APRIL 2008 - The One Where They Can Eat Food & Shoes & Toys ........

[FrankenSoph73]

Thought as the messages were coming in thick & fast I´d start new thread. Don´t know if it´ll work though. Fingers crossed.

see you soon. need to de-stress....

PFJ - I know I looked at your profile and first glance I thought Brian Blessed, hope I didnt offend u. DH saw the pic and roared with laughter when he saw what I wrote (I think weve been together so long our sense of humour has kind of splurged into one) Does anyone remember city hospital? he was on that once, on a v quiet cardiac ward with poorly patients, it didnt stay quiet too long, hehehe.

Just caught up on the last few days, sorry youve been having such a shit time Scorpio, sounds like steps r being taken to try and get through it and u seem to have had some great advice from the April ladies.

Oma, go to the Drs the only thing you stand to loose is half hour of your time. 7 months is a massive amount of time to be sleep deprived its bound to affect you in all ways.

We went down to Wales to visit DH's nan, o the joy, 5 of us, his nan and his mum all in a 2 up 2 down. To spice it up a bit more the kids were ill too, all 3 have spiking temperatures/coughy/coldy things. We should have been going on to Swansea to see friends for a further night but decided we were too knackered to do anything else other than drive home and sleep in our own bed.

I am not going to read the thread on ff cos I know I don't do it exactly by guidelines but I am very clean and don't let them hang around forever, and think you have to use a modicum of common sense about it. Especially when 6 months. When newborn I made each one up fresh as per guidelines and that was just silly.

I took DSD to buy her first bra today! She's getting all growed up [sniffs theatrically]. Was good bonding - she's very excited about her boobs, though bless her, she's a 28 AA so ain't much there yet. She's only 10 though, so is early.
Don't want Mol to grow up not ever. Want my little cuddly baby to stay that way.

Tried a new thing of 3 big feeds and 3 meals today and it worked! She has been really picky recently, but giving her bigger portions and spacing them out so really hungry meant she ate more. Don't know why didn't think of it before really. Duh!

Bloody hell PFJ was having a nose to see what your man looked like (pic is gone, spoilsport) and saw what you said about social services - that's crap. How awful. Really makes you think have to be so careful about not making judgments without checking all facts first.

Peachy, we are flying to Manchester so not anywhere near south wales. Hey ho.

Oh and scorpio - what VS said - she puts things much more succinctly and eloquently than I could, but completely agree with her.

Hope you have had a better day today hon x

Ellie what's your new feeding pattern then? I feel like I'm not quite getting it right with breastfeeding, meals and sleeps at the mo', could do with some inspiration on how else to do it.

We were talking about how to make up formula today..what do you do when you're out and about? I'm still breastfeeding but will definitely be moving to formula during the day at some stage and have no idea how to do it - have been using those expensive cartons as it's only now and then.

Bond is brilliant, whatever anyone says. It was great. I'm a big baby and ended up with mascara stripes down my cheeks. But then again, I also cried during Flintstones, The Movie when I was 18, so probably best not to go on my judgement.

Well everyone, I'll really miss you. To be honest, not quite sure how I'll cope without boring you all to tears every day. I bet I'll be back before you even miss me, but I'll think of you all. Take care and don't let the annoying boys upset you.

Scorpio, hope you have a lovely time with your friends and that (d)h sucked up big time and spoil you rotten.

Also, Peachy, hope all better there now.

Sorry to have missed you TSC, hope you have / had a great time. Hope you have fun with the joys of underwired bras hehehe. Hmm, however, after reading the bra discussion I tried catching up with posts really quickly (impatient and all), and saw PFJ mentioning she's missing "proper panties". Was terribly relieved it's not a special kind of underwear only produced in cornwall, but rather a pastry.

Denny, Ellie, Ladybee, glad to hear you're good too!

Have fun and speak soon.

xxx
S.

Where are the others btw? Surely not RL, surely not??? That's just wrong. Bye to you all. Better not come back to babies writing entrance exams and the lot, as I'm planning to do nothing but eat koeksisters all month. No proper parenting and such nonsense important things.

Bye Sal, make the most of all those babysitters, see u in a month

Ive just done tesco run, Friday night def the night to do shopping it was eerily quiet.

PFJ - just read Ellies post that youve taken picture off which means that you must have taken offence. I am v sorry if i upset you it really wasnt meant too. (I did just start typing more and realised I was just digging myself into a big hole so will stop at just appologising). I have haribos if you'd like some.

Thanks ladies for your comments on the FF thing. EllieG I am with you on the whole issue I think, in that, as long as you are clean and hygenic and don't leave them lying around too long etc etc.

I'm just relieved to see that I'm not the only one not following the very strict and impractical guidelines.

Hi denny . Got M&D for the weekend, talk next week .

It's not about cleanliness and hygiene. I can't be bothered to get into another row though.

Byeeeeee Sal - you're right Bond rocks. Took babybee to the mum & baby screening of Quantum of Solace and he liked it lots too.

