July 2008 - Rolling, rolling, rolling, our babies just keep on rolling!

[sweetkitty]

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Minkus- Bless DS1! Whilst putting on the plays at nursery I would find myself getting emotional watching them- and they werent even my own children.

Libralady- Agree with the others. All the mums they know are prob 17! so anyone older must be a grandma!

Bebe- I would look into some other type of theraphy for your arm. Need to do something if you are having trouble holding Phoebe.

Tjuice- pleased everything went ok for Elodie

Disney- Thats a lovely thing for your DS to say about Libraladys incident in MC D's.
Very true too... Its always the young mummies shouting and cussing at their kids!

EEC- Abigail isnt really rolling yet. She has rolled front to back a couple of times but thats it. Shes 18 weeks today.

Disney- Sam sounds like hes doing really really well! You must be so proud of him

Im sure Twinkle is very busy with the twins! Doesnt she have an older child or two as well? Must be manic!

Picked up Abigails Little Impressions handprint yesterday and its fab! Already on the wall
She has got sooo cheeky lately and that grin, well I think shes got us truely wrapped around her little finger!! Ive put a couple of pics on facebook of the infamous grin!
Having a lazy day today doing housework ect- all the exciting stuff!

Happy Thanksgiving to anyone celebrating!

Pigley very cute pic of Abigail in her winter outfit all smiley!!!!

MIL is coming to babysit so I can take stupid cat to vet about his leg!! Said to my mum hope it doesn't cost an arm and a leg...she said 'yeah your arm, his leg!' Oh how very witty!!!!

Why can I still not feel my arm, it's just SO annoying, will be 2 weeks of numbness at weekend and it is just not getting any better despite keeping it moving and warm!

P is still not rolling (technically an August baby shhhhhh don't tell anyone) so everyone has a couple of weeks on her. She hates being on her front so will probably hate it! She can sit unaided though (not for too long) as her head control has always been quite good. She loves standing up if you hold her and bounces up and down gurgling so I think it is time for a door bouncer!!! Fingers crossed Santa gets one!!

I feel really bad now putting the thread title as rolling, still most of them will be rolling before it finishes. Bethany has been rolling onto her front for a month now (wish I had written it down bad Mummy), she's so active but you can hardly change her nappy as she always wants to be on her front plus she gets bored and starts crying after a while oh and then she will roll right over and burst out crying. She's the opposite to loads on here hates being flat on her back. Given the choice she either wants to be held upright or standing with me holding her hands. I think it's because she is so nosy.

pigley - aww Abigail sounds so lovely

Re twinkle I'm sure the twins were number 4 and 5 for her so she will be very busy

disney - Sam sounds a star, I was looking at one of those mash feeders this morning, B is nowhere near solids yet. She likes to shout loud as well cue everyone turning around looking at you

gilly - how often are you offering him a boob? I tend to offer B one every 2 hours or so during the day if she's awake sometimes she will do the on and off thing sometimes she will settle down more. Not that it makes any difference to her sleep down at 8, up at 12 and 3 and 6 I think so the same as Nate thereabouts. I think you are doing fine as long as he's having laods of poos and pees and looks like he's gaining weight everything you and he are doing sounds normal to me.

Thanks SK, been trying to fed a little more today and bought Nate a nice thick grobag as he kicked off his covers last night. He has been pooing less and less and has dropped significantly on the weight chart but is still gaining. Really don't want to wean him yet but wonder if I should use a bit of my organic formula that he had in his first week. Doeas anyone know if I can mix it with BM?
Never have time to read through but caught TJ post re Elodie, so glad she's ok.

gilly - bf babies can go up to 2 weeks without a poo - my ds1 used to do a massive poo every 10 days! As long as Nate is peeing plenty he's ok.
As for mixing the formula and bm - I don't see why you couldn't, as long as the formula was made up correctly. Just be aware that adding formula when you are struggling with your supply will undermine your efforts to continue bf.

