July 2008 - Rolling, rolling, rolling, our babies just keep on rolling!

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TJuice, I'm still using my pram. It's a German one my DSis gave me with suspension, blow-up tyres (and I put a new set of tyres onit recently - I was ridiculously pleased with this). It's lined with a sheepskin, and I think Orlaith just looks so comfy in it. I know the weather here doens't get anything like as cold as Denmark, but I prefer her to be screened from the wind, which wouldn't happen in the buggy mode.

Tjuice-

Abigail is still in the pram mode/carrycot bit of her pram. Its pretty roomy so i reckon she will be in till at least 6mths. Cant imagine her in the seat bit... she'll look soo lost!

Abigail sleeps really well in it and seems pretty comfy.

Jodie - which one did you get I was kind of hankering after the red sheep one too

bebejones - I too want another one, why???? I have no idea I have 3 I'm stressed, my body is shot to pieces, I haven't the room for another one but hey they do something to your brain babies they are just so gorgeous, why do you think theres only 18 months between my first two?

rumpel - you always amaze me with all your gardening, everything I plant dies, I planted some trees last year and you should have seen them this year 3 leaves each

purplejenny - welcome back

Tjuice - I love sleeping with babies your right make the most of it. The big Danish pram sounds divine.

SK I got this one I too liked the faux fur ones, eps the wolf one (grrr) but like you said, might be too warm if wearing a snow suit too, esp if we are in and out of shops and stuff.

jodie me to
i read or kinda skimmed rumpels post to read that blind man was terrifying her stopped in my tracks and re read it i guess we both are stupid
i have a quinny the big wheel version and samuel isnt in his pram now but buggy mode
but its so good and cushions him against the wind so well
but i have been thinking of getting his pram back out and propping him up in it as his immunity is rather low and i guess im a bit worried hes going catch a cold and the pram bit is so comfy as well
he is 20 weeks now and still cant sit in his bumbo but we have been practising i sit him in it for a few minutes and hold his head he isnt happy and seems vert uncomfortable like this as he has something wrong with his spine
lets hope for happy mummies and sleepy sleepy babies
yeah right !!!!

Very cute can't wait until they arrive, I'm going to convert the P&T into 2 toddler mode and off we go, although cannot decide whether it would be best of DD2 to go in front or back? DD2 likes to walk a bit now and I was thinking the back seat could be her hop in and out seat? Also I go out a bit with just B so could just set up as a single?

I want a buggysnuggle too! Am watching several on ebay.

Don't have a decent cosytoes, so do need one.

Florence won't go in her pram anymore- in fact we have freecycled it - she just wants to sit up and look around all the time! However, I have to say it was a small, not very cosy pram and her toes practically hung out the end. I'd love a big 'continental style' pram but would never get it in our house!

Padded bedroom on wheels sounds lush, I'd like that...

sk agree! I feel so isolated cos i just acnnot manage to get out in time for toddler groups...

its so frustrating

i think it will get easier .....will it?

purplejenny - look at my link buggysnuggles on special offer and free postage maybe cheaper than ebay. (SK does not work at advertising buggysnuggles)

i have a cocoon for my quinny he is so warm in it in fact a bit to warm in it

i have a babysnuggle and it rocks! no pram blankets to kick off..and he stays cosy and warm.

I'm excited now. SK how long do they take to come?

tjuice, hiya- i use the carseat on ma pilko, as she likes bn nosey, wen exactly cn u use the bubbymode from?

also im so sorry about sam disney 4ts with u

laptop messin up, cant b asked to retype everyting.

Hi Ladies..

Please can you share with me your LO's nightime habits.

I am really getting stressed by Abigails nightime wakings. She would go to bed at 8,dreamfed at 11 then wake for a feed at 4 then straight back off till about 7 or 8 which was fine.
The past 3 weeks or so she now wakes anytime between 2-4 and wont go back to sleep for a good hour or two afterwards no matter what we try. Then wake 3 hours afterwards 5-7 but again will be awake for ages.
Its so frustrating and Im finding this lack of sleep again hard.She just seems to have gone back to her newborn days

I laid in bed in tears last night tying to rock her off as I am beginning to feel like I just cant do it anymore
Things are always ok during the day but at night everything gets on top of me IYKWIM

It just seems that everyone elses babies sleep through apart from mine!

