July 2008 - Rolling, rolling, rolling, our babies just keep on rolling!

[sweetkitty]

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bebe - when he resurfaces give him the flash spray and some bleach.

Bebe I hope he was suitably chatened when he finally got up. That is not on, especially when you are having the problems with your arm.

ILs have arrived to stay, and we're having a great time so far. CHildren are currently at the nice level of excitement rather than screaming psychos. The only fly in the ointment is the Incident today......

Went out for a pub lunch with ILs and some friends of ours. Following on from a delicious meal, DH, FIL and the other dad took the 4 mobile children out to run around in the garden. 15 minutes later, one of the cildren comes in to tell me, MIL and the mother of the other family that we need to go. Get outside and EVERY child and all the men have got dog shit on their clothes and/or shoes . I hate people who do not clean up after their animals. Unfortunately, there were a lot of fallen leaves in the pub garden so the children were jumping and running through them and It was hidden under them. So ended up coming home to put both the DDs' coats, DH's jeans and the DDs' tights into the wash (I also put in their dresses just incase) and scrub all the shoes - lovely.

I've just been reading some of the threads about the 'splinter group' from MN. Makes me feel quite sad - not for me (I am not around enough to be included), but that some posters I like and respect feel rejected by the whole thing (e.g. Custardo). Bizarre behaviour - makes me quite glad that I'll have enough going on in RL for the next few weeks to keep me off other threads apart from this one.

Hope it's all quiet in here because you are all having a great time in RL with your families. Love to all, and especially Sam

Morning,

poledra shocking about the dog poo, I hate inconsiderate dog owners too, this week I've had it on mine and DS1's shoes and all over the pushchair wheels eeuugh, also about the 'splinter group' I think it's sad too, esp that some people are left out and it's 'invitation only' but I haven't posted much on anything other than here recently as there are some horrible people around, you only have to say 'DH is being a PITA' and someone says 'leave him' there is also alot of 'get over yourself' going on. It's really sad as I was really getting the hang of MN and asking and giving advice but it started tuning nasty, so I stopped. (I've even seen threads where someone has asked a silly question like - 'what breadmaker shall I get' (for example) and all of a sudden someone will come on and [yawn] and tell the poor OP to search through the archives as it's 'been done' a million times. I;m too frightened to ask anything now. I'd rather stay here in this Safe Haven!!!!! Rant over....

Bebe Has DH made it up to you yet??????? I really hope so.

SK How you feeling today? Any better??? (sorry if I'm prying and you can tell me to butt out, but is it your DH's job thats the worry? He's in banking isn't he?)

3 more sleeps!!!!!! (do you think it will be too much to ask for them to be uninterrupted????)

Party was great, loads of people came and DS1 was in his element, loads of attention (and loads of chocolate! )

hi ladies

can you believe that i have been at my parents house since thursday and i haven't been out at all???!!! not even into the garden . . .i think i am getting agrophobic . . .

well, we all got the sniffles and elodie is not feeling well at all today. not sure what is wrong really but she is pooing a lot and really whiney which is unlike her. can babies get that novo virus thing???

poledra - horrendous dog poo experience!! i rolled into some in my pram with big monster truck inflatable tires the other day. so annoying! especially as i have to leave my pram in the inside hallway.

well, i better get myself together and get to TK Maxx for my last minute present swoop. classy bird, me.

Kitty I think N is 23 weeks today and last week we started him on some food

WELL - all he seems to want is bf and frankly i am exhausted

he has been RUBBISH with it

absolutley useless

nothing stays in his mouth apart from bits of bread crust when we do a bit of blw - however i have given up on that due to choking ll the time

so far we have achieved NOTHING and i am still bf ing at full pelt

i was hoping he would be eating by xmas but no to be so....

i honestly feel we have left it too late - the window of opportunity has been missed. he has seemed peckish for weeks but now has built supply up again through constant feeding and food is too difficult to bother wtih

sorry cant read all posts as 10,000 children here and dp at work......

hope all well! (NAO btw!)

