January 08 Shiny New-Year Babies, not quite so shiny they are nearly one!!

[Lilyloo]

is this ok didn't want to loose everyone courtesy of Lucky!!

Probably making a fuss over nothing.

So what if you don't wait - what have you got to lose?
Just the price of a test!

If it comes up +ve then you know, if -ve, you'll just have to wait a few more days and test again.

Most tests come in packs of 2

JKS - you're a devil!

LaT -Do a test!!!!

Lilyloo - HAPPY BIRTHDAY

JKS - Breakfast and tea in bed yum. DH has just made me a bacon sandwich!!

Took Dcs to DS's old playgroup today as they had a photographer there. He got a nice pic of the 2 of them together

Meeting a friend for lunch today while DS is in pre-school which will be nice.

Did I hear murmurings of a London meet-up??

Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday dear Lilly
Happy Birthday to you
And many more
Had a bit better night last night. George woke at 4.30 for his usual feed but unfortunately woke at 6.08 witha very full nappy and didn't want to settle back down again. DH got him up so I sorta had a bit of a lay in.
Test? LaTrucha? Have you yet? Can you bear to wait? I know I couldnt.
Is anyone taking there dc to see Father Christmas? DH and I were just debating this last night as last year ds3 just went into one just as we got the front of the queue and refused to go in where as ds4 did go in but I think was a little stunned. So the question is do we risk three crying kids at the front of the queue or just give it a miss for a year?
Well were going to have a busy household this weekend. My parents are visiting plus my big boys are staying so gonna be busy. Love it though.
Well have a good day all xx

wow thanks ladies def feel older today (i do every day actually)

Just been shopping for a new coat didn't get my uggs yet still looking round for them! Also got some reins for high chair!

DS went into school quite happy today just said to him as he went in whatever you decide about the singing it's fine , love you and gave him a kiss so will see tonight!

LaT i would test now too!

MM poor little thing hope he settled better for you in the night sounds like he just wanted comfort!

MrsMc you just reminded me about the balloons for dd thanks

Simpson enjoy the lunch!

Gingeme , JKS am very of the lie in dp went to work ultra early today so up at 6!

Just told dd i would like to go have long bath , glass of wine , read a mag and then go for an afternoon nap for my birthday and wake up to my tea (lol can dream) instead i need to get some shopping , take ds for haircut and shoot over to dancing with dd at 4 and dp going to be late home tonight And i don't ask for much

A friend had her birthday yesterday - i bought her a Hello mag and a big bar of Galaxy and told her to get her DH (who had taken the day off) to let her enjoy it with some peace and quiet - it isn't much really but it makes a difference
can you defer your b-day to the weekend?

ds1 loves pre-school, comes out knackered so watching Nemo while he zones out.
ds2 had a long nap this morning so not sure when he might go down later...and we are meant to be going out at 3 to have tea at a friend's.
(bit awkward really as her DD and my DS1 don't get on, they always seem to end up fighting and DS is really not like that with other children )
and we aren't great friends either, ho hum.

going to try and do some baking with ds1 before we go to have something to take - chocolate biscuit cake i think, yum!

gingeme - for my boys i would give FC a miss this year but in-laws have booked us in when we are going there in a few weeks.
I guess you could ask the older 2 if they want to go and meet him??
where will you put everyone at the weekend?

i have everyone coming at christmas - think my sis, her dh & their 2 girls will share one room, we will share with ds1 , ds2 will be in splendid isolation, one set of g-parents can have our room, other set will have to stay in a hotel, younger brother can have the floor downstairs, other bro & his dp can stay in hotel too.
feels mean kicking some people out but really, we only have one bathroom

and other issue - my sis lives in france and they do things differently to us, their girls don't go to bed until (ish (sometimes 10 when she was here last) even though they are 5 & 1.5.
really don't know how we'll play it with ds1, will have to let him stay up a bit i think but i see it being a nightmare

oh well, should try and sort laundry while boys are occupied....

lat - tested yet

we going to il's in Leeds on Fri and they sitting for us while we go out then they taking ds and dd1 to see Nemo on Ice at Sheffield and dp sis going to have Martha so we may go shopping in Leeds on Sat !

