October 08 - The Here and Now.

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The story so far....

10th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - loulou33 - Boy - Joe Louis David - 6lbs 12oz - Induction due to rhesus sensitivity, G&A.
12th Sept (Due 6th Oct) - iuseantiageingstuff - Boy - Fred William - 8lbs 13.5oz - Induction due to high BP.
14th Sept (Due 14th Oct) - twinklytoes - Boy - Samuel - 7lbs 4.5oz - Em C-Sec due to grade 4 PP.
16th Sept (Due 8th Oct) - Ksal - Girl - Emma Rae - 6lbs - Just beat induction for PE!
20th Sept (Due 8th Oct) - kookiegoddess - Girl - Reya Marie - - Induction due to OC, epidural, 3rd degree tear.
21st Sept (Due 5th Oct) - myjobismum - Girl - Naomi Caitlin - 5lbs 10oz - Fast and furious hospital birth.
22nd Sept (Due 10th Oct) - Lozza70 - Boy - Sander Gene - 7lbs 5oz - Em C-Sec due to raised BP and high ALTs from liver.
27th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - accessorizequeen - Boy twin - Felix - 6lbs 8oz -
27th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - accessorizequeen - Girl twin - Bridget - 7lbs 7oz -
1st Oct (Due 29th Sept) - WombFor1More - Boy - Harvey James - 8lbs 13oz - Homebirth, no pain relief.
2nd Oct (Due 4th Oct) - annwoo - Boy - TBA - 8lbs 7oz - Amazing birth!
2nd Oct (Due 30th Sept) - sambrads - Girl - Brooke - 7lbs 9.5oz -
2nd Oct (Due 12th Oct) - star6 - Boy - Quinlan - 5lbs 15oz - 36hr labour, ventouse and stitches.
2nd Oct (Due 8th Oct) - Alexa808 - Girl - Tienette - - Planned c-sec
3rd Oct (Due 5th Oct) - rosebury - Boy - Austin - 9lbs 2oz - Delivered at home by dh!
3rd Oct (Due 6th Oct) - Bethoo - Girl - Maia - 7lbs -
3rd Oct (Due 6th Oct) - hoff - Boy - Oliver - -
3rd Oct (Due 19th Oct) - MrsTittleMouse - Girl - - -
4th Oct (Due 2nd Oct) - 1sttimer80 - Boy - - -
4th Oct (Due 30th Sept) - Aubergenie - Boy - Stanley - 7lbs 12oz -
5th Oct (Due 29th Sept) - plusonemore - Boy - Alfie Thomas - 8lbs - Induction, epidural
5th Oct (Due 2nd Oct) - MrsBish - Girl - Rachel - 8lbs 8oz -
5th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - hedgepig - Boy - Oliver - 6lbs 3oz -
7th Oct (Due 23rd Oct) - Emmsy1 - Girl - Amy Louise - 5lbs 12oz -
7th Oct (Due 2nd Oct) - snowymum - Boy - Rowan Michael - - Home water birth
8th Oct (Due 6th Oct) - ronshar - Boy - William Dexter - 7lbs 11oz -
8th Oct (Due 20th Oct) - 07mumstheword - Girl - Freya Mae - 7lbs 12oz -
8th Oct (Due 16th Oct) - moodywren - Boy - Hayden - 6lbs 9.5oz - Homebirth
9th Oct (Due 27th Sept) - Pidge - Boy - Arthur - 8lbs 14oz - Homebirth
10th Oct (Due 1st Oct) - CantSleepWontSleep - Boy - Duncan Elliot - 8lbs 4oz - 4 day induction with 1 hour established labour!
11th Oct (Due 3rd Oct) - usuallytooshytochat - Girl - Megan Leah - 8lbs 2oz - Homebirth with ambulance crew!
12th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - pistachio - Boy - Thomas Fraser - 10lbs 2oz - Homebirth.

God I can't even contemplate having sex again yet!!!!!!!

Does anyone else who had stitches (or otherwise) have a real problem going near the "area"?? I just can't stand the thought of it!!

God we haven't and I'm gutted cos I only had a laceration that didn't need stitches, but it still stings so much when I wee I'm a bit scared of sex yet - we've sexy time (foreplay) which was lovely, I want to be intimate with DH again!!

ok, so Ethan was showing signs of tiredness, yawning and getting grizzly so I calmed him and put him in his moses basket, lights are low and no music or anything on - he's been sat in there gurgling away to himself for half an hour!!! I feel really guilty that I'm not interatcting with him or playing with him - should I get him up? He's due a feed soon anyway (last fed 3 hours ago) but that means I'll have to put his bath back a bit (we try to do it at 7pm), argh I don't know what to do...bloody DH is going to be late again...

