June 2008: weaning with every flavour baby rice . . . . and loving it!

[spongebrainbigpants]

new home!

cot bumpers - I've got some ... mainly for exactly reason you said (except its arms rather than legs at risk round here) -I'd not heard of this before I put cot bumpers in, room is always kept cool so i took the risk.

re sleepign on tummy, isn't it ok if they can turn over?

thanks poppy, the problem is that he can't consistently put himself back onto his back but he can turn his head easily from side to side so that he doesn't bury his face in his mattress

Strawberry shortcake and my little ponies are big news in this house, dd actually has a my little pony that she inherited from me. She has just asked me, if a person is dead and you move their arm, what will they do? - erm, nothing, they are dead. 5 year olds are very odd sometimes.

I really think that the whole work/sah issue is totally down to personal taste and circumstances. I chose to sah after ds1 was born because he would have spent 10-11 hours a day in a nuersery otherwise and I personally felt this was too long. I also would have effectively spent all my wages on his childcare. 3 kids and 7 years down the line I certainly don't regret it, and have loved the time I have had with my kids. I also have friends who went back to work initially and then quit when their kids were school age as they found the whole school run + clubs/activities etc was impossible to do with the childcare available. Its is therefore a discussion which never goes away.

Thanks for that alipalli. I really hope your mum didn't face too much of that. I had two m/c's before S and part of me feels that it was such a long journey to get him, we should count our blessings and enjoy being a small family.

My little ponies are still kicking around poppy - maybe we should get one for ali

Cotbumpers - I've got them because they match the nursery . I don't understand the overheating thing after all, cots are pretty open. Moses baskets are small and padded so what's the difference?

No idea on the tummy thing sponge sorry.

sybil I agree the work/stay at home thing is really personal. Not that some MNetters see it that way . I personally will be going back to work 4 days a week for financial reasons and because it would drive me mad being a full-time mum (as much as I love S).

We have cot bumpers as Luke started getting stuck at a very early age. He now has learned to pull them up and sometimes we come in to find him underneath one looking out through the bars to see when someone will come and get him! He has also found the bit where the two edges meet and often has his foot stuck through the hole. Never understood why there was anything wrong with them though.

I feel like a big weight has been lifted now I have an official plan of action re going back to work. I will miss my boy loads and I know I will feel guilty but will look forward to seeing him so much instead of feeling dread about the day ahead which I'm feeling at the moment. That's just me though and I'm sure I have a touch of PND and have booked to see the docs tomorrow to talk about it.

Not much on telly. Just posted on AIBU... heheheh!

Where is everybody? Am I missing something good on telly?

I can't view any pages pre this one? Is something wrong with MN or is it my pc? Sorry if I've missed anyone.

Sponge - We didn't get cot bumpers because my HV said they were a SIDS risk. But please don't panic everyone because I've just been on the FSID website where it clearly states that this is complete b0ll0x!

Ryder sleeps on his front and it bothers me so much. But it's either that or he doesn't sleep so I've learnt to live with it. (Happier now I have a breathing sensor mat though).

BDQ - I'm sorry you had such a hard time before S.

Amber - Luke sounds so cute peeping out from under his cot bumper. Good luck with the doctor tomorrow. I wondered about PND myself. In fact I wonder if I have PND every weekend...that sounds like it should have a joke afterwards, but it doesn't. I just find the weekends really hard for some reason. I keep saying that if it carries on consistently for a couple of weeks I'll go the GP, but it seems to lift during the week. Perhaps it's just spending time with Shane...

When I go back to work, I'll be home by 5pm and as Ryder goes to bed at 9pm, it means I'll be spending 4 hours playing/feeding/bathing him. I don't think I spend that much time focused on just him now. My decision is purely financial, which in some ways makes it easier because we literally have no choice. If I didn't have to go back, would I still do so? I don't know. I honestly don't think there is a right anwser and I don't mean that in a generic sense, I mean just for me. None of the solutions (SAHM, FTWM, PTWM) feel 100% right. Then again, I was always warned that motherhood was all about compromise.

