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July 2008 - Rolling, rolling, rolling, our babies just keep on rolling!

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sweetkitty · 04/11/2008 11:16

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NotanOtterOHappyDay · 15/11/2008 22:40

sk i really really feel for you - i am the same
pg and childbirth wrecks teeth i am sure
i find it so depressing too....i am going friday to have one looked at if thats any consolation

sweetkitty · 15/11/2008 22:44

it's so I took liquid calcium for most of last pregnancy too I have more fillings than teeth now

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NotanOtterOHappyDay · 15/11/2008 22:47

they literally do crack and crumble
mine look ok from front all white and even - but the back molars nearly all crowned

JODIEhadababy · 15/11/2008 23:23

Oh SK My teeth are shot to bits too, the back ones are going to have to be removed I think.

And I feel your pain Isaidno Hope your stuff gets fixed tomorrow.

Good night all am off to bed to finish the BLW book so I can lend it to MIL tomorrow (she's still on at me to give him Baby Rice NOW!) Sweet dreams all..

mcchesers · 16/11/2008 08:03

My teeth are gonna fall out? What? no one told me that. Poor SK..this is no good.

Isaidno - about everything happening at once. I do hope you get it sorted quickly.

Listen girls thanks for putting up with my moaning. I don't have anyone here to talk to IRL about this and it's pretty f'd up. Everything has taken a turn for the worse with the MIL. Ever since DH phoned his mum to confront her she went off crying, won't eat, and won't talk to him or his dad. Apparently the FIL knew nothing about what happened. He had contractors over with the house and was just told by MIL that "to take her over at once". So she lied to my DH about FIL being able to help out, and never mentioned to him that he had to stay. WTF? DH never asked her to come over at all, but said she could stay only if FIL was present. Anyway, so now the FIL is clued up and he understands what happened but it's all gone pear shaped. All my DH wanted was his dad to come over so I could get an hour's sleep?! We will never make that mistake again. She is immobile and on 5 types of pain medication including morphine. It was never an option for her to babysit and it sadly it never can be for my mom either.

My mom told me to send some flowers yesterday and DH left the ball in her court to phone him when she felt like talking.
So she can either agree to our terms (that have never changed since day 1) that she can't be left alone with the baby, or miss out altogether on him through no reason but her own stubborness. We're not even angry anymore..just very uncomfortable and want all this over with.

Families, eh?

Anyone doing anything nice today?

JODIEhadababy · 16/11/2008 08:35

Oh mcchesers for you, families eh! At least you've spoken about it and know what happened now, it's up to her. As for teeth, my dentist told me that when you have a baby they suck all the calcium from you for them selves (obviously) for your first baby there is generally enough 'reserves' in your bones (hence why they go a bit soft) and in what you eat, when you come to have subsequent babies (esp. if you have them close together) these 'reserves' have already been used and haven't had time to refill, so baby starts taking it from your teeth! nice! So if you do get preggers soon (ish) be careful to drink milk and take suppliments!

I'm off to PIL for a nice Sunday Lunch, MIL does the best sunday roast! And BIL and his Girlfriend will be there too, so I'm looking forward to that!

disneystar · 16/11/2008 09:23

morning guys
awww jodie wish someone would cook me a sunday lunch just for a change
its to do it and all my dc descend on us so its 9 every weekend for dinner
today we are buying a tv for my dining toom lcd flat one to go on the wall think i have an obsession with tv,s
also making a list of all the jobs and decorating that needs doing
my house was a new build and its just over a year old so we can decorate now as its past defect period
all the walls were cream (stillare) but now have tiny handprints to join it as the stupid paint was matt
need to get some one on to do the hall as its way to big and i dont want dh messing it up
he means well and is lovely but he tends to "this will do for now il finish it later "
but never does .......bless him
im a perfectionist my home is like a showhome he hates things all tidy
off to clean the boys bathroom omg its the worst bathroom in the house
sam was watching me eating my porridge this morning and moaning so i gave him a lick he loved it and cried even more then
i had to eat in another room
have a good all

bebejones · 16/11/2008 09:55

Having a lazy sunday and it's bliss! P didn't wake up til 8! And had 5oz of her feed which is really good! So am dead chuffed bout that, feeling slightly less about the bf situation, but does make me want another one even more...stupid hormones!!!

P's cradle cap is getting really bad and docs and HV have nothing to suggest but olive oil. It isn't thick and scabby (sorry TMI) but more looks like her head is dry and scaly, but she scratches at it ALL the time and makes it red and bleeding where she gouges chunks off her head. We have been putting scratch mitts on her, but she is really getting very grabby and her coordination is getting so good I hate doing that as it stops her from holding stuff. Although saying that the little bugger has worked out how to pull the mitts off so she can scratch her head. Just completely at my wits end with it as it is distressing her and she gets so worked up scratching it. Should it be THAT itchy, my mum said I had quite bad cradle cap for months and never once scratched at it!?!

mcchesers · 16/11/2008 09:57

disney - "this will do for now il finish it later " drives me bananas.