I finally got round to doing my labour story, do not read it if you're about to eat or want to have more children!!!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/birth_announcements/656824-DO-NOT-READ-THIS-IF-YOU-39-RE-LOOKING-FOR?rnd=122789 7202982

I feel better for doing that!!

Hell, Girl, if it was me and I was lucky enough to have Poppy stay for that long I'd leave her!!!

Hello everyone. (Usually here)
Have been just too busy - I promise to read back over the last 34 pages asap to catch up with you all...
As you can see from my new name, I am totally sick of pink. And its only been 7 weeks. But why, oh why don't loving family and friends realise that girls can wear other colours? And why is it so hard to find girly clothes in other colours?
Sorry to be so frivolous and possibly really ungrateful sounding!

anythingbutpink I am so with you on the pink thing! After 2 Ds's I thought it would be fun (and I still think there's potential!) but I'm actually having to do a "pink" wash . I found a sweet dungaree set in Woolies which was mint green top and denim dungarees with a tiny pink motif that I was pleased with - but when I put her in it the boys asked why she was in blue! Ingrained steroetypes alive and well in the pepper household...
Hope everyone is well and getting over their colds - we've all had it here, DH and I are on our second colds as well. Doctor took some bloods in case I was "run down" I think his children are long grown up and he's forgotten the sleep deprivation.
honeymoonmummy just read your birth thread, you poor thing, it does help to talk about it, especially with the first I think, I could still relive DS1's birth hour by hour if I think about it, and that's 4 years on.
Have a good evening all.

Evening all, I'm going to go on the mini pill for a year and then we will decide if we want one more or not next christmas. It will be the first time we have needed contraception in 5 years due to being told i was infertile after dd2 was born...now we have dd3 and dd4 to disprove that! We definately dont want any more "suprise" babies as dd3 was only 4 months when we found out about dd4!
DD4 is back to only feeding one side each feed and her poo is back to orange so im relieved, she still has a horrible snuffly cold though,so have been putting a bowl of steaming water and eucylptus (sp) in the bedroom before bedtime.
Had a couple of hours out today whilst i had a haircut, obviously i had to take dd4 but mum held her whilst i had my cut and then she had hers done after.
My bil & sil are coming to see the outlaws tommorow so we will go over and see them before dp goes beach casting with my dad, i shall stay at my parents with mum,it's far too cold to stand on a beach!
Sorry this has turned into such an epic post!

Thanks Pepper, I'm afraid I have never been brave enough to read anyone elses labour story so don't really know how bad it is but it felt pretty bad at the time!!!

I know what you mean about the pink thing - but the novelty's still not worn off with me... I just hope she likes pink cos we have gifts from grandparents up to the age of 2!!!!!

4andnotout - I am only just keeping my head above water with 2 - htf do you manage with 4?

mumismyjob - I'm sure your milk is lovely - it is the best thing for your baby. What did HV think about your dd's weight?

MOL visiting next weekend for first time (she had a long holiday booked for just after dd was born!) Looking forward to some of her excellent cooking! (As opposed to my 'if it can't be made in under 5 minutes, I don't have time' cooking)

ha! and I can barely do 1!
DH is very very poorly today. yuck. he's spreading his germs everywhere!! If he gives them to Q I will be very angry as I'm returning to work on Thurs. I've quarantined him to the bedroom for now... gave him his laptop for entertainment and bring him food and water regularly.

sounds like you have 2 at the moment

more like 1 and a pet

going to try and put mine down now. sleeps angelically in arms... wakes up 5 mins after being laid down!

ohhh we went through that. csws does that 24/7 I think! How are you, csws?

put her on her tummy... it works

OK.... Q not sleeping all that well at night, BUT fell asleep this morning 10am-11.30, fed 11.30-12, and fell asleep feeding... has been sleeping now since 12. I'm wondering if I should wake him up so he sleeps tonight? would you?

If he's ill I'd leave him star, but if well then I'd be tempted to wake him. We have the same problem at the moment, in that ds is spending the nights screaming, but then sleeping lots in the day. If we wake him in the daytime then he cries, so we're leaving him and putting up with it for a few days. We're not sure whether his misery is caused by his cold and cough (which has got worse), or by the lactose which is in the steroids that I'm now taking to try and help me breathe. So the cough now keeps me awake less at night, but ds keeps me up instead! Managed nearly 4 hours each night for the last 2 nights, so an improvement on the rest of the week, but not by much!

We have the best form of contraception - a ds that you can't put down!

myjob - I expect that your milk is just fine. Some babies just do gain slowly. If you want to get more in to her though, then have you thought about expressing and using the expressed milk to top her up after a feed?

