July 2008 - Rolling, rolling, rolling, our babies just keep on rolling!

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Pigley - cross posts - so thrilled you had a better night. My turn tonight! Unfortunately can't drop the dreamfeed as we don't do one and I already feed in a darkened room with minimal fuss so no more ideas really...

Pigley Glad you had a better night! Heres for plenty more!

EEC Glad you feel a little better, and maybe your PMT did make you feel alittle more hormonal than you normally are, but I would still go and see the doctor...

Disney Sam doesn't sit up unaided, and we haven't got a Bumbo, so when he goes in he highchair will be the first time I'll see the strength of his back. He is quite strong though, has been from birth (on his first hour, still in delivery suite, he lifted his neck and turned his head! ) I don't have to suport his back when I hold him IYKWIM.

mcchesers sorry to hear about your bad night. Sam woke with a scream at about 9ish (PIL were babysitting) I got back about 10 past and he was still being fitful (they had bought him downstairs), I gave him a small bit of Calpol and luckily he went back off then.

How do all your babies nap in the day? Sam just doesn't. Maybe if we go out or in the pushchair, but thats it. DH reckons we are lucky as he is still sleeping through, but I'd quite like a nap in the day too, is that being too greedy?

Morning all
Not a good night here, but then, they never are! O was up 4 times before waking at 6.15am and deciding that was it was the night! She only went down properly at 9.30, so by the time I had done some tidying up and so on, it was 10.30 before i went to bed. DD2 had a nightmare just before 6am and DH got up to her then he was wide awake. He spent the next 40 minutes trying to persuade me it was about time to resume marital relations, eventually succeeding just before the other 2 got up . It does make me feel a bit better about us, as it reminds me that we can get it back and it is worth working for. Makes a change from all te times recently when I've felt that I'd be better off on my own with the girls. However, to resurrect an old conversation, did anyone go with either the Mirena or the implant for contraception and, if yes, how are you getting on with it? And no, although I haven't sorted out a long-term contraceptive plan, we didn't take any risks

mcchesers, I thought we'd only have 2 children too - got the 3 under 5 thing going here now. I don't know how anyone copes with the very limited maternity leave in the US - a former colleague of mine went back to work when her baby was 8 weeks old . Oh, and I fed DD2 in her bouncy chair to start off with. I have a fabulous photo of her sitting in her bouncy chair wearing only a nappy (it was summer) covered in pureed green beans, with a huge smile on her face. She will not now knowingly touch any vegetable, mind you - strictly a protein and carbohydrate girl.

EEC I'm glad you're sounding better - here's hoping it was just PMT (well, not 'just' but I hope you know what I mean). How's your linea nigra lookin' these days? Mine is fading AT LAST, so I now longer look as if I have dubious personal hygiene issues round the belly button area. Still looks like someone crumpled up my skin and tried to smooth it out again but hey, I can't have everything I suppose.

Disney there is no way O will be getting into our highchair in the near future (it's a TrippTrapp) as she cannot sit up unsupported. We don't have a Bumbo so can't comment on that.

Better go, DD2 is being a monster, trying to stand up on the coffee table so I think she may be trying to get some attention.

Sorry for the typos - too tired to preview

Morning all mine was up 1.50am and 6am last night not too bad or it wouldn't been if DD1 wasn't up 3 times and DD2 once, eye bags or what today?

Disney - B cannot sit unaided yet either maybe for about 10 seconds before she flops, she detests being on her back now and will roll over in 10 secs, she's even trying to roll in her swing and crying when she can't.

Highchairs - I used to have a huge big one and hated it with a passion sorry, it had white straps and you can imagine what state they were in and they never seem clean it also had lots of nooks and crannies that food would get trapped in. My plan is to buy one of those Ikea ones £14 and use it until DD2 comes out her Fisher Price booster seat and then B will be about 9 months and able to sit in it, the Ikea ones are fab very basic but easy to clean. I love the booster seat too it attaches to the dining room chair and you can use it with or without the tray (the tray can go in the dishwasher).

I hate all the big bits of plastic that seem to come with a baby the booster seat is hidden in some ways.

Jodie - B has two naps in the day, one about 11.30 to maybe 2ish and one about 4 to 5, but this isn't set in stone if we go in the car chances are she will crash. You can see her getting cranky and I usually put her in the travel cot with a blanket and her teddy and she'll have a whinge but go to sleep in about 5 mins.