ThePFJ I wanted to see the pic of your DP, but missed it , but I'm sure he's wonderful in his own way otherwise you wouldn't be curling up with him of an evening

I've asked DP to take care of B this weekend as I have stuff I really need to get done - will be interesting to see how this goes, just got to try to back off and concentrate on getting my chores done and let him do it in whatever way he chooses. right?

night all..

Am not getting into argument either, just saying making up each one as you go must be a faff, i don't FF Mimi so canot comment further.

I am . Some of DH's friends FB me last night saying what a knob he is, what a hottie i am and that i should lay down the law, LOL. Feeling better, as one of these friends, is particularly, ahem, pretty and we used to, ahem. Ages ago.

Had a very good night out last night, great film.

I was informed by the health visitor that the guides for making up ff (as in one at a time if possible and make all up with just off boiled water) were produced because of a rare bacteria in fmilk that could have caused an infection and death in two babies in Italy after hospital staff made them up milk with water that had not been at the proper 70 degrees or above. This was not hot enough to cause these bacteria to die. What they do not tell you is that these two babies were having fmilk made up with mineral water, so is not exactly as cut and dried as fmilk kills baby, they were made up with wrong water too.
You have to be careful with all milk not to leave hanging around, but as far as I can see, these were very isolated cases.
When I am out I take cooled boiled water in bottle with a little pot of ff in and add when needed. I heat up if can but sometimes don't. I know is in theory a risk of this bacteria, but is so rare, and I think the alternative (taking milk i have made up out with me in cool bag) is more likely to have harmful bacteria as milk not in fridge for any length of time is obviously breeding ground.
I have probably missed some vital research that says I am doing irreparable damage to DD by doing this, and am sure am very bad mummy, but have to be honest here, no point in saying otherwise, that is what I do. I am happy for other people not to, and to disagree with me will not take offence.

See you in a month sal - we'll miss you!

Oh - ladybee - wake up, 7 oz feed. Breakfast a bit later after nap. Lunch between 12 and 1, 7 oz bottle about 3, dinner about 5ish and 7oz bottle before bed.

She woke up loads last night - DH and me had arguement discussion this morning as he wants to leave her to cry it out and I don't. Luckily I put my finger in her mouth and there was another tooth! So issue is postponed as not fair to judge when teething.
She got 2 now!

I do exactly the same as you Ellie re FF. But as it seems I am doing it wrong, I want to know what the correct thing is to do. I understand now that you have to make up each one as you go along, but what about sterilising? Do you have to do that each time too?

Bye Sal - I will miss you!!! Have a great trip!

The absolutely safest thing would be to sterilize bottle and make up feed each time I suppose, but that seems to me to be a bit silly. And even the hv said that was a bit impractical to make up each bottle as needed, she said just not to make up loads and loads and keep hanging around for ages. Bit of common sense needed really sometimes.

Actually, sterelizing is not necessarily that needed now is it, come to think of it - there was a thread about it linking to some research about allergy etc - most important thing is to wash bottles in hot soapy water, rinse and air dry.

Apparently sterilising is not necessary.

But if you absolutely cannot make up formula feeds as you go (which I totally understand, I FF DD and it was different way back then

I hold my hands up and confess that I do the same as you Ellie too. Our routine is also the same although I am still BF in the morning. Cannot for the life of me get DD to take more than 3oz from the bottle at 3pm and at night time.

Went to HV for advice and weigh in as I was so worried about DD but she is still 75th percentile (was 92nd until about 6 weeks ago) and she said not to worry but give her cheese/milk puds/milk with cereals etc as much as poss. SHe also told me to start giving her snack in between meals which I am reticent to do as she doesn't complain of being hungry between meals...is anybody else doing this?

No, no snack here, Mimi has 3 good meals (milky pudding after her tea) but is still firmly a boobyhead and has no formula yet, going to try to wean her after Xmas i think....DH may kill me though, lol! I would say Mimi has about 4 - 5 BF a day too.

Also DH being good at mo - its Z bday on 21 Nov (day after mine!) and Zac is having a bowling party up there, Z's mum had asked kev if he wanted to go to the party etc (they are going halves on a bike and kev would like to see him for his bday etc)

He didnt tell her an answer until he asked me if he could go, as he would be spending the day up there. (I can't, and do not want to go). He said if i said No that would be fine.

He is going to go (of course) but will be in close contact - and will tell Ex to stop it if she goes on at him again like he has done before.

Next thing is, a big thai boxing night out on the piss. I may go for a little bit i think.

DonDons, going down a percentile isn't really a big deal, especially when they are being weaned and are more active. It's expected that they will tail off on the weight gain now.
They are being filled up more on less calories so have a lower intake anyway plus are doing much more so are burning it off quicker.
We don't do snacks no.
DS is on about 5/6 BFs a day, plus he has one or two before I go to bed and then sometimes wakes for one in the night (he didn't last night though).
He still isn't particularly interested in food so although we offer him lunch and dinner he eats very little of it.

Scorpio why does he have to go on the piss?

well i am not going to give snacks then unless she seems hungry - bad food associations IMO.

He doesn't have to at all. Think i worded it wrong - what i meant was is thats the next social occasion i feel trust will come into.

as its out for most of the night, in pubs etc