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March 2008 babies: Why aren't humans born with teeth and other important topics!

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MarchNowFebMum · 12/11/2008 11:31

new thread - old one getting too big for some...

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turtle23 · 13/01/2009 08:31

MB-right there with you. Cant do this much longer. After his 4 or 5 sllep throughs we're back to 3-5 wakings and every day starts at 430. I want to die.

littleducks · 13/01/2009 08:33

at 3am dh announces he would be quitting his job today..........not quite sure how i still ended up ironing his shirt before he left then as i left the kidss to cry last night and for him to sort out as i had seriously lost my patience with them due to sleep deprivation and mastitis

HQ- hope it is a minor injury and that your gp is just being overcautious

turtle- sorry to hear about the doulas and the domain names hope that the realise they need to return the courtesy

merry- my ds is still toothless and i wait in dread, does seem like a maor evolutionary failing to be born toothless, any chance of curling up in a corner and sleeping at large loud playgroup, i have often thought nobody would notice at the big playgroup here

and to finish this is how a converstion went with my dd today:

dd: who did i take to reading? mr happy or mr tickle (current fav toys)

me: you didnt take either, you took other toys, i think you took your ewok

dd: oh, but i wanted to take mr happy

me: i asked you and you said you wanted your ewok that day ,so you took him, maybe next time you can take mr happy

dd: but then i will say, I WANTED MY EWOK

(probably the truest thing she has ever said)

littleducks · 13/01/2009 08:36

x post turtle, in the early hours i was considering just how awful it would be to drug my children to sleep, in my defence they were both terrible last night

MarchNowFebMum · 13/01/2009 09:34

hq, they are really overcautious about hip type things before walking, we had a hip situation in the spring, it was different but they ordered a scan and everything and when i was freaking out the technician told me that as soon as they hear the slightest hip problem in baby, all sorts of things go into motion.

had v frustrating day at work yesterday and seriously questioned why I am bothering. and feeling overwhelmed with early AM, work annoyances and then home to do housework and admin until the wee hours of the night, then bget up and do it all over again. rant over. was so nice to come home to dd who was all smiles and cuddles! made me feel so much better...and dh being star at helping in AM so will get through.

love to all the teethers and their tired mummies!

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CricketsMum · 13/01/2009 10:15

hello, hello and happy new year to all

sorry for suddenly disappearing for ages and ages - went to stay with my sister and her LO for a couple of weeks, then got the Noro virus courtesy of my LO and then went on holiday for 2 wonderful weeks over Christmas and New Year. Now trying to get used to it just being me and DD again and get my head around going back to work, childcare and all that!!

New niece is gorgeous - sooooo tiny! Little sis finally named her this week (5.5 weeks - she was running out of time to register!) - Freya Jessica Belle. Saw her on Sunday - very cute. Am only slightly that all she does is sleep. she is literally only awake for 4 hours in 24 (unfortunately they tend to be between midnight and 4am but it's still a lot better than my dd was at that age!!!!! I can't really complain because [whispers so as not to jinx anything] dd has finally started sleeping through... after a huge amount (2 months) of sleep training, we have had 2 weeks of 9-10 hours at night, with only 1 blip so far! hurrah!!!!!!! after being up 4-5 times a night every night for 9 months I can't tell you how different i feel. huge empathy to all those going through broken nights at the moment. hope it improves soon. (and am really not meaning to sound smug if it is coming across like that... we are still going to sleep at 8pm as are not convinced that this sleeping phase will last!!)

Not much else to report... still don't have the next teeth (top two have been pending for MONTHS). am convinced they are coming through but they never appear! Not walking yet, but pulling to standing on everything and just starting to let go and stand independently for up to 30 secs at a time which scares me to death as she wobbles and wobbles before sitting back down. She's just had a growth spurt and suddenly can reach lots of things i don't expect her to be able to reach - top of desk for example... nothing is safe!!!

anyway. just wanted to say hi... have missed far too much to comment on everything but hugs to everyone having a tough time at the moment... hope it all improves soon. and Happy New Year all.

merryberry · 13/01/2009 13:30

mnfm, did you go back to work? thought you were finishing pre-xmas?

(dives into someone else's life in order to ignore lack of sleep in own)

cm, good on your sis and freya...did they argue over teh name, or simply not come up with one that suited for a while? my prob has always been too many candidate names.

littleducks, i switch on the lights and smeil and nod and suck down bad coffee at that playgroup, but noone's home ...its so big you don't really have to engage with anyone much and the boys knwo it well eniough to just munter along and do stuff. and its a big walk there and back which perversly makes me less sleepy.

oooh, turtle, bring back thos sleepthru's heh? going to curl up on sofa for half an hour (i hope)

turtle23 · 13/01/2009 14:12

Thank g-d for Baby Einstein. That's all I'm saying...zzzzzzzzz

wearehipsandmakers · 13/01/2009 19:26

Wish us luck-DS has his teeth out tomorrow. He seems remarkably realxed about the whole thing but DH and I are working ourselves into a frenzy.
Congratulations Evie, I can't imagine doing it all again but you must be so pleased.
Anyway, calming big glass of wine has just announced its presence by the glug glug glug so I'm off.