EEC - glad you are feeling a wee but better today, it seems they are all struggling with sleep maybe it is a developmental thing afterall.

pigley - glad you had a better night long may it continue, the thing is in a few months they will be on solids and that shoudl help a bit, although it didn't with DD2 but thats another story.

mcchesers - thank you for your kind words good on Aidan for rolling clever boy, it is downhill from now on for your house I'm afraid. I have friends who have nice things sitting out but put their babies in walkers or highchairs all the time, I prefer to take anything of value out the way and give them the floor to play on. I have carpets though and not hard floors and they get washed regularly so the babies just rumble about on them. My house is pretty minimalist (not through choice)

isaidno - thank too re rubbish Mummies, I know the craft stuff bores me too and you get all set up and they get bored after 10 mins and go do something else and your sitting there finishing off your Playdough house

Right best get off and get the bog two from nursery, hosue too quiet and tidy!

Poledra - linea nigra still v visible I'm afraid, although compared to the unironed tum and stretch marks it's barely an issue!
I am going to get the mirena coil - have got as far as having swabs taken (not fun, but nothing cmpared to prior indignities!) Will let you know how I get on with the fitting when I get round to making the appointment! No relations here as yet but I guess we really ought to have a go soon! Might make us both feel better

Afternoon all! Pigley, so glad you had a better night! Meant to say about the minimal moving etc. I only ever pick P up at night if she is screaming violently. If she gets whimpery or is just crying without waking (IYKWIM) I usually just rest my hand on the belly or hold her hand and leave it there until she settles. We have not fed her in the night since she was 4 weeks old and the first couple of weeks she would not sleep at night for more than an hour, then one night she just sort of clicked that it was bedtime!

I feel very lucky that she is so good most nights, but she is generally a nightmare in the day and AWFUL early evenings. She rarely naps, which is why she is so exhausted at night, and wants entertaing and picking up all the time, and I feel like a bad mummy when I just leave her to it, but DH won't let me have a sling, worried that I will fall and crush her or some nonsense like that. As a result house is a state and nothing ever seems to get done! Then he has the cheek to complain when I leave her with him when he's home! Grrr men, wants the house to be imacculate and dinner on the table every night and cakes and treats baked because I'm 'home all day'!!!!

P is getting so much better at holding herself up, and wehn I get paid I may be tempted to get a bumbo! Although not sure how much I would use it?! Plus after Xmas am hoping to start weaning etc so P would be in highchair, we haven't bought one yet but am planning on a wooden one that we can adjust as she grows and that will fit under table! Anyway must go and feed her am off to do Xmas shopping today, have got VIP discount for GAP and a load of Boots points so am aiming to get most of it done on the cheap!!!

arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

leah been up from 9 until 3 pm, normall she wud of had at least 2 naps in between...im exhuasted...

i feel like crying, i need a bat and dh is nowehre to be seen!

only for the me post

Hi all, wrote a mammoth post yesterday and then it disappeared so i sodded off to bed instead.

SK, did I read right, are you really thinking about another one?

EEC, sorry things are bad, hope you can get to see a doc. It really helps, honest (not something I've talked about here). Maybe you can look at something called 5-htp as a supplement to lift the moods - lots of stuff on the mental health board about it.

Disney, thinking of you.

m2l, it's exhausting when they do that isn't it? even a half hour sleep makes all the difference.

jodie, a nap in the day is not greedy. It's sensible (and necessary!)

Anyway ladies, please keep your fingers crossed that my booze order turns up tomorrow - only a small glass of sauv blanc left in this house.

ttfn

Donutmum - I think it's the hormones I'm sure they will settle down soon

M2L - have your bath put L in her cot and have a cot you will feel much better, I always feel lousy if I don't feel clean. Am with you on the lack of sleep although I think over the years I have learned to survive on less - ages you about 20 years though

ha ha donut about praying for booze order dh is out tonight and i am looking forward to making a big dent in a bottle of red, bf or no bf i neeeeeed wine maybe ds will sleep

EEC - sorry you are feeling so bad xx thinking of you
SK - I know how the LO's get you down sometimes, I have had real dip recently and have had PND meds changed and I have felt so out of control with everything....not keeping up with washing, cleaning etc...feel guilty for not going to park...for not wanting to get out messy paints....for not going to watch ds2 play rugby in the rain....you name it I feel guilty about it

Abbir had last jags on Thursday and was a little grizzly for an hour or 2 but went to bed at 7pm and woke smiling at 7am ...gorgeous and wonderful little girl.
DS4 on the other hand ....well....have been so upset about his behaviour and development lately....hard to talk about...

Anyway...Saturday....I'm away to do some washing,cleaning........

argh, she finnaly k.o at 3 pm and the woke up at 5pm, and then played, and jsut scream screamed scremed, until she fell asleep screaming on my laptop at around 9:30pm!!!! im exhuasted, she woke up at 7am today tho...

i cried with her, felt so helpless her jsu screamin and cryin...

2nd night without dreamfeed.
Not too bad.
Woke at 12.30 fed then straight back to sleep then again at 4 and took maybe 15/20 to go back off.- Better than two hours anyway!