Jodie - also covet your Sunday lunch..mmmm!

mama2leah · 16/11/2008 11:52

ahh another ba bedtime, she was cried and screamed, it snot feedin or nappy..i dunno why she si don this, normally so good!

ahhh 16weeks today yay!

sweetkitty · 16/11/2008 13:16

It's amazing how many people on here have said the same thing has happened to them re the falling out teeth, I was feeling really sorry for my poor knackered body last night {big feeling sorry for myself emoticon}

B didn't do too bad last night went down at 8ish, feed at 10.45pm then another at 6am before getting up at 8.30pm with me (DP got up with the big two) I was actually shocked when she woke me at 6am that she was still in the same position we had went to sleep in so she hadn't had a feed in the night.

M2L - I think they go through a wee mad growth spurt and as someone else said it's a big time for them developmentally too. B is very nosy and I think she actually doesn't like to go to sleep in case she misses anything she gets herself overtired and cranky. Are you still putting her in her own bed, if not I was going to suggest lying with her in a dark room feeding her until she latches off in a deep sleep then leaving her, would she do this? Trying to think of what else to suggest.

Jodie - mmm lunch sounds nice, I try to do a ncie roast on a Sunday but would be lovely to have it made for me instead.

bebejones - have you tried speaking to the HV/GP about the cradle cap, she shouldn't be scratching it until it bleeds and as you say she uses her hands a lot more now and scratch mitts are unfair. I used Dentinox Shampoo and it was quite good at clearing the cradle cap (stinks though)

disneystar - so know what you mean about the walls, when we moved in here the previous owners had never painted since the house was built that horrid matt magnolia paint everywhere, in not time there was little hand prints all over it. Even with kid proof paint I'm forever rubbing the walls down.

mcchesers - it sounds like you MIL has some serious issues, probably centred around the fact she is immobile and can't be the Gran she wants to be and also maybe the second child thing as you said. But remember it her problems not yours. I don't have any family help and you don't need it, it's nice if you get it but you can get on without it (makes you a bit bitter and twisted though or is that just me?)

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TJuice · 16/11/2008 13:23

bebe - poor little P. maybe you should get a second opinion 'cos i just asked my doc dh and he says it sounds more like atopic eczema rather then cradle cap. elodie had cradle cap for a while - i think olive oil is crap - if you wikipedia cradle cap, it says that it actually makes it proliferate. i just washed her head with water every day and its almost gone now. she has the same eczema on her cheeks and we use really mild hydracortisone and special ezcema moisturiser which stops her scratching and keeps her cheeks all nice.

From a swedish medical perspective, if it is baby excema, it would be treated differently - with mild antibiotics if its infected or some kind of mild liquid cortisone. Otherwise, they sometimes prescribe antihistamine to relieve the itchiness.

hope you are all having nice weekends.
we've not one much at all - had a nice cafe brunch yesterday and today we are going to a farewell thing for some aussie mates and then to another friend for dinner - not a roast but nice not to have to cook tonight.

TJuice · 16/11/2008 13:28

forgot to say - had terrible tooth probs just after elodie was born. still fighting off a root canal . . . .

isaidno · 16/11/2008 15:49

I've got a dental appt next week... hope my teeth aren't too bad.
bebejones - ds1 had eczema on his head (still has but that's another thread!) which he scratched alot - doc gave us some special shampoo.

Still no hot water or heating here. Kids all used the baby bath filled with water from the kettle last night. I have to wash my hair somehow - will have to pop round to a friends and take a towel!!

disneystar · 16/11/2008 18:19

bebe no it shouldnt be that itchy at all
my sons suffer from severe psoriasis (not all of them) again another thread
but
but antihistamines? stop the itchiness
ask your pharmacist for advise and to have a look
i have some special shampoo i get direct from the hospital for samuel he has the same thing
e-mail me at [email protected] and il send you some
poor little thing must be so frustrating for her and also for you to watch
hope everyone else is ok
isaidno poor you with no hot water how long are you going to be without it?

bebejones · 17/11/2008 08:45

Olive oil certainly seems to make it worse actually and makes her more scratchy and stinky! Tried the dentinox shampoo but I think the perfume in it irritates her skin and it just seems to dry it out even more. The doc and HV have only ever suggested Olive oil for cradle cap but am really starting to wonder if thats what it is at all. Got an appointment this week so hopefully will get it sussed. Scratch mitts are almost pointless now she has worked out how to get them off!

EEC · 17/11/2008 09:58

Morning all

SK sorry about your tooth. I need wisdom tooth removed but am putting it off as am a complete coward!

