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sweetkitty · 04/11/2008 11:16

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thepuddingchef · 08/01/2009 17:47

oh mn tends to be a bit at some parenting techniques. I do what I do, i'm quite relaxed most of the time, but as libra quite rightly said you don't have to agree! It was prob gf who said feeding to sleep was a no no.....but hey ho...glad it works for you too poledra.
these threads are quite nice most of the time, i've been on mn a few years, don't post an awful lot, but have been shocked at how some threads disintergrate into a right old bitchfest so quickly.....i won't be a part of that, even if I do agree sometimes
mn is a lovely place most of the time with some good advice, which if I get time later will hopefully be asking for...

Isaidno · 08/01/2009 19:27

I don't get involved in the bitchy side of MN either; mostly stick to this thread. I do voice my opinions if a thread is asking for them, but would never say someone was wrong for the way they choose to raise their children.

Re blw - the site puddingchef linked to is very good - I read that alot before I started. M2L - as to what to give, then as far as poss what you are eating. Not anything salty is the main rule. You want baby to be eating the same as the whole family.
eg. Today Poppy had a finger of toast for brekkie (unsalted butter), lunch was some sliced apple and half a mini pitta bread with a scrape of houmous, tea was some steamed courgette, carrots and a piece of grilled chicken (her 1st taste of meat.) Have to add that hardly any of this got to her tummy - just chewed and waved about, and dribbled on. I am hoping month 2 will see some progress in that dept.
M2L - if I remember you are Asian? So you must eat plenty of veggie dishes, breads (Poppy loved nan bread!) etc? To start with you only need give a few pieces to play with. The book says breastfed blw babies tend to like quite strong tastes, esp if the mother eats things like garlic, curry etc normally. But you could just start on steamed veggies, just make them stick shaped so she can hold them. Poppy still hasn't got a great grasp and loses alot of the food through her slippery hands!

On the subject of sleep she had a 2 and a half hour nap today!!! Are you all ?!!

Libralovesbiscuits1975 · 08/01/2009 19:53

TJuice - not going back until Feb but yes I am very lucky that I have strong family support from both sides (not about actually going back, that is being frowned apon, but for looking after A)

Here is another vote for home appliances, we spend so much time in our homes we might as well make them nice!

I've tried to feed to asleep during the day but as soon as I put him in his cot his eyes ping open and the wails start. Some sort of baby radar. The only thing that really does it is being in the car or the pram. Tomorrow morning I am going to try Cass recommendation and put him outside in the pram! However I had to make up a routine for when he goes to nursery so I'm hoping to start implementing that myself next week and with a bit more structure maybe he will nap better.

Here's another vote for the BLW site linked to, tis very good.

Libras review of the day.
These [http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tommee-Tippee-Magic-Mat-Blue/dp/B000HZ80IM]]
are rubbish. A 6 month old can (and has) broken the suction with one tug.

I have wine, a quiet house and a laptop playing Magic FM with mumsnet sighs with contentment

MinnieMummy · 08/01/2009 19:56

I don't think there's anything wrong with feeding to sleep as long as it's not the only way to get the baby to sleep, and even then it's not wrong it just means you're going to have to find another way at some stage IME - DS only fed to sleep and it became a bit of a problem when we wanted to go out or leave him with grandparents, etc. But he got through it, now he goes down fine no problem. P can go down just being left (not always mind you) but that's not through anything we've consciously done, she's just a different baby.

I think the only 'rule' is your baby your way - everything else is just opinion and advice for you to take on board, or not!

pigleychez · 08/01/2009 20:22

As we are on advice and opinions I want to ask if anyone has any experience of Hungry baby milk.

I am think of giving Abigail a bottle of Hungry baby milk before bed in the aim of filling her up abit before bed, helping her to go longer than 2.5/3 hours before waking for a feed again.
When she does wake its just few a few ozs.
What do you think... worth a shot?

