December 2007 - Oh what fun, they are almost ONE!

[Caz10]

OK here we are ladies!

Gosh I'm sad, my messages are so boring. But if I wrote anything really interesting I fear someone I know in RL would come along and read it, as I know a couple of people in RL have read me on here....

And I'm helping to get us closer to 1,000

Well I think one of my friends might be an MNer! I wonder if she reads my posts!

I might have to think of an Easter name nearer the time...

Still plodding on with this training course, luckily I was able to complete of all yesterday's homework and today's yesterday as DS was in nursery and he is at home with me today.

I've got some bits to do today while he is having a nap!

I could pretend I had Clara, but no, it is just the original nickname I had. Am that yours is ducks, I had assumed you had chosen it because you were seeing the counsellor Sorry! I hasten to add that if I didn't 'know' you I would have thought ducks though.

AFAIK no RL friends on here, but if there are then they will know it's me, pretty obvious what with nickname and oics on profile

I mean PICS (although they can be little oiks at times...)

At the risk of entering into competitive mum land, how much are your babies talking? I've been meaning to ask for a while but keep forgetting. It's just that ds seems really slow to me but I don't know if it is that he is normal and dd was really advanced in her talking. He babbles and has several words but hardly any are particularly clear and he doesn't seem to have learnt any new ones in ages (too busy climbing maybe!). At this age dd was going through her Usborne first words books and saying all of them, and clearly. I don't know if it is partly where ds isn't that interested in books so I hardly read to him maybe? But we are always talking to him and dd tells him the names of everything so I was expecting him to have more words by now.

Clairey - my ds is exactly the same as yours... he babbles lots, says dad-dad, mum-mum, nana (banana), dat (that), dis (this) and yum.
But not particularly clearly! Your ds is very advanced physically? Mine is a reasonably early walker (been walking since just over a year old, so not as early as Douggie!) and I did read that some babies put all their efforts into physical development, and others into verbal development. Me and my brothers were typical of this, I started talking at 11mo months but didn't walk until I was 18mo (coz my mum made me!!), and my brothers walked at around 1yo but were very late talking and had to undergo speech therapy - but that may have been because they were twins.

Hi claireybee and BT - re talking. My dd has been talking for months now (probably since she was only 8 or 9 months) and she says loads - mama, dada, quack, grandad, granny, book, bath, cat, dog etc etc etc. She never stops talking!

I agree with your theory, BT, that they are either early walkers or early talkers - dd only took her first steps on her own about a month ago and she was slow to crawl too. Too busy chatting! I think it is a boy/girl thing too. Women talk a lot more than men and it starts early! Just a theory!

Hope you are all well. I have a dr appt this afternoon so I will find out if she thinks I need anti-depressants or even signed off work. I'm supposed to be back at work tomorrow after being on holiday for a couple of weeks but I have been feeling anxious a lot this week.

Good luck Louise - I am having to chase counselling because the one at the dr's surgery who was meant to call me hasn't, a week on, Not sure how long to leave it.

Clairey - at my name being about seeing the quack, not relating to spring-time/easter ducks!

My dd2 is a very early walker (first step just over nine months, walking properly at 10 months) but doesn't say much - ball-ball, car-car, memma (her sister Emma), occasionally mama, ga-ga for dada, more-more for more or water etc. She tries hard to make animal noises but doesn't seem that bothered about talking. I have heard that 2nd children speak later than firsts as the older one often speaks for them.

Phew Clara, glad you saw the funny side, was wondering if maybe I should have just kept that to myself!

The second child thing makes sense actually, quite often dd will say Douggie wants x or if I ask if he is hungry etc she'll say yes he is or no he isn't.

And BT he is definitely physical! DD did walk early but wasn't climbing/running/jumping etc anywhere near as early as ds has.

The last couple of weeks he has started saying a very clear mummy though, before we just got mumum or mama

Hope your appointment goes well Louise

well my DS was a very late walker - 14/15 months and he hardly talks so there goes your theory BT! Fortunately he is beautiful and charming so we let him off his late development . He says yeah, dadda, hiya, and I think he tries to say his sister's name but if his own mother isn't even sure obviously it is not very clear!

at clairey's claraquack theory!!!

Like the look of those trofast things...would def satisfy my arranging compulsions...

Does anyone with an older DD and younger DS (can only think of clairey...) have problems with willy grabbing?! DD is obsessed with DS's willy and has a hold of it whenever she can get near it! I don't want to make a huge deal of it and he thinks it's hilarious but at the same time it doesn't seem very appropriate! They also have occasional open-mouthed snogging sessions!!! Just as well no-one knows me in RL when I write things like that Any advice though?

Skid Milo was obviously lending his brainpower to you for your phd and now it's all done he'll come on in leaps and bounds

DD doesn't really touch ds' willy (she can't get to it cos he always has his own hands on it!) but she talks about willies A LOT. We'll be on the bus or in the shops and she'll say stuff like "has that man got a willy?"

DS has fallen asleep on me and has been for ages now (a rarity these days), am reluctant to put him down because I have loads of cleaning to do. Am quite enjoying the cuddles too

hello all

my ds not talking much more like just shouting at everything and he started climbing this week, arrggg, ds1 was even walking at his age!
anyone struggling with disipline? with ds1 at this age he was easily distracted, ds2 seems to have memory like an elephant he'll just keep going back to doing same thing no matter how much I try to distract him with toys, looking out of window, taking him to different room, ds1 has 'naughty' step but ds2 is too little and not sure how to control him

we have trofast too! don't know a house with toddlers without it

louise hope docs goes ok

x-posts skid yes we have willy obsession here, they share a bath and went thro stage of constantly touching each others, I just told them they could touch their own but not polite to touch someone elses, then ignored it and they seem to go thro fazes of doing it then not, its worse when one of them thinks its funny because then it encourages the other one to do it!

worst still is ds1 asking men in the street if they have a penis and telling everyone his daddy stands to have a wee but sits to have a poo, I'm just trying not to get embarassed by it, lovely man in town other day just looked very seriously at ds and said 'yes I do have a penis do you?' which shut ds up, I think he's doing it for the reaction!

