APRIL 2008 - The One Where They Can Eat Food & Shoes & Toys ........

[FrankenSoph73]

Thought as the messages were coming in thick & fast I´d start new thread. Don´t know if it´ll work though. Fingers crossed.

I worry about you lot!!! Max Branning, Gordon Brown??? Surely you're joking. Please tell me you're joking! (Then again, I also like geeky guys, muscles and "boyishness" doesn't really do it for me, so maybe my taste isn't exactly what's acceptable to general public )

Peachy, wise words there earlier.

And Scorpio, brilliant news that you're treating yourself with the spa and holiday, and that you're taking up studying again. I wish I wasn't so lazy, then I'd do further studies as well. Nothing like that "pass" feeling!

PFJ. Seriously impressed!

I am serious about Max Branning, yes, LOL. And Gordon's voice, not actal Gordon.

TSC, I'm sitting here giggling like a teenager and the thought of you clenching those muscles in the hope of, well, the hope. Hehehe.

Honestly, it'll be fine! You'll see after a while you'll forget completely about it and then you'll relax!

Oh yes, and re the manual. Sorry, no advice, as I wouldn't even have thought of doing half of what you've already done! They'll be fine, relax and have a cup of coffee. And no bad habits will be learnt in one week, I'm sure. (You've got one extremely lucky husband btw!)

mooncup - OK, first retrieval, success! Its a messy business though, will it get easier?

good idea about doc, scorpio. food now all boxed and labelled, mil's bed made, just got to clean and pack for girls and me. you must be doing similar things, sal. how's it going? aren't you going tomorrow?

TSC - control freaky? not at all, just ummmm thorough.
They'll be fine.

Max Branning..nope. Gordon Brown's voice, nope. Jarvis Cocker...oh yes.

I'm constantly shouting at the television when the storylines make actresses, who are invariably lovely and at least above averagely attractive, become irresistibly attracted to definitely less than average blokes. I just don't see why they can't have some slightly better looking actors - what are they all doing?

I get that being a SAHM is not all roses and chocolates - god this morning I was just about crying with boredom as I did yet another load of washing, put squash into the oven to roast, did the dishes and cut up some broccoli to steam in between getting getting B up dressed, BFed, changed etc. I haven't done anything for me so far this week, and I can feel the desperation starting to build. But I'm hoping that when the time comes I'll know what it is I need in terms of adult support and be able to arrange it.

Oof, sitting here I can feel the temperature plummeting...think it's going to be another cold night.

Oh OMa, was nice to see you pop up earlier this week - you are so right about the about the amount of cleaning solids brings with it...I'm so sick of wiping wiping wiping.

TSC I've been wondering but didn't want to straight out harass you into checking! Hehehe. Yes, it'll get easier and you'll care less. It's like the first time of everything, it's still new and a bit gross-ish, later you won't even notice you're doing it. Oh, and use of mooncup is supposed to lead to lighter periods over the months. I haven't really noticed yet, looks same-ish to me.

Uhm, yeah sure, I'm planning everything for dh... [lies through teeth] Nope, I'm sure he'll be fine. My preparation involved making sure mine and Roelof's clothes are clean, gifts bought for those back home, and passports safe. Will throw it all in a suitcase tomorrow. That's about it.

Oh, am flying out Saturday at 6pm. Dh took leave tomorrow, so Roelof going to nursery from 8 to 1, we'll do the packing from 8 to 10 max, will then go out for long brunch together, and then we'll spend some family time (or basically, dh playing with Roelof) until 6pm. Then babysitter comes over to put R to bed, while we go off to see Bond. Hehehe, it almost feels as if I've got a busy social life reading that back

Yes Oma, I meant to say hi too and then got a bit cross with Scorpio's dh and forgot to . Great to hear from you again.

We are going to the Cinema tomorrow too - to watch Saw V.

Oh that's nice! Thank you, ladies. Am feeling a bit weird mentally at the moment so kind of avoiding people (in RL too, not on other threads but I don't really 'know' anyone on the rest of MN so that's OK). Not sure what it is, sleep deprivation maybe. Just feel a bit low and shit and very paranoid. Not about DH, more that people don't like me and I'm a bad person, and also paranoid reflexively that if I talk about how I'm feeling to anyone I'll just be really boring and annoying and they'll like me less. Also feel very guilty for feeling bad as I don't really have anything to be depressed about. Maybe it's just the weather.

Hmm. Sorry! Very self-indulgent. Hope all are well. Scorpio, great about your treat. Have been thinking about you loads and am sure it's just a blip. For a start it's kind of reassuring that he was so not underhand about it. I don't know if that makes any sense!

