July 2008 - Rolling, rolling, rolling, our babies just keep on rolling!

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Bad night here too, Bethany down at 8 as usual up at 12.30am and 5 but at 5 she wanted to play and was "talking" and smiling at me. DD2 was a nightmare too I think she must have been up about 5 times finally up at 6.50am. Poor DP he gets up at 6am and gets up for the big two. It drives you mad as they just wake up shout Mummy or cry but you have to get up and settle them. Maybe one day we will have 3 children that sleep all night (live in hope emoticon)

bebe - I don't have a clue about cots etc as mine have always slept with me until 12 months, then into their own cot beside me for about a month before the cot goes into their own room. I think like everything else in parenting you just have to decide whats right for you.

Poledra - sorry about your bad night too

Jodie - I am dreading Bethany starting to crawl too

gilly - sorry I really am trying to help you, why do you think he's not taking enough from the boob but enough from the bottle? Remember a baby can get a lot more milk out quicker than any breastpump can. What happens if you just give him the breast? YOu will probably have a rough first night but if he feeds from the boob frequently he will stimulate them to produce more milk for the following night and he will stimulate them more than the pump. I think you are in a vicious circle as the more you use the pump the more he is getting lazy with taking milk from the breast, am I making any sense? You can produce more than enough milk for him you just have to put the orders in so to speak. Maybe post a question on the BFing topic and the lovely tiktok might be able to help, she was a star when I was BFing DD1.

ponto - I'm like you path of least resistance

Oh I "spoke" to Kaz on FB last night, she and Kezzy are doing fine, Kezzy is loving banana, she cannot get on much as she doesn't have her own PC right now I told her we all missed her.

bebe - R has been in his own room from 10 weeks. Like libra he is an incredibly noisy sleeper and I am such a light sleeper that I was getting no sleep at all - in the end it seemed better for all of us to move him. He is just accross the corridor and I still wake up to every gurgle and cry - just not to all the snuffling. You have to do what is right for you I think.

libra - I hope you had fun painting the town red!

Poledra - What a night. R woke 3 times last night too but at least I had no dirty nappies!

sk- thanks for the Kaz update - so good to know that they are doing well.

Think we may give it a go tonight, also a bit worried bout her getting cold without the added body heat of being in our room (very cold house), but I think I am just being paranoid and trying to cling on to her being with me. I get anxious even pitting her upstairs for a nap! Got a plug in nightlight in her room but it really doesn't seem bright enough, may have to invest in something else for the nursery!

Oops putting not pitting!

Bebe - R sleeps completely in the dark and seems to sleep better that way - when I feed him I use the light from the landing which is perfectly adequate when the door is ajar. Our house is also very cold and sometimes I do worry as he often has really cold hands when I go in, but his core body temp is always OK. He sleeps in a vest , baby grow, sleeping bag and 2 blankets. When it gets really cold I think I may get a plug in radiator for his room. Good luck bebe. Hope all goes well tonight. The first night is always the hardest - you will probably lie awake worrying but he will be fine!

Bebe - Poppy has been in her room since about 18 weeks because she was outgrowing the basket. Both she and I have been sleeping better as a result. It is dark in her room; I have good night vision and just get her in the dark and bring her to my bed when she wakes for feeding (usually anytime after 4;30am so she co sleeps with me then til morning.) She wears a vest, babygro and sleeping bag, with a cotton blanket over her legs which I put on when I go up to bed. Just put the baby monitor on and you will hear P when she needs you.

Gilly - I have to agree with SK; the more you try to express so N can have the bottle the lazier you are letting him be! Sorry to sound harsh but I think you have to decide to make him try harder. Then he will feed more, stimulate your milk more etc etc. You will prob have a couple of difficult days but will be worth it. You are not having an easy time anyway so why not dump the bottle for the weekend and see how you go?

Poledra - Poppy is snot city too; don't you just love finishing a bf to find your boobs covered in spit and snot?