Agree that some threads- especially to do with weaning and feeding can get quite bitchy at times! I just avoid them but sometimes feel abit sad for the OP when all they wanted was some advise.. not a flaming!

Re BLW- I cant wait to start it with Abigail and see her chomping on all sorts of food

Puddingchef- I agree about the sleep association with toys ect. Abigail has associated sleep with hugging a muslin cloth (her own choice) She snuggles up to it & rubs it round her face before dropping off.
For example, when at Babyclub (noisy room full of babies playing, crying and mothers chatting) Abigail will lay on the playmat, snuggle her muslin and with a little pat will go off to sleep - Its great!

cass66 · 08/01/2009 20:28

muslins are a great comforters, mostly because you will have LOADS of them, so if one gets dirty or lost, you just replace it. My girls both had them as sleep comforters. Will start giving Ed one soon.

pigleychez · 08/01/2009 20:38

Cass- Totally agree- We have 100's of muslins so no sneeking it off her at night to wash or worry about her losing her comforter! What a good choice Abigail!!

Isaidno · 08/01/2009 21:09

pigley - why don't you buy a carton of hungry baby milk and try it? Then if it makes no difference or Abigail doesn't like it you won't have a whole tin go to waste?

pigleychez · 08/01/2009 21:14

Isaidno-
That was the plan. Doing the weekly shop tomorow so gonna buy 3 cartons and so we can try fri,sat,sun night to see if it makes any difference.
The cartons are great.. I always have one in my bag in case of an emergency- car breaks down or something..Or I forget to bring her bottle out to baby club with us like I did on tuesday!

Libralovesbiscuits1975 · 08/01/2009 21:50

Pigley - I think it's worth a shot, but apparently evidence shows that formula will not make a baby go any longer in the night. I have to confess we started to give A hungry baby formula for his last feed in the vain hope he would sleep longer. He didn't. Some nights we FF, some nights we BF and there doesn't seem to be any difference in waking times. sorry to be a downer. HOWEVER. Saying all that, every single baby is different so you might as well give it a shot (another however however I have heard hungry baby can cause constpation - didn't happen in our case tho).

sweetkitty · 08/01/2009 22:13

Evening all I have been reading all day not had time to post though, Bethany slept today a whole hour after her 2pm feed. I have been trying to get into more of a routine with feeds now we have started weaning too, it's a case of trying to fit everything in and around the other two as well. However, she is still awake now double currently rolling about the floor eating a large caterpillar, perfectly happy though.

On this great weaning debate, I think at the end of the day it doesn't matter how you do it BLWing, purees etc they all get there in the end and as long as they aren't living on yoghurts at age 2 and are eating a variety of healthy foods thats all that matters. I have to admit B has been getting mostly purees just now and she is loving them, I am also giving her toast spread with puree, so apple and pear today, thats a good one, get a bit of bread enders work well as they are chunkier, toast it and spread it with puree messy but great fun. We will probably gravitate over to more BLWing in the coming weeks, I don't get this got to be one or the other why can't you combine? B loves chomping on banana I have to hold it in front of her and she moves her head to chomp it with her new teeth very cute.

As for feeding to sleep, like poledra all mine have gone to sleep that way, my first was a brilliant sleeper, second horrendous. I think it must be a lovely way to fall asleep think of it from a babies point of view fall asleep curled up next to Mum, warm boob to suckle on little bit of creamy milk or alone in your own cot, they aren't daft these babies.

People get so het up about MN I remember having a right old rant about my Mum and getting told well at least your isn't dead, mine died when I was 10 that taught me!

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sweetkitty · 08/01/2009 22:15

Need a new thread soon I'm not doing the title this time after last time when I got told it was practically only my baby that was rolling whoops something witty about food probably.

I hope this thread keeps going as I love you all on here, DD2's one kind of fizzled out which was really sad and DD1's one too very quickly.