Gingeme don't know if we will see santa did the Lapland uk last year which both dc loved so may well do!

just ordered my uggs after finding a free delivery and 20% off code on here !!!

Lillyloo sounds like a kinda good day. Wouldn't realy call ia a lay in. DH couldn't be quiet if his life depended on it plus 3 shouty children . I kinda dozed. Don't feel any better for it I can tell you.
JKS I asked ds3 if he wanted to visit FC this year so he could tell him that he has been a god boy and what presants he would like. He said yes please? but we'll see when we get nearer the time.
As for fitting everyone in my flat the big boys sleep in the little boys room. One on a blow up mattress and the other on a flop down bed.
My Mum sleeps on a double blow up mattress in our living room and my Dad sleeps at my uncles.
Usualy works pretty well though not sure how it will work when the cot is in the boys room.
I saw a heavily pregnant lady this afternoon. George was giving her some beaming smiles. I said to DH 'I looked like that this time last year'. Which he replied 'don't have to worry about that anymore now eh>'.

Wel, I have bought one

(LaTrucha peers round mumsnet door, waving box temptingly....)

D'ya think I should wait for first wee tomorrow?

(LaTrucha whips box back with a flourish and a cheeky grin on her face)

Seriously girls, it's FAR too early.

(LaTrucha taps hr fingers and tries not to look at the box.....)

LaT - why did you just buy the ONE??!!?!

but yes, really you should use first wee.....

wait if you can, hahahaha!

gingeme - do you find that the little boys go to bed/sleep ok with the bigger ones there too? or do you just accept the sleep disruption while the bigger ones are visiting?

Really wanted to have my 2 sharing by Christmas, if they were, then we could go in with them for a few nights and it frees up another room. (we have 4 bedrooms and a lovely house but right now it just doesn't feel big enough!)
seems mad to have 4 people in one room and henry on his own in another!

(nosy Q - are your parents divorced? or does your dad not want to sleep in your living room? or your mum not want to stay with uncle? ignore if you want )
mind you with the 5 boys there, i think i might prefer to get some sleep somewhere else

Lily - sounds like a good weekend yet to be convinced on uggs

just had my starring role in Nemo 'just keep swimming, just keep swimming' la la la

one BOX ... will wait ....

First wee tommorrow it is then LaTrucha. Think JKS is right though should have bought a double pacc!
JKS no my parents arent divorced. My Mum doesn't get on too well with my aunty , Mums sil, so she usualy stays here and yes my Dad is a bit of a grump in the morning so its better all round if he stays at my uncles
The little ones still go to bed pretty good when the big boys stay. The big boys love helping at bed time anyway which realy helps

Ooooh LaT hope you can hold out till tomorrow

Gingeme - was all prepared to take DS to see Santa this yr but its a fiver and I know DS will wimp out and be too scared, so we may leave it this year...will play it by ear.

DD has had a grand total of 3ozs of milk today and 40 mins sleep all day, so don't know what is going on there!!

Things have gone totally tits up here and think it might be the end for me and DH. Just don't think I can cope with it anymore.

Sorry to bring thread down

simpson - what has happened??
(((hugs))) for you regardless.

thinking of you...

He has basically said he is hindering Dcs development and he can't cope with work ATM.

He wants to sell house etc but I know he is not in his right mind and not thinking straight but am Soooo fed up of smiling and pretending everything is ok.

He expects me to move back into my mum's and give him a break but am not going to have to think of Dcs. If he wants to leave that is up to him...

Simpson - i don't really know what to say as i know nothing about mental illness but...

if you could take out the illness for a bit, it sounds like he wants lots of things we all want:

• not to have to deal with work/stress/responsibility
• not to have to look after the children (when they are young and hard work)

but wants:

• to stay at home

• peace and quiet

- and so on...

do you see what i'm saying? it's all about what he wants and what suits him. this makes me quite on your behalf as it's so unfair.
and worse because he is ill and the illness is presumably making him say these things so you can't shout back

don't go back to your mums unless you have to as it disrupted ds last time didn't it?
and you have enough on your hands with dd at the mo i would say.
could your mum come to yours for a bit?
and dh go to (was it your brother?) somewhere else?

Plus, he MUST go back to the docs in the morning to discuss meds if he feels like this. surely they can up the dose???
Or can some of his Irish family come over?
You need more support. Have you tried the MH boards on here for ideas?