Mcchesers what a horrible situation - still you have done all you can and now just need to leave it up to her. It's great that your DH is totally supportive of you. Agree that you can get by without parental help. My parents and PILs are both great really, but are too far away to be any help so effectively we are without any assistance.

bebejones - sounds like eczma to me? R had cradle cap which wasn't itchy, and has now mostly gone, but now has itchy dry patches on his scalp which is a type of mild eczma. He too is scratching til it bleeds occasionally. Nothing helps much but aqueous cream seems to be keeping it just about under control.

Disney - what is the shampoo called?

isaidno - about your boiler ! Not what you need with small children is it?

sweetkitty · 17/11/2008 12:39

bebejones - as the others have said I think it's more than normal cradle cap, cradle cap just looks horrible but shouldn't hurt them

DD2's eczema has flared up again as well

Rough night here last night B was up 4 times from 10.30pm and DD1 kept getting up and messing about in the toilet

I went to bed early last night didn't feel well, felt dizzy like I was going to pass out from about dinnertime also felt sick and very weak. Was like a migraine without the horrendous headache although today I have a headache but am putting that down to being tired. If I'm tired or have been crying a lot I tend to get migraines and they can last for a few days even with painkillers.

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isaidno · 17/11/2008 12:50

The shampoo we had for scalp ezcema was capasal when ds1 was a baby, now we have polytar.

Boiler being fixed on Thursday. (At least it won't cost us anything as baxi have agreed to fix foc as it is only 14 mths old.)
It is 14 degrees c upstairs. Have bought a little electric heater to take the chill off. We have a gas fire in front room, so it's kettle washes til thursday, although we did all go to a friends for a shower last night.

Baking my Christmas cake this morning - smells yummy!

sweetkitty · 17/11/2008 12:54

isaidno - hope they fix your boiler soon

DD2 had Polytar too but it didn't shift her flaky scalp, I bought Nizoral from Boots £6 tiny bottle but very good. For her eczema I use aqueous cream every day all over and hyrdocortisone cream on the red bits. I've heard good things about Aveeno (spp) cream on here too must go look it up

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bebejones · 17/11/2008 13:27

Thanks everyone, will bring it up with HV this week and take her to docs, it just looks so red when she rubs at it just think it is making her very unsettled!

cass66 · 17/11/2008 13:45

Hi girls. I am despairing about my 4yr old daughter (H). her behaviour is AWFUL. I know it's due to the baby and starting school, but she is just horrible. rude and beligerent to me, refusing to go to the naughty step etc. laughing when I say 'do this or no cbeebies' etc, she just says 'I don't like cbeebies anyway' etc. calls me names, which I had been ignoring as one of those things, but I'm not sure that's the best thing to do now.

the worst is she has started hitting at school. and she did it once at a local soft play area a few weeks ago. I came down hard on her that time (took her straight home, no TV no sweets, no friends back for tea), and thought that was it, but I heard today that she hit a girl in her class because this girl said H's drawing was a scribble. I'll have a word at school, mostly because I wasn't told about this episode, I heard it 3rd hand.

It makes me feel so sad, angry, and responsible. As if it's my fault, that I've brought her up to think that you can hit someone if you don't like what they say/do. which isn't true, but that's what people will think. She'll also lose her friends if she continues to be unpleasant to them.

sorry, need to off load this. My husband just says its normal and a phase. I guess he's right but I still feel responsible. And I'm not sure what to do next. Cass.

sweetkitty · 17/11/2008 14:21

cass - I would say it's starting school thats done it, everyone I have spoke to always says how much their DD/DS changes once they start school. My DD1 is 4 and won't go to school until next August (Scotland) but I can see more and more her behaviour changing. I have had to tell both mine off for pulling each others hair this morning, now I don't pull their hair and they have never seen this behaviour but they are doing it to each other. I find DD1 a lot easier to deal with than the human tantrum that is nearly 3yo DD2. I think it must ve harder for your DD as well as she was used to being your one and only baby for so long. I would try if you cna to spend a bit of quality time just you and her to reassure her she's still your special girl.

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EEC · 17/11/2008 15:17

Cass - I second SK. My DD went through her only phase of having tantrums at 4 (rather than 2) and that was when she started school - lots of 'I hate you mummy' and refusing to put her tights on etc It didn't last long and she has been a good girl ever since - well apart from now, which is again school related I think. She is now in year 6 and thinks she's terribly grown up! Also getting less attention because of the baby. She is turning into a mini teenager. Good luck! It shows they have character at least!

sweetkitty · 17/11/2008 16:34

HV just phoned wanting to come and see me for a visit, she said she was going to weigh B I said she was "done" last week and talk to me about weaning. I said that B was my third baby and I was waiting until 6 months, she said "oh in these parts you usually find babies are already on solids at 4 months and parents lie to us" we suggest 6 months. She made an appointment to come ans see us next week then changed her mind saying well you have everything under control and went onto say something about a free Tommee Tippee cup strange woman.

Must go and feed B before dinnertime she is watching Dora with her sisters (bad bad mother)

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