2 weeks without a poo? Blimey, I'm in pain after 24 hours! I see what you mean about the formula isaidno, I just think he might need a bit more milk at his 7pm feed and I don't seem to be able to express enough. The problem is that on the boob he doesn't seem to want to work for it so he feeds for a couple of minutes then squirms when the flow eases so he's not demanding as much. He's had breast and bottle from day one so it's a bit confusing. I did change to faster flow teats recently though.
Better go and make some dinner, thanks again for all the advice.

gilly - do you have to give him a bottle at night? Just a thought but could you not express and just give all BFs for a couple of days, I think you are right he is beginning to prefer the bottle as he doesn't have to work as hard, little monkeys aren't they?

My best friend was due 9 days ago and the poor thing is so sad, the consultant has told her the head is nowhere near engaged and that even induction in unfavourable and could be really hard, she wanted a waterbirth too I think she is getting a bit railroaded unto a CS.

Got Poppy weighed today - she is 14lb 1oz, so she's put on 12 oz in 3 weeks, but still only the 9th centile. HV still told me to start weaning her, I said yeah yeah, she's only 23 weeks. Didn't mention blw. Think I won't bother going now until she is properly eating - ie ages!

Feel a bit peed off today; never seem to get anything finished (or even started half the time) so house is usually bordering on cesspit.
I think it's pre Christmas blues; might get some decorations out at the weekend to cheer myself up.

Hi all,

Just wanted to add Isaac isn't rolling yet either, although he wasn't born until 29th July so is one of the youngest! I think he's 18 weeks next week bad mummy isn't sure. No idea what he weighs either as avoid baby clinic like the plague - growing out of 3-6 month clothes so I know he's doing well!

Glad Elodie is well TJuice - they bounce back so quickly from things.

Gilly - are you drinking enough? My supply really suffers if I don't drink loads, and I often forget! Just a thought.... Also, Isaac has 1 bottle of formula a day, has done since 4 weeks ish, and so far supply is great as long as I eat/drink enough. Doesn't work that way for everyone though, as someone else said.

Disney - your description of Sam LA LA'ing made me ROFL, Isaac does the same thing re laughing at me when I go to soothe him cause he's crying - little monkeys!

SK for your friend, I was in the same situation with dd and ended up with failed induction and em cs, don't tell your friend though, obviously! In hindsight I wish I'd waited longer than 10 days, but it's sooo hard when they put pressure on you.

Bebe - we're hoping for a door bouncer for xmas too!

isaidno - my HV actually advised me to wait until 6 months it's only another 3 weeks now, give her a sprout to suck on at Christmas

Actually I can't wait until Bethany is sitting up at the table with us, I always feel bad because what I do at dinnertime is sit her in her swing and put on baby TV and give her a rattle to chew poor wee neglected baby or I eat with her on my lap.

shortshafe - good to see you, yes I think my friend kind of knows she is probably heading for a section she's like me and has read up on inductions and medical intervention. I tried to be very positive for her today saying by this time next week she will be a Mummy and will have her little boy in her arms and it won't matter how he got here.

isaidno i havnt done my xmas shopping yet eit areher im doing it next weekend as thats when i have the decorators in doing my hall landing and stairs
yes getting the decorations out might spur you on to get some presents like put you in the festive mood so to speak

its the one things at christmas that kind of annoys me is the decorations and all the mess trouble is im a prefectionist and my home is like a showhome.i always set the breakfast table at night for the dc to get there own thing....my dining room is used at weekends now
i hate cleaning the bathrooms though especially the boys bathroom god its a mess im sure they cant aim straight
mine is the cleanest and the other shared ones including the visitors restroom arnt to bad
tip for keeping your kitchen tidy.....put a lock on it especially good for teenagers
after 9pm my kitchen is officially closed i clean it and lock it
i have a kitchen area in my room so i can get dc drinks and things and my cofee
i also lock the tv room at 11pm and they have to use the lounge then
hence my rooms are tidy
ive lost my keys ive searched everywhere and now cant lock up anywhere eg the main doors what a utter pain
im trying to ring my dh as he has the combination to the safe and im sure theres keys in there but hes unavailable typical