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sweetkitty · 08/01/2009 22:16

Oh and another thing (told you I can talk for Britain)

I hope Disney and Sam are doing OK was just thinking of them both x

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JODIEhadtoomanymincepies · 08/01/2009 23:04

Yes SK I've been thinking alot about them too. I've noticed she's not been on Facebook much either...

The last 2 days I've been giving Sam Baby Rice with Full fat milk for breakfast and that seems to be filling him up abit more, He won't let me feed it to him, but will quite happily suck on the spoon, same goes for the Apple and Pear Puree I gave him after his tea!! I'm trying to mix it all up with BLW and Pureeing too, I suppose it's because I'm more comfortable with the pureeing, but love the fact he can also feed himself, very convenient! The last 2 days he's actually dropped a milk feed from 6 to 5 bottles. We'll see how that goes...

Pigley A is FF anyway isn't she? I think Hungry Baby milk will be OK for her, but I dodn't see a difference with Sam on just one feed, he slept better once all his feeds were HB, I weaned him onto them slowly, 3 days 1 feed, 3 days 2 feeds etc.

Right off to bed, DH and I have been playing Wii Sport all night and I have 'Wii Elbow' if there is such a thing!

JODIEhadtoomanymincepies · 08/01/2009 23:06

Oh and DS1 has a Muslin he sleeps with too, I can't remember how and why he started with it, not my choice, must have been him, but he still has it now (2.4) And I agree, it's very good for chopping and changing, no running round the shops for a dog earred green rabbit when yours goes missing!

RiaParkinson · 08/01/2009 23:13

tjuice have never brushed manically and none of mine have a filling yet!

sorry folks we are doing bit of both weaning

n has gone great - loves all veg esp sweet potato

he is like a little lizard!

ponto · 08/01/2009 23:20

Pigleychez I am very that you have a baby who will fall asleep on her own in a busy room, Bryony has never fallen asleep on her playmat, she always needs some encouragement to go to sleep (putting in pram or cot, being held or patted). Having said that, she now knows that bath, feed, bed means it's time to go to sleep and can be put down in her cot quite happily, apparently wide awake. So, having followed GF's advice and avoided any 'negative sleep associations', why oh why won't she sleep through the night???

She had her first taste of pureed tomato today and disliked it so much that she flung herself back in her Bumbo and knocked the back of her head against the wall! Don't blame her actually, I'm not a fan of cooked tomato, I only gave her it because I had some tomatoes that needed using and I'm not in a salad mood on these cold days. Peace was restored with some apple and pear puree.

Health visitor came to weigh her today because she'd dropped from the 99th centile at birth to the 25th last month, but she had gone up to nearly the 50th in the last 4 weeks, now 15lb 3oz. I wasn't really worried as she is so plump and dimply, but had just wanted to check that she wasn't falling off the bottom of the chart. I hate going to baby clinic (last time I went dd2 burnt her leg on a hot radiator pipe!) so she probably won't be weighed again until her 18 month check.

Libralovesbiscuits1975 · 09/01/2009 09:28

Ponto A is the same, put him down in his cot at 7pm and he is out like a light. Try that during daytime hours and WW3 breaks out.

SK - I do get a bit at some of the threads where as you say someone complains about something and someone else out-complains them. As nice as it is to sometimes get perspective that doesn't invalidate the original posters feelings.

Disney thinking of you and Sam xx

JODIEhadtoomanymincepies · 09/01/2009 10:18

Sam's the same at night libra and Ponto Has a feed about 20 past - 1/2 past 6, pop him in his cot and he drops off himself, but day time naps completely elude him, unless he is in buggy or car.. Yesterday went to the shops at 11 and he didn't wake up until 2.30!!! I;m just counting my blessings where I find them though TBH, but it does make getting into a rountine difficult!

MinnieMummy · 09/01/2009 14:27

The out-complaining thing is rubbish, there's always going to be someone worse off than you but that doesn't mean you aren't entitled to your feelings. Obviously sometimes a bit of perspective helps, but jeez, we're only human !!
Disney updated her status on Wednesday (I feel like a spy!) so I guess that means all is ok (says 'counting down the days til Florida' or similar), I'm sure we'll see her again soon... come back we miss you!

