May 07: The one where SOH gets her tweed clothes and LG&T doesn't get any...

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Blimey don't be wasting away to skin and bones. Aren't there shops in Norfolk? Pop out to a good value joint like Peacocks, primark or Tesco, Asda and try and grab one in that same/similarish style. You said yourself you liked how you looked in that. I'm sure you could go either just before or just after the hairdressers, NOW GO ON!

No need to buy anything new. Have you ever looked at the back of the mannequins in a shop window? They just use pins to pin dresses into shape. In a photo, you only need to look good from the front and maybe the side. Pin the dress artistcally and it will look fine.

I think O is having a growth spurt. He was down to feeding one side only each feed and sleeping 10 hours at night, but is back to having two sides now, had three night feeds on Tues night and one last night. Does that sound like a spurt?

Oh yes a spurt indeed.

SOH how are you? What are you asking for in the hairdresser? God i hate photos.

Have just baked a illion cupcakes for Children in Need tom. Blardy school and there £1 here and there for dressing up too. It costs a fortune when you have so many! >

I left the buggy in the rain this morning, i am going to have to carry B in the rain to school. Numpty.

Bugger that LG&T put a towel in the buggy and if he gets wet he gets wet. You should not be carrying a heavy toddler at this point. Says the pregnant one who carried A round tesco the other day while he had a tantrum.

Tired tired tired so tired. Really must go pack a bag for hospital. Had another humongous meltdown yesterday at DP I threatened to walk out and I was taking A with me no idea where I was going to go had about 50p in my purse. It obviously had nothing to do with me being up since 3am.

PJ NOOOOOOOOO you are not leaving.

LG&T--Make the kid walk.

SOH- Say you've become a nudist and do your picture in the buff. Problem solved. Oh but definitely wear a hat that would bring a little something special

PJ- Don't leave. Just take everything that anonymous people on the internet have to say with a grain of salt.

I put a towel in the buggy

I have to now pick up Hugs track down the twins enroute home and go to their parents evening hoping it is all done and dusted by 430 as i have to get dd from Drama have her back here and sandwiched before Brownies at 5. N is supposed to be home but i have heard nothing from him all day, he is in a training session.

Oh poo springs to mind. I have just just come over all queer and achy too. Please let me get through this evening with no baby...

Great news about the house getting done up G&T. That's fab news. Please don't have a baby today.

Growth spurt. Hopefully that's also the reason that I CANNOT. STOP. EATING. No amount of motivational talking to self can stop me from defrosting another cupcake. The house was almost purged of junk food so cupcakes frozen from months ago was about the best I could find. That was after the Nutella on toast. I'm going to undo all my hard work. My sunny boy is also unusually grumpy and clingy. Hopefully he'll be over it soon. Times like this always make me want to give up breastfeeding. I'm sure it sounds heartless, but neediness really annoys me. I truly am mean.

So tell me, Pink's norks. Did you just want them for yourself or you know, want them?

Scoot - how is your mum and how are you managing the childcare? I really think you need some time off...

LG&T, Hopefully it's just a virus. You don't want this baby to come yet. Of course you don't really want a virus either.

Labor v Virus, it's a toss up really.

It does sound like a growth spurt TYG, unless you think he is sickening for something and comfort feeding? Either way, if he's feeding more it stands to reason you are hungry! I'm sure the odd cupcake or two will help him in his night's sleep quest.

Mini g&t STAY PUT! Mummy has a house to redecorate first! Blimey (can that be this week's word?) that is a lively schedule. Can't some other poor bugger mother help with dd's pick ups? Is the house Navy owned then?

Jam, , not long to go. It sounds like dp needs to pull his finger out a bit more. Could you go on strike?

I'd quite like to see Pink's norks.

I'm practically tripping over them.

Remember Secret Santa! Email me on: stephensonkuk at yahoo dot co dot uk if you want to take part.

Could you photocopy them and then scan them onto the pc? That way we could all get a look in.

Did you try the controlled crying last night?

Er, yes. I tried. And failed. It's a fooking nightmare of my own making.

Poor L now thinks that if she cries long and hard enough I'll take her in with us.

But I'll sort it.

I'm not sure it's such a good look for the HR Manager to start photocopying her tits. I usually save that for the Christmas Do.

It'll work out in the end.

Ah The Christmas Do. It's a British Institution. I seem to recall the worst behaviour coming from you HR types, I suppose you can't sack yourselves.

Don't go Pink. Post your health anxieties on this thread and you know people will give you sensible responses and not make you feel even more scared than you do already. Or just phone NHS Direct and skip internet googling.

TYG, that's a big piece of news for your dad to tell you in the middle of a party you're hosting. Have you had any more chance to discuss/ask him about it?

Just a quick one to say i hope you all have a good weekend.

I have handed in my assignment fingers crossed i pass it.

SOH I hope your photos went ok, am sure you looked beautiful.

LG&T great news on the re-decoration front. I hope baby settles down.

TYG that sounds like a growth spurt to me

Off to do the final bits of packing before heading off in the morning. Just seen that the flight is 9hrs 45mins. Good job that Dh has sorted out the dvd player so that should keep J sorted, that and the 6books and 3 dvd's i bought today. Ella has calpol some books and her dolly. They both look quite pale and E has a slight temp but think its just down to teething so have stocked up on calpol for the journey.

