April 2007: if it walks like a toddler, talks like a toddler and tantrums like a toddler...

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In honour of everyone who refuses to believe they are no longer babies (Pesha, NL and Dippy )

me too

Aww, Baby Hannah sounds lovely! I saw some pics of my friends new twins the other day - little 5lb-ers soooo yummy!

Have been to school for reading, to Monkey Music, to the Toy Library, and then out for lunch, then back here, now off to school again for sharing assembly! Feels like I am in school more than N is sometimes - what with helping with swimming yesterday, and going in for a Christmas play rehearsal next Wed!! I am really enjoying it actually (apart from the rushing about) and am glad that my work is so quiet that I am able to help loads at the moment - won't be so easy in the New Year.

Ooh, Vio has got photos of H on Facebook already - off to drool!!

Evening

Hi All.JS how is F doing?
Hope all are well.Aint posted much as am knackered and crap company.Have posted on a few other threads and wished I hadn't.Will now only look on mumsnet at our group!

feel shit
T screaming in cot
Me crying
DH angry with us both

oh spbWhy is T crying?Tell dp to feck off or sort it out!!!!!

cos he's wide awake and has been put in his cot
Really hate DH right now

Oh SPB How are things now? Had T been asleep and woken up?

Dooby, lovely to see you What threads have you ventured on to....

JS, hope F is feeling better.

Where is POTC?

All ok here. Went to something called Arty Bobs with K this afternoon. She headed straight for the easel with the paint pots, picked up 2 brushes and shook them - paint everywhere! She had streaks of yellow, red and blue in her hair - very amusing.
Picked up our poor cat this afternoon. He had to have 5 teeth extracted poor bugger. He is doing fine though. The vet said he would probably slink off somewhere quiet and sleep. He has been quite alert and has been around me all evening bless him.

Feel pants again this evening - bloody sinuses hurt.

How is everyone else?

Put a pic of me and dh as Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt (yeah right) on my profile. This is what we went as to my Cousin's 40th party which was "A night at The Oscars"!

Sorry you're feeling ill SOL, DH has had a sinus thing for weeks now just not been able to shake it
How are things with your mum?
No, he hadn't been asleep. It seems that if he has more than ha;lf an hour asleep during the day he doesn't want tyo go to bed. Finally slept at about 10, awake and screaming again now. I could kill DH for this

Oh spb, really wish I had something constructive to say but I don't, sorry(being tipsy isn't helping ) Why is DH being such an arse? d has not been sleeping well lately due eczema and illness and I'm really not good without sleep and peaceful evenings, I don't know how you manage. just saw you on the support thread, I hope that helps if only a little. i'm trying to think of things to suggest but I'm sure anything I can think of you will have already tried/thought of yourself. Does 'this too will pass' help at all???

I have been celebrating my last day in my 20's but it is over now so I shall go to bed. I am officially old!!

And hes just woken up...

Happy Birthday!
Well t cried all night & is angry and we're all exhausted. Result, DH!

Morning.

SPB, why is it dh's fault?Sorry if I have missed it. Hope you are ok xx

HAPPY BIRTHDAY PESHA!!!! Hope you have a fab day/night

All ok here although slept really badly - not due to dc, just couldn't switch off.

What's everyone up to today?

poor you and T SPB!

Crap night here too as c has cold but fear not, dp and i are headin into town to do xmas shopping, then casino for friends party then staying over. Happy days!

SPB - that sounds rotten. I'm not totally clear either on what your dh did though - do you disagree on how you should handle this?

Dooby - don't let the reaction that you got on the news thread put you off - I've seen that reaction on several threads in the last two days and it really annoys me. The number of mothers here who think its ok just to shove your head in the sand and ignore any side of life you find distasteful - well it just stuns me! It's worrying too - what kind of generation are they raising? One who won't get involved who doesn't recognise that life isn't all boden and parents who don't argue and everything is fluffy?

Hi to everyone else - love the pic SOL - you look fab. I think dh should have had a blonde rinse though

Dh is out at a music thing for church today so it's just me and the girls. I need to get my act in gear shortly and take them into town (aaargh) to look for new boots (aaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh)
My work is fine but I've been very, very busyt this week. Discovered that some of the ordering was all to pot and theres no robust system for how we know we've got what we ordered so I need to work on that next week. Am also trying to prevent our elderly patients being taken on a tour of the county before they get home on hospital transport! Grrrh! I do love the job though and there is so much to do. B continues v happy at nursery. She is doing loads of painting there at present. I can't tell you how glad I am that it's there not here! Got their school photo back yesterday and there is a lovely one of the three of them

Oh and SOL - is your mum still getting out on Monday?