also any advise for the weekend
my FIL is visiting and we have booked tickets to cadbury world
now ive bought the tickets and as they are visiting us i pay for the meal etc...and she always tries to give me money like we are at the table in a restaurant and over her hand goes with £50 in i really dont want it
its our treat we dont have visitors and expect them to pay
but what can i say as shes very very insistent

disney - I still have a babygate across the kitchen door and it's staying there until they are about 5, I also have a little en-suite bathroom thats just mine and it has all grown up products in it and it's the only room the DDs aren't allowed in, it's my oasis of calm.

I should be in bed now but will do a quick post because for once I've got both hands free to type!

SK, Bethany sounds like Bryony at night - she goes down in her crib around 7, then wakes at 1 and 4 for feeds, which she has in bed with me. If I try to get her out of my bed in the night she just lies in her crib awake and cooing, then deteriorates into crying and won't go back to sleep without another feed. So I have ended up co-sleeping for at least half of every night and my neck aches now. If only I could summon the energy to have a proper go at resettling her in her crib in the night, but I can't think straight and just choose the path of least resistance.

We are getting into a bit of a routine during the day, usually feeds around 6 or 7, naps around 9-10 (on school run), then feeds, sleeps 12-1.30, then feeds, sleeps 3.15-4 (on school run) then feeds, bath at 6, then feed and bed around 7. The length of naps is quite variable, can be as short as 20 mins or as long as 2 hours, but I do at least feel there is at last some predictability to what she's doing.

Poledra, I would not recommend getting a dog now unless you are sure that your husband will do all the walking. I find our dog very hard work when dh goes away, especially if it's raining. Also, she steals food, which is a big problem when the dds have biscuits in their hands! And her dearest wish is to eat all the dirty nappies out of the nappy bin - have just had to install a stairgate to prevent her getting up to the bathroom! Why not get some goldfish instead - ours are no trouble and babies like to watch them

I am having real difficulty with using cotton nappies - Bryony now seems to get a rash as soon as she wears one. Also she poos several times a day and each change takes so long compared with using disposables, so I have decided to give up with washables. Feel a bit guilty but it's just one more thing making life harder at the moment.

TJuice, Disney and mama2leah, thinking of your poorly LOs and sending them lots of love. xxx

On the great weaning debate, Bryony is 18 weeks and doesn't seem ready for solids, though I let her have a suck on an apple I was eating the other day. She screwed her face up in disgust, so it's back to a milky diet for her! I'm quite looking forward to giving her little tastes of things though, it's great fun watching them making all sorts of funny faces as they get used to new tastes.

SK I can't BF at night as he isn't taking enough, it's a real vicious cycle. The best way I've found is to try and express at my usual 7, 11 and middle of the night and in addition at each feed during the day to try and empty the breasts as he just isn't doing that. I'm trying to get him to feed from both but it's not easy! He woke at just after 10.30 for a feed and nappy change, back off for around 11.30, then woke again at 2.30 and 5.30 last night, obviously in pain with teething but it's regular as clockwork, every 3 hours so maybe there's more to it than that. I'm KNACKERED, what happened to the good sleeper I once had?

Morning all,

Gilly, sorry to hear your still having problems, I'm not BF Sam so can't help I;m afraid. Just sending sleepy vibes..

Have posted some recent pics on Facebook of my boys, if you want to take a look!

Pigley Abigail is soo sweet, clever her being able to sit up!

As for rolling, SK Sam's like Bethany I think, won't stay on his back and moans when on his front as he can't get anywhere! He's started putting his knees under him now, but can't get his arms up, so I don't think it will be long before we have a crawler on our hands , obviously I'm trying to discourage him!!!!!

bebe hope your arm is feeling abit better and your cat's OK?