Any Ideas,Tips,Advice????

pigley sorry to hear you so down in the dumps, sleep deprivation is what they do in torture!

Do you still give Abigail her dreamfeed?

Jodie- yeah nothing has changed. Her bedtime routine is still the same.

She drinks her Dream feed fine and goes off ok then.

I think this is what makes it harder to understand... why oh why?

Exactly the same happened to me at about 14 weeks, I dropped the dream feed, partly as I was too knackered to stay up to give it him, ans secondly it didn't seem to matter what time i gave it (tried giving it later to see if he'd go longer). Once I dropped it he was going back 7-7 within 2 nights.

Try it, you've nothing to lose, you're getting up in the early hours anyway!

Afternoon all just back from photographers hopefully got a good one of B lying in a basket giggling away, feel like the worlds worst Mum I have pictures of DD1 and 2 all over the place but none of B, poor neglected third born child.

pigley - I'm the last person to ask about sleep, I take B up to bed and give her a feed at 8pm (after big two are in bed) sometimes it can take an hour to settle her, then it's never the same two nights running, last night she went to sleep about 8.30pm, think she was up at 1.30ish and about 4, then up at 8 this morning, I just give her a feed when she wants it. I tried GF and all the routine stuff with DD1 and got myself really stressed as she wouldn't fit into any routine so gave up. I just go with the flow, she dictates to me when she wants fed.

I suppose we have a day and night thing as at night it's feed lying down, dark room, no nappy change unless he needs it. Usually she's very good at just feeding and going back to sleep apart from the other night. I don't care about feeding to sleep or bad habits there's time to sort all that out later.

You are bottlefeeding right? I think you should drop the dreamfeed too, only feed her if she wakes up and asks for it IYSWIM? Can't hurt to try it for a few nights though can it?

Think ill try dropping it at the weekend. DH is home then so can help if it all goes tits up!

Thanks for the advice... I just feel at my wits end. Feel like such a bad mummy for feeling like this.

Pigley don't feel like a bad mummy, sleep deprivation is awful and can make you feel rubbish and cranky....why do you think it is used as torture...because it is!!

I feel like we are making a bit of a rod for our own backs with P's bedtime 'routine'. She has a feed at 6ish, then has either bath or playtime. Usually she nods off on playmat and stirs around half 9/10ish. I give her another half a feed then take her up put her in sleeping bag and give her rest of feed before turning lights off and putting her in basket awake but sleepy. Works for her now but worried might be difficult to get her out of it and into an earlier bedtime!!

2nd lot of jabs today for Phoebe...bless her, her little leg was very bloody! Getting very upset bout all the excess flab...off to munch on some carrot sticks!

bebe - oh don't worry about it, we spend so much time worrying about bad habits, I think you just have to do what you need to do right now, i.e. what gets you the most sleep.

hi pigley sorry you having a rough few nights i thinl sleep deprivation is the worst thing ever too
my only advise it routines now not times etc.....but lights bath etc
i bath samuel around6 ish or if not a bath hes on the washmat on his dresser same toys on there same procedure then pyjamas and a cuddle not much toy stimulation and i think its time to wind down the day not hype it up iyswim
i feed him in his room and read him a bedtime story then lie him down and turn on his mobile he has the one that illuminates the whole room with fishes and projections
he does moan a bit and has a grizzle purely as ive left him but doesnt cry
he sleeps till 11pm ish then dream feed then sleeps till 3am but feeds in my bed still the same though i dont look at him or speak to him no lights on he goes right back of till 7 or 8am
even as a newborn i did this i never spoke to him in the night
no idea if you do this and no idea if it will help and if it did it may take a few days to work depending on your routine as such now
or try catching some sleep when she goes down early and drop the dreamfeed maybe she has changed the rules again
just when you think you got it sussed they always do it
good luck hun she may be a monkey right now but what a beautifull one she is

Pigley - no advice I'm afraid as R is doing something very similar. In fact he was doing well just like Abigail before she changed, and now he is waking at 11ish (sometimes 9!) then again at 4 and staying awake for about an hour. Don't know what to do either. I have never done a dream feed - just feed him when he wants - very occasionally just once a night at about 2am, usually twice at 12ish then 4/5ish, sometimes 3times. Never know what it is that made the difference. I could just about cope when he was going straight back to sleep afterwards, but now he is burbling awy for an hour in the night it is much harder.

