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April 2007: if it walks like a toddler, talks like a toddler and tantrums like a toddler...

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StealthPolarBANG · 04/11/2008 20:15

In honour of everyone who refuses to believe they are no longer babies (Pesha, NL and Dippy )

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Sexonlegs · 15/11/2008 13:01

NL, you are a star Your advice is just wonderful.

Re Mum, she has a temporary colostomy.

So sweet; dh napping on the sofa. I said to K to go and have a lie down with Daddy. She is and they are now both fast asleep! Want to take a photo, but sod's law they will wake up. Mind you, lunch is now ready... Never wake a sleeping baby???

StealthPolarBear · 15/11/2008 13:06

Take a picture!

Doobydoo · 15/11/2008 13:07

SOL..Great news about your mum coming out.I hope she takes the time to make a good recovery
ready for the next stage.
Happy Birthday Pesha
NL...You are indeed a star.Thankyou so much
SPB...We tried controlled crying with ds1 it was awful and he made himself sick and we were a wreck.We decided that it wasn't ok for him or us.So we resigned ourselves to the fact that we would lie with him for up to 2 hours for him to go to sleep etc.It can be knackering but so is going against your instinct...and it is for such a short time.I hope you are all ok today.

StealthPolarBear · 15/11/2008 14:05

Any news from JS about how F is?
Dooby -that's what I would do and TBH I don't think it was that bad, the only disturbance would be him feeding, he didn't cry. But that disturbs DH, well fair enough but this seems so harsh to me After all DH has been sleeping in the spare room for the last week (so we don't all share his lurgy) so it really can't have been that bad!

Doobydoo · 15/11/2008 14:14

Poor you spb.At the mo sometimes M is in with me and dp and sometimes me or dp in with with ds2 and it s like musical beds!

CaptainDippy · 15/11/2008 15:03

Awwww, cute SOL Did you take a pic? So glad your mum is coming out on Monday - what an amazing Birthday present for your dad Hoping they can decide on next course of treatment soon - very frustrating > Loving the pic of you & DH as Brad and Ange - made me Recognised my baby too - yey! You look gorgeous

Couldn't say any of it any better than the amazing NL, so just hugging really. Definitely think smacking is bang out of line for a child of T's age though!!

Girls getting a bit crazy, so going to put on wellies and drag them through the mud for an hour or so ...

StealthPolarBear · 15/11/2008 15:32

In his defence this was a conversation about discip[line in general rather than T at the moment

oooggs · 15/11/2008 16:24

oh katy - hope things have improved

happy birthday pesha

shouldbepackingpesha · 15/11/2008 16:41

SPB - it worrys me that are you talking about giving up bfing when I have always got the impression you intended to carry on as long as T wanted. Sorry if I'm wrong but don't let your DH, or anyone else for that matter, push you into it if it is not what you want - no good will come of it, mark my words! (I am old now I have to talk like that! ). Ahem, sorry, what I mean is if you don't want to you may well end up resenting dh and holding it against him, even if you try not to.

I thought D was giving up as he was down to once every 3 or 4 days, sometimes once a week, but then since he has been ill he is now feeding 2 or 3 times a day. But if he wakes in the night I give him a bottle unless hes really screaming uncontrollably (which he has done a few times and bf is the only thing that will calm him) or its gone 5am in which case I'll bring him into bed to feed him. Was talking to my friend the other day and she said 'yeah but you'll have to stop him soon' I know she thinks bfing older dc is weird etc as I remember her talking about that programme a few years ago but I was still a bit put out that she said it like that and nothing I've said to her has made any difference to her opinion, and she feels the need to tell me I have to and couldn't just think its a bit weird but keep it to herself iyswim and put it down to personal choice.

shouldbepackingpesha · 15/11/2008 16:49

Oh and thank you all for happy birthdays!!!

Ellie is on her way down now to help me celebrate! Going for meal with J first then off to the lovely bar/club with nice (cheap!) cocktails!!

Pretty disappointed that my friend (the one I just mentioned) is not coming out because her husband won't let her but he is an arsehole very contorolling and I don't think shes ready to stand up to him yet on this one. Having been in an abusive relationship (should point out hers is mentally abusive I believe but not physically) I do understand how hard it is and I know how manipulative her dh can be and how he can twist things to make it seem like hes right when hes plainly not so trying hard not to let it upset me too much and cause a problem between us because I know she needs all my support if shes ever going to be strong enough to stick up to him.

StealthPolarBear · 15/11/2008 17:20

lol grandma
Thanks - not sure how it's going to go. Think I'll prob end up giving it up fairly soon. Wacth out for me on the "boobs like watermelons" threads
Very worrying about your friend, is it usual that he won't let her out or is there something specific this time?You are right that she needs support - I remember your posts when she left him, so that she's now gone back/

JellySnakes · 15/11/2008 17:55

Hello everyone! Thanks for the concern re F. Thankfully she is a lot better today. The ulcers have finally started to heal and she has eaten some food too which is such a relief!
The GP reckons that the last course of antibiotics she had (which only finished little over a week ago) may have caused the ulcers so I am really hoping that we won't be in the same boat again a week after this course. She only had a week break between the two courses, but not much you can do when she gets a chest infection then an ear infection one after the other I guess.

SOL, glad to hear your mum is doing well and still on course for home on Monday. Hope she gets some answers to her treatment questions very soon. I am going off here in a minute to look at your photos on facebook!