I always wonder how Twinkle is, I'm sure she must be busy though with 5!!! But I think the last we heard from her was that one of the twins was poorly and still in ICU, I wish she'd just let us know....

How time goes, Sam is 21 weeks today, doesn't seem like yesterday I was screaming away, infact is was about this time that she broke my waters!!!!!

Last night DH gave A his first full bottle of formula (I was abandoning DH and DS for a wild night in London). A drank 9oz of hungry baby formula at 6:30pm and then woke up at 1am HUNGRY! He's going to get a shock tonight when he is back on the breast for the 6:30pm feed!

Bebe - how's your arm doing?

DS - re: the money, personally I should just let her contribute, I know you don't want her to/it's not necessary but maybe she likes helping to pay for the gc?

What a night - 4 bfeeds, 3 dirty nappies, 2 nasal aspirations and a partridge in a pear tree. Who'd have a baby with a cold eh? I wish they'd work out a way to use snot for energy - I could power the whole house on what O and DD2 are producing between them. Soooo tired, hardly any sleep (getting up to change all those poo-ey nappies in a cold house is deeply unpleasant) then forgot that it was non-uniform day at DD1's school, so she's one of only 2 little girls in her class wearing her uniform today [bad mummy]. Gaah - must go clean the kitchen - hello to all

Arm still bad will be going back monday if theres no improvement over weekend when DH can do the heavy lifting (ie picking up the baby!!!)

Wanted to ask the opinion of you clever ladies but dont want to start arguments!! We are thinking of putting P in her cot in her own room, she is 16 weeks. She wriggles so much in her sleep that the moses basket wobbles! Every morning I get up and her head is all squished up against the top of the basket. She is a very good night time sleeper but I am concerned about putting her in her own room. We dont have space to put her cot in our bedroom, and no money for a crib, but I know it is recommended to keep babies in your room til they are 6months. Did suggest to DH that I sleep on blow up be on florr of nursery for a week or so and he laughed and said I was being ridiculous!! I do have friends who put babies in their own room from being very small. And I am aware of the reasons for keeping them close to you, but I am just worried that she is getting a bit big for moses basket. Any ideas? House is small and rooms are close together so I could hear her easily in her own room, just in 2 minds about what is best to do IYSWIM?!?! Any thoughts?!?

Meant to say am FF and she has her last feed at about 9 and sleeps til half 7 most days (if not later) and doesn't wake in the night for a feed.

Bebe, Both of mine went into a cot in their own room at about 13 weeks. I know that this wasn't/isn't guidelines, but, same as you, the boys had out grown the moses baskets and have no room in our bedroom for a cot. I think it's great if you can have them in the room with you for 6 months, but sometimes it's just not possible!

Bebe - A has been in a cot in his own room since he was 14 weeks (actually maybe earlier) we have room in our bedroom for the cot but A is the noisiest sleeper in the world so we shipped him off to his own room and put the monitor on the lowest setting (we still hear his crying of course!). It is against guidelines but we are non-smokers, he sleeps on his back etc. It's all about making informed decisions that are right for your family.

Bebe - A has been in a cot in his own room since he was 14 weeks (actually maybe earlier) we have room in our bedroom for the cot but A is the noisiest sleeper in the world so we shipped him off to his own room and put the monitor on the lowest setting (we still hear his crying of course!). It is against guidelines but we are non-smokers, he sleeps on his back etc. It's all about making informed decisions that are right for your family.

Bebe - A has been in a cot in his own room since he was 14 weeks (actually maybe earlier) we have room in our bedroom for the cot but A is the noisiest sleeper in the world so we shipped him off to his own room and put the monitor on the lowest setting (we still hear his crying of course!). It is against guidelines but we are non-smokers, he sleeps on his back etc. It's all about making informed decisions that are right for your family.

hmm not sure what happened there, sorry.