Thanks for being nice everyone. Yes, DH was the one saying "I've had enough, we are going to do this..." last night and when I protested said "we always do it your way, never mine". Basically we'd already agreed that we were going to night wean at christmas whenwe have time and don't have to get up for work, so I took that badly. The other ones are he wants me to stop bf and he agrees with smacking, and I've put my foot down on that
Anyway, feeling better now as T seems fine, thought he would be angry. DH being ultra nice to both of us and I think feeling guilty. I'm still angry and feeling s sorry for my little boy.
Sorry for self absorbed post

Hi NL

Sounds like you are hectic.

Yes, Mum is due to be released on Monday - my Dad's birthday

Seems they can't do any more for her now. They met with the oncologist yesterday, but seemingly he wasn't able to discuss treatment - he said it all depends on how mum recovers from surgery. They were a bit frustrated, as they thought they might get an understanding of what would happen.

Off to see them both tomorrow.

T isn't going to be angry with you - babies don't hold grudges! Your dh is out of order in telling you to stop b/feeding - thats for you and T to decide but(dons hard hat) he may have a point about the night feeding. It is obviously taking a strain on all of you and I'm not aware of any specific nutritional benefit T will be getting from night feeds now? When exactly does he have night feeds - is there any pattern? And what time does he go to bed and is he in his own room?

x posted - SOL I can understand that she is frustrated but it is good sense for her to be as strong and recovered as she can be before further treatment. Has she got a colostomy? (Sorry for spelling - no idea if thats right or not)

SOL - glad your mum comes out on Monday, I bet she can't wait to sleep in her own bed! Hope the next step becomes clearer soon - I didn't realise it was so complicated.
NL - he night feeds a lot
i agree it's a problem, but we had agreed a plan (sort it out at Christmas, doing what DH suggested) but he threw in my face saying "we never do things my way" just because I didn't want to leave him to cry then and there

Ok - are things coming to a head about this?Bbecause if they are I think it could be tricky to leave it to Christmas to sort it. Thats more than a month away and thats a long time for you all to be stressed about this. Perhaps you can break the night into sections - so if he wakes between 8 and 12 you won't feed him but dh will go to him, reassure and leave - or you could leave him to cry. To be quite honest - I would leave him - but thats me and if you don't want to do that then you absolutely shouldn't - you have to agree between you a consistent response you can both live with and then stick to it. To carry on with the sections - if he wakes between 12 and 3 you will feed him once and the rest of the time dh will need to do the reassuring. If he wakes beyween 3 and 7 you will get up to him but not feed him. You will get there - whereever 'there' turns out to be but I mean this in a kind and loving way - you've BOTH got to give a bit on this and work together. It's not you and T against DH or DH and you against T or T and Dh against you. You are a unit and its teamwork that will get you through.

Feel free to chuck stuff at me if you like - it's very easy to type it, much harder to live it.

Yeah I do agree, but that was the compromise in the first place - I would rather never leave him to cry but agreed to do it at Christmas. Am more that I've been accused of never listening to him or agreeing to do things his way.
T cried all last night and no doubt will do it again tonight. To my mind that implies that it's not right for him (what happened to "he cried a bit for half an hour but then fell fast asleep") but if that's what DH wants then that's what we'll do. As well as stopping bf. But he cannot smack him.
Thanks NL

SPB - don't stop bfeeding if you don't want to. My point is dh has to compromise as well. Tell him you are listening to him and you want to sort it out as much as he does.But don't stop bfeeding altogether in an atmosphere of resentment - that won't help either of you and you need to tell him that. B still has a feed in the early evening - it's getting briefer and I'm hopeful she will self wean soon (she's got to her birthday then I will have to pull the plug ) I don't feed her at all at night because she only wakes briefly and can self settle (hope that continues) but thats what works for us there is no box marked 'sleep solution - one size fits all' You have to look at your child and do it and I know thats what you are doing. Do you feel perhaps that dh is missing that point and thinking of T only in terms of what he thinks babies should do?