Good luck anyway.

Oh Simpson, I'm so sorry. Sending you big virtual hugs.

Are you feeling ok? Obviously not. Good on you for staying put. Is he showing any signs of leaving? Why does he want to sell the house?

Oh no Simpson and things were looking so positive a couple of weeks ago! ((hugs)) for you and dc. xx

Thank you guys. I am so upset I just want to curl up in a corner and cry

DH is in front room watching football like nothing has happened

JKS - you have hit the nail on the head mental illness is very selfish.

TBH it may seem selfish of me but am more upset at losing the home I have worked so hard to provide for Dcs then losing DH Dh is such hard work sometimes, having to watch what I say etc.

We have a lovely house and the Dcs would lose everything. I have worked so hard to make friends near me and Ds has got school and I can't afford mortgage on my own

Am so upset.

simpson if you don't mind can i have a quick rant about my afternoon? insensitive i know but no dh/other adult in ranting distance tonight

went to friend's house - had to wake ds2 to get there late.
ds1 not want go, want stay home all day, love my house, cry, sob, etc....
get ther, her dd and ds1 fight/push/shove most of the afternoon, turn on tv, let them watch dora/lazytown etc.
ds2 a total grump, never grumpy.
neither ds will eat any tea at all.
ds2 bangs head on table leg - big bruise & lots of tears.

and ds1 comes in sucking a fruit shoot bottle - i react badly and take it off him, oh it's empty she says. ok so it is, stress over.
ds1 now wants one (has never had one btw) but wants a special drink from a special bottle...
i try to discreetly check the ingredients - full of crp so i politely say, no i wouldn't give him one of those (k so not politely but i tried!).
oh, she says, i've got some flavoured water ones, they're just flavoured water.
phew, yes he can have ones of those. he downs it, i check ingredients - SAME CRP AS THE OTHER ONE
both boys grumpy & tired, we leave, get home and collapse - was it worth it????

well, it was for 1 thing - she gave me dinner too so i got into bed at 7.30 and about to sign off for the night now
may feel human tomorrow.....

sorry simpson - feel better now! hope you and dh can talk it out tonight?
(((more hugs)))

You should definitely NOT lose the house and friends/school/network YOU have worked hard for.

Can't believe him really.

Is a bit telling that you'd rather give him up than you life/contacts/whatever/can't think of a good word...

Maybe ask him to pack a bag and see what happens next?
Or get brother on side/to come round first?

Thinking of you Simpson. IME (had an ex with bipolar) the self- absorption is part and parcel of mental illness unfortunately. Psychotherapy and meds kept him on an even keel. Its was still so hard to be in a relationship though.

Could he be persuaded to read "Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy" by David Burns, you could too. Lots of coping strategies.

simpson he needs to leave for now. you need to stay put. Get your dad round to help you get him out.

sorry it sounds harsh but beating about the bush won't help for now.

this is the second time in a short time that you feel it is over and it is telling that you worry more about the house. This is not healty and you must not stay out of guilt for his illness, it does not help.

you have my number, I am home alone tonight.

LaTrucha, how do you expect me to sleep now
well that is assuming that I otherwise would , last night was a joke. I managed to get some sleep then woke up from dh's valiant attempts to settle Nathan, Nathan fell asleep but dh has a loud cough and every time he coughed Nathan started waling again , turns out dh heard nathan let out an almighty alarm cry (I didn't? must have been out for the count) and found him lying at the head end of the cot, across the cot with bent legs (too long to fit in otherwise) tangled in the cot bumper we have at the head end to stop him headbanging when cross, and completely stuck , poor thing. It was 1.40 then and he fed, then woke 3.15, then 6.15, then slept till 7.30.

He has had more naps today though so was not so overtired tonight, hope that helps. Also took him to Wacky Warehouse, why did I not think of that sooner? We got in free as he is under a year and he loved the floor mats, we did loads of rolling. He was not sure about the ball bath thing, the balls are still a bit big.

JKS, sounds like an afternoon that was a waste of make-up. Fruit flavoured water has either additives or sugar or both, some people believe everything, you are right it is cr*p. You calmer now?

Hi everyone else

Lily how is your birthday?