Dontpanic · 13/01/2009 22:30

drive-by hello!

HQ, {{{hugs}}} and hope all goes well Thurs, you must be shaken up yourself.

Wearehips- why the teeth removal, have I missed a post in the melee?

turtle {{{hugs&sleepingpills}}} - Baby Einstein is losing a little of its appeal here, but the flashcards fascinate LO, he could stare at those, turning back and forth for ooh, 10 mins before getting bored

Hello lurkers

Back to my budgeting of cashflowing in the wrong direction.

littleducks · 14/01/2009 08:24

wearehipsandmakers- good luck am sure your brave boy will be fine while you and dh fret

ds spent hours screaming inconsolably last night no amount of cuddles helped , i got to sleep from 1 till 5 and am so tired from past few days, managed to get dr appontment for 9am which will hopefully will solve, and luckily isnt same gp who made me feel like i wwas time wasting and all embarassed and then decided that ds actually was ill enough to warrant antibs which havent improved things

but i have to hurry back as my new best friend aka the ironing service man is coming between 10 and 1 to collect, as i dont think i should be allowed near dangerous objects on so little sleep.....as i set fire to greasproof paper on a baking tray while lit gas on hob at 5am and had to pat it out with a spatula!

CricketsMum · 14/01/2009 09:20

i officially jinxed myself - we've been up since 4.30... well i say up... dh and i spent an hour taking turns to try and persuade dd back to sleep, and bless her she was trying but is cutting a tooth (finally) and was in too much pain, so 5.30 i brought her into bed with us and bfed... and then we cuddled and dozed till 8 which was actually lovely. not feeling too bad at the moment, but commiserations to those that are. LD - be careful!!! Sounds like you need to get someone to babysit for a couple of hours so you can get some rest - any chance of that?

MB - my sister decided as soon as she realised she was preggers (18 weeks.... loooong story) that if baby was a girl she would be Lily Belle. Her boyfriend said she wouldn't as he hated it but sis ignored that. Then when she was born boyfriend put his foot down and they have spent the last 5.5 weeks coming up with options that the other didn't like. Boyfriend got so fed up of it that at the beginning of week 5 he gave in and said they could go with Lily Belle, at which point sis decided to have moment of perversity and said 'but she doesn't look like a Lily anymore!! i think by that point boyf would have gone along with anything so Freya was agreed pretty quickly after that!

going through an irritating stage with dd - she is determined to walk but too wobbley to actually do so... so she stands up independently next to me and wobbles until i offer her a hand to support herself with at which point she starts walking off and i have to follow or pull her down to sitting. very frustrating!!

have a meeting with work tomorrow to discuss roles etc and going back. not sure i am looking firward to it with an active dd in tow!

HolidaysQueen · 14/01/2009 10:41

wearehipsandmakers - hope you and DH are fine today. Sounds like DS should breeze through just fine

LD - sounds like you are having a rubbish time of it at the moment. Echo what CM says - anyone close by who could come and give you a break for just a few hours?

First night's sleep (apart from a short yelp that didn't need attending to) after 4 badly interrupted ones here. It is the biggest myth of having children that once they sleep through then that is it and I am making a conscious effort not to pretend to anyone who is pregnant that they do sleep. Might be scaring them, but I do wish someone had told us so we could appreciate the 11-5 much more rather than just wishing it would be 11-7.

Weaning going badly as it is very clear that DS just hates the taste of formula after a month of not having it and becoming more assertive in that month. Pushes it away very decisively. Tried to trick him by offering spoon of yogurt, spoon of milk, but he will take the yoghurt but sniff and turn his head at the milk, then turn back again for yoghurt. The boy certainly knows his own mind now! Off out to buy some different formulas today in the hope that it is just Aptamil that he dislikes.

JFly · 14/01/2009 11:55

Oh, bitterest of ironies. G and I have been so deathly ill for four days but somehow he has slept through for the last three nights. But me? ME? No, I wake up a couple times a night hacking up a lung, needing a drink or nurofen to stop the shakes, etc. Listen to me, Universe, this is NOT funny!

Hope all appointments and procedures go well and that some of us eventually get some f-ing sleep!

littleducks · 14/01/2009 12:07

HQ- what was ds dob? (totally brain dead atm) may be worth just starting to introduce real moo milk? not supposed to be a main drink till 1 but if that is 5/6 weeks away maybe getting him a taste for it wouldnt be a bad thing? then you could drop the last bfs when he is 1?

ds has fluid in his ear after infection which is why he is acting crazy, dosed him up on junior nurofen on dr advice, couldnt buy it in a non sugar free version to my annoyance

got myself a higgidy pie and dd and ds a annabel karmel toddler meal to share, which should be interesting as i am generally very sceptical of her brands, as she spent years writing books encouraging good eating habits then calls her ready meals "EAT FUSSY" fgs! But i wanted a 'ready meal' which was solid enough for ds but had no salt in.