Hello all, can I make a once-and-for-all general apology about not being on here very often, I do think about you all (especially those of you on FB when I see you on the news feed) so it's not that I don't care, right now it's because I am too ill!!

Can I have my rant too? I was going to start a separate thread on this, but related to what you are all saying, I was worried that if I did, and even if I made it clear that it's just to rant, someone would come on and post 'ffs, get a life, there's people out there with real problems you know'. (Disclaimer: I do know that!)

So:

1. I have my second (horrendous) cold of the last two weeks, first one never really cleared up because
2. P has stopped sleeping through the night for the last 3 weeks, she wakes up at about 1am and 4am, mostly just to fart a lot and then fuss about until you rub her to sleep meaning
3. I am absolutely bloomin knackered and also
4. have a mouth ulcer
5. period came back three days ago surprisingly heavy and due to all of the above I'm not managing it terribly well. I've started using a mooncup for the first time, blimey it's big!!
6. upset stomach due to period/cold/both, nice
7. DH went into the spare room at P's 4am grumble last night because 'I can't do my job without a proper night's sleep'. But I have to do my 'job' (i.e. care for two children) while ill and on a poor night's sleep.

That's it. Otherwise all is well and I am incredibly lucky to have such gorgeous children I know.

at bad dog owners too - not that I'm excusing it in the road but at least there you can see it, in a pub garden is just shocking.

Bebe hope you have been clattering incredibly noisily around your husband. Perhaps bring the crying baby as close and as often as you dare?! Although I suppose he's probably over it by now...

A very merry Christmas one and all, hope you have a lovely time and hopefully a bit of a break with all the families.

Oh, and I can't take anything stronger than paracetemol for the cold because of BFing, my hair is ridiculously thin and fallen out round my temples, and I didn't get an invite to my work xmas lunch until 90 minutes before hand, so couldn't go.

Thank you. Feel much better now!!

Poor you Frosty

frosty, you can take ibuprofen, works well for the shivers temps and aches..

Oh Frosty, hope you feel better soon.
x

Evening all thanks for all your concerns although DP's job is a worry it's not that immediate IYSWIM we will know March/April. I am feeling very very low right now probably a mixture of PND/SAD/general depression and things with DP and I could be better.

Still almost Christmas, is everyone all set? I am getting very excited cannot wait to see the DDs open their presents.

Well B had her first taste of food today a bit of crust, I gave her it to gum on and then started to break tiny bits off for her, her first taste her face was a picture then by about the third or fourth bit she was opening her mouth biting my hand off. I'm going to take it really slow to start just give her a little taste of whatever I am eating thats suitable for her.

bebe - your poor thing I hope DH is in the dog house and has made amends. You sound so down maybe some time to yourself and let him hold the fort with P for a while.

poledra - yuck on the dog poo it is utterly vile isn't it? I also feel sad about teh splinter group but think it's a bit inevitable with a group the size of MN that cliques are going to evolve, but it's always nice on this thread

Tjuice - hibernating sounds just fine right now, the weather is awful, everywhere you got people are jossling and fighting over brussel sprouts and turkey, it's madness out there. B also has the snots and is struggling to feed, I think I have some baby Olbas Oil somewhere will check it's in date and stick some on a hankie near here tonight.

Otter - I feel a wee bit the same knackered from the constant feeding, she fed 4 times in the night last night as well, some nights I feel my boobs are so empty but I suppose it's her ramping up my supply like N is. Just keep trying with different foods he will get the hang of it. I don't know how you do it it's bloody constant isn't it? DP was here today and we wanted to go out but first he had to phone in work, then I had to shower and get ready, then I had to do the older ones hair, then sit and feed B, it just seems to be me me me IYSWIM, sorry rant over.

Frostymin - aww you poor thing you rant away don't be seems like you are having a hard time of it, these colds are hard to shift, you sound very run down, hope you get some me time over Christmas (hard I know) do you know what I sneaked a few Lemsips the other week, OK you aren't supposed to but chances are everything will be fine with the BFing and it made me feel a whole lot better.