Can't believe our babies are so big now. My kids are so utterly gorgeous, how can I feel crap about anything?

"Yes Oma, I meant to say hi too and then got a bit cross with Scorpio's dh and forgot to . Great to hear from you again."
me too

sal ,that does sound like a real life!
and ladybee, i agree about the SAHM thing. but when you go back to work too, you still have to do all the washing, cooking etc, but you have to work as well. It means less boredom, but also - in my case anyway - you just do more things less well

glad you picked something romantc and fun there scorpio!!!!

PMSL

'to definitely less than average blokes'

or as the young poeple say (or at least they did in 2001 which was the last time I hung out a young person not better described as child LOL)

'to mingers'

OMa - everything can be perfect - so what? You are allowed to feel down,of course we want to listen, and we certainly (or i don't) want you to avoid us!

Do you think a visit to the GP is nessecary? You did have a long birth, and have had a hard time due to E's sleeping, for months and months now, none of which are your fault at all.

Do you think you are just tired?

feeling crap has nothing to do with what you do or dont have; if you feel crap ypu do, end of. Dont feel worse about that!

H picked the film, i do want to see it though and canot be dealing with 'oh smooch me' shite

Sorry that my moaning has taken up the hthread, especially when you needed us OMa

oma, sorry to hear that you're down. If its any help, I like you - admittedly, I've never met you . but its not boring or annoying if you talk about being miserable, even in rl, that's what friends are for...and they won't mind. you're right though, it's probably chronic sleep deprivation. how is your sleep at the mo? I find that even if I have a good night, it only gets me through the day - a bad night and I am in pieces because my reserves seem to be so low... Can you get any nights off with help from parents/ in-laws?

Don't be silly, I'm just being pathetic! I think you've been absolutely amazing. Your DH is such a lucky man. about Saw, though - yuck!

Yes, I do think it's all down to not having had a night's sleep for 7 months. I have recently had two or three nights with two 3+ hour stretches so it is getting better. I think in a way that might be making me realise what I've been missing all this time (like I didn't know ) - you know what I mean, though, like getting ill on holiday. I also think I'm quite lonely and I miss all my friends, don't see many people in the day, DH rarely home before 9/10 and was on a stag this weekend just gone, can't ever go out in the evening as am too tired and also trapped in a cycle of feeling antisocial because I am antisocial (ad infinitum). All just silly little things. I'm noticing that it takes nothing to set me off into anger or tears, though - lost it at a woman who wouldn't give way in the car yesterday (after she had passed, luckily, but I hope DD2 is not yet at the stage where she'll store what she hears as my language was very child-unfriendly), and very nearly cried when got told off for being one minute late at nursery today.

Lord, it is a horrible storm here! Glad I'm not out with the buggy.

Thanks, girls, feel better already for offloading a bit.

OMa - it does sound like you are very tired a couple of 3 hour stretches is nothing, not enough for you( or indeed anyone!!). It sounds like you too are on your own alot - sometimes i have to kick myself up the arse to get out and force myself to a playgroup or something, even just a walk around the shops, because otherwise i wouldnt speak to another adult all day long. Does E have a bottle at all? Im guessing not? Just so you can get some night time sleep...I wish i was nearer.

We have all the other Saws so this is a natural progression then, lol. Not tht i feel like tarting myself up to go anywhere with him, actually.

X-posts, TSC, thank you .

Sleep is getting better. I think the solids might start helping soon. She basically only gets one feed between 7 and 7 if she makes it till 11 (last night was 9.20 and 3.30 but usually just around 12/1) but wakes up around three other times. Last night was great, though because I was up anyway watching Spooks at 9.20 and then only had to get up for 40 minutes at 3.30 but otherwise slept from 11 till 7. WOW!

What do you do when she wakes? is getting attention from you?

Tart yourself up for all the other fit young men at the cinema, then ! I so rarely wear makeup but should more often as it only takes a few seconds to make myself look vaguely human nice(r).

I am quite squeamish about horror movies. I think we might have seen the beginning of one of the Saws on TV the other night, got switched off pretty sharpish.

I predict I will come bouncing back after my holiday with a baby that sleeps through, a perfectly toned body (have asked DH if I can have some time out every day to read the paper then fake a sweat go running), and a finished novel. Aiming low, then .

Sal, when are you off? You must be so excited!

And scorpio, don't worry either. There's room for everyone to moan on this thread.

Oma - aside from the fact that we would love you to come back and moan all you want, I think we are all wondering if you think you might have PND? Is it worth seeing a doc?

Saw V - dd1 is called V (short for Evelyn), and loves the buses with the ads for that film on the side!

PS Scorpio every time I post it refreshes back to your comment about Max Branning!