly at the playgroup this morning. i only discovered it as i was trying to get her to leave. she was lying down on floor flailing with everyone staring and me clutching f under one arm and trying to apologise to one of the helpers about the sick as i forced dd's arms into coat.
gill i love your description of sleep training-ahh!reminds me of me.
thank you for kind thoughts re biopsies. not sure is the same as the one you had gill or your friend egg as it's not the usual one. to put you in the picture, dh and i managed a small laugh that if it was bad i'd have to tell people i had cancer of the flaps. picture the place where you would scream the most when they took a biopsy and you'll know the place i'm talking about. sorry v much too much tmi. it's hard because am in some pain trying to sit down but can't really mention it. what i had before was severe dysplasia which went right to the margins of where they did the surgery. i'm really kicking myself that i didn't think more about the obvious symptoms i've been having since june at least. what an idiot. even more stupid, i made my follow up appointment for next friday because of child care so maybe won't get the results til then instead of monday when they come out. i wish i did know someone who had had the same thing.

Hi ladies, thanks for feedback about shoes. Friend made baby some of those soft leather walkie shoes and actually he can walk in them, a little, anyway. I guess it's a start.

Gosh, so many health travails in our group. Well, here's one to make you all feel grateful (ie, it could be worse). My DS1 has had threadworms (yes, sneakies out the bottie). Whole family being treated as a precaution, except baby, because the meds for babies give them stomach cramps and diarrhea, so I'd rather hold off unless he gets symptoms (he's whingey enough as it is).

Honestly, when I said I wanted a baby, I had NO IDEA I was signing up for this (worms, I mean). YuckaYucka-rooney.

Sneakies out the bottie. Love it.

Princess that certainly sounds no fun. It's hard when you can't really tell people about the details cause then you can't mention it at all without inventing stuff. At least you've got us!

Swotty don't forget there's a good age gap between our babies. And most of the "intelligence" stuff has really just started happening in the last couple of weeks (or at least I've started training him so that I can show off to everyone). On this smallest excuse to do some showing off I'd like to announce that this week's skills are roaring like a tiger ("aaaahhhh"), snapping like a crocodile (just a clap really) and use of the word hat (with a glottal stop not a t but then he is a londoner innit). Once he gets started on hats it's hard to stop and he repeatedly swipes himself on the head with his hat whilst earnestly repeating hat to anyone who looks interested.

Hope Toby better soon and Rozzy - yup afraid grobag is no obstacle to my little monster. On the + side last night he was only up for an hour and in the end he gave up and lay down himself. Praise the lord. This is the first time he's gone to sleep without me or DP next to him or touching him in a very long time.

rofl at cancer of the flaps . could you ring them to find out if you can get results earlier princess? or sort some childcare and try to get an earlier appointment? maybe post in health here to chat to someone,then you get to use words flaps in thread title. see, another silver lining....

ginger i am so sorry to hear that toby is ill again i cant imagine how hard it must be. two weeks today til find out... i shall have to stay away from the shops for a good week or so after as i just know i will want to rush out and buy spanking new stuff.

only an hour of screaming gill? how restful. less bothered by clever and more by the natural born entertainer stuff. a funny one would be fab

we can baa like a sheep here fairly consistently. that would be more impressive if she didnt say ba at almost anything anytime . "no esther, don't suck that." "ba?" oh! i know.... when you start to sing wind the bobbin up she gets her hands ready to do the clapping bit. she loves that bobbin song and it such a rubbish song. no taste... ba!

Oh no Ginger - hope Toby is better soon. Ferdie too princess - this bronchiolitis has really knocked the wind out of the poor things hasn't it.

Lljkk - I'm not too squeamish but the thread worms does make my skin crawl a little - hope you get it all sorted out soon.

Hope the nights start to improve soon Gill. I suppose you have to remember that he's almost a full year old so it might take longer to break his bad sleeping habits than it would say a 6 month old. When is his birthday? Must be soon because I remember he was one of the first to arrive.

Ds3 had his first bloody nose today when he was trying to climb the stairs(unsuccessfully he's been trying for a few days) and slid and bumped his nose. He's not showing any genius tendencies yet but everyone comments that he's a very smiley/happy boy .

Don't know what was wrong with ds2 today but he's been an absolute nightmare. When dh came in and said he'd heard he'd been bad today he just nodded so at least he didn't deny it.

Good progress Gill - hope the sleeping continues.

DS was fine all day but he's got hot again since about 4pm. Have given him calpol and ibuprofen but his temp is still 37.5ish which is ok but he's wearing a pj top in a summer sleeping bag with the windows open .

Croup is horrible ginger, we spent the night in a/e when ds had it. He was ok after steroids but he wasn't as bad as toby, he wasn't blue but his breathing was terrible and he was getting in a panic - not nice. I find it very weird that the ill babies seem to have had the same things, must be something in the 'weak chest' theory.

Hi all just a quickie to wish the lovely Sarah a very Happy Birthday for tomorrow, you are a baby compared to me, i'll be 36 on fri!!!

another birthday! Have a good one Leesmum, in case I forget on Friday.

happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me, happy birthday to meeeeeee happy birthdqy to me!!!!!!

now that was a very selfish post, "!!!!1

hope everyone is ok=

Happy Birthday Sarah xxxxxxxxx

Princess, yes both times we've had croup he's gone down hill very fast, seemed to come out of nowhere. There bronchiolitis started as a cough/cold and gradually got worse. We go to an osteo anyway 'cos toby has a flat head ! si i will ask him about it, i hadn't thought of that, thanks.

lljkk, sorry hun but that is quite funny! No offence meant but i thjink ut's probably the way you described it that makes it seem sofunny. I have to say that is something we have not been blessed with with any of them! Hope you get sorted soon.

Rozzy, grobags don't stop toby either, in fact dh tells me that last night (ds in travel cot in our room at mo 'cos of being a sick monster) he could see him jumping up and down holding on to the side of the cot in the middle of the night!

Happy Birthday Sarah!

According to my parents, who are sooooooooooooo biased ds can say all sorts of things including grandad and daisy (their dog), I am very dubious of this as they, and i quote, said he was perefct yestarday when they looked after him! Hmmm! He says cat (well ca) to anything with 4 legs and ta (sometimes) when you give him things and he dances whenever he hears any music at all (now that is cute!). The rest of the time he pukes, rubs snot in you and wails a bit! Oh and coughs a lot! Bless him!