Big hugs to you all, but no dount wil log on whilst away xx

Well done April. Have a fab holiday.

Dad thought I knew already (for various complicated reasons), so felt pretty bad that he'd sprung it on me. Have no desire to take it any further. He thinks my mum knows, but can't say for sure. I'm certainly not going to ask. I won't be contacting this person unless I need a kidney. I'm sure a lot of this stuff went on... It was the 70's after all.

It's surprising the skeletons that come out of the closet. We found out two stories, one very sad in dh's family involving half-siblings nobody knew about. DH's great-grandma had a little boy by an American serviceman in the 1940s. When her husband returned from serving in Africa (a nasty man by all accounts), he contrived a situation where she had to send away what was then a 2yr old little boy. She drove him to the children's home alone, cried all the way there and all the way home and has never cried since. She is nearly 90. They were reunited a few months ago. It's been very emotional. We've also just met twin sisters who are great-aunts of dh that we never knew about.

AM, have a lovely holiday.

LG&T, please don't pop just yet. Hang on till I'm there.

Jam, you too. No mini munch just yet.

tyg, typical growth spurt. DD still has them, the appetite is quite something when it happens. You'll burn it off feeding and doing your burpees.

I saw lilkel on a thread t'other day.

I totally missed that snippet TYG! Did it floor you?

Of course i wanted her norks have quite impressive ones of my own to sport atm

SOH what happened at the pic session? I bet Tilda did lovely smiles and performed What did you do with your hair/clothes? Some hefty skeletons in your family then it is amazing what people manage to conceal and live with

AM have a fabulous holiday well done on getting the assignment in.

Baby still in, dh met me at school so i just left hijm in the car with all the children and went in alone. The twins are ace, they have recently set up a puppet club and are in mucho favour with the teachers. Reading ages of the scale, just Jacobs terrible spelling and presentation to sort out. Sam is neat but does not proof read his work well. Am very pleased with them both I must read some trickier texts to them, no idea where to start though.

We picked up dd in the nick of time and a lovely lady down the road the road took her to Brownies. I had a glass of wine and Dominos. The boy was up for hours in the night, talking away to himself. I had barely any sleep, i was also having some major BH through it all, even when i managed to drift a bit. Hope this is not the start

MKG how are you feeling?

Must email you TMAM

Oh SOH, what a sad story. How went the pics?

LG&T - Well done to the twins! So lovely to get good news at school. Sorry you had no sleep. It's just awful being that tired when you're pregnant.

I couldn't sleep last night thinking about that poor Haringey baby and all the others like him. Not that me being upset about it will make any difference. Has anyone heard about a family-mentor system run by councils? I'm sure I heard something once, about how you can sort of foster a family, by helping out or giving young parents someone to talk to. I'm not really sure what the scheme is called.

Is that baby P? I heard Jeremey Vine on the radio the other day talking about it. They had a few experts on I was picking up dh from work in Portsmouth and sobbed all the way. I have not been brave enough to read any articles or MN threads on it.

I have not heard of that scheme but it does sound good. I worry that the people needing help like that would be offended taking it or i would get too emtionally involved. I have always thought i would foster but tbh i am not sure i am made of the right stuff.

Yes, baby P. I chickened out of reading any details, but then DH started telling me and now they're stuck in my head. Happened not far from where Victoria Climbié lived, so that's now two very public child protection failures on Haringey council's shoulders. It's something that has made me stop scoffing at "regular child weight checks" and the like. They're hoping to find neglected children, not have a go at me about centiles.

I don't have it in me to foster children. I would get too involved and I'd be horrified if a child was sent back to neglectful parents after spending time with me. I couldn't do it. This other scheme, as I remember, was to try to get families who are at risk of being put on the "at risk" register, iyswim, in touch with "normal" families so they can see how other families deal with day to day stuff like nutrition and safety and communication. It was aimed at young parents who have grown up in "at risk" families and have never had a chance to learn anything different.

Maybe it was just talk of there being a possibility of the scheme being set up. I can't find anything on the net as yet. I just wondered if I'd be a good candidate, having been a teenage parent myself and therefore an example of how things can turn out ok; that I wouldn't just be some interfering do-gooder.

I've read the local free rag coverage of the Baby P case weeks ago, all too close to home for me, and the other night I made the mistake of reading the Guardian's long article on it just before bedtime, not surprisingly dp was asking "what's up?" I've tried to refrain from reading the mn threads and when I've succumbed, have only done so sat on my hands.

TYG, I'd think you'd be good as some sort of family mentor if you can make the time. Perhaps you could ask your HV if there is such a scheme in operation in our area. I know one of the children's centres near me has a teenage mums' group and there might well be others.

I think it's close to home as our LOs are of a similar age. Awful stuff, and now a lady in Manchester has (allegedly) stabbed a 3yo and 3mo.

It's awful.

I would have switched the radio off but heard too much, it was heart breaking particularly as he was the same age as ours

The scheme sounds very good if they do run it, i think you would be an ideal candidate too.

That is why i couldnt foster, i mean imagine handing them back I applaud people who do it i really do.