Essie - Yes, you're missing Tom Jones. Again. Hee hee. He looks taller and less orange on TV though.

Quick q - can hear S snoring away on the baby monitor because his nose is so blocked. Poor wee mite. Tips for clearing? Am sure there has been chat about this previously but it obviously didn't stick in my brain!

Oh, I'll be chatting to my mate Tom later on, PP. Tim was scanning the photo in the evening standard (and online in...the Daily Mail!) to see if he could spot me. There is a candidate, but I don't think it's me. I think I have better hair.

Amber totally x-posted with you - not trying to ignore talk of PND with flippant comments.

BDQ vaporizers(sp?) were the answer. I saw some in Boots today - Amber and HH had expensive ones, but Boots had plug in ones for £5.

BDQ - I used saline drops (as recommended by AliPalli) and they worked. I've also read that a steamy room helps, you could always have a hot bath tomorrow and take him into the bathroom with you?

Off to check the Daily Mail for Essie.

Tom Jones Photo Second photo, bottom right hand corner in the red coat? There goes your anonymity Essie!

Tom Jones Photo Second photo, bottom right hand corner in the red coat? There goes your anonymity Essie!

Morning all

Have skimmed through posts, Have been busy here trying to do last min things before i go back to work.

Re famous people liking the Tom Jones!!. I saw and spoke to Derek Jameson (radio 2 presenter) when i was little on a canal boat, I met the cast of Upper Hand, And i have been out clubbing here in Gran Canaria with (cant remember name!!) one of the members from the band Marmalade, the one that did Obladi Oblada There hardly fantastic claims to fame though!! My best one though has to be Darth Vader who visited me in hospital when i had tonsilitis!!!!

Nights are better here since dropping the night feed Fleur now wakes at 1.30am for a feed and she really does need, then she sleeps til 6.30am/7 Hoping that eventually that feed will get later and later

potty training officially sucks. Nappies are wayyyy better.

Fraser was up for an hour with DH crying last night. I think it might be teething - he is biting me while feeding (ouch!) and he finally fell asleep after having calpol. Does this sound logical to people?

It's snowing here... lovely wet fat flakes!

LOL at 'must watch some boring telly' Sponge. Have you seen Eastenders and Corrie recently? Dire!

Sorry you are feeling low Amber. Get to the docs and don't feel bad about taking pills for it if he suggests it. Sometimes you just need them for a while to get back on track. There is nothing wrong with them. Try to push for some counselling as well though. It helps to talk to someone, I had a bit when I was in my early 20s and it was very helpful (tho most of my problems were down to taking too many drugs and drinking too much and when I stopped doing that I got much better )

Well Theo and Esther slept from 7pm last night till 8am this morning without needing a feed or a cuddle or anything! I didn't sleep too well tho cos I was sure they were abotu to wake up any minute or be dead . I always get like that when they change their routine.

Re SIDS risk, the danger zone is 2-4 months but I think babies up to a year are at some risk. If they can lift their heads then lying them on their tummies should be fine (they'd move their heads if they couldn't breathe) I know it's still a worry tho. I worry about mine all the time.

Most famous person I met recently is Steven Gerrard. He lives in my town and I was out with a friend last year (before I was PG) and saw him in a local bar. He said 'You're gorgeous', I said 'Oh, thanks', then he said 'Do you like me?' and I said 'Not half as much as my husband does' (DH is Liverpool season ticket holder). The Alex Curran turned up so he toddled off!

Well, next episode then - Alex slept til 5.30am! Had 1oz of water and went back to sleep (he's going to have amazing skin with all this water he's drinking!). So the cot bumpers worked a treat. He was then awake again at 7am and had a bottle, then came into bed with me until 9am. Bliss.

Amber, hope doc is good - if he's not interested go see someone else.

PP, sorry you feel low at the weekends - maybe see doc too to talk through.

Essie, can't believe you're in the DM!

Talking of famous people then, we went to stay in Hay on Wye last August when there was a folk festival nearby. Having a drink in local pub, who should walk in but bloody Robert Plant! I didn't recognise him but him and his girlfriend came to join our table (we were the only ones in the pub) and I asked him if he'd seen any good bands!!!!