I am completely knackered, about to send the boys to bed, then sort out my Christmas shopping which I finished today - hoorah!!! DH goes back to work on Monday (for anyone interested he is still black and blue but the swelling has subsided!) which I am pleased about because he gets under my feet all day!

evening girls
sam still in my room next to me then in my bed half the night
hes got a lovely nursery and never sleeps in there
i look at him oooh maybe 10 to 20 times a night when hes asleep he wears a breathing monitor but im a panicky mom
good luck bebe with the new room oh and also to having a bit of private time eh !!!!

Bebe dd1 was in her own room at about 10 weeks!! - like you, in our old house the rooms were so close she may as well have been in with us, I could hear everything but all the fidgets and snuffles, it was nice and dark and a consistent temperature. Florence still nect to me and I'm sure we'd both sleep better if she wasn't! - but she's too small to go in with dd1 yet, and we haven't created our 3rd bedroom yet! [pjr's loft conversion vanishes into the distant future as the credit crunch bites...]

Had a bit of a crap day yesterday - my chronic pain has been getting steadily worse and I woke up unable to even lift Florence or walk properly. Dh stayed home and took me to the GP who was luckily v v good - prescribed lots of different things - painkillers, herbal stuff, oil baths - and also spoke to my HV who was lovely and will come and see me next week. I just feel like such a failure when I can't even look after my children cos I'm in so much pain, and I get really angry and frustrated and being horrid to people Feel especially bad re dd1

dd1 was so funny in her bath tonight - she always 'breastfeeds' her doll, and she was sitting in the bath squeezing her nipple hard saying 'I'm trying to get milk out for my baby' - and then she got the water-wheel toy which has suckers on it and held it on to her chest and turned the wheel - she was pretending to express milk...!

I made Florence a mini breastmilk ice lolly which she had in her highchair while we were eating dinner - she was a bit bemused but quite liked it! dh thinks I'm crackers...

hello all

i am ITCHING to wean ds
i am certain that he is ready as he is interested in food - big and HUNGRY

i am tired of feeding so much and he has started wakking for dream feed and generally waking earlier....

i a only holding out because its so non PC to wean about now...

please say you are all weaning so i can!

whoops it is me NAO

CCC - if you think your ds is ready then start! Don't feel pressured by the pc brigade. I'm waiting til 26 weeks to blw (3 weeks to go) but if I really thought Poppy was ready now I would start with a little puree. N is your 6th baby (is that right?) so I'm sure your mother's instinct must count for something!

PJR - you poor thing; what sort of pain is it? Have you suffered before? (sorry if you've already told us and I've forgotten) Sounds rotten but I'm your your dc still think you are the prefect mummy

Thanks isaidno -it's fibromyalgia which is basically random chronic pain mainly in my back but spreads all over my body, and it's very much linked to disturbed sleep for me!

I keep over-doing it physically, not feeling it at the time and then really suffering the next day.

Afternoon

Just finished the last of the green bean casserole from Thanksgiving dinner. mmmm.

A had his first taste of sweet potato and looved it. We gave him some banana and rice pudding and he wolfed it down and just about took my hand off. Just two tsps, so just to get him used to the taste and texture. 20.5 weeks and he's 19lbs and he's sitting up ok.

PJR - Sorry to hear about the FM. My MIL has it too and it can be really frustrating. Thinking of you.

Gilly - great news about going to Liverpool. I'm chomping the bit until we go to Texas. 2 weeks to go!

Hello,

Ive been debating about putting Abigail in her cot in her own room too in the hope of getting better nights

Im really getting worn out with all this night waking! She now seems tohave got into a pattern of waking every 3 hours regardless of what we try. Shes not even wanting that much when she feeds and often stays awake for a good 2 hours after waking!

Plus to top it of now has a cold so only slept for about 20mins at a time last night before waking herself snuffling and snorting. cue me with my arm out the bed rocking her moses basket for about 4hours last night! [yawn]

purplejenny- Hope things improve with your pains soon.
Loving your DD1 in the bath

mcchessers- Glad A enjoyed his first tastes

Really really lazy day here! Didnt get dressed til midday and then ate left over takeaway pizza from last night night. We had some friends round ( who i met via Netmums) with thier LO.

hi all had a manic day so just a quick one, was out until 6.30pm tonight so kind of throws you a bit all evening

It is so cold here today too -3C outside now

Hi All. Been manic.