Abigail had begun to findher voice but yesterday she def found it and claimed it! All day she just did not stop chatting! Its very funny!

We have really noticed her personality coming out the past week. Oh my what a cheeky little monkey!

Sainsburys shopping was particuarly funny last night. I had her in the carrier facing outwards and was packing the shopping away into the bags. Abigail decided to help and was holding onto the plastic bag. She then decided she quite liked the look of the bag of prawn crackers I had put in the bag and grabbed hold of it and took it out the bag and wouldnt let go. It was very funny and all the queue were laughing-Little monkey.

M2L- Sorry you had a bad day

Minipink- Dont feel guilty...you cant do EVERYTHING!

glad to hear you've had 2 better nights. I've never done a dreamfeed, because I think it can "train" that baby to wake up after x hours, instead of letting him wake up naturally.

M2L - hope you have a better day today; sounds like over tiredness took over for you and Leah yesterday.

DSs have persuaded me to take them to the softplay place so we are waiting for Poppy to wake up from her nap. So, it's an hour sitting in a draughty room half reading an out of date magazine while entertaining a wriggly baby for me. What fun.

SK - I have developed a pile - must be in sympathy for yours!

(sing to the tune of the farmer wants a wife)

Logan slept all night, logan slept all night, tra la la la la la la, Logan slept all night...

My booze has arrived, my booze has arrived, tra la la la la la, my booze has arrived...

What more can you ask for/ A sleeping baby and wine mmmm

Made the decision to stop the BF today, she was down to only once a day, and I really dont think it was worth while at all as she was doing it less and less over the last few days. Think I was clinging on to it more for me than for her, feels like a complete wrench stopping, but it just never really worked out and I am gutted. Think she just took too long initially to get it sussed and I never ended up having enough for her, so by the time she really got the hang of it she was losing weight! Feel rubbish about it but I know at least she is getting enough food with the formula and I made it to 14 weeks giving her something, just going to miss the closeness I think. Fingers crossed the next LO will be better at it...and that I don't end up with bleeding nips!!

BEBEJONES - I stopped bf dd at about 12 weeks, very similar reasons to you - cried about it for a couple of days too. She's now 2 and is the brightest, healthiest, bounciest thing around, bless her. Isaac is still going strong with the bf, and although I did have the whole bleeding nipples thing, it seemed to pass quicker and we're both much happier bf than dd and I ever were. With dd I found it helped to replace the bf with something else, we used to bath together every other day ish, which we both loved - still do on occasion .

M2L - hoping you're having a better day today, definately sounds like overtiredness - I find it really hard to cope when both Isaac and I have a bad day!

ROFL at DONUTMUM - my Baileys came today!

MINIPINK - full sympathy on the washing/cleaning front, 'tis all my weekends consist of too. Abbie sounds like a total dream though!

DD has horrible cough/cold/wheezy chest etc. Am keeping a close eye on Isaac, few sniffles and coughs so far but nothing to worry me yet!

Afternoon all Buggysnuggle came today and I am impressed it is lovely, very cosy. So we put the P&T into 2 toddler mode and off we went to Glasgow. B seemed to be in information overload her wee eyes were everywhere looking at everything must make a change from looking at the top of a pram I suppose. I think she was tired but there was too much going on for her to sleep.

bebejones - please don't beat yourself up about the BFing you done great and I think you will still have that closeness you are her Mummy afterall, I still feel very close to my older two and I don't BF them.

Donutmum - happy days

isaidno - I don't really like soft plays either, my pile has retreated from where it came from again but I would have never have thought one little pile would be so painful

pigley - glad you had a decent night, B is a very vocal baby as well she shouts at you too.

M2L - I do the try to figure out why they are screaming so first thing is food so stick on boob or give bottle, then change nappy, if they are still grizzly must be sleep, B will get really cranky but thats her cue thats she tired so I usually pop her on the boob and put her down or put her straight down. Of course illness and teething can put this to pot. If she's really bad can you take her for a walk or drive?

Not a great day here - Poppy fine, but the washing machine is on the blink, which is bad news for a family of 5 with one in real nappies, and now the boiler is not working, so no hot water or heating - brrr. Got plumber friend coming tomorrow before we all get too stinky.
Softplay wasn't too bad; read a sunday supplement from a newspaper dated 28th October and the ds didn't whinge for sweets / slush puppies / etc etc.

isaidno - about your washing machine and heating nightmare, have you got a parents house you can camp out in tomorrow, keep warm and get dinner made for you

Awful quiet here tonight where is everyone?

im here SK i think weve been abandoned

Howdy..still up over here..

hello you two I really should be in bed but am still traumatised about a bit of my tooth falling out tonight.