OMG insy and clairey - think I will consider myself lucky then!! I would be so mortified if DD said anything like that to some strange man on the street - v. impressed with that man's reaction though insy.

I have told DD exactly what you said insy and try to ignore it but it is hard when they are both hysteric with giggles and in the bath so I can't leave the room or anything. DH gets very funny about it which also makes me laugh, No, DD that is DS's willy and you never touch anyone else's willy, with a big stern face. I can just imagine what he's going to be like when she's teenager!!

Not sure about Milo stealing my brain power clairey - it certainly wasn't permanent as I have been sitting here all day struggling to understand an article that I wrote

hiyall, i did a test - it was negetive, so i cried. alot! then i was relieved cuz of uni, but still no period last one was jan 22nd :S dd has started calling everyone bubble and pointing at there brests and shouting boobies mine at the top of her lungs. she told every1 in the library she had pood. and she keeps walking upto me when i am wearing a skirt and sez 'appy (nappy)- i dont wear nappies.

* whilst lifting my skirt and looking up it!

Aww Meme you dd sounds really cute if embarrassing! I still remember being in asda, with dh, dh's ex and dss. Dh's ex took dss to the toilet, when they came back out dss announced at the top of his voice "mummy did a really big POO!" (he was about 2 at the time!). She was mortified and Dh and I were wetting ourselves laughing!

Had a lovely day with ds yesterday, made the most of the sunshine to go out lots and he ran around the place he was having a great time! Ate really well BUT he still woke up 4 times last night (I ended up having to feed him during my online training!!). I really do despair of him sleeping through the night again... I really want some more sleep!

BT - if it makes you feel any better, I despair of ever getting a good night again. Dd2 has had us up every night for at least a week now and last night woke about every hour. She has a terrible cold and just couldn't breath so we had to take it in turns sleeping sitting up with her on us. Which isn't ideal as she doesn't sleep great like this.

Fed up. It's a phase, it will pass, it's a phase, it will pass.

BT (again) - sounds like you get on well with your dh's ex - or did this incident occur before you and he were together???

Meme, good to hear you're not pregnant, doesn't sound like it would be an ideal time for you to have another baby. Your dd sounds hilarious, and her speech sounds amazing. Now starting to worry that my dd2 is backward as she only says a few words but realise she's not the only one on here so I have to remind myself they all develop at a different rate!!!

meme - that is good news you aren't pg although I can understand your reaction too! I'm sure I would be the same

I agree that your DD's language sounds very impressive - especially putting words together already! A little genius in the making?!

clara - My DS is the same with words and I am convinced it is a 2nd child thing. When I think of how ridiculous devoted we were with DD - bedtimes stories from about 6 months old, long, long 'converations' months before she could speak, plus all that time you can devote to your first child that you just can't to your second, it makes me wonder how Milo has any words at all!

Sympathies on the night waking. It will pass but it is awful when you're in the middle of it. Just think in a year's time she will (hopefully) be sleeping through every single night and because you're not having any more DC, that means from next year you will have a good night's sleep for the rest of your life (well except when they're teenagers and don't come home until 4am, oh and when they're ill, and when they have nightmares....)

Hi all just popping in to proudly report that DD took first proper steps tonight! In her defence she won't be 15 months for another 10 days. She babbles a lot but not many words are distinguishable - up, down, NO!, more, mine and mummy!

I'm having a playhouse delivered for the DDs tomorrow. Am dreading it a bit as really have fingers crossed they'll get it down my driveway on a trailer OK! Combined birthday and xmas pressie from my Mum and me for DD2 (I know, setting a terrible precedent...) plus combined b'day pressie Mum and me for DD1 who turns 7 on 4 April. Am now feeling very poor.

Sorry haven't read back all the posts - will try and do better soon.

Skid Have you done much (any?) stuff on language acquisition in children? I'm just completely in awe of how they do it at the moment! Like the other day dd said "I falled mummy" and I automatically said "you fell" then thought wow! How bloody amazing is it that without even consciously knowing there is a rule she is able to take that rule and apply it to other words. It really is fascinating!

DS has a new word too, he was shoving dd so I told him off and said say sorry to Caiela and he said "Borry Eya" He likes his b's and d's that boy, most of his words starts with one of them (maybe because he is a Boy called Douggie!)

Buzzy am very jealous of your playhouse, I really want to get one but dh isn't keen. He thinks the uk weather means it will be unusable a lot of the year and it will get full of spiders!

Meme what a relief but I completely understand why you'd be upset about it too. Your dd sounds cheeky!

Clara poor you, I am actually getting more sleep than you at the moment .

oh clairey you are so clever - that is a huge huge area of research in language acquisition - over-extensions it's called. I don't look at it specifically but one of my colleagues does and it's fascinating. They think that babies learn rules like that statistically - i.e. they hear a verb with and -ed in the context of the past so many times that they learn that adding an -ed makes the past tense (slight simplification!). Also saying she felled me when fall doesn't take a direct object is due to the same pattern of statistical learning.

You should come to Oxford and do a PhD

congrats to your DD2 buzzy - it's all the more exciting when you have to wait for it, isn't it? (My DS has only just started walking too) - love that little wobbly toddle!