Right best be off hello to everyone else x

frosty poor you when things happen boy dont they all happen at once then we are so overwhelmed .............me i have a good ol cry and sniff then think hey is it really that bad? i think for you hun is to be kind to yourself take time out and chill
we have giant duvet days here me and all the boys
well of to butlins tomorrow and im looking forward to it to see the panto and fireworks and taking boys to see santa
i have done a different thing this year if you remember earlier on we were talking about who were the make up mummies
i was never a female in that sense no dresses same ponytail ect.... well....
i bought a dress in secret and matching sexy underwear had my hair done,put make up on heels ect
was my dh amazed i mean it he was totally stunned im wearing it out in 2 nights time
i think i just needed a new me even for a day
nao about the feeding and choking we use mesh feeders there great i think,although hes not eating much right now but im hoping it will pick up
hes also feeling better i think hes more alert and smiley and im so proud as (big drum roll please)
he has a tooth

disney - congrats to Sam on his tooth and you sound a bit more cheery tonight, well done on getting glammed up hope all of you have a fab time at Butlins

sorry sk x posts
i hope you are feeling better soon this time of the year is a great strain on us moms isnt it
ive been a bit stressed lately but sitting down and thinking about it ive just been trying to make things to perfect IYKWIM
you have to so many things we actually forget about the most important person YOU
us moms are the main cog in the wheel all year round im taking my laptop with me so can keep up to date ive also got new pics of samuel on there if anyone would like to have a look

disney - have a fab time at Butlins - we love it there! I'm sure you look like a really yummy mummy in your frock! It's nice to have a change; wearing jeans and t shirt everyday is so boring. Dressing up always makes me happy! Well done Sam with a tooth - none here yet.

SK - know what you mean about you always seem to be trying to do something. DH winds me up by sitting in the armchair while I get the kids lunch, change Poppy's nappy, do the ironing, pick up toys... etc. If I ask him to do stuff I get accused of nagging, if I don't he doesn't do anything off his own back. So I choose nagging!

Poppy is feeding alot too atm. Have started the blw but very slowly.

Got to get the Turkey today, and locate some sprouts. Then tomorrow I'm cooking the ham in coca cola and making a yule log.

as for the splinter group thing; well i haven't paid any attention to it. If loads of people want to bugger off and chat amongst themselves then let them. I hate all the nastiness involved.

Thank you all for your kind thoughts, I'm feeling a lot better today, think it 'broke' overnight so I'm 'only' chesty and bunged up now, but at least able to function like a vaguely normal human once again, hurrah!

Sounds like everyone is having a bit of a time of it, sometimes I secretly suspect Christmas was only invented to take our minds off the fact that this time of year is otherwise bloomin grim .

Yey for teeth and for feeding! I'm not looking forward to teething as DS was an absolute mare with it.

Here we have tentatively started to give P food, baby porridge 3 nights in a row now and it's helping with the sleeping (that and having her lying right next to me!). She absolutely loves it, would get my hand in there too if she could. She's almost 5mths now, so for the BLWs out there, is it possible to do a kind of combo? ie mostly BF until 6mths but topping up with porridge/whatever and then attempting more of a 'typical' BLW approach from 6mths??

Yey for feeling sexy too. Can't remember the last time that happened here!!

frosty - you can mix blw and spoon feeding if you like! Who says you can't?! Blw is from 6 mths because before then the baby doesn't have the skills to pick up the food and get it to his mouth (well some do but they certainly can't get it to the back of the mouth to swallow)
As your baby gets older perhaps you can begin to blw more and more.

Thanks everyone DP is really good around the house like this morning he has done the lounge and kitchen before I got up, OK he hasn't done what I would do but still. I think it's just theres a lot of things he cannot do like the girls hair and of course feeding B.

Frosty - glad you are feeling a bit better, on the feeding front I know there are BLW purists on here (I once got told because I gave DD2 yoghurt on a spoon I wasn't BLWing) theres no reason you cannot mix it, you just do whats right for you, my big two were probably about 90% BLWed but I still gave yoghurt and cereal on a spoon it's just easier. We are talking about giving 5-6 month olds a wee bit of food not 8 week olds.