Any recommendations for that sort of thing? I heard cook do a toddler range???

wearehipsandmakers · 14/01/2009 12:28

DS has had his teeth out and it all went fine! He was the easiest patient they'd had that morning apparently. He was the youngest which may or may not have helped. He only got upset because he wet himself while under the anaesthetic but apart from that was fine.Puts my quivering bag of nerves-ness when waiting for my caeserean to shame .
He's not supposed to exercise much today so we have nixed a bike ride so instead he is bouncing round the house on his space hopper but I'm not sure how we can stop him.
HQ- have you tried using formla in the flavoured baby cereals. Maybe mix it with normal milk as well and see if you can get him used to the flavour that way? I gave DD one of the Organix ones with raspberry in it and it was a shocking pink so he wouldn't even associate it with milk.

HolidaysQueen · 14/01/2009 12:59

JFly - you poor thing. The only thing I can think of to cheer you up is to say how much worse you might feel if you were having to get up to G while in that state. Not sure if that exactly cheers you up, but thought it worth trying

Hurray for weare's DS Will take a look at flavour/colour things, that might be a good way to get him started and then gradually decrease amount of flavour masking i have to do.

LD - my DS is 41 weeks according to HV on Mon so still a way off being 1. I tried him with a little bit of cows milk as well just to see if it was a milk thing but he drank that - a bit dubious but much better than formula - so def a formula taste thing. Still far enough from bday that i would prefer him to have formula for now. Someone on my thread in bfeeding section said to try Hipp as it is creamier so maybe more like real milk. Will give that a whirl, and if not then I might just have to get my head round bf for longer and then start intro cows milk gradually in a month or so when he is getting close to 1.

I haven't heard of any ready meals that are toddler type, so suitable for BLW babies - the only ones i see are baby stuff so are too mushy for DS - but would love to know of any you find. The thing I do for when I need something fairly instant and no hassle is to keep some cooked pasta in the fridge and reheat briefly by pouring boiling water over. Usually have some pasta sauce or other in freezer or fridge, and DS doesn't like food very warm, so everything gets 30 secs in the microwave and that's about as ready meal as it gets!

FfreckleFface · 14/01/2009 15:53

Took Ff to the evil health visitor today...hadn't had her weighed since her 8 month MOT, so thought I should get a rough idea of how heavy she was so I wouldn't have to keep shrugging at my mum and MIL whenever they ask.

So...dum dum dum daaaaaaaaa - she is 15lb12oz, which puts her over the bottom line. Ff is officially on the chart! She is still under the 9th centile line, but for the first time since she was 2 weeks old she is over the 0.4th centile.

It makes me feel less of a failure as a mother...especially after this morning when she was the worst behaved baby at music group. All the others were sat nicely in their mummys' laps, waving their hands about, while my baby crawled to the middle of the circle and sat, banging her tambourine on the floor, intermittently shouting along or blowing raspberries at people.

HQ, I hope that it all goes well at the appt tomorrow.Turtle, how was last night? Any sleep?

Waves at everyone else...have to run and mash the spuds for the cottage pie before Ff wakes up.

merryberry · 14/01/2009 18:41

hq tried goat's milk formula?

HolidaysQueen · 14/01/2009 19:14

hurrah for Ff

mb - was looking at goats milk formula today but may have a breakthrough. refused hipp (new formula) when sat all snuggled up, but just before tea i gave it him to play with sat in his high chair while i sorted his food and he drank some. not huge amounts, but definitely drinking. so instead of trying the bf replacement cuddles on sofa with milk technique, we'll try the pretend it's a meal and get into high chair technique.

HolidaysQueen · 15/01/2009 17:00

DS has broken his tibia. In 2 places. Or maybe 3. I feel so shit

FfreckleFface · 15/01/2009 18:08

Oh no. Don't feel shit though, HQ, it was an accident, and not your fault. What did they say at the hospital, how are they going to treat it?

Thinking of you.

CricketsMum · 15/01/2009 18:57

HQ - poor little thing, and poor you! ditto thinking about you both. don't beat yourself up about it though. as ff says, it was an accident.

MarchNowFebMum · 15/01/2009 19:56

ff, our dd's are twins, that's the exact thing she does i class. she's mad!

mb, was supposed to quit work and just do some odd consultancy type jobs for them but then my replacement can't start until march so in a fit of insanity i said i'd help out until he arrived. must read some sort of learn to say no self help book

hq, higs!

everyone else, hope you are hunkering dow for a good night's sleep (one can dream)

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FfreckleFface · 15/01/2009 20:16

MNFM - they are probably destined to be rockers (Bloke will be thrilled...), and that's why they are the rebels of the music groups.

wearehipsandmakers · 15/01/2009 21:24

HQ big big hugs. Hope you and yours are good tonight. Please don't beat yourself up over this, it was an accident.
(from my experience, something to get used to).