Rumple - I know I am going down the route of depression and I should go to GP but can't quite face it at the moment ( a bad sign I know!) but thanks for your support.

EEC off to look at buggysnuggles...

Hi All,

JODIE?DISNEY at the 'blind' man - it always sounds weird. Anyway it was far too expensive so we are getting out other blind companies ie not conservatory only ones to see what quotes they give us. £1600 for blinds - eh no! TBH it's Dh who is really wanting them. I could think of better ways of sepnding the cash at the mo'.

JODIE v well doen on the weight loss. You are .5 lb ahead of me now

DISNEY - are you still tube feeding Sam and how is he after his hospital trip?

PIGLEY - i don't think there is any rhyme or reason to them. They have off nights just like us - bad dreams, head full of stuff, too warm, too cold etc. they just can't tell us apart form cyring or whinging. This too will pass [hugs]

Calvin had a great sleep last night - was up at 11.40 to feed him. Checked DD who was lying there coverless then DD woke up at 12.40 and ended up sleeping with me until 6 this morning. We did hand and feet painting this afternoon - was beginning to feel guilty as I did DDs with 1 of those kits when she was a baby - can't remember how old and it is framed on the wall. Calvin's will be joining it now I bathed them together and put his foot up against DDs - it is only about 2 cms smaller!! he has such huge feet - he is in 9-12 months vests and sleep suits now - Next ones too so they aren't small made I don't think or are they?

I'll get him measured/weighed again Monday.

EEC - work up the strength to see your GP - honestly it will make a world of difference - even just having a chat about it - PLEASE

Got my blood results back today cholesterol is 3.4 cannot believe it - I thought it would be about 5 due to massive cake/toblerone consumption over the years and family history am If I wasn't such a fat pie I would go celebrate with a cake

Anyone watching Miss Naked 2008? I love Gok - he is an Angel sent form heaven to help vulnerable and needy ladies Who do you think/want to win? Patriotically I loce Dawn but I think she is a bit too gobby to win - too overpowerring for most but will make a fab lawyer. I think that Natasha? The girl with the red hair should win as she is lovely and warm and seems to be very caring and also has an opinion.

Anway enough of my inane waffle am off to get ready as Boots has a special evening on tonight and I am off out when DH gets home.

DH has just been accepted for Uni too - 3 years distance learning studying for his BSC Chemical Engineering not sure how he will get on. It takes all his energy to get to work and back and do his job but we are trying to have fall backs for the future in case he needs to retire early 'cos of his medical problems.

MINNIE - how is your DH now re the seizures?
DISNEY - how is your DH now after the heart probs?

Byeee allxxxx

hey girls..seems we are all in the same boat with ever waking babies. Aidan used to sleep through and now for the last three nights started waking up several times and would not be put down without a feed. UGH!!! so feeling your pain Pigley DV said after 17/18 weeks we might just have a hungry baby on our hands and if we felt the time was right we could introduce solids/semis. She was really diplomatic about it and left it up to me to decide which was cool. Still absolutely frazzled over here as baby doesn't nap, so no way for me to get some kip.

EEC- I second a chat with the GP. Even just airing your feelings helps..I'm going through the same thing right now. Big hugs to you xx

Queue UBER MIL MOAN ALERT:

So today, DH out of complete desperation, phoned his dad to come round today and watch the baby for a couple of hours while I slept (I was very sick this morning) He phoned and explained to his mum that it would be ok for her to come along only if BOTH of them were present as she cannot walk or stand without crutches. She gets off the phone.."fine fine of course". DH leaves for work, both IL's show up..FIL leaves?! He's the only one that can walk and carry the baby..but he has flat out refused to babysit in the past, so was surprised when DH went off to work and said it would all be fine. So I am left with the MIL who sits on my futon as I make her tea. I am now trying very hard to be polite, looking after baby and MIL as she is disabled and she's telling me to go on and get some kip while she looks after the baby? Now, I appreciate what she does for us but that was a mean trick and DH and I are really really not happy at all. I was so mad that I had to phone DH to leave work and ask his mum to leave as I took the baby out for a walk (still sick and it was raining) I was fighting back sick and tears when they left and I knew what she had done and couldn't even look her in the eye. She had the nerve to say "anytime you need help again..just ring" WTF?

Any ideas how to deal with this without hurting feelings?