Pesha, Happy Birthday! Have a fab evening.
And 30 is not old you cheeky mare!!

GM, it is so lovely to hear you talking about Vio and baby Hannah. So pleased for them all and glad to hear all is well

Maveta, I know what you mean with the money situation. Just as I think we have a bit of breathing space something else comes along to mess things up!! I may be getting a few extra hours a week after Christmas, and much as I don't really want them, the money would be great so I am seriously considering it.

SPB, hope tonight will be better with T. Sounds like you had a really horrible time of things last night. It is so difficult when you don't agree on how to manage the situation. I really hope you manage to sort things out between you and dh xx

Ok, I am off now. Take care ladies xx

JellySnakes · 15/11/2008 18:02

SOL, I couldn't see the photo, did you take it off?

StealthPolarBear · 15/11/2008 18:02

That's a relief JS so glad she's better and eating

Maveta · 15/11/2008 19:07

Glad F is on the mend JS, know what you mean re. extra hours. Kind of relieved there´s none on offer for me because I know i wouldn´t be able to turn them down and am really enjoying being pt again.

SOL - hope your mum recovers quickly and you are able to get some answers soon x

SPB - sorry to hear you are still struggling with nights, sleep deprivation is so awful. I night weaned N a wee while ago and luckily for us it was ok, though I can´t really remember what we did now. What is it with forgetting things so quickly? Can´t think I´ll be any better off with the second baby as every milestone we seem to get through, I seem to forget how we did it straight away!! Probably because we muddle through with no real theory and by sheer luck something finally works

Dh is also subtly putting a weeee bit of pressure on to stop bf but the other day I agreed with him and then burst into tears so I think that melted his (cold, cold ) heart. Anyway, I´ve been slowly dropping feeds and that same day stopped his 5pm feed. He was only a bit sad for 1 day and already a couple of days later he would hit my chest in his sign for a feed and then wag his finger at me saying ´nononono´ and grin! very sweet, not upset at all. Now only feeding him at bedtime and tbh think I´ll keep doing that one until we are ready to drop it. Or rather, me, think N is one of those that would bf forever! [eek] Although I do think dh has a say, on this one i have final decision, I know I´d hold it against him if I gave up before i was ready. It´s such an emotive issue.

Wish I could help on your whole night waking issue but god knows I have little enough idea of what I´m doing let alone in a position to advise anyone else!! Just hope you guys muddle it through sooner vs later too. Dh occasionally raises the smacking thing but I have made my (very strong) feelings clear on that. I would be so so angry at him. The hardest thing is when you´ve agreed a plan of action and then it all goes out the window in the heat of the moment but I know i am guilty of that one I have to stay well away when N is refusing to settle as dh can get it under control much quicker whereas I have been known to rush in and gather him up which kind of ruins what dh is trying to do and really pisses him off (understandably). Dh now has to do any night wakings as if N sees me he just freaks out and wants cuddles etc etc but dh just goes in, sits in the chair and N settles straight back down. I would put a face but actually, it means I don´t have to get up so HAHAHAHA is all I´ll say on him winning that particular battle [evil]

What a rambling post...

StealthPolarBear · 15/11/2008 19:09

Anything you wat to tell us Maveta?

Maveta · 15/11/2008 19:22

lol lol lol.. I KNEW i should have put (hypothetical) in there

No. no news from me I´m afraid.. it´s not even on the cards for another year or so. Even if I was broody (which I am definitely NOT) we are severely constrained by finances. What about you though?

StealthPolarBear · 15/11/2008 19:51

Worth checking!
We're trying, I need to test in a couple of weeks, but not getting my hopes up. Well I am but I shouldn't.

Sexonlegs · 15/11/2008 19:59

Ooh SPB you kept that one quiet Good luck!!

Hiya Mav, lovely to see you.

JS, so glad F is on the mend poor lamb. Long may it last. The photo is on my MN profile

Pesha, hope you have a truly fabulous evening .

Been to see Santa arrive in town this evening which was lovely. He shook hands with B and K

How is everyone?

StealthPolarBear · 15/11/2008 20:00

Santa
Far too early

Sexonlegs · 15/11/2008 20:04

Yes, it does seem v early tbh, but it was a good evening, apart from when the fireworks went off and scared B to death.

StealthPolarBear · 15/11/2008 20:06

ooh poor thing

oooggs · 15/11/2008 20:14

evening

enjoy your night Pesha & Ellie

katy - hope T is better tonight

sol - wow to Santa

mj - glad F getting better

Maveta - money not in a position to discuss that one!!!!

We have been having sleep problems with DD who wakes for no reason and won't settle unless in with us then she settles immediatley - its hell. Well I have removed ds2 from their room and she is learning and did really well last night so once it is totally cracked I can move ds2 back in (he is currently in our room in the travel cot) I wish this loft conversion was going quicker!

StealthPolarBear · 15/11/2008 20:49

sorry you're struggling with sleep too oooggs
Hope it get better.

Sexonlegs · 15/11/2008 21:38

Hi Oooggs, was wondering where you were. I expect you are in bed now Sorry sleep seems to be an issue in your house too. Not what you need.

Elkie, how is your poor cat btw?

Am knackered, so going to go to bed after the X-Factor results. This time last week I was dancing around like a nutter!