After 2 lovely jab-induced wake-free nights, we were back to the 3/4 times last night. Only fed once but P has this habit of burrowing her head into my armpit (nice) and then going off at an angle with her body, kind of like I'm a magnet and she's an iron filing... lovely that she wants to be so close but it doesn't leave me with much room!

DH skidded off the road this morning and into some barbed wire fencing, all a bit scary but he's fine which is the main thing. We're waiting to hear on the status of the car.. means a day off work but all the housework for him!

Poledra · 09/01/2009 15:11

Minniemummy, I do the out-complaining thing with DH , though it's usually more competitve-tiredness ('I'm more tired than you because.....'). It's not particularly effective or helpful in that situation either .

bebejones · 09/01/2009 16:16

Hello all! Sorry to have been AWOL for so long, I'm afraid I haven't had a chance to catch up!

I went into hospital on new years eve, and made a fuss so they didnt make me stay in but was backwards & forwards for 5 days having loads of tests! Had an MRI which showed swellings on my spine and brain. I has a horid lumbar puncture & 3 days of mega dose IV steroids. I have been diagnosed with MS & feel a bit thrown by it all. Doctors are hopeful that I will get feeling back in about 6-8weeks. Coz I am young (26) they are optomistic that I may never have another attack...but if i do i know what to look out for & they can treat it sooner!

P has been a little trooper & has been passed around like a parcel. Tried her with some baby rice again today...not a fan AT ALL!!! She was weighed just after xmas and was 14lbs 5oz and right on her growth line but very long apparently!! Hope u all r ok, will try and catch up over weekend!

Oh and Happy new year!!

sweetkitty · 09/01/2009 16:52

bebejones - aww poor you waht a a time you have had but glad you seem to be on the mend finally. I'm glad you have a diagnosis though and can work on getting better, is your DH a bit more sympathetic because I remember you complaining he wasn't and feeling like you were getting fobbed off by everyone. Not surprised P doesn't like the baby rice it's not nice stuff we bypassed it this time and went straight onto some nice veg.

minniemummy - glad your DH is alright

Jodie - I am quite happy interchanging both BLWing and pureeing although have been told I cannot say I am BLWing as she sometimes has puree by MN purists I also think the spoon is useful fo really runny things and it's more them sucking food off it than you actually feeding them. I think my opinion has come from my Mum and her friends they think you must try and shovel as much food as you can down babies throats, I hate watching them feed young babies it is like force feeding, same when they are bottle feeding must squeeze that last oz down. I think even with purees these days it more baby led, B certainly brings her head towards the spoon and sucks at it rather than me giving her it IYSWIM?? (O'm waffling again )

I am going to get B properly weighed next week, not because I am worried about her at all but I do all of their height and weights every 6 months (DD1 and DD2's birthday as they are almost 6 months apart so I remember) it's great to see how they have grown in 6 months, last time DD1 had shot up 5cms this time I think will be the same think it's all in her legs though!

Carrot and parsnips for dinner with some carrot sticks to play with too

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TINSELJuice · 09/01/2009 16:56

bebe - sorry to hear about your diagnosis and your rough time recently. fantastic that your doctors are positive about it all and you sound good too. one of my clients markets an ms treatment so i have done a bit of research and interviewing on it.
hope you get help with P in the meantime . . .she sounds like a little star.

Isaidno · 09/01/2009 21:42

bebe - glad to hear from you - we were worried. H ope you can get appropriate treatment now you have a diagnosis, and also appropriate sympathy from your dh!

Poppy is developing a rash on her chin as a result of the teething dribble. Anyone got any tips? I put a glob of sudocrem on when she went to bed.
Got her weighed yesterday; she is 15 lb 4 oz at 29 weeks, still following the 9th centile. HV asked if I was weaning, I said yes, just omitted to tell her it was blw and precious little food had actually made it to the tummy!