Bebe, Logan has been in his own room since 14 weeks - keeping mine and his bedroom doors open means I can still see him and it means I can have the air conditioning colder in my room than in his.

CCC, if you think he's ready, go for it. You know what you're doing.

Just managed to get flights to come home for a week in December - wasn't planning to but just got too homesick , so it's a week of shopping and drinking for me and then back to Bahrain for Christmas.

Oh, and AF made her first appearance in a year. Here was me hoping to get away with it for another month or so. Never mind.

ttfn.

Hi All,

Had a quick read through:

TJUICE - am so glad that Elodie is well now - wee soul, it's horrible to watch someone you love suffer but it is amazing what surgeons can do these days as I am sure DISNEY will agree.

BEBE - Calvin has been in a different room for about a month now as I am such a light sleeper and he was snuffuffling and farting etc. Room is totally dark but nigh light form hall is enough if I need to get up to him - which I always do - dummy retrieval service

NAO AKA she of many names I started Calvin on solids on Friday. After having been sleeping through and quite contented he was awakening in the night ravenous - he has been on extra hungry milk since 2 weeks old and was taking 6-7 bottles of 9 ozs per 24hrs. he is such a huge boy though that he is definitley ready for food. I gave him 2 teaspoons of stewed pureed carrot and parsnip, yesterday he just got milk as we were out all day and today he got 1 teaspoon of carrot and 2 teaspoons of baby rice = much happier big boy He is 20 weeks on Tuesday.

I spent today wrapping up all the Xmas pressies. We're all done - just need food now.

Went to Glasgow yesterday for family day out. I have been salivating about ravioli in a butter and pine nut sauce, a glass of red and people watching in princes Square for 3 years. Got there - the tree was NAFF and they had changed the menu - no ravioli BOO!!! Decided against the red too as 2 children and wine in the afternoon don't really mix - snooze.

Still Dh ttreated me to some nice stuff - a funky pink leopard print bag, a few skirts and cardis and some undies. I've lost nearly a stone now but still 2 to go so don't want to buy too much just now.

GILLY - I know it is brilliant if you can bf and everyone has given you fantastic advice and support but I just want to say that if it is stressing you out that much and you are perpetually frustrated and knackered it isn't the end of the world if you need to just go with ff. You have done a fantastic job bf thus far, you have been suffering form PND and you appear to be tying yourself in knots about this - please give yourself a break. Stopping bf does not make you a bad Mummy - you need to look after yourself to look after your littly properly. You can only do the best you can at any given time and things happen so give yourself a break woman! HUGSXXXXX

PURPLEJENNY - have you tried homeopathy for your fibromyalgia or any other complementary treatments? Reflexology can be great as can gentle massage and homeopathy.

Anyway must go loads to do hope you are all well and cuddles to all the littlies.

With regards to TWINKLE - I did a search and she hadn't been on any threads since she last appeared on ours - I often think of her too and send a wee prayer up that all is well in TWINKLELAND. PEANUT is probably just too busy enjoying life. CILC hasn't been on for ages either.

That's what happens though - people get on with life and other things and lose touch and it ends up with a just a few dies harders on here

Nite all - sending all you babies sleep well vibes zzzzzzzz

Donut- about feeling homesick but im sure your'll enjoy your boozy week

Rumpel- Sorry your day didnt go as you wanted but it sounds you did ok out of DH anyway
Glad Calvin is enjoying his food too

Abigail has got a cold now so not a happy bunny. Shes all snotty and finds it tricky drinking as she cant breath through her nose very well so not taking much.
Shes very unsettled at night too and wakes herself up really easily. ie every 15/20 mins or so. I managed nearly 4 hours last night and spent the rest trying to rock her back off to sleep- [Yawn]
Shes gone off tonight with a dose of Calpol and coated in SnuffleBabe (baby vic rub) Poor little thing

I just sent twinkle a cat message to tell her to pay us a quick visit.