With DD2 she loved her food from the off we started about 25 weeks with her but after about 2 weeks she got terribly constipated, I phoned HV and she said oh just give orange juice which I did then after about 8 days of no poos I phoned again and got told off for leaving it so long and had to go to the GP for suppositories, it was not nice what followed I can tell you.

Ny big two have found their stockings and are now "playing" Santa Claus and are completely hyper.

Frosty, I had never heard the term BLW before I came onto MN, but I think I did a mixture of the approaches without knowing what they were called. I would give my baby some puree (of whatever type) with a spoon, then give them something to play with and chew on (like toast) while I ate my meal. The little one was at the table with the rest of the family all the time. Seems to have worked well for me, as both DDs are good eaters (though DD2 will not knowingly eat a vegetable). Gald you're feeling better too.

Disney have a lovely time at Butlins. Well done on the tooth - O is grizzling and dribbling away here, but nothing to be seen yet. Should be soon, if she's anything like her sisters.

Kitty, I'm pleased your DP has pulled his finger out. My DH has been doing well, except he went out yesterday and bought the girls 'presents from Daddy', as he wants them to have something from him. I have done all the other shopping and it's wrapped and tagged from Santa, but as far as the DDs are concerned, they will get nothing from Mummy. Thanks a lot, DH! However, I am not getting them anything else as they already have too much.

Love to everyone else, and I better get off to Tesco's

I suppose I am rather assuming that there are indeed 'rules' about BLW and definitely that if I post something on MN at least one purist will flame me, as seems to be the norm these days! So I think I will continue as we are, just perhaps increasing the amounts to keep her asleep.
Right I'm off to a) chase down my mum's xmas present, which was apparently delivered and signed for yesterday but not by me, so I'm going to get to know the neighbours better! b) wrap presents and c) bake some nigella biscuits for the childminder's xmas party this avo. Hopefully that will get me a bit more in the spirit!

I'm glad to hear others are feeling glum (IYKWIM). I feel 2 days before xmas I should be excited but I'm not. we're all going to the panto this afternoon and I'm not really looking forward to it. I am now refusing to go into the girls bedroom as it is so messy, I have just spent an hour clearing the piles of 'sorting out' in my room. I can't attack Ed's room yet. I'm hiding here on the internet to avoid looking around my untidy house. it's messing with my head!! Husband suggested we get a cleaner - I said it's not a cleaner we need it's a tidier and de-clutterer!

But I have to pack to go away tomorrow, and fit everything in the car. AAaarrrgghhh.

If I don't post again, HAPPY CHRISTMAS GIRLS!! Cass.

DH had a go at me for making him feel bad about 'letting me down' saying he deserved a night off!!!!! What about my night off?! MEN!!

Got xray today, am petrified that they might make me take bra off as cant get it back on by myself! Only trousers I am ok to get on and off alone are trackuit ones, but cant wear them out...am in my 'big' jeans which fall down and cant pull them up properely so keep having a bit of mummy tummy overhang, not good!!!

P is being an angel in her own room, who knows might even get relation before 2009....if I can forgive him!!!!!!

What's this about a splinter group? I never look anywher else on MN but here...to safe and secure and am too scared to post elsewhere even though technically P is an August baby!

Forgot to say have now lost feeling on right hand side of face and mouth making talking and eating a real effort!!!! It's so frustrating!

bebe, if you've lost feeling in your face, it's not coming from your neck (cervicalgia).

Go back to your doctors or ring them and explain what has happened. Did you say you had been referred to a neurologist??? If not you should be. and maybe sooner rather than later.

Don't want to worry you, but if it's affecting your face it's not a trapped nerve in your neck.

The Panto was fab, I relaxed, even Ed enjoyed most of it!! Quite a scary giant though, some screaming kids in the audience!! (it was Jack and the Beanstalk!). now drinking cheap xmas fizzy and pizza in the oven.

Cheers!!!

Sounds bad bebejones; please let us know how you got on at the hospital.

Today my mil asked if she and fil could stay over boxing day night. I had to say yes. So that means me on the floor and dh on the sofa because they're too old and unhealthy to sleep on an airbed (they offered but it's really not feasible,)