It was only when he went to the loo that one of my friends pointed out that he was one of the most famous Rock Gods in the world!

Anyway, he was lovely and bought us a couple of drinks and spent about 3 hrs with us!

Well no need for me to meet famous people because now that I'm in the DM, I'm famous and you should all be privileged to know me. But seriously, is it really me? I can't tell. Tim wasn't sure either. Not knowing the back of my head... also, I don't think I had a bag with me, and I don't think I was wearing my coat. (I was, however, wearing a red jumper.
Ah well, next step Heat's top 10 gorgeous women.

Iestyn is being annoying now - his new thing is to refuse to be cuddled to sleep for naps. He wants to be put down and not touched. But he also doesn't settle himself well. He's been crying all through this post so will try picking him up now.

Morning all,

DD1 is at home again as she vomited last night. GP thinks it's because she is so worn out after her kidney infection. DD2 has an infected toe but is at nursery.

RE famous people. The most famous I've propbably met are Metallica. DD1 did nearly trip over Gordon Ramsey once. The most recent one I saw was Micheal Parkinson but that was because DD1 was in an advert with him.

RE only children. It really is such a personal choice. I'm an only child and have always wanted three children but some others I know have wanted to have just one child as they liked it some much.

Sometimes I wish I could go to work for just a few hours so I have an identity other than 'mum' but it's just too expensive child care wise and I don't want to work on the weekends as we would miss out on family time.

I've never seen anyone famous - I must hang out in the wrong places and be terribly uncool

Oh and Amber - can you (or someone else) post a link to where you can buy those weaning net things that you can put fruit in?

Me, I'm famous Aberdeen, we should meet!

I saw one of those net things in Mothercare yesterday. Different make (munch, chomp, something like that) but same idea. I think you can get them on amazon too.

Essie, sorry to hear about Iestyn's sleeping/napping - he was like that on Wednesday wasn't he, settled when you put him down! I suppose that's quite handy if he does settle!

Would I sound ever so smug if I said that I'd met a few famous folk, had my picture in the Mirror and Guardian and been spotted on tv once or twice? .

Thanks for suggestions on sniffly noses. What are saline drops [thick, less smug emoticon]

Wriggly S on my knee with smelly bum (still having tons of dirty nappies ) so need to go. Sorr for not commenting on any other posts!

Watch out Ladies, I am going to have to have a rant.

I am really beginning not to enjoy my NCT meet ups. There is something about our group that I find seriously winds me up. Here is a list of things that have annoyed me this morning:

1. I am the only one not weaning yet. The oldest in group wont be 6 months till the weekend. I am learning to accept that just because the guidelines say 6 months this is ignored by just about everyone. However what I really can't stand is the weaning = good motherhood assumption.
2. There is one person moaning that her DC has started waking up again having always slept through - 4am for the last two nights, cue much rolling of eyes and gosh I'm tired comments from her. I'm just jealous of this more than annoyed.
3. The conversation being dominated by "the Thick but Vocal One" spouting her completely inaccurate parenting advice, to the point where no-one else gets to say anything.
4. "The Trendy One" hanging on "the Thick but Vocal One"'s every word. E.g. "Really you are right to wean him because your BM can't possibly be enough for him anymore
5. The "Nauseatingly Nice One" agreeing with everyone about everything: "Oh yes, its sooo great that this has happened, etc.
6. The people I actually like never saying much.
7. Nobody asking me anything. I don't think that I am a wallflower with no people skills, and so I try to chat to everyone a bit, but no-one else seems to make an effort.
8. Competitive parenting in general: is x doing this? Y is doing it too, but sooo much better.

etc, etc

I am so glad that I have met the London Ladies otherwise I would despair about socialising with Mums in general I think.

Rant over thanks for reading. I am now going to re-read the thread and post a separately in response. I am also going to hope that none of my group lurk on this thread . I am sure that they can't otherwise they would be better informed!