Lozza - karvol is fine. I think they even make a karvol 'plug in' for children these days. I have been using olbas oil with ds.

for going back to work so soon star.

Had to at your question re weaning age star. It should be 26 weeks, but it is one of the most hotly contentious discussion topics on MN. In actual fact you never need to give them baby rice. Just wait til 6 months then give them some of your own proper food. A cooked carrot stick or a floret of broccoli makes an excellent first food to gum at.

I was thinking about that csws... baby rice hasnt always been around... so what did babies do before it?
off to look up the weaning discussions...
well, I left ds to sleep and he woke at 3.30, ,napped again for 45 min and is now drifting off after feed....poor little guy...
poor me - we'll be up at 3am for the day tomorrow!!

myjob is your hv happy about Naomi? Honestly her weight gain sounds just like my dd's & she was exclusively bf from 1-6mths (mixed fed in 1st mth & she only gained 6oz....). If I'm right, Naomi has put on 3lb in 10 weeks? DD had gone from 6lb 14oz to 9lb 7oz by 10wks, so about the same. She may just be going to be a petite little lady. I'm now finding it odd to have a ds who seems HUGE (to me anyway... At 10lb he now weighs what dd did at 3mths )

CSWS I take my hat off to you - don't know how you are coping with being ill & the sleep deprivation.... I really hope things get easier for you soon.

Star you have to go back to work soon. I'm glad its the holidays soon. I would second csws on the weaning - the first food dd tried was garlic bread she swiped off my plate aged 5 1/2 months when I wasn't looking . Wouldn't be my idea of a first weaning food, but she survived (tho the resulting garlic smelling nappy wasn't much fun)

All seems ok here, Matthew has just started getting grumpy in the evenings & wanting to feed from about 5pm onwards.... But we're surviving so far!

Morning all, Tilly-Grace wont be 6 weeks old until next thursday and is ex bf yet my period seems to have started Have the period pain and back ache to go with it too I thought it would have stayed away whie she was bfing so much

4ano mine came back at 12 weeks after DD was born even though i ex bf for 5 months. pants or what?!

we had a great night here. alex went down at 9pm, woke at 1:30am fed for 10 minutes, went down and woke at 4:50am and then slept till 8am!! i am very pleased.
just been and picked the new paint for the kitchen after the milton incident, so that's my job for the next week.

hi all
Had lovely day yesterday, went to Oxford and met my sis and her new partner, got the train with my mum and dd1 and dd2, train was a complete nightmare and glad I was not alone as everyone got on before we got off and I had to try and get the pushchair from under the baggage rail where someone had plonked their massive heavy suitcase in front of and all these people getting on the train and we could not get off so they nearly went without us getting off and the guard was stroppy as said we should have been waiting ready to get off, my mum explained that the amount of people getting on and not letting us walk up the train was not helping and no one moved out the way, poor dd1 and dd2 as dd1 was leading with all these people pushing on and dd2 was stuck in mums arms whilst she was squeezing past people and then I was stuck in the baggage bay!!! also the announcement only came as we were just getting in to the station not as we were leaving the last one or just before we arrived to Oxford so we had not much time to get our stuff together! I will def drive next time! I am soooo glad I never went alone, I was not able to get dd2 out the pushchair alone as had to fold it down as soon as on train as does not fit down aisle and would have struggled wtih bags, coats 2 children and a pushchair! Sorry needed that rant

Anyway, off swimming in a mo with friends (well I am not, I will sit on the side watching) Dh will go in with dd1 and me and dd2 will observe

Had ok night, Dd2 fed at 8:30 with top up feed 930 ish and then slept til 3 but was awake for an hour grunting and then we all slept in til 845, dd1 had woken in night from bad dream at 215 so I was actaully awake from her waking until dd2 went back to sleep at 4 ish but other than that it was pretty good, well the lie in was fab , so sad that anything after 730 is a lie in when we used to sleep til 11 on a weekend prior to kids , next time that happens will be when they are older and out on the town and sleeping in with hangovers!!!

hi all - we're having issues with sleep in that Ethan can't seem to settle himself at all and we have evenings where he's awake for hours and hours, eithe crying, feeding or being rocked and soothed - always rocked or fed to sleep. Thankfully once he's asleep he does pretty well, goes straight down after night feeds and normaly only wakes around 2/3 then again at 6/7...though he clearly knew it was the weekend as both nights he went down around midnight, went through til 6 then through 10am! so at least we all got a lie in...

and we did the deed today for the first time...was a bit apprehensive cos it still stings when i wee due to small laceration (can't believe it hasn't healed yet!) but it was fine, a bit tight and slightly uncomfortable but good, can't wait for it to be great again!!