Poor Poppy has a terrible cold - lots of coughing and spluttering when she is trying to feed. She kept dozing off for most of the day and I only got a few little smiles instead of big grins. Hope she's a bit brighter tomorrow.

Rumpel - well done for losing a stone! Sorry to hear your perfect lunch didn't go quite to plan!

Evening all just trying to decide which combination of photos to get from the DD's proofs, got a gorgeous one of Bethany smiling in a basket.

We put our tree up today, fake the cats would eat a real one, it's a huge monster of a thing though and as I'm anal it's all coordinated took me ages. Bethany loves staring at the lights though, DP will put up some icicle lights outside next week and we will get a real tree for outside too.

Rumple - I agree re Princes Square tree, the same one as last year it's not even a tree just some modern balls with lights on them, I remember the days when they had a huge proper tree in there, the DDs can spend an hour running round it though

Donutmum - good for you coming home for a week although you will probably spend it shivering after the Bahrain heat. I've only had AF well if it was it it was a day and a half of light bleeding about 2 months ago, nothing since

gilly - how you doing now? I agree with Rumpel thats why I have been trying to rack what brain I have left thinking of ways to help as you seem so down and stressed. I think by using the bottle of EBM a lot he's starting to prefer it so isn't working as hard as he can when on the bresat so not getting as much milk as he should. I think you have to think which route you want to take and as Rumpel said FF does not make you a bad Mummy you have done fantastic so far adn remember the decision is yours alone. If you want to continue with EBFing then I recommend cutting back on expressing and just keep putting him on the breast direct if he is hungry enough he will feed and it will in turn boost your supply, or mixed feeding but beware it could really cause your supply to dwindle or complete FF. Now BFing I can give you advise on having fed 3 babies, sleep is another story altogether

Had a terrible day with B today she honestly slept for 10 minutes all day which was when she fell asleep on me feeding but when I moved her she woke up. She was cranky and moany all day but everytime she went in her cot she would get hysterical.

x post pigley - sorry Abigail's poorly too. I've been co sleeping for the last 2 nights - it's easier to settle her quickly with a little cuddle and shush when she wakes herself coughing.

x-posts sorry Poppy and Abigail have colds it's horrid isn't it, B still wakes in the morning with her gunky eye as we call it

gilly just thinking...i express a lot and dp has started getting quite cross with me as its so wearing and i think it causes me to feel low

agree with sweets that putting him to breast is more effective at raising supply

failing that if he is ff its not the end of the world

rumple - you are tempting me - might get some stuff for starting him off

last night watched tv late so gave dream feed at 1.30 am he still woke at 8 for feed so i think he is definitely hungrier

tjuice glad elodie is on the mend

pigley/isaidno poor poorly babs hope they get better soon

does anyone elses bab get a spot on their chin? N keeps getting one which is not nice and i dont know whether to leave it or squeeze it - think it could be from dribbling...

sending decongestant vibes to all the snuffly babies! Isaac was poorly last week with stinking cold and is just about better again - he completely lost his voice at one point - could just about manage a squeak!

Isaac had his first taste of food last night - not quite as I had planned it though - picture the scene, Isaac gurgling happily on the floor, dd (just 2) sat next to him eating her tea (fish, chips, mushy peas) dh and I on the sofa eating our tea and watching x-factor, I smiled down indulgently at my 2 beautiful babies, and spotted Isaac finishing off a whole forkful of mushy peas that his big sister had shovelled into his mouth!!!!

He'll be 18 weeks on Tuesday and I wasn't planning on giving him solids just yet, although he seemed to really enjoy the mushies - licked his lips and smiled at me!

DD was eating loads of different bits by now, so I may start giving him some fruit/veg to try, got to be more nutritious than the mushies anyway!

AIBU- to wean my 18 week old on mushy peas